Board 8 > Arria plays/reads Umineko blind, Kira cackles at her SPOILERS ARE OKAY #3

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Eerieka
10/21/18 5:48:51 PM
#301:


This is my (Kira's) notes. Just me organizing my thoughts, as I did with Ep 1 and 2.

Ep 3:

Twilight 1: Easiest case scenario, Sayo killed Genji, Gohda, and Kumasawa and put their bodies in certain locations with keys to the next location. Of course, she has two master keys so she can go wherever. Even if all that business about the adults finding the servants bodies was true, then Sayo dressed as Shannon and pretended to be dead, waited for everyone to leave, and then went to the chapel dressed as Kanon and waited for everyone find Kanon was dead. Im not entirely convinced that even happened, however.

Twilight 2: Eva and Rosa both solved the riddle, but Eva got there first. Rosa wanted to split the money and Eva was like yeah nah go fuck yourself so they got into an argument. Or possibly Rosa was like yeah nah go fuck yourself and started the argument which ended in Eva acting in self-defense and accidentally killing her. Not sure how one can accidentally kill a little girl like Maria, so Im inclined to believe Eva DID have some evilness in her. Probably meant to shut her up so she wouldnt go back and be like uu uu Auntie Eva killed Mama! Uu! Eva left, then Sayo walked by intending to commit murder and found out it had already been done for her.
Took me a while to find, but I remembered a blog I read some time ago that had this picture that sums up Sayo's involvement pretty well:
http://goatsreadingseacats.tumblr.com/post/59152836343/the-adventures-of-yasu

Twilight 4, 5, 6: Eva, Hideyoshi, Rudolf, and Kyrie went to the mansion. Eva and Hideyoshi went under the pretense of finding food but also intending to murder Rudolf and Kyrie. Meanwhile Rudolf and Kyrie went under the pretense of finding food and also intending to figure out what shenanigans Eva and Hideyoshi were up to (and also committing murder if necessary). Im not entirely sure who shot who and when, but in the end, Eva and Hideyoshi killed the other two, but Rudolf shot Hideyoshi. Eva escaped unscathed. Sayo then came by intending to murder, but found out her dirty work had already been done, so she planted the stakes in their bodies and continued on.

Twilight 7 and 8: Eva brewed poisoned coffee for Natsuhi and Krauss.

Then Sayo called up her best bud and accomplice Nanjo and told her to inform George that she was alive and waiting for him in the mansion. He went there and talked to her, and then she murdered him. Reasons include the usual i.e. she told him she was a mangled male and he couldnt handle it, or shed already given up on this game board and wanted to say her final farewells. Either way, she killed George. Its also possible that in the duel between Shannon and Kanon, Kanon won out in this one, hence why Sayo comes back as Kanon to save Jessica later.

That whole affair with Jessica going blind occurred the way we see it. Nanjo took her into the servants room or whatever it was. While there, Sayo came by an killed Nanjo. She then used her best Kanon voice to convince Jessica to hide because he thought Eva was still on a murder spree and he was afraid that Jessica would be next. He likely told her that she couldnt touch him because he was either in Shannons outfit or Beatrices dress and Jessica would ask him why the fuck hes wearing a dress/meido outfit.

Eva shot Battler because he was acting shady as fuck and accusing her of murdering everyone (I mean he was right). Then she ran to Kuwadorian where she was safe from the bomb.
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Raka_Putra
10/22/18 9:35:41 PM
#302:


Whee I'm back from my short exodus. Really glad to see this topic's still around!
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Eerieka
10/22/18 11:33:56 PM
#303:


I will never let the topic purge! It's just me, you, and Popcorn Fairy. I assume Jeffrey Raze and Mega Mana are still around and posting sporadically. :P

Arria had a busy month so we went a while without reading, but we just had another session and I'm starting new updates now. Hope you stay a while, Raka! We're in with Erika shenanigans now, and soon Dlanor.

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Day 33 (10/19/2018)

We start on the 2nd day. The text says an alarm clock is going off, but theres no noise thankfully or else Arria would punch her screen.

A: Before the screen got a background, I was half expecting Battler to have been buried alive with his alarm clock. Like BEEP BEEP BEEP Why cant I turn this fucker off!?

Battler: This law of summer camp awakenings that I just made up.
A: *laughs* at least you admit you made it up.

