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LeonhartFour 03/22/18 9:23:53 PM #1: |
of the miracle that is
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transience 03/22/18 9:43:23 PM #2: |
mark any aa6 spoilers until giggs and monica finish 6-5 (who cares about 6-6)
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SeabassDebeste 03/22/18 10:14:08 PM #3: |
i didn't contradict myself! powers's role is plot-minimal (as is most of 2-4's second trial) but it's possibly the most enjoyable part!
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LeonhartFour 03/22/18 10:46:18 PM #4: |
man the TAKE THAT with the cell phone is so great
Peak Phoenix vs. Peak Edgeworth is the best here Mia is the perfect sidekick for it too and this is one of the rare instances where they use the gallery to good effect 2-4 the best --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/22/18 11:21:21 PM #5: |
De Killer naming Adrian as his client (and the silent tension right before he does it) is great and completely flips the momentum of the case
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LeonhartFour 03/22/18 11:26:44 PM #6: |
Phoenix asking de Killer how much his fee is might be the best comedic bit in the series
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ZXAdvent_Lucian 03/22/18 11:53:42 PM #7: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Phoenix asking de Killer how much his fee is might be the best comedic bit in the series I always wondered if, in the DD bad ending, he'd seek out a certain John Doe, hoping that his fee hadn't changed, with a special request in mind. Too grimderp for Phoenix? Probably. --- I'd put in some lyrics to whatever song is stuck in my head currently here, but it's an instrumental. Dang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/22/18 11:54:53 PM #8: |
I kinda like de Killer's testimonies here because none of them are straightforward. It requires some clever usage of pressing in particular ways that you don't really see elsewhere in the series. There's one in particular where the game makes it seem like pressing is absolutely the wrong thing to do (and it still gives me pause because it looks like de Killer is about to lose it), but you still have to go through with it. There's also one where you have to press and then tell the Judge that what de Killer said wasn't important in order to get the piece of testimony you need, which you wouldn't normally think of doing.
Actually, one of the things I kinda miss about the newer games is how they don't use pressing as effectively as Takumi did at times, where you sometimes had to press in a certain order or go back after you heard something somewhere else in the testimony first. It could be kind of frustrating or annoying at times, but I still enjoyed it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 12:34:36 AM #9: |
"I can't count on the evidence to help me anymore."
*Court Record button disappears* such a great little touch it's also cool that the game refuses to let you save during this part so you have to commit to one or the other --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Natwaf_akidna 03/23/18 12:47:48 AM #10: |
My client, Matt Engarde, is...
Oh god I love that choice so much --- Natwaf congratulates BKSheikah, Winner of the 2017 BYoG Guru contest! But Asagi Igawa is still the best Waifu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 1:11:05 AM #11: |
that Adrian smile at the end is a nice bow on top of this case
speaking of which I guess I get back to back Adrian cases heck yeah --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 03/23/18 1:21:13 AM #12: |
2-4 is the best case
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 1:44:34 AM #13: |
whew 2-4 complete
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 2:20:51 AM #14: |
Total lines by segment:
