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zado19
02/11/18 2:35:04 PM
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what a strange term..... aren't phobias about things you are scared of?
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Bio1590
02/11/18 2:35:57 PM
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No, phobias are certainly not just things you are "scared" of
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:36:12 PM
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smh
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TheGrindery
02/11/18 2:36:24 PM
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Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.
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hortanz
02/11/18 2:37:11 PM
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phobia
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noun
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias

an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.
"he had a phobia about being under water"
synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion;

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hockeybub89
02/11/18 2:37:41 PM
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zado19
02/11/18 2:38:30 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
No, phobias are certainly not just things you are "scared" of

the word means irrational fear though
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Genocet_10-325
02/11/18 2:38:30 PM
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zado19 posted...
what a strange term..... aren't phobias about things you are scared of?


Do you think most homophobes are afraid of gay people?

Lofl
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Genocet_10-325
02/11/18 2:38:57 PM
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zado19 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
No, phobias are certainly not just things you are "scared" of

the word means irrational fear though


Fear or aversion.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:39:17 PM
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*quotes endgame*
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 2:39:26 PM
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Why do we say oil is afraid of water when oil doesn't have emotions?

Checkmate, atheists.
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zado19
02/11/18 2:39:48 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.

interesting...

Genocet_10-325 posted...
zado19 posted...
what a strange term..... aren't phobias about things you are scared of?


Do you think most homophobes are afraid of gay people?

Lofl

couldnt fit both in the title..... this is the point im making
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Genocet_10-325
02/11/18 2:41:33 PM
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zado19 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.

interesting...

Genocet_10-325 posted...
zado19 posted...
what a strange term..... aren't phobias about things you are scared of?


Do you think most homophobes are afraid of gay people?

Lofl

couldnt fit both in the title..... this is the point im making

hortanz posted...
phobia
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noun
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias

an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.
"he had a phobia about being under water"
synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion;

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TheGrindery
02/11/18 2:42:02 PM
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averagejoel
02/11/18 2:43:57 PM
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definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive
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FLUFFYGERM
02/11/18 2:44:56 PM
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so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?
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hortanz
02/11/18 2:45:19 PM
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averagejoel posted...
definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive


the usage of phobia hasn't really transcended any of the meanings in that definition to make it obsolete
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gunplagirl
02/11/18 2:45:58 PM
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How do misnomers work?
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:46:59 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

i cant tell if youre asking this in good faith or aiming for a shitty gotcha moment by saying something dumb like "well what if i was disgusted by the way she acts??!?!?!?!!?!?!"
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prettyprincess
02/11/18 2:47:06 PM
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counter q's: do you think language is fluid?
do you believe fear is a sliding scale of aversions that correlates to other negative emotions?
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gunplagirl
02/11/18 2:47:14 PM
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hortanz posted...
averagejoel posted...
definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive


the usage of phobia hasn't really transcended any of the meanings in that definition to make it obsolete

I have this user tagged because one time he touched a girls hair and she was creeped out by it. Take what they said with a heaping load of salt.
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TheGrindery
02/11/18 2:47:14 PM
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A massive amount of people can't use the word literally correctly and you're complaining about the misuse of phobia. lol
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:47:58 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
hortanz posted...
averagejoel posted...
definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive


the usage of phobia hasn't really transcended any of the meanings in that definition to make it obsolete

I have this user tagged because one time he touched a girls hair and she was creeped out by it. Take what they said with a heaping load of salt.

who

hortanz? its not his fault hes him

just kidding youre my friend
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 2:48:08 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.
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hortanz
02/11/18 2:48:26 PM
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wow I finally achieved my goal of being shamed for a joke post in an entirely unrelated topic
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Illuminoius
02/11/18 2:48:40 PM
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it's incredibly stupid to try using dictionary definitions and ignore the meanings that actual people give to the words they use
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:48:56 PM
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hortanz posted...
wow I finally achieved my goal of being shamed for a joke post in an entirely unrelated topic

:P
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hyperpsycho
02/11/18 2:48:56 PM
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Shut the fuck up tc
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FLUFFYGERM
02/11/18 2:49:07 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is literally the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.


then trying to scare people into something by using "transphobic" as a label is meaningless
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Sayoria
02/11/18 2:49:39 PM
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People need to stop being so serious about this trans stuff.

Shit, we are just people.
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hortanz
02/11/18 2:50:46 PM
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Illuminoius posted...
it's incredibly stupid to try using dictionary definitions and ignore the meanings that actual people give to the words they use


yeah in the case of words like "literally" where its usage has grown past the limitations that were originally set in dictionaries

thats not the case with x-phobic terms
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 2:51:27 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is literally the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.


then trying to scare people into something by using "transphobic" as a label is meaningless

What? Describing people who are grossed out by trans people as grossed out by trans people is pointless because... SJWs or something?