Battler says he woke up at 7 in the morning
A: If memory serves, wasnt he up until 4?
K: Yeah, the parents kept him up late because he had to join them for family talk shenanigans
A: Congratulations! Youre the Head of the Family! You only get to sleep 3 hours a day

A: Battler just reminded me that I needed to amend a personal opinion of mine. Even an ugly man can become hot in a suit, right? Im changing that. It doesnt apply to politicians. Then youre so evil the ugliness seeps through. To be fair, Battler is, well just Battler at this point. Not necessarily attractive, but someone I want to beat with an encyclopedia. But his suit is attractive, albeit one with a questionable zipper.
K: I think it took me a while, especially back when all I had were Ryukishi's sprites, but I do think Battler is kinda hot. Although my favorite artwork of him, besides the one of him naked and on a leash, is some fanart I've seen of him without his coat. Underneath he's wearing a red shirt and black waistcoat. In other words, my favorite male outfit in my favorite colors.
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Eerieka
10/23/18 5:24:58 PM
#304:


Battler talks about turning on the light to wake them up
A: Oh God, hes going to be surrounded by corpses, isnt he?
The screen becomes the bloody demon mouth picture
A: The game tell me Im right!

Eva cries over Georges corpse
A: Guys, this might not be the time to fuck with Eva. This is a legit moment to freak out.

Rudolf tells Kyrie to put a blanket over the corpses so they dont catch a cold
A: What the fuck is this phrasing? Is he making a joke? Is he trying to show compassion? Is this some weird Japanese translation?
We check, and he literally says kaze o hiku soooo
K: I dont even know.
A: Is this some way of trying to cover the bodies and not be morbid about it? Because thats almost worse!
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Eerieka
10/24/18 2:20:53 PM
#305:


A: Also, can we take a moment to appreciate the absolute HORROR of this scene? Imagine being Battler. He was so fucking tired last night that he stumbled into bed without noticing anything wrong. I imaging they were already dead when he got here. Thats how I interpret it anyway. And then the alarm clock goes off, hes probably thinking George, turn it off. Hey George, turn that shit off. And then he turns on the lights and George is fucking dead. I imagine thats the point he opens his mouth and just goes blank. When the screen cut to Eva screaming, I imagine thats the next thing Battler remembers!

A: Two thoughts: one, he was so out of it when he came back that he went to bed without turning on the lights, and being fully clothed, so he didnt notice them. OR it happened in the three hours he was asleep and he slept through that which is also horrifying!

Erika shows up and talks about the wonderful magic circle. Arria went a few sentences, and then had to go back and reread it.
A: Im sorry. It took my brain a moment to parse that. Eva is going to murder this girl. Also, I read that wonderful magic circle in the same voice from Howls Moving Castle what a pretty fire.
Erika then gives a half-assed Im sorry your family was killed
A: You dont get to go from admiring the murderers artwork to my condolences for you loss in the same breath!
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Eerieka
10/25/18 2:57:42 PM
#306:


Erika says its her right as detective to investigate the scene.
A: Did she just break the fourth wall? And I dont mean the wall between her and us. But between her and Bern?

Eva: Joooooojjiiiiii
A: I like how they took take to include Eva still screaming like a madwoman. Like, can we hear it from everyone in the room? Yeah, Erika go back! JOOOOJIIIIII!!!!

Then Erika uses the red truth on the game board.
Arria jolts back a bit. Well okay then.

Bern says the Hebrew was crappy
A: *snort* I needed that
Mammon then appears with a face of o_o
A: Haha, thank you Mammon. I needed that, too.
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Mega Mana
10/26/18 1:24:45 AM
#307:


Eerieka posted...
Battler talks about turning on the light to wake them up
A: Oh God, hes going to be surrounded by corpses, isnt he?
The screen becomes the bloody demon mouth picture
A: The game tell me Im right!


That moment, that screen, still haunts me to this day.
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Eerieka
10/26/18 5:09:36 PM
#308:


I must confess, I had forgotten how it happened! I'm usually good at remembering Umineko deaths and how they were found, but I didn't remember how the Ep 5 deaths occurred.

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A: I just remembered I had a dream about Umineko a while ago. I dreamed that there was a lion.
K: Its Sakutaro!
A: Like, I remember there was a legit, real, MGM Studios-type lion just walking around the mansion and you kept going on about what a cool character this lion was!
K: Weird. I mean, there is a character named Lion, pronounced like Leon. Not sure I ever mentioned him or not
A: Maybe you did and my brain dredged that up in my sleep? Like, *fishing rod motions* Hey, its a lion! Where does this go? In Umineko? Alright, thats the dream for tonight!
K: I dont think I mentioned him, though. Must just be your brain conjuring up lions for no reason.
A: In my dream, you were SUPER hyped about me meeting this damn lion.
K: Huh. Weird. Dreams are funny things.
A: Are you excited for me to meet Lion?
K: ehh, not really? Hes alright, but not too exciting.
A: Okay, because in my dream you were SUPER excited about this lion

We couldnt remember who else died, although the game told us a while ago. Arria thought it would be two more servants.
Gohda and Shannon are humming together
A: Okay, now I know this scene is fake because they are never play this nicely with one another
Kumasawa also appears. Then Kanon
A: So much for the they also murdered the servants theory. Also, I like how this is a Disney cartoon. Everyone is coming on stage singing, they probably have birds and chipmunks helping around the kitchen and singing along. And then theres this asshole (Kanon) whos just grumpy and all uggh, someone make the chipmunks shut up.

