Board 8 > Anything sillier than this Shader boycott outrage?

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Corrik
09/09/17 4:53:00 PM
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Over Destiny 2. Lmfao
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red13n
09/09/17 4:54:06 PM
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Yes.
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Bane_Of_Despair
09/09/17 4:56:26 PM
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Writing a letter to taco bell about their $5 box coming out to $6
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Shaduln
09/09/17 5:00:52 PM
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Many things.
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Nanis23
09/09/17 5:02:56 PM
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Corrik
09/09/17 5:04:14 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Writing a letter to taco bell about their $5 box coming out to $6

It is $5 now at that location.
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Corrik
09/09/17 5:05:02 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/09/malaysia-blocks-entire-steam-store-because-of-god-fighting-game
This

That is a good one.
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banananor
09/09/17 6:27:49 PM
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Corrik posted...
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Writing a letter to taco bell about their $5 box coming out to $6

It is $5 now at that location.

hmm, does this mean complaining about shaders might get the shaders changed?
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Corrik
09/09/17 6:30:16 PM
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banananor posted...
Corrik posted...
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Writing a letter to taco bell about their $5 box coming out to $6

It is $5 now at that location.

hmm, does this mean complaining about shaders might get the shaders changed?

I have zero doubt that change will come despite how silly it is.
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Anagram
09/09/17 6:37:00 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/09/malaysia-blocks-entire-steam-store-because-of-god-fighting-game
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Corrik
09/09/17 6:39:41 PM
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I don't get why people would want to boycott a game they obviously like over having to play the game more to get the shaders they need to literally shade their armor lol.
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tennisboy213
09/09/17 6:41:17 PM
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wtf is a shader
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Corrik
09/09/17 6:41:25 PM
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Especially when the main complaint about it is that there isn't enough to do when max level. Lol
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Corrik
09/09/17 6:43:19 PM
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tennisboy213 posted...
wtf is a shader

Something you pick up that can shade your piece of armor color.

They made them 1 use and people are complaining they are not infinite use (though I have heard they drop a decent amount when max level).

They are complaining to get enough shaders to make all their armor match is ridiculous and the game should be boycotted over it.

Destiny's producer says it is how they intended it.
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Xiahou Shake
09/09/17 6:45:06 PM
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I think it's a pretty legit complaint personally. It'd be one thing if it was just a design decision, but when you couple it with the microtransactions it comes across as extremely greedy/sleazy.
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Corrik
09/09/17 6:51:38 PM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
I think it's a pretty legit complaint personally. It'd be one thing if it was just a design decision, but when you couple it with the microtransactions it comes across as extremely greedy/sleazy.

Do you think people are complaining cuz shaders dont really drop below max level and so think they are super rare?
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Lightning Strikes
09/10/17 10:11:41 AM
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One use shaders is a lame design decision honestly, and the microtransactions make it worse. The upset is justified. Destiny at it again.
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Corrik
09/10/17 10:12:40 AM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
One use shaders is a lame design decision honestly, and the microtransactions make it worse. The upset is justified. Destiny at it again.

Don't other mmos use the same systems basically and not have this backlash?
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Drakeryn
09/10/17 10:21:16 AM
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when I played TERA, the armor dyes were one-use, and they changed it so that the ones you could buy with gold were limited duration (so your armor would go back to its old color after a week). permanent dyes were only available in the cash shop.

granted that was F2P instead of a $60 game
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LapisLazuli
09/10/17 10:30:59 AM
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It's about balance. The current shader system is balanced in a way that would be appropriate for a free to play game. Destiny 2 is a $60 game, and the system is not appropriate for that. I'd argue with complete confidence that there's would be LESS backlash if you COULDN'T buy blind boxes.
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Corrik
09/10/17 10:32:29 AM
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I just think the arguments are a tad hypocritical.

1. Not enough things to do at the end of the game.

2. I don't want to have to play the game more to get more shaders.

Like, it almost seems like the two arguments contradict themselves.
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LapisLazuli
09/10/17 10:35:52 AM
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Getting more Shaders isn't actually more content though. It means you're doing the same content over and over. That's the same problem Destiny 1 had.
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Corrik
09/10/17 10:40:19 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Getting more Shaders isn't actually more content though. It means you're doing the same content over and over. That's the same problem Destiny 1 had.

Most mmos is doing the same content over and over and being driven to by systems.

Wow rng drops.
From mount drops on old raid or dungeon bosses to different pieces of armor in current raids. Transmogs in different areas. Rep. Etc.

Almost all mmos use getting you to repeat the same content to keep you busy at end game tactic.
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tazzyboyishere
09/10/17 10:49:18 AM
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It plays into a system that targets people with gambling addictions, so it's pretty bad.
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Corrik
09/10/17 10:56:33 AM
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tazzyboyishere posted...
It plays into a system that targets people with gambling addictions, so it's pretty bad.

Most mmos and mobile games do
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CelesMyUserName
09/10/17 10:58:03 AM
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Corrik posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
It plays into a system that targets people with gambling addictions, so it's pretty bad.

Most mmos and mobile games do

Destiny isn't FTP.
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tazzyboyishere
09/10/17 11:01:56 AM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
Destiny isn't FTP.

You also generally know what you're getting with your money, so it isn't gambling. Destiny's loot boxes, or whatever they're calling them, is random.
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Corrik
09/10/17 11:05:28 AM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
It plays into a system that targets people with gambling addictions, so it's pretty bad.

Most mmos and mobile games do

Destiny isn't FTP.

Neither are some mmos and some have subscriptions as well.
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Corrik
09/10/17 11:06:07 AM
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tazzyboyishere posted...
CelesMyUserName posted...
Destiny isn't FTP.

You also generally know what you're getting with your money, so it isn't gambling. Destiny's loot boxes, or whatever they're calling them, is random.

That is kind of fucked up actually. I am referring to shaders.
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profDEADPOOL
09/10/17 11:14:39 AM
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Corrik posted...
tazzyboyishere posted...
CelesMyUserName posted...
Destiny isn't FTP.

You also generally know what you're getting with your money, so it isn't gambling. Destiny's loot boxes, or whatever they're calling them, is random.

That is kind of fucked up actually. I am referring to shaders.

Yes and people think the reason that the shaders are one use is to try and sell the lootboxes since those tend to contain shaders. The issue is not that shaders are one use.

The issue is shaders being one use but guys you can pay for RNG lootboxes which might have the shaders you want.
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Corrik
09/10/17 11:17:15 AM
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Well, just go play the game and get them. That's not much different than a FTP game where you can buy something you can earn in game.

I agree the random boxes is lame unless it is severely discounted from what a straight purchase would be. Clash Royale and other games use that method of selling. But, again, those aren't necessarily a $60 game either.
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DeepsPraw
09/10/17 12:43:39 PM
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It's different from the first game. That alone is enough to make people upset
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Waluigi1
09/10/17 1:38:38 PM
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You need to stop comparing it to other games. Just because other games do shitty practices, doesn't make it ok in this one.
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Lightning Strikes
09/10/17 3:33:17 PM
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Honestly Destiny now strikes me as a free to play game that accidentally got a ton of money spent on it.
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