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Capn Circus
09/14/17 10:41:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm6S4jBTbRA


https://www.pscp.tv/w/1kvKpjRdDRZJE?q=berkeley
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littlebro07
09/14/17 10:42:41 PM
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This topic will surely go well and be filled with mature, stimulating, and civil conversation.
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lilORANG
09/14/17 10:43:05 PM
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dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 10:43:10 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
"Wah who in their right mind would watch this!!!!"


yeah because people usually tune into... Berkeley speeches...
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Caution999
09/14/17 10:43:14 PM
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Facts are racist though
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littlebro07
09/14/17 10:43:56 PM
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lilORANG posted...
dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol


lolwut
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Caution999
09/14/17 10:43:57 PM
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GET REKT HILLARY

holy crap
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 10:44:37 PM
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lilORANG posted...
dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol

it's almost as if he's a moron
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lilORANG
09/14/17 10:45:42 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
lilORANG posted...
dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol


lolwut

"The three rules for living in America
1) graduate HS
2) get married before having babies
3) get a job

Do these things and you won't be poor"

pretty close to a direct quote.
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Bishop9800
09/14/17 10:46:14 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
"Wah who in their right mind would watch this!!!!"



well, look at who made this topic
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littlebro07
09/14/17 10:47:38 PM
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lilORANG posted...
littlebro07 posted...
lilORANG posted...
dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol


lolwut

"The three rules for living in America
1) graduate HS
2) get married before having babies
3) get a job

Do these things and you won't be poor"

pretty close to a direct quote.


Is he trying to portray an idiot
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 10:48:39 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Is he trying to portray an idiot


he's pandering to his followers. so yes
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Caution999
09/14/17 10:49:54 PM
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10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/14/17 10:52:43 PM
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Everyone is an individual. That's the real truth.
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Bloodychess
09/14/17 10:52:56 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
This topic will surely go well and be filled with mature, stimulating, and civil conversation.

littlebro07 posted...
Is he trying to portray an idiot



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Capn Circus
09/14/17 10:55:45 PM
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Question and Answer time now. A true forum of open discussion and freedom of speech.

It's a real shame some people on this board support and sympathize with violence to get these events shut down.
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ZMythos
09/14/17 10:55:46 PM
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Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

The other 62,990,000 are just extreme white supremacist enablers
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 10:57:09 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
he is one of the smartest active political commentators.


...no
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hockeybub89
09/14/17 11:00:11 PM
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Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

There aren't many extreme Islamists in America either, yet we are supposed to be afraid of them. Why can't we take both seriously? You don't need a lot of support to do a lot of damage.
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Caution999
09/14/17 11:01:22 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

There aren't many extreme Islamists in America either, yet we are supposed to be afraid of them.


I think the people that are afraid of the extreme - radical Islamic terrorists are afraid of them getting into the country.
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lilORANG
09/14/17 11:02:09 PM
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Caution999
09/14/17 11:02:09 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

The other 62,990,000 are just extreme white supremacist enablers


Imagine believing that 62.9 million people are supremacist enablers. Man, that is reallllly pessimistic.
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BootyGif
09/14/17 11:02:53 PM
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the echo in that feed is intolerable
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/14/17 11:03:12 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

The other 62,990,000 are just extreme white supremacist enablers


And what is the other 64,000,0000? Islamic terrorist supporters and enablers? You see how stupid identity politics is? Or maybe you aren't enlightened enough to see it and that's your problem.
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Zeeak4444
09/14/17 11:04:23 PM
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lilORANG posted...
That poetry line was pretty good.


Yeah, I've never heard him speak and know very little about him aside from a few topics on CE but that whole lead into it was great too.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on pretty much anything you wanna say about the guy?

I'm all ears, thanks in advance.
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hockeybub89
09/14/17 11:04:35 PM
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Caution999 posted...
ZMythos posted...
Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

The other 62,990,000 are just extreme white supremacist enablers


Imagine believing that 62.9 million people are supremacist enablers. Man, that is reallllly pessimistic.

Why? I heard liberals enable Antifa and ISIS. Why can't conservstives do the same for other groups?
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TommyG663513
09/14/17 11:04:54 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Question and Answer time now. A true forum of open discussion and freedom of speech.

It's a real shame some people on this board support and sympathize with violence to get these events shut down.


Free speech does not entitle you to speak to an auditorium of people. That is something we would call a privilege.
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Zeeak4444
09/14/17 11:08:38 PM
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"If you're a smart person starting from the wrong principals you can reason yourself into anything"

Not gonna lie that's pretty accurate AF.

Some of the shit he says is dumb as all hell while others are ridiculously true like this one.
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Caution999
09/14/17 11:09:02 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Caution999 posted...
ZMythos posted...
Caution999 posted...
10,000 extreme white supremacists and not 63,000,000


TRUTH BOMB.

The other 62,990,000 are just extreme white supremacist enablers


Imagine believing that 62.9 million people are supremacist enablers. Man, that is reallllly pessimistic.

Why? I heard liberals enable Antifa and ISIS. Why can't conservstives do the same for other groups?


It's fair to say that some Liberals do enable those groups - albeit I believe they do it subconsciously. And some conservatives do the same with the white supremacists. Some people do not have good control of their emotions and make bad decisions based off of them - but they feel like they're the right move.
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lilORANG
09/14/17 11:09:53 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
lilORANG posted...
That poetry line was pretty good.


Yeah, I've never heard him speak and know very little about him aside from a few topics on CE but that whole lead into it was great too.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on pretty much anything you wanna say about the guy?