Kanon: Wheres Genji?
A: Awwww, really? Fuckers
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Eerieka
10/27/18 4:24:19 PM
#309:


Kanon and Kumasawa went to Genjis room and found the sealing tape with a strange signature on it.
A: well thats a weird clue
K: This reminds me of something Ill have to tell you later. I made a reference to this a long time ago, long before you read Umineko.
And she knew what I was talking about!
A: Is it back when we were booby trapping the house?
K: Yes!
(At one point she handed be duct tape and I said haha, you stupid fool. You gave me duct tape! I, Erika (last name), have duct tape! She doesnt remember what I said, but she remembered duct tape. Still, I had no idea she could remember that!)

Beelzebub tells Gohda not to stop making breakfast
A: Gosh youre so cute.

A while ago she asked if the stakes were in her imagination, and I said I think they were just in the peanut gallery providing commentary, but now Natsuhi is speaking to Lucifer while the Man from 19 Years Ago is calling.
K: Okay, never mind. I guess they are in her imagination.
A; Its hard to keep track. Also, if I were her, you know what I would say? Find the person on the other end of this line and murder them.

The man tells Natsuhi to hide in a closet and then hell release Krauss
A: Oh darling. Honey. love of my life. As much as I believe you are hallucinating and this is all in your head, Ill take the benefit of the doubt for a second to tell you that this is one of those phrases you need to remember has a double meaning. I said I would release him, but I meant release him from this mortal coil! Mwahaha!
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Eerieka
10/28/18 5:49:12 PM
#310:


Lambda shows off that she was doing the voice of the man
A: No less creepy, sweetheart! No less creepy!

Game: Erika, youre the main character now
K: *hype*
A: You know those games that have a male protagonist for like 25 years, and then they add a female to stay politically correct, but its awkward and makes everyone uncomfortable? This is that feeling.

A: Thats twisted, though. Playing Krausss voice for Natsuhi. Was he the 6th person? Hell either be dead, or theres a recording of his voice that hes using to fuck with her.
She opens the list of profiles where it shows Kinzo is still alive and also Erika is here now
A: So what does she do for the body count? Are they getting away with saying 18 people still because Kinzo is dead, but shes here?
K: I think the rule theyre going with is Erika is +1 to the number of people on previous game boards.
A: Ahh
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Eerieka
10/29/18 3:14:15 PM
#311:


Eva is hysterical and asking Kyrie now if she killed George.
A: You think she would admit it? Oh my god, I love how shes gone totally off the rails in this episode. I would not be surprised if her next line was POODLES? GEORGE LOVED POODLES!
A: Im guessing Eva-trice isnt going to be in this episode! If shes the culprit, shes really upped her crocodile-tears game.
A: I know you guys arent the most law-abiding citizens. You have to have a sleeping pill somewhere. Someone please give one to Eva!
K: We know Rosa had pills she gave to Maria
A: Yes! Go get her pills! They must still be on her corpse!

Erika says that Krauss might not be the 6th victim. We dont know where Kinzo is. Natsuhi tries keep the trick going.
A: Honey, please. The gig is up.

In the Metaverse, Beato, Gaap, and Ronove talk about the existence of an extra person on the island. Arria wondered if the 19th Man was on another island that was connected to the internal phone line, but not the external. She mentioned some old phone lines that went under the ocean. She wonders if this would allow him to be someone outside the island, but still make internal calls. I just nodded and let her have that idea. A moment later she admitted it was silly and she was just spewing random ideas, but hey, at least shes thinking!
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Eerieka
10/30/18 6:24:50 PM
#312:


Lambda described Krausss bedroom, lots of blood etc. Then Bern says but theres no corpse.
A: Were running on two different wavelengths. One: Oh, Krauss faked his death! He put all this blood here and hes now hiding with a machete! Two: Hes fucking dead and buried in the woods

They start talking about master keys, and then Erika shuts them up by saying it doesnt matter because Genji died and his key was stolen
A: I was just about to think oh no, not the fucking keys again so thank you, Erika!
K: *cackles* (internally: Now she has to deal with duct tape seals instead)

Battler: Do you even have a heart?
A: No, the wizard was all out. I got courage, a brain, and these LOVELY shoes though!

Bern talk about using the shotgun approach to arguing. Using at least three wedges to kill a witch
A: This is fucking creepy. And her voice actress has creepy intonation.
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Eerieka
10/31/18 7:21:40 PM
#313:


They go on about how Kinzo is totally alive, guy! Really! Just as the servant! And then Gohda almost fucks it up
Natsuhi says she has been giving reports to Kinzo and Erika got a cat face
A: Bitch that subtle change of face shes fucking evil.