2-4 Trial Day 2 - 1613 2-4 Investigation Day 1 - 1595 2-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1432 1-5 Trial Day 3 - 1338 2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1331 2-4 Trial Day 1 - 1306 3-4 - 1225 3-1 - 1167 E1-4 Middle - 1030 1-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1004 E1-4 End - 979 1-5 Trial Day 1 - 938 1-5 Investigation Day 3 - 932 E1-4 Beginning - 926 2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 924 2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 900 2-1 - 899 1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 874 2-3 Trial Day 1 - 851 1-5 Trial Day 2 - 827 2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 808 2-3 Trial Day 2 - 802 2-2 Trial Day 2 - 764 1-4 Investigation Day 2 - 729 1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 700 1-3 Investigation Day 2 - 661 1-4 Trial Day 3 - 626 2-2 Trial Day 1 - 623 1-2 Trial Day 1 - 524 1-4 Trial Day 1 - 519 1-3 Trial Day 2 - 517 1-4 Investigation Day 3 - 478 1-3 Investigation Day 1 - 455 1-2 Trial Day 2 - 447 1-4 Trial Day 2 - 414 1-3 Trial Day 3 - 403 1-2 Investigation Day 1 - 402 1-2 Investigation Day 2 - 400 1-1 - 389 1-3 Trial Day 1 - 380 1-3 Investigation Day 3 - 325 Total lines by case: 2-4 - 5946 1-5 - 5913 2-3 - 3884 1-4 - 3466 2-2 - 3119 E1-4 - 2935 1-3 - 2741 1-2 - 1773 3-4 - 1225 3-1 - 1167 2-2 - 899 1-1 - 389 Totals lines by game: PW1 - 14282 JFA - 13848 AAI1 - 2935 T&T - 2393 Total lines between investigations and trials: 2-2 Investigations - 1732 (55.53%) 2-2 Trials - 1387 (44.47%) 2-3 Investigations - 2231 (57.44%) 2-3 Trials - 1653 (42.56%) 2-4 Investigations - 3027 (50.91%) 2-4 Trials - 2919 (49.09%) JFA Investigations - 6990 (50.48%) JFA Trials (including 2-1) - 6858 (49.52%) JFA Investigations - 6990 (53.98%) JFA Trials (excluding 2-1) - 5959 (46.02%) Total lines by character per case: Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) 1. Phoenix Wright - 2194 (36.90%) 2. Pearl Fey - 576 (9.69%) 3. Miles Edgeworth - 554 (9.32%) 4. The Judge - 545 (9.17%) 5. Dick Gumshoe - 346 (5.82%) 6. Adrian Andrews - 332 (5.58%) 7. Will Powers - 246 (4.14%) 8. Wendy Oldbag - 232 (3.90%) 9. Shelly de Killer - 219 (3.68%) 10. Mia Fey - 172 (2.89%) 11. Matt Engarde - 171 (2.88%) 12. Maya Fey - 125 (2.10%) 13. Lotta Hart - 92 (1.55%) 14. Franziska von Karma - 78 (1.31%) 15. Other - 33 16. Director Hotti - 12 17. Chief of Detectives - 12 18. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 2 19. Maxmillion Galactica - 2 20. Maggey Byrde - 1 21. Regina Berry - 1 22. Trilo Quist - 1 Percentage of lines per case by game: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-5 - 41.40% 1-4 - 24.27% 1-3 - 19.19% 1-2 - 12.41% 1-1 - 2.72% Justice for All 2-4 - 42.94% 2-3 - 28.05% 2-2 - 22.52% 2-1 - 6.49% --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 2:21:30 AM #15: |
Total lines by character per game:
Justice for All 1. Phoenix Wright - 5129 (37.04%) 2. The Judge - 1235 (8.92%) 3. Maya Fey - 1218 (8.80%) 4. Pearl Fey - 741 (5.35%) 5. Dick Gumshoe - 667 (4.82%) 6. Franziska von Karma - 571 (4.12%) 7. Miles Edgeworth - 557 (4.02%) 8. Adrian Andrews - 332 9. Mia Fey - 327 10. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320 11. Ini Miney - 275 12. Will Powers - 246 13. Lotta Hart - 245 14. Wendy Oldbag - 232 15. Shelly de Killer - 219 16. Maximillion Galactica - 203 17. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200 18. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182 19. Matt Engarde - 171 20. Morgan Fey - 163 21. Regina Berry - 151 22. Trilo Quist - 140 23. Richard Wellington - 107 24. Maggey Byrde - 89 25. Winston Payne - 85 26. Director Hotti - 71 27. Benjamin Woodman - 60 28. Other - 59 29. Turner Grey - 39 30. Chief of Detectives - 12 31. Russell Berry - 2 Most lines per case: Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 2194 Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032 Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370 Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328 Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236 Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211 Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117 Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812 Mia Fey (3-4) - 436 Mia Fey (3-1) - 396 Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329 Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135 Highest