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Ammonitida 10/10/17 3:26:30 PM #1: |
http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/publisher-withdraws-essay-defending-colonialism-citing-threat-to-journal-editor/120511
The essay, The Case for Colonialism, was withdrawn at the request of the journals editor, Shahid Qadir, and in agreement with the essays author, Bruce Gilley, an associate professor of political science at Portland State University, the notice said. https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/The-Case-for-Colonialism-Third-World-Quarterly-Bruce-Gilley.pdf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 10/10/17 3:30:17 PM #2: |
Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible.
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Zeeak4444 10/10/17 3:34:24 PM #3: |
Paper_Okami posted...
Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. This. I wouldn't advocate for pulling it but I'm not shedding any tears. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 10/10/17 3:38:12 PM #4: |
Regardless of the content, I don't think that pulling the article was the right move. It sends the message that these types of violent threats will not only be tolerated, but they get results.
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Ammonitida 10/10/17 3:46:02 PM #5: |
eston posted...
Regardless of the content, I don't think that pulling the article was the right move. It sends the message that these types of violent threats will not only be tolerated, but they get results. If the arguments made in the essay were bad, then the critics could have just written rebuttals instead of throwing a tantrum. Backlash against Third World Quarterly was swift after it published the colonialism essay last month. Fifteen people on the journals 34-member board resigned, and a petition seeking a retraction drew more than 10,000 signatures. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LolTownz 10/10/17 3:47:36 PM #6: |
Paper_Okami posted...
Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. Zeeak4444 posted... Paper_Okami posted...Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. You two clowns are part of the problem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 10/10/17 3:53:20 PM #7: |
@LolTownz posted...
Paper_Okami posted...Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. Enlighten us how Colonialism is a good thing. We'll wait. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bandit_Keith 10/10/17 3:54:35 PM #8: |
Ammonitida posted...
serious and credible threats of personal violence These people need to be tracked down and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Disagree, write letters to the editor voicing your complaints, boycott if you want, blog and make your own PSAs, for all I care. But when you threaten violence, even if you have no intention of following through and you deserve whatever punishment the law allows. And the publication shouldn't have given in to threats of violence. No excuse for that kind of behavior. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LolTownz 10/10/17 3:54:51 PM #9: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
@LolTownz posted...Paper_Okami posted...Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. idgaf if it is good or bad. What I care is that someone was threatened out of publishing their findings, rather than debated on the merit of evidence and logic. Your nonchalant attitude about death threats stifling academic discourse is dangerous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcolm_McGuffi 10/10/17 3:56:07 PM #10: |
Paper_Okami posted...
Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/10/17 3:58:00 PM #11: |
LolTownz posted...
idgaf if it is good or bad. What I care is that someone was threatened out of publishing their findings, rather than debated on the merit of evidence and logic. Your nonchalant attitude about death threats stifling academic discourse is dangerous. "colonialism is good" should not be academic discourse --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 10/10/17 3:59:04 PM #12: |
LolTownz posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...@LolTownz posted...Paper_Okami posted...Imagine being dumb enough to think Colonialism was defensible. Oh, I see, you think I should have shed tears over it. Cool story, bro. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LolTownz 10/10/17 4:01:04 PM #13: |
averagejoel posted...
LolTownz posted...idgaf if it is good or bad. What I care is that someone was threatened out of publishing their findings, rather than debated on the merit of evidence and logic. Your nonchalant attitude about death threats stifling academic discourse is dangerous. "should not" is not an argument or a substitute for evidence and reason. if someone claims to present evidence that colonialism was not all bad, then the correct response is to dispute their evidence and their reasoning. not to attempt to murder them or issue murder threats. very basic concept for anyone living in a civilized part of the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/10/17 4:01:48 PM #14: |
I haven't read his essay, but if the contents within did go through the peer review process and have valid arguments in defense of colonialism, then it should stand on it's own merit.
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DifferentialEquation 10/10/17 4:02:01 PM #15: |
averagejoel posted...
LolTownz posted...idgaf if it is good or bad. What I care is that someone was threatened out of publishing their findings, rather than debated on the merit of evidence and logic. Your nonchalant attitude about death threats stifling academic discourse is dangerous. If the article met the standards of the journal, then is not one of the points of academia to encounter controversial viewpoints? --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LolTownz 10/10/17 4:02:57 PM #16: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
averagejoel posted...LolTownz posted...idgaf if it is good or bad. What I care is that someone was threatened out of publishing their findings, rather than debated on the merit of evidence and logic. Your nonchalant attitude about death threats stifling academic discourse is dangerous. yes it is, and to debate things on the merits of evidence and peer review ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 10/10/17 4:06:44 PM #17: |
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good.
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LolTownz 10/10/17 4:09:07 PM #18: |
Paper_Okami posted...
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. then go ahead and easily refute that person's evidence and arguments. death threats are not the way. imagine if creationists suddenly gave death threats to evolutionary biologists to the point where those articles were withdrawn. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 10/10/17 4:09:42 PM #19: |
It's amazing how a essay can trigger people to the point of death threats. It's quite obvious from the shit posts in this thread that this is not a minority opinion I guess. Ah well. Better to stifle discourse for someone's feelings, than that person having to actual engage in debate and prove their so easily proven point to the opposition.
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Esrac 10/10/17 4:11:50 PM #20: |
Paper_Okami posted...
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. What does the paper that was retracted say? Also, depends. Good for who? It was often good for the colonizing nations, typically at the expense of the native populations. But thems the breaks, I guess. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/10/17 4:14:15 PM #21: |
LolTownz posted...
Paper_Okami posted...There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LolTownz 10/10/17 4:59:20 PM #22: |
what are you trying to say with that meme
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gmanthebest 10/10/17 9:19:15 PM #23: |
Paper_Okami posted...
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. That's not what this argument is about. The argument is about whether it's appropriate or not to send death threats to someone over the paper. Hint: the answer is that it's not appropriate. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/10/17 9:24:28 PM #24: |
Paper_Okami posted...
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. And we'll never know for sure cause the article was pulled. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 10/10/17 9:26:16 PM #25: |
LolTownz posted...
what are you trying to say with that meme wint's message is spot on. wish he would say it to others in public and get reactions with it. --- His hair cracks me up, It's like if vaudeville and feudal Japan did the fusion dance on his head - Yaridovich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 10/10/17 9:27:29 PM #26: |
gmanthebest posted...
Paper_Okami posted...There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. I don't think that they'll get the picture. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: Adzeta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 10/11/17 12:00:13 AM #27: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
gmanthebest posted...Yeah the types in this thread advocating violence cause someone has a different opinion rarely see the obvious even if everyone else can.Paper_Okami posted...There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 10/11/17 1:09:09 AM #28: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
gmanthebest posted...Paper_Okami posted...There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. Oh I totally get that the threats of violence are not right. You have to be insanely dumb to defend something like Colonalism though, which has killed, and displaced countless people, and destroy the resources of many an area. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 10/11/17 1:25:20 AM #29: |
Paper_Okami posted...
There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. The United States exists as a result of Colonialism /Topic --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 10/11/17 1:27:09 AM #30: |
Howl posted...
Paper_Okami posted...There is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. So which side of the argument are you taking? --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 10/11/17 1:30:16 AM #31: |
The23rdMagus posted...
Howl posted...Paper_Okami posted... He says there is no argument of any merit that can possibly prove colonialism was good. The United States existing as a result of it proves that wrong. With no colonialism the United States wouldn't exist and all the amazing advances in culture, science, international agreement etc. wouldn't have happened. That argument has plenty of merit. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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