Erika: It would be good if Kinzo were in there with his throat slit
A: Oh my God

Erika and Battler have a penis-size measuring contest with their knowledge of mystery novels.
A: I love that they took a moment out of this serious conversation to discuss this.

They talk about finding a ladder to reach the third floor window. Gohda says he knows where a ladder is and hell break it.
A: I will laugh if that window is fucking bullet proof. Also, hes such a fucking puppy. Hes like look mommy! I found this outside! while brining in a dead bird and Natsuhi is like Take it back outside! NOW!
Gohda and Natsuhis sprites are superimposed in a way that you cant see Natsuhis left side.
A: I like to imagine shes holding a knife to his back right here.
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/31/18 9:15:50 PM
#314:


Eerieka posted...
A: Bitch that subtle change of face shes fucking evil.


She doesn't know the half of it.
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Eerieka
11/01/18 4:25:12 PM
#315:


Gohda then has a moment where he goes ahahahaha huh? and the voice acting was spot on. Arria laughed like a maniac.

Outside in the rain, there was a line about Shannon and Kanon each holding an umbrella. I wonder if Sayo is actually holding two umbrellas or if its just one and Lambda thinks shes being a clever bitch sliding in that line where no one expects any shenanigans. Rudolf then tells them to stand under the eaves and it doesnt matter if they get went. I wonder if he saw this poor servant with an umbrella in both hands and was like poor thing trying to hard to be useful

Gohda mentioned using hyaluoran and I remembered using it in the ER for something, but Im sure Gohda used it for something else, so we had to look it up. Given the context he said about his knees being bad, it was probably for arthritis. Interestingly, an article mentions that hyaluoran wasnt approved for this use in America or Europe until well after 1986, but it did mention that it was used overseas, so this may not be an anachronism. I couldnt find when it was approved for use in Japan, but ehh guess it doesnt really matter anyway. This is also the world where Card Master Sakura and Higurashi both aired on TV before 1986.

A: So the plan is for Gohda and Battler to hold the ladder while Rudolf goes up and smashes the window? Is this the best idea? Maybe look up and run away the moment the shards come raining on your head.

Oh my god the game literally has Rudolf sing his Jack Bauer song. I explained what was all about
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Eerieka
11/01/18 6:57:29 PM
#316:


I'm not the biggest fan of the Steamed Hams meme, but this looks funny. I'm putting it here to remind myself to watch it later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJHCUmIC8M&lc=
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Eerieka
11/02/18 4:57:06 AM
#317:


Also putting these here for later.

https://www.umineko.us/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvvTbgdqj1M" data-time="

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MariaTaylor
11/02/18 5:00:47 AM
#318:


oh yeah I remember you posting somewhere that I should come check this topic out again. actually I do still read over it from time to time. I'm just too lazy to post very much lol
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Eerieka
11/02/18 5:13:12 AM
#319:


<3 Welcome back, friend. I thought I must have said something to make you mad and you were ignoring me lol.
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MariaTaylor
11/02/18 5:23:54 AM
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haha nope

I just have a bad sense of social obligation!
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Eerieka
11/02/18 5:29:47 AM
#321:


lmao, well I'm glad to know you're still here! And hey, if you ever wanna work on that game of yours again, I'm still around as well.
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MariaTaylor
11/02/18 5:32:41 AM
#322:


ehhhhh that's sadly one of my rare projects that I will actually probably have to abandon. well, I've been thinking for the past week or two actually about making a post in the discord server just so everyone knows for sure what is up. but at this point it's been on hiatus for over half a year so I think people kinda already know.

sadly, best case scenario, I may go back to it in like 5 years and finish up what I started.

but in the meantime I feel like I've already moved on to other ideas.
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Eerieka
11/02/18 5:35:17 AM
#323:


Fair enough. I mean, that's what I assumed had happened, but I just wanted to let you know that I would still help out if you had any intention of going back.
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11/02/18 5:38:29 AM
#324:


sounds good. I normally work on projects and stuff by myself but I thought we had good chemistry. if I was going to need someone to help me with things in the future you're definitely on the list of people I'd turn to!

but yeah I'm wrapping up my current writing project on the board right now and it really hit me that I've started and completed entire projects in the amount of time that the game has been on hiatus lol
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Eerieka
11/02/18 5:45:27 AM
#325:


Thanks! I don't often work on projects with people, but I do enjoy it and you were a pleasure to work with as well. Sometimes by the time I notice something going on on Board 8, it's already got enough participants that I feel like there's no room for me. If you ever want to do a writing project, let me know.