percentage of lines per case: Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80% Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25% Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92% Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75% Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 36.90% Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60% Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59% Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94% Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70% Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36% Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93% Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82% Testimonies by character: 1. Dick Gumshoe - 83 lines/15 testimonies 2. Dahlia Hawthorne - 48 lines/8 testimonies 3. Wendy Oldbag - 45 lines/8 testimonies 4. Adrian Andrews - 34 lines/6 testimonies 5. Lotta Hart - 31 lines/6 testimonies 6. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 34 lines/5 testimonies 7. Calisto Yew - 21 lines/5 testimonies 8. Redd White - 29 lines/4 testimonies 9. Angel Starr - 24 lines/4 testimonies 10. Ini Miney - 24 lines/4 testimonies 11. Shelly de Killer - 22 lines/4 testimonies 12. Cody Hackins - 21 lines/3 testimonies 13. Damon Gant - 20 lines/3 testimonies 14. Frank Sahwit - 20 lines/3 testimonies 15. Lana Skye - 19 lines/3 testimonies 16. Jake Marshall - 18 lines/3 testimonies 17. Phoenix Wright - 17 lines/3 testimonies 18. Trilo Quist - 17 lines/3 testimonies 19. Will Powers - 17 lines/3 testimonies 20. Ema Skye - 15 lines/3 testimonies 21. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 15 lines/3 testimonies 22. Mike Meekins - 15 lines/3 testimonies 23. Dee Vasquez - 16 lines/2 testimonies 24. April May - 14 lines/2 testimonies 25. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies 26. Larry Butz - 12 lines/2 testimonies 27. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies 28. Franziska von Karma - 10 lines/2 testimonies 29. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies 30. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies 31. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony 32. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony 33. Tyrell Badd - 6 lines/1 testimony 34. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony 35. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony 36. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 2:22:00 AM #16: |
Total lines by character:
1. Phoenix Wright - 10595 2. Miles Edgeworth - 3109 3. The Judge - 2911 4. Maya Fey - 2490 5. Dick Gumshoe - 1616 6. Mia Fey - 1346 7. Ema Skye - 1150 8. Franziska von Karma - 1090 9. Pearl Fey - 742 10. Wendy Oldbag - 442 11. Lotta Hart - 437 12. Adrian Andrews - 332 13. Will Powers - 329 14. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320 15. Manfred von Karma - 316 16. Winston Payne - 295 17. Damon Gant - 285 18. Dahlia Hawthorne - 284 19. Ini Miney - 275 20. Angel Starr - 272 21. Jake Marshall - 257 22. Calisto Yew - 256 23. Lana Skye - 249 24. Tyrell Badd - 242 25. Marvin Grossberg - 234 26. The Judge's Brother - 221 27. Shelly de Killer - 219 28. Maximillion Galactica - 203 29. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200 30. Larry Butz - 182 31. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182 32. Other - 174 33. Matt Engarde - 171 34. Morgan Fey - 163 35. Redd White - 162 36. Regina Berry - 151 37. Dee Vasquez - 148 38. Trilo Quist - 140 39. Cody Hackins - 135 40. Mike Meekins - 128 41. Godot - 112 42. Richard Wellington - 107 43. April May - 104 44. Kay Faraday - 99 45. Yanni Yogi - 98 46. Maggey Byrde - 89 47. Penny Nichols - 86 48. Terry Fawles - 74 49. Director Hotti - 71 50. Benjamin Woodman - 60 51. Frank Sahwit - 58 52. Sal Manella - 57 53. The Bellboy - 57 54. Turner Grey - 39 55. Chief of Detectives - 36 56. Polly - 20 57. Gregory Edgeworth - 5 58. Shi-Long Lang - 3 Overall total lines - 33458 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transcience 03/23/18 6:35:25 AM #17: |
Edgeworth really has as many lines as Franziska in AA2? man 2-4 really is that entire game.
