Current Events > So, serious question:what do people actually think will happen if guns are taken

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...away? Meaning if there are more restrictions in place, as many liberals want to happen. More rules on who can and cannot get them

the military will wait until this happens for their long sought opportunity to oppress everyone? Which they couldn't do now because of all of the "good guys with guns" who would stop them? They are waiting for the chance to pounce and create a police state?

Is this really what people are worried about? If the military actually wanted to kill people and take their guns and control everything, they wouldn't need gun restrictions to do it.

Fam_Fam posted...

...away? Meaning if there are more restrictions in place, as many liberals want to happen. More rules on who can and cannot get them

the military will wait until this happens for their long sought opportunity to oppress everyone? Which they couldn't do now because of all of the "good guys with guns" who would stop them? They are waiting for the chance to pounce and create a police state?

Is this really what people are worried about? If the military actually wanted to kill people and take their guns and control everything, they wouldn't need gun restrictions to do it.

Aside from completely bombing all of America, the military would not have an easy time taking on millions of Americans with guns. How are they going to take guns away? Go door to door with a shotgun to the face waiting for them?
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Guns will never be taken away. I don't get why people think that is possible for America.
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The military wouldn't have to face the millions of gun owners. Throughout America's history, our private gun owners have shown that they are all too willing to turn a blind eye towards tyranny - or abet it - provided it is directed towards the right groups.
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Law abiding citizens would not have as many effective means to defend their homes. The AR-15 variants (or the "assault rifle" that "no one needs to own" as it's know to liberals) is one of the best home defense weapons.

Also no one thinks that the military would instantly turn on us if our guns rights were restricted. It's that there is a possibility that government can go tyrannical someday and that an armed populace is a deterrent to that. The side that thinks the police are going to out there to murder innocent black people, that our president is literally Hitler and that all our politicians are bought and paid for by corrupt corporate interests has no business laughing at the idea that there the potential for the government to go tyrannical some day.
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Antifar posted...

The military wouldn't have to face the millions of gun owners. Throughout America's history, our private gun owners have shown that they are all too willing to turn a blind eye towards tyranny - or abet it - provided it is directed towards the right groups.

You realize if the US military ever turned against the American people our guns would be nothing compared to their fire power.
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Is this really what people are worried about? If the military actually wanted to kill people and take their guns and control everything, they wouldn't need gun restrictions to do it.

And? Humans have even less of a chance of successfully jumping to the moon than defending themselves against the military, (or if you want to be really obtuse, about the same chance) but they should still have the right to try.
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Two biggest problems I see:

Once guns are banned, how do you go about collecting them? Sure, some people will begrudgingly turn them in, but I have no doubt that lots of up to that point law abiding citizens will lose it and you are going to have more death and violence in the short term than it will prevent. Not to mention many in the military would refuse to take the arms of fellow citizens (at least ones willing to die to keep them).

Plus... so, so many are out there that aren't registered or maybe technically were but have been gifted and traded and sold on the black market enough that no one is going to find them. People will still have guns if they really want them and are willing to pay. Some of those will be "good" people that still want a gun, but its also going to mean lots of criminals with guns and fewer regular people able to defend themselves.
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Obviously if the government wants to take away our guns they should start with Illegal fire arms first. Course with the Republicans in control of every branch of the government there is nothing to worry about Guns won't be taken away.
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Goat farmers in Afghanistan armed with nothing but home made bombs and AK's have held off the US for 16 years
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The US citizenry has a long history of ignoring laws against victimless crime. I imagine that a war on guns would play out similarly to the war on drugs. A significant portion of the population wouldn't respect the law, and otherwise law-abiding citizens would participate in a black market.
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You guys act like they have to come and take your guns if they make them illegal. Its like making certain tint-levels illegal. Cops aren't gonna go house to house and look if your tint is legal, but when they see you then you're getting a ticket. So if you're seen with a gun then you'll probably be going to jail.
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In the short term: Crime will increase. Unlike Australia, the guns outnumber people here. A gun ban will only create one of the greatest black markets the world has ever seen.

In the long term: The fear of a tyrannical government taking over becomes a real fear. Maybe not today or 10 years from now, but what about 100 years from now?

The issue is how do you effectively remove guns from the American market and reliably keep them out? Because if you don't do that, then the "only taking guns away from the good guys" argument has merit.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

The issue is how do you effectively remove guns from the American market and reliably keep them out?

Abject tyranny.
There's (an estimated) 350 million guns, for (about) 340 million people. Good luck with that.