My last 'writing project' (if you can call it that) was actually a book readthrough that I posted on the Books and Literature board, and that took me just shy of a year to do (to be fair, the book was like 1200 pages long). I've been thinking of doing a writing project when the next Crusader Kings 2 expansion comes out which I'll probably post on here on Board 8 if there's enough interest. Although to be fair, it'll be me doing all the writing and other people just offering names.
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Popcorn_Fairy
11/02/18 2:49:33 PM
#326:


Eerieka posted...
Also putting these here for later.

https://www.umineko.us/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvvTbgdqj1M" data-time="


What what. English Umineko? Woah.

Not sure if I like the voice cast though.
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Eerieka
11/02/18 4:28:22 PM
#327:


Also, we just noticed in the youtube video, at the beginning when it says "The following cast etc etc...", if you take the letters in red, it spells "Beatrice rises again." Cool!
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Eerieka
11/03/18 2:59:57 AM
#328:


A: So there are a few people conspicuously missing here. Natsuhi and Kumasawa, specifically. I wonder what theyre up to.
K: I think the idea is these idiots are outside with the ladder and everyone else is standing in the hall outside the normal door waiting for them to unlock it from the inside.

Beatrices face gets more and more fucked up as the conversation goes on about her staying in Kinzos room
A: I like how shes getting creepier and creepier.

Rudolf calls for Kinzo by calling him oyaji
A: Is he calling him old man?
K: Yeah, thats how he do.

Shannon and Kanon were standing in such a way that for a second it looked like his hand was coming out of her boob. I told Arria what I sad
A: *snort* New power activated: Tit portal!
(Sayo would need to get real tits first)
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Eerieka
11/04/18 1:51:32 AM
#329:


Shannon is worried about how mad Kinzo will be. But Kyrie reminds her that Eva was kind enough to sign up to deal with his anger.
A: Methinks Kyrie has had enough of Evas shit as well.

Rudolf notes that the study looks like someone has been living in it
A: So theres a sad mental image. Natsuhi comes here every night. Sits at the desk. Gets up from the desk. Lays in the bed. Moves books around. All to keep up her own delusion.
A: How sad would if be if one day Krauss went to Natsuhis room wanting to get some but she was missing and was actually in his fathers bedroom?
K (internally: oh lawdy)

Nanjo calls Kinzo fickle and we discuss that we disagreed with that because fickle seems to imply bouncing back and forth between moods, but Kinzo is fairly focused. Hes intensely focused on Beatrice with moments of rage.
K: I guess it doesnt matter anyway since Nanjos just trying to hand-wave oh, Kinzos not here because reasons!

A: You know what this first twilight reminds me of? They killed the successor, the head servant you know, kinda like in those old cultures where they would kill the kings servants and bury them with him and then they killed the cousins who would all be potential heirs, except for Battler. Rudolf and Kyrie dont look good here!
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Mega Mana
11/04/18 8:47:34 PM
#330:


Spent last few hours browsing my steam library not playing anything. Finally relented and went to play Higurashi Episode 2 again.

Loads into the restaurant where Axe-crazy is telling me I wronged Mion, but I have zero idea how, and she's really really passive aggressive about my idiocy that I don't understand, and there will be crazy Furude hijinks chasing the men out... and then there will be the part where I quit every time when Mion or Shion blasts Shion or Mion and its the worst.
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MariaTaylor
11/04/18 9:10:32 PM
#331:


aw yeah higurashi
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Mega Mana
11/04/18 9:38:12 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
aw yeah higurashi


AND CHICKENING OUT AGAIN BECAUSE ITS TOO AWKWARD AND MEAAAAAN
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11/04/18 9:47:19 PM
#333:


would you endure all of that pain and misery if it meant you could return to those peaceful days in the club room again?
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11/04/18 11:20:14 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
would you endure all of that pain and misery if it meant you could return to those peaceful days in the club room again?


Peaceful club room days? *remembers the marker and the dress up and the cat ears*