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 11:54:11 AM #18: |
Franziska is only the prosecutor for two cases out of four, and she has no presence in investigations, unlike Edgeworth in 2-4.
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SeabassDebeste 03/23/18 11:54:59 AM #19: |
she briefly appears out of court in 2-3, but she's not part of the case like edgey is in 2-4, yeah.
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 12:01:42 PM #20: |
it's still not quite as ridiculous as Ema having more lines than Edgeworth in PW1 regardless
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_Harmonica_ 03/23/18 12:51:33 PM #21: |
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 12:51:59 PM #22: |
heck yeah 6-5
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_Harmonica_ 03/23/18 2:45:23 PM #23: |
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 3:47:14 PM #24: |
_Harmonica_ posted...
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 4:23:20 PM #25: |
Pearl: Mr. Nick, if you work a little harder, maybe you can have your own copycats someday!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 5:30:36 PM #26: |
Speaking of the game being dumb about obvious stuff, perhaps the worst offender is 3-2 with the Sacred Urn, the box, and the paint. It's pretty clear almost right away what happens, but the game doesn't let you "solve" it until the end of the second investigation day.
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SeabassDebeste 03/23/18 5:41:55 PM #27: |
i didn't mind that one much since it's such a lighthearted case. generally i'm much more forgiving with cases that don't demand to be taken seriously.
also, i have to admit i love the end of investigation day 2, so specifically that instance i enjoyed holding as a climax! --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/23/18 5:57:40 PM #28: |
Eh, I just think the excuses the game gives you are lame. Phoenix tells Maya not to touch the box with the paint stains on it because there might be clues to the thief's identity on it...even on the second day when Atmey's already confessed and Ron is your client. It's just really flimsy.
but man 3-2's music is so good Atmey's theme, the Mask*DeMasque theme, and soon to be Godot's theme for the first time --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 03/23/18 6:47:52 PM #29: |
i really likely lordly tailor too. so weird that they use such a good track for something so inconsequential!
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Leonhart4 03/23/18 7:39:33 PM #30: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
i really likely lordly tailor too. so weird that they use such a good track for something so inconsequential! I mean it feels like the type of song you would use in a department store You're just trying to create a song that fits the location and they succeeded there. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Harmonica_ 03/23/18 7:47:10 PM #31: |
6-5 completed. That was a ride!
I'll try to post some final thoughts later on. For now, I'll just say that the last big twist genuinely caught me off guard and actually made me think back to all the related plot points, only to realize it made perfect sense. Finally nailing the culprit was almost as satisfying as Engarde. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transcience 03/23/18 7:55:16 PM #32: |
I was impressed by your foresight. much better than me, that's for sure!
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Leonhart4 03/23/18 8:24:47 PM #33: |
Depending on what you mean by "last big twist," that might be one of the big things about 6-5 I guessed right on!
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transcience 03/23/18 9:07:44 PM #34: |
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transcience 03/23/18 9:37:49 PM #35: |
here's that message, by the way!