I seem to not know what the hell you're saying.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 2:52:57 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is literally the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.


then trying to scare people into something by using "transphobic" as a label is meaningless

What? Describing people who are grossed out by trans people as grossed out by trans people is pointless because... SJWs or something?

I seem to not know what the hell you're saying.

yeah no point in talking to him

hes just asking stupid leading questions so he can feel smart
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FLUFFYGERM
02/11/18 2:56:54 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is literally the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.


then trying to scare people into something by using "transphobic" as a label is meaningless

What? Describing people who are grossed out by trans people as grossed out by trans people is pointless because... SJWs or something?

I seem to not know what the hell you're saying.


dont be dense, people here us "transphobic" as a label to scare other people into not crossing some line or w/e

like how gunplagirl thinks youre transphobic if you refuse to date a trans person
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 2:58:24 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
so it's transphobic to be grossed out by a transgirl?

That is literally the definition. If I'm "grossed out" by gay people it isn't not homophobic just because I'm not gay.


then trying to scare people into something by using "transphobic" as a label is meaningless

What? Describing people who are grossed out by trans people as grossed out by trans people is pointless because... SJWs or something?

I seem to not know what the hell you're saying.


dont be dense, people here us "transphobic" as a label to scare other people into not crossing some line or w/e

like how gunplagirl thinks youre transphobic if you refuse to date a trans person

And? People misuse terms. News at 11.

Having a strong aversion to something makes you -phobic. Full stop.
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_Schwarzlicht_
02/11/18 3:02:53 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Having a strong aversion to something makes you -phobic. Full stop.

Guess I'm brussels sprouts-phobic tbh
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 3:04:46 PM
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_Schwarzlicht_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Having a strong aversion to something makes you -phobic. Full stop.

Guess I'm brussels sprouts-phobic tbh

I guess so, but I don't know if we have made a word for that yet. Do you think oil is actually terrified of water? It's hydrophobic.
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monkeysample
02/11/18 3:06:29 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.


There you have it. End thread, really.
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EbonTitanium
02/11/18 3:07:04 PM
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You can now be called transphobic for not wanting to hook-up with trans people.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 3:07:57 PM
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why do people make this topic over and over
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hockeybub89
02/11/18 3:09:06 PM
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EbonTitanium posted...
You can now be called transphobic for not wanting to hook-up with trans people.


hockeybub89 posted...
The KKK isn't not racist because somebody was called racist for not liking the new Jay Z album.

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LordMarshal
02/11/18 3:11:00 PM
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TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.


No its not.

"an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat."

Disgust has nothing to do with it. People just make shit up now.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 3:11:22 PM
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hortanz posted...
phobia
fb/
noun
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias

an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.
"he had a phobia about being under water"
synonyms:fear, irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion;

LordMarshal posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.


No its not.

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creativerealms
02/11/18 3:12:16 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
No, phobias are certainly not just things you are "scared" of

They are irrational fears.
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creativerealms
02/11/18 3:13:52 PM
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EbonTitanium posted...
You can now be called transphobic for not wanting to hook-up with trans people.

Which is stupid.
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gunplagirl
02/11/18 3:17:45 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
why do people make this topic over and over

It helps reiterate to themselves and those they hate that they have control and are actively trying to destroy their victims. You know. The same reason why trump keeps targeting lgbt protections but especially basic trans rights. Like not being denied service from a physician on a completely unrelated subject matter.
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TheGrindery
02/11/18 3:18:05 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Fear is a combination of disgust and unease.


No its not.

"an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat."

Disgust has nothing to do with it. People just make shit up now.

Because dictionary definitions explore psychological implications of emotions in depth.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/11/18 3:20:11 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
why do people make this topic over and over

It helps reiterate to themselves and those they hate that they have control and are actively trying to destroy their victims. You know. The same reason why trump keeps targeting lgbt protections but especially basic trans rights. Like not being denied service from a physician on a completely unrelated subject matter.

huh

i guess

like it just really bugs me when people ask questions like this and act like they're just curious or whatever, but in reality, no matter what, there viewpoint wont change
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gunplagirl
02/11/18 3:22:37 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
why do people make this topic over and over

It helps reiterate to themselves and those they hate that they have control and are actively trying to destroy their victims. You know. The same reason why trump keeps targeting lgbt protections but especially basic trans rights. Like not being denied service from a physician on a completely unrelated subject matter.

huh

i guess

like it just really bugs me when people ask questions like this and act like they're just curious or whatever, but in reality, no matter what, there viewpoint wont change

It's like catcalling. Nobody does it because they think telling a lady "nice ass" is going to have her want to have sex with them. They're doing it to exert dominance and degrade her for existing.

Basically, masculinity is a very fragile, very toxic thing in excess and we're drowning in it on this site because of anonymity and the ease of creating a new account.
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