Notes:
- Went back and restarted Ch.2 because I don't remember anything about it.
- Thanks to reading the flashbacks Keiichi had at the toy store (before my seven-time quitting point ;_;), reading the doll get scene was... enlightening at how completely subtle and masterful Ryukishi is. There's not a whiff of something done wrong initially, but after getting the 'between the lines' read later... yeah, I can definitely see, and got a chill as the cicadas perked up at that simple moment of Mion laughing.
- Also, immediately reminded of how Ryu07 just takes... ordinary, simple conversations and makes them into weapons. The casual doll gift? Not unlike a white horse that never came. Dismissal.
- Is there a version of seacats for Higurashi? I'd love to read some long and detailed synopses or opinions of each individual chapter in each episode. Just finished the 'Sympathy' game and I want to read reactions to that! It was so good realizing just how important the innocuous moments in Umineko were that I want to know how much more there was to Keiichi understanding his friends worse than Battler and dressing up as a maid in the end.
- Conspiratorial theory: The only reason they go to Angel Mort in the first place is because Keiichi came home in a cute maid outfit that made dad think of girls in cute maid outfits, and so that's how Keiichi meets Shion because Mion dressed him in a maid outfit (XL PREPPED) and planned this as revenge for not giving her girly self a doll after she helped him win his game and it went all according to keikaku! of death?
- "I want to believe that [his father's incoherent rambling in awkward situations] won't be genetic..." Oh, poor dumb Keiichi.
- Poor Shion. Getting all of Kei's evil pervy revenge.... o_o.... O_O.... I-Is this... why Shion acts the way she does when she meets Mion? It's not out of meanness, it's... the way she thinks Keiichi talks to her sister and she's lampooning him?!!?!?!?!?!
- ...Damn, Keiichi. You are flirting hard with Shion and you don't even know you're doing it.
- 'That was a long trip to the art room. He probably came up with a new artpiece when he was sitting on the can.' - Need Arria reactions for just these restaurant scenes. XD
- Filled customer card, calling her the new waitress... ohh Keiichi-Dad....
- Reading again now, I really like how they cut up the episode. There are just slice of life chunks with a good beginning, middle, and end, and Keiichi says a few things in narration and then there's a pause and the two black bars fade across the screen for episode end. And those last few lines? Pure and innocent and definitely not something to think about more at all and get to the nugget of what's really happened outside Keiichi's dumb perspective and won't cause groans or even shudders for what's to come because Keiichi is an ass...umer.
- 'It's rumored that Chie-sensei has devoted her life to curry.' I thought it was meat jelly.
- 'I'm also really good at cooking! Especially Chinese food!' "...Keiichi, boiling something and pouring it into a bowl doesn't count as cooking." - I didn't know Chinese and Irish had so much in common ^_^
- Keiichi's dealmaking with his two classmates... theme of switcheroos and behind-the-scenes dealmaking going on elsewheres?
- Keiichi's a cheat, they know he's a cheat, and are doing something to his stew while Rika uses her siren powers to occupy his attention. Pew pew.
-Yay, Keiichi spine chill! ...Okay, yay during happy game fun time.
- Mion is just so good and pushing the best/worst out of Keiichi... it's going to suck soon ;_;
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11/04/18 11:47:20 PM
#335:


yeah I love higurashi and it's a shame it doesn't get as much discussion and analysis as umineko because honestly... it's more of a story that has straightforward themes that can be easily discussed. a lot of the character work is laid out early on and pays off later. the stupid slice of life stuff they do, sitting around having fun and playing games, often relates to or mirrors events that happen later on. sometimes things that happen which seem normal end up being the trigger for extreme events that happen later. other times it's just narrative symmetry between how a game plays out and how real events will play out later. etc. etc.

there's so much there to pick apart in each episode and across the story as a whole.
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Eerieka
11/05/18 2:55:05 AM
#336:


I never read the Higurashi VN. Probably will one day, but that's years down the road since I have so many other VNs/games to play. But to this day, the anime is still my favorite anime, and yes, I know it apparently sucks compared to the VN. But man... I love its power of friendship message. I'm such a sap.

Mega Mana posted...
I'd love to read some long and detailed synopses or opinions of each individual chapter in each episode.


Other than Youtube Let's Plays, I haven't see any. No text-based synopses or Let's Plays anyway.

Mega Mana posted...
'That was a long trip to the art room. He probably came up with a new artpiece when he was sitting on the can.' - Need Arria reactions for just these restaurant scenes. XD


Lol. Was that a Mion/Shion quote? Sounds like something she would say. I'm sure Arria would love her.

~~~

A: This is a hilarious mental image. Hey Beatrice, wheres Father? Hes hiding under the bed Natsuhi looks down and Kinzo just waves like an excited kid.

Kinzo says he wouldnt put it past himself to take a midnight stroll in a mansion where a murder has occurred.
A: God I love the moments of humor in this game

And then Beatrice tells him to hide under the bed. JUST like Arria jokes about 2 minutes ago.
A: FUCK I hate it when Im THIS right.
A: This game is secretly a comedy. It just has to twist your brain to an extent you find it funny.

Erika claps her hands to get everyones attention
A: God shes such a bitch and I say that with adoration.

Natsuhi asks Eva is shes prepared to break off contact with Kinzo after she was so rude to trample around his room
Eva: Thats for Father to decide!
A: But the fact that youre afraid tells me shes not wrong!
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Popcorn_Fairy
11/05/18 2:59:36 AM
#337:


I'm very, very slowly reading the Higurashi VN. The anime was good enough for me honestly. Not like Umineko though. Watched the Umineko anime right after Higurashi. Thought it was dece at the time. Then Umineko released on Steam. Then I learned of how bad the anime was. Higurashi was a dece adaptation. Umineko was not. Like holy shit, what the hell went wrong there.

Eerieka posted...
A: God shes such a bitch and I say that with adoration.


She has no idea.
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Eerieka
11/05/18 3:04:55 AM
#338:


The Umineko anime was such a fucking disaster, but I had read the VN prior to watching the anime so there are some things I may not be able to accurately judge. For instance, I want to say the anime didn't develop the characters as well, but I might be talking out my ass since I already knew the characters.
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Popcorn_Fairy
11/05/18 3:13:19 AM
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Yeah, having watched the anime first, after just reading the opening of chapter one, the boat ride in, from the VN, I had already had a vastly different opinion on everyone. Everyone felt so much different from how they were portrayed in the anime.

The anime also just did a bad job overall on a lot of scenes. For example. One of my favorite scenes in the VN. The Halloween Party. Watching the anime, it glossed over it, didn't go into any detail, or even show anything really. It was kind of just touch on it, they dead, move on. No impression left on me. Now after reading the VN, what the fuck. That part made my goddamn jaw drop with how brutal it was in the VN. I was so confused because I didn't remember this being as big a deal. Went back and watched it again. Just sitting here like what the fuck. How did they fuck this up?
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Eerieka
11/05/18 3:19:13 AM
#340:


Hahaha, I don't remember that scene from the anime, but that's a good example since it seemed like a lot of things got glossed over. But yesss, it was an eye-opener for me, and I remember Arria was shocked by it too.
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Eerieka
11/05/18 7:56:51 PM
#341:


Battler calls Erika fickle
A: Theres that word again. Secretly, you are Kinzo!

Natsuhi tells Gohda and Nanjo to shut up, even though they were defending her
A: (imitating Natsuhi crying) Stop trying to be helpful!

Everyone discussed the exact phrasing of when Erika asked who is the last person to see Kinzo and Natsuhi replied with herself.
A: I like how its very apparent which camp everyone is going to, and I hope Erika calls them out on it.

Natsuhi scowls after Erika says she wants to make sure this is no third-rate mystery
A: Shes thinking Ill kill you all.

Beatrice mentions the court of hell and Arria was reminded of the joke about the engineer in hell and the how heaven has no lawyers. That only made me remember that we are VERY close to Dlanor oh man
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Mega Mana
11/05/18 8:52:57 PM
#342:


Eerieka posted...
Mega Mana posted...

'That was a long trip to the art room. He probably came up with a new artpiece when he was sitting on the can.' - Need Arria reactions for just these restaurant scenes. XD

Lol. Was that a Mion/Shion quote? Sounds like something she would say. I'm sure Arria would love her.


It was a Keiichi narration quote regarding his father's long trip to the restroom in the cosplay diner =P

Eerieka posted...
Beatrice mentions the court of hell and Arria was reminded of the joke about the engineer in hell and the how heaven has no lawyers. That only made me remember that we are VERY close to Dlanor oh man


Yesssssssss. Tick tick tick...
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Eerieka
11/07/18 2:59:04 AM
#343:


A: I like how they accuse Natsuhi of exactly what shes been doing. Like, she has balls of steel.

Gohda keeps opening his mouth when he really shouldnt be
A: Youre trying too hard, Gohda-puppy!

Dlanor Knox is summoned and we take a moment to read her profile, look at her sprite, and generally analyze her.

A: Her name is bugging me. Why do I know this name?
K: Hmm, do you know this character from this completely unrelated anime? (I showed her a picture of Ronald Knox from Kuroshitsuji)
A: Yes! Oh, he was a shinigami. Shit, what was his name? Ronald Knox?
*looks at Dlanors name*
A: Ooooh So whats the connection? Who was Ronald Knox?
K: Read his Wikipedia article! Well, not the whole thing, just enough to get an idea.
A: Priest, writer, detective author. Got it! No wonder he wormed his way into both those series So in Umineko, hes this girl?
K: Hes her father. I think if you click next on her profile it talks about that
A: I didnt even see that button there!
*she reads the rest of Dlanors profile*