1. I'm 99% positive Nayna is the killer, and she's also probably Queen Amara, although I can't quite figure out why she'd want to frame Dhurke for it. 2. Inga has prosopagnosia like Ace in 999 does, which is why he has those notes of physical descriptions, and it's why Nayna removed her hat, so he wouldn't recognize her. Should make for an interesting Divination Seance if I'm right! 3. Speaking of which, I'm assuming we'll get a Divination Seance of Apollo's dad when it comes time to tackle the truth of 23 years ago. Should be good! 4. Queen Ga'ran doesn't actually have any spiritual powers. Ahlbi showed us that picture of her supposedly in the middle of a channeling, but she looks exactly the same. That's why she wants the Founder's Orb, and why they had to abduct Maya Fey. I'm assuming she was in on the plot with Inga. Ga'ran = Morgan Fey; Amara = Misty Fey? I think so! I guess that would make Inga...Ini Miney? 5. On that note, Rayfa is actually Amara's daughter, not Ga'ran's, which is why she does have spiritual powers. Pretty sure that baby in the picture is her, not Nahyuta, based on how she reacted to seeing it. I'm thinking that's why Nayna foiled the plot--to protect Rayfa because I'm thinking Ga'ran would've killed off Rayfa once she had the spiritual power from the Holy Mother. 6. Speaking of which, I wonder if Maya will channel her at some point or if it's going to end up being one of those "We'd better not ever do that" type things. Well, I guess Amara could, too, since she should know the Holy Mother's true name. I imagine Maya will be a witness at some point since she was in the room when the murder happened. Man, they brought Maya back, but we don't ever get her in the role we all wanted to see her in as a real assistant. Maybe in the DLC case! Anyway, I usually don't have this many theories, but these all seem like natural conclusions to draw, which means the game is intentionally misleading me and I'll be horribly wrong or I had a rare moment of clarity. I guess we'll see! --- add the c and back away iphonesience ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 03/23/18 9:40:26 PM #36: |
harm, you're the only one i've seen make the call that
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Leonhart4 03/23/18 9:41:30 PM #37: |
transcience posted...
Oh no doubt. That was the big one. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 03/23/18 10:29:56 PM #38: |
I like that we're talking about 2-4 and 6-5, the two best cases
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LeonhartFour 03/24/18 1:41:43 AM #39: |
Whew, 3-2 investigation day 1 complete! This day ends up being so loaded because they spend a lot of time reviewing events from the previous two games.
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LeonhartFour 03/24/18 8:13:33 PM #40: |
the first time I played the main reason I didn't believe Atmey could be Mask*DeMasque was because there was no way his nose could fit inside that mask
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LeonhartFour 03/24/18 9:49:42 PM #41: |
3-2 trial day 1 complete! I like how breezy it is, especially after how long the investigation day is.
Also, it's kind of neat that the very first thing Phoenix argues during Gumshoe's testimony is that the Mask*DeMasque who stole the Sacred Urn had to be a fake because it didn't fit his M.O. and it turns out he's completely right! It just doesn't come back around until much later. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/25/18 2:35:46 PM #42: |
is Kane Bullard the most forgettable victim
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SeabassDebeste 03/25/18 2:44:33 PM #43: |
mask*demasque 2, probably. though glen elg isn't exactly super-memorable either, and i don't remember the master's name from 6-4
deid mann might be the worst, but at that point the localizers were going for the memes. hard to hate. --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 03/25/18 2:46:02 PM #44: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
though glen elg isn't exactly super-memorable either WHAT Glen Elg is one of the best victims we never get to meet but yeah the DeMasque impostor in E1-5 probably takes the cake because the second murder there feels so unimportant --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 03/25/18 2:48:46 PM #45: |
glen elg is cool because of the the scouter he wears and he's in a cool case, but it's easy to forget he's part of 3-3 due to everything else going on in that case, i think
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LeonhartFour 03/25/18 2:51:18 PM #46: |
it's hard to forget Elg's a part of it because the entire case revolves around what Elg did at the time he was poisoned (even if it was a fake Elg half the time)
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SeabassDebeste 03/25/18 2:55:22 PM #47: |
this discussion is reminding me just how absurd 3-3 was!
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LeonhartFour 03/25/18 2:56:27 PM #48: |
Juan Corrida is probably the best victim you never get to meet, but Russell Berry's up there, too. Turner Grey has one of the best victim dying moments ever with that image of him shooting the gun with a knife sticking out of his chest. Dustin Prince has one of the best name puns in the series.
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Paratroopa1 03/25/18 3:24:25 PM #49: |
AA3 has pretty good victims aside from Kane Bullard, shoutout to Doug Swallow for trying to be a good dude and protect Phoenix from his murderous ex-girlfriend
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LeonhartFour 03/25/18 3:28:02 PM #50: |
Yeah, Bullard is the weak link, but T&T's victims are pretty solid otherwise.
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