I'm all ears, thanks in advance.

he's like the only person on the right who isn't a blabbering idiot and makes good points here and there but tends to only "debate" people at these college functions, which means he gets to run circles around dumb college kids and people hold him out as some genius for it.
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sabin017
09/14/17 11:10:36 PM
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Oh man he shut down that guy on abortion.
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 11:10:39 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean they're automatically unintelligent, he's a very smart man who thinks incredibly fast on his feet. If you have an example of him acting like a total idiot (and not just an emotional disagreement via political, ideological or religious difference) by all means share.


being a good speaker or debater does not make you smart
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lilORANG
09/14/17 11:11:24 PM
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sabin017 posted...
Oh man he shut down that guy on abortion.

Yeah, that dumb college kid walked into that >_>
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Solid Snake07
09/14/17 11:11:50 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
lilORANG posted...
dude just said if you get a job you won't be poor lol

it's almost as if he's a moron



He's not a moron. Smarmy know it all with a punchable face? sure. But he's not an idiot
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Mr_MacPhisto
09/14/17 11:12:44 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean they're automatically unintelligent, he's a very smart man who thinks incredibly fast on his feet. If you have an example of him acting like a total idiot (and not just an emotional disagreement via political, ideological or religious difference) by all means share.


being a good speaker or debater does not make you smart

We sure found that out these past 8 years.
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BootyGif
09/14/17 11:16:12 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Lol as if his voice wasn't horrid enough already.

he does have a really annoying voice.
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Solid Snake07
09/14/17 11:16:23 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean they're automatically unintelligent, he's a very smart man who thinks incredibly fast on his feet. If you have an example of him acting like a total idiot (and not just an emotional disagreement via political, ideological or religious difference) by all means share.


being a good speaker or debater does not make you smart



Yeah...... it kind of does. What have you ever heard him say that is so stupid?
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ZMythos
09/14/17 11:16:48 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Imagine believing that 62.9 million people are supremacist enablers. Man, that is reallllly pessimistic.

I know the finer points of language are lost on you people, especially since your president speaks in fragments, but it's not any stretch of the imagination to realize that the "both sides" rhetoric he spews in regards to the events in Charlottesville is only meant to placate the right while also hand waving the actions of the white supremacists that he knows are a significant portion of this voting base.

It's enabling behavior, and if you support him for doing that, you're an enabler by proxy.
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Zeeak4444
09/14/17 11:17:08 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
lilORANG posted...
That poetry line was pretty good.


Yeah, I've never heard him speak and know very little about him aside from a few topics on CE but that whole lead into it was great too.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on pretty much anything you wanna say about the guy?

I'm all ears, thanks in advance.

he's like the only person on the right who isn't a blabbering idiot and makes good points here and there but tends to only "debate" people at these college functions, which means he gets to run circles around dumb college kids and people hold him out as some genius for it.


Yeah, that's what I got a feeling it would be like. I knew he spoke at a lot of colleges but never saw him on anything major.

I gotta agree though, while he seems to fall into his own statement I quoted earlier at times, he's far better than pretty much anyone on the right I've heard so far. Better than most of the guests they get on CNN too. I'd be interested to see him go on a few of those.

You think he ever will?
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AlternativeFAQS
09/14/17 11:17:15 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Yeah...... it kind of does. What have you ever heard him say that is so stupid?


...that part about if you graduate high school you won't be poor. if he believes that, he's a moron
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Capn Circus
09/14/17 11:18:13 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Question and Answer time now. A true forum of open discussion and freedom of speech.

It's a real shame some people on this board support and sympathize with violence to get these events shut down.


Free speech does not entitle you to speak to an auditorium of people. That is something we would call a privilege.


No, this certainly falls under freedom of speech. Berkeley is a public university that receives public funds, and has student organizations that invite speakers such as Shapiro to come and speak. They have speakers from the left speak all of the time (shocking: there aren't violent conservatives stopping them from speaking)

When Antifa and other leftists produce violence and obstruct people from entering venues and create an unsafe environment, it is obstructing freedom of speech.
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ZMythos
09/14/17 11:21:24 PM
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Capn Circus posted...

When Antifa and other leftists produce violence and obstruct people from entering venues and create an unsafe environment, it is obstructing freedom of speech.

Here's the thing, freedom of speech is only applicable to government actions.

If the university itself, or the state, or the federal government, actively silenced Shapiro, then that's violating free speech.

Being told to shut the fuck up and leave is not violating free speech, it's people expressing dissent for an idea or individual, which they also have the right to do.
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/14/17 11:21:44 PM
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This is what the loony leftists were trying to shut down: A civilized discussion.
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lilORANG
09/14/17 11:22:39 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
You think he ever will?

idk, I think he's done shows here and there. He went on the Joe Rogan podcast, which was reasonably interesting because it was more like a coversation, but Joe still doesn't really push him on anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQTfyjhvfH8

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Bloodychess
09/14/17 11:23:09 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Being told to shut the fuck up and leave is not violating free speech, it's people expressing dissent for an idea or individual, which they also have the right to do.



They don't have a right to pull fire alarms and block entrances.
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ZMythos
09/14/17 11:26:25 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
ZMythos posted...
Being told to shut the fuck up and leave is not violating free speech, it's people expressing dissent for an idea or individual, which they also have the right to do.



They don't have a right to pull fire alarms and block entrances.

Okay, but that's not violating free speech. It's violating university And building rules and conduct
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