A; Wow. That is fucked up. That is a fanfic I have not written. Ive thought about it, but Ive not written it! Whenever I write about an execution, its usually Arria doing the deed, not the characters own child! Damn, but now I want to write about that But it makes me wonder, what did Knox do to get executed?
K: Im not sure. Maybe he wrote a story that broke one of his own rules?
A; OH! Thats why her name was bugging me. The Knox rules. It was on the tip of my brain.
K: Ah, yeah, she represents the rules.

Then we go through the scene where Erika says Beatrice can be summarized in eight letters: <executed> and Beatrice says Oh, Im <cute> now.
A: Fuck, this game is writing all my fanfics! Im stealing this line hey, its just fanfic! No one cares if I steal a line or two or fifty out of Umineko!
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11/07/18 3:42:53 AM
#344:


Eerieka posted...
Oh, Im <cute> now.


lol
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11/07/18 3:49:14 AM
#345:


MariaTaylor posted...
Eerieka posted...
Oh, Im <cute> now.


lol


It's such a great line, and I love Erika smug face during it.
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11/07/18 11:24:20 PM
#346:


A: So why is her last word always capitalized? Or in katakana?
K: Im not sure. Ive mentioned before that Japanese use all-katakana for robotic characters. Maybe its supposed to show that shes all business so to speak.
A: I thought you were going somewhere else with robot
K: Well, her profile said she killed her own heart.
A: Are we going back to Wizard of Oz?

Chiester 00 says to prevent anyone from passing by physically or conceptually
A: *laughs* I love that phrasing

Dlanor is compared to a doll, so I bring up her robotness again. I also mention that shes voiced by the same lady who voiced Shinku.
K: Miyuki Sawashiro also holds the rare distinction of voicing both one of my waifus and a husbando
A: Oh? A husbando?
K: Yep, she was Kurapika in the Hunter x Hunter remake.
A: I remember him. Wow, she voiced a man? Hell of a range
K: Miyuki can go from squeaky girl like Dlanor to mature woman like Celty my waifu, to a girlish man like Kurapika. Shes amazing.
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Eerieka
11/08/18 8:47:06 PM
#347:


Beatrice comes up with a million ideas for how Kinzo escaped and with each theory, a Stake appears and flies into Dlanor.
A: I like how the stakes are all such children here
Dlanor: Is that all?
K: And thats what she thinks of them
Leviathan: aww, whens my turn!
Beatrice: hush, Ill use you when I think of another one
A: Dear God, this is fucked up and adorable at the same time.

A: Is this a Japanese thing? The whole father is gone, so Ill call this room Father instead.
K I dont think its a Japanese thing. I think its just (not sure what to call it)
A: Her trying to work her way around this bullshit?
K: Yeah.

Battler says that he cant stand Erika, the self-proclaimed intellectual rapist
A: Is that really what shes calling herself or is this some weird translation from Japanese?
K; I think its a legit translation.

Endless Nine starts playing as Battler reenacts Kinzo. Oh man awesome. And then Dread of the Grave. Hyyyyype
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11/10/18 3:42:06 AM
#348:


He jumped out the window! Man this scene is great
A: Im enjoying this!
K: Uh-huh!

Theres gold butterflies in front of the image of the window.
A: That is really cool imagery.

Dlanors argument with Battler in mid-air reminds Arria of a scene from the Dresden Files that involves her favorite character and she brings that up. Honestly, I had suspected long ago that Dlanor would remind her of that character, so I mention that here.
A: (sarcastically) Gee, what made you think? The book even mentioned that he would not shed a tear if he had to execute his own mother

Beatrice jumps too, and lands in Battlers arms. We get that gorgeous picture full of roses and sparkles. Like out of a shojo manga.
A: Yes! I was so hoping to get a scene like that!

Ronove says that the tale of Kinzo would take up as many grimoires as he has in his study, and the story of Battler is going to be just as long. Oh, and its currently being written
A: I wonder what goes through Ryukishis head when he writes things like that.
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11/11/18 5:20:29 AM
#349:


A: This is the most fucked up relationship in all of fiction. Its horrible and adorable. Its a a horrable. (trying to merge the two words)
K: *laugh* I dont think that worked the way you intended.
A: It did! I intended it to sound stupid. It got you to laugh, didnt it?
K: Sure did.

Rudolf: Battler, are you okay?
A: Yeah! Old bastard planted thick-ass moss down here!

Dlanor gets up and Battler almost pokes her with a final wedge, but stops and lets her go
A: Also, you know this goes along with my previous theory, right? About how this is like Dantes story. Now Battler is in Heaven and his opponent is a Heavenly character.
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11/12/18 4:15:54 AM
#350:


Day 34 (11/2/2018)
Short reading today

Dlanor appears in the garden and calls someone <Mrs> Beatrice
Arria almost lost her shit right there.
Dlanor: Or should I say <Mrs> Virgilia
A: Okay, 1. thats better. 2. She was married? Is that going to be brought up?
K: She had a grandson in Ep 4, remember? One of the dozens of random people Ange met was one of her grandsons.
A: Oh, that's right. I tried to blot that from my memory.

Virgilia and Dlanor talk.
A: I know this is literally what it is, but its almost like two peoples OCs talking to one another. Like, you have this poor overworked maid and shes actually a *very fancy lady* (noble voice)

They mention tea again
A: I think my brain just randomly came up with Teapot Beatrice theory on its own! They keep bringing it up! I know repetition does not equal relevance, but damn it game! