Poll of the Day > Anyone who watches Twitch ever... do yourself a favor and read this.

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http://btb2.free.fr/ls.html

This is a rough draft of a tutorial to set up Livestreamer, which if you haven't heard of it is definitely something you need in your life if you *ever* watch Twitch for any reason.
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Sell me on why I need this without resorting to invectives or excessive hyperbole for comedic effect.

Because what I'm reading on that page is a ton of effort for no discernible payoff.


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Two angry old men walk into a topic
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yeah thats too much work for something i dont even want in the first place
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I don't watch twitch. I MIGHT try and broadcast in the future though.

St_Kevin posted...

Two angry old men walk into a topic

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Sell me on why I need this without resorting to invectives or excessive hyperbole for comedic effect.

Because what I'm reading on that page is a ton of effort for no discernible payoff.

People tend to do this because they think watching streams installs a bunch of crap on your computer. And they would be right...if it was 2008. Nowadays the only thing you need to install is Java, which most people have on their computer anyways.

Plus I wouldn't use VLC anyways, it seems to be a giant memory hog. I don't know what they have done to it but I honestly prefer the video player that comes with Windows 10. Never had a single problem with it and it seems to play just about anything I throw at it.
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No, I don't need it at all.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Sell me on why I need this without resorting to invectives or excessive hyperbole for comedic effect.

Short answer:

• Watch Twitch without needing your browser
• Stream comes through in much higher quality
• No advertisements

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Because what I'm reading on that page is a ton of effort for no discernible payoff.<

The entire process from start to finish should take you about two minutes, tops.
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There's ads on twitch? I hadn't noticed 'cuz who doesn't block?
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BTB posted...

Watch Twitch without needing your browser

How's that a benefit? People don't use Netscape or whatever, browsers are good nowadays.

BTB posted...

Stream comes through in much higher quality

Considering Twitch's compression, that may not be too good anyway.

BTB posted...

No advertisements

Hehehe, ads.

But what about the chat, or PMs, or quickly going to another strean, or watch a VoD?
This isn't helpful in any way.

shadowsword87 posted...

But what about the chat, or PMs, or quickly going to another strean, or watch a VoD?
This isn't helpful in any way.

Chat can open up in a popout window; the script I provide does that for you.

Going to another stream is just a simple matter of opening another instance of Livestreamer - it's a lot faster than navigating Twitch's site.

The difference in stream quality is *very* noticeable, even attempting to use the "best" setting in the browser.

Watching VODs is the only real place where Livestreamer falls short.
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BTB posted...

Watching VODs is the only real place where Livestreamer falls short.

But that's the only valuable part of twitch. Unless you actually want to ask the streamer something semi-important (unlikely for me but you might be into that), it's not worth giving up the pause/rewind buttons just so you can have a box on the right of the screen full of shitty emoticons and LUL spam.
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'eh, GDQ puts its VODs up on Youtube, so I can just watch them there.
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BTB posted...

'eh, GDQ puts its VODs up on Youtube, so I can just watch them there.

I feel like any streamer worth watching puts their VODs up on Youtube.
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BTB posted...

Short answer:

• Watch Twitch without needing your browser
• Stream comes through in much higher quality
• No advertisements

But that's why I said it doesn't seem all that necessary. I almost never see ads when I watch stuff on Twitch (maybe one every few hours or so at worst), the quality isn't terrible in any significant way, and not needing your browser doesn't really seem to have a tangible benefit if you're just using a different external program anyway.

It seems like a lot of solutions to problems that aren't actually problems in the first place, and which requires a bit of jiggery-pokery to do in the first place.


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this is a lot of effort for no discernible payoff.

it's a lot like btbs script for "emulating" a tv channel on your computer, when you can simply just play all and then press shuffle.
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Seems interesting to me but I'm gonna keep using the browser. Good work! I hope people who'll appreciate and wanted something like this see it
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

It seems like a lot of solutions to problems that aren't actually problems in the first place, and which requires a bit of jiggery-pokery to do in the first place.

They're problems if you're obsessive like I am. Methinks we should trade names >.>

I also seriously cannot overstate how easy and simple this is. You would need to be an unfathomable degree of lazy to consider it a lot of work.
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BTB posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It seems like a lot of solutions to problems that aren't actually problems in the first place, and which requires a bit of jiggery-pokery to do in the first place.

They're problems if you're obsessive like I am. Methinks we should trade names >.>

I also seriously cannot overstate how easy and simple this is. You would need to be an unfathomable degree of lazy to consider it a lot of work.

thats the thing though... if no one other than you cares to "fix" these "problems" in the first place, than any amount of work is too much
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Greenfox111 posted...

thats the thing though... if no one other than you cares to "fix" these "problems" in the first place, than any amount of work is too much

The existence of this program is a pretty clear indication that someone other than me is irritated by the need to chain your browser to a video feed.
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Usually when Twitch embeds ads directly into their streams I just stop watching. I remember there was a week where they did that, viewership for one of the streamers I watched went down to 1/3 the usual.
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Ah, yeah, I did some site restructuring the other day and ended up moving a lot of files around.

http://btb2.free.fr/misc/livestreamer.html
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you probably have your browser open anyways, why is it all of a sudden terrible to have it in your browser
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helly posted...

you probably have your browser open anyways, why is it all of a sudden terrible to have it in your browser

Because running it through a dedicated media player is significantly less resource-intensive and results in better quality, like I keep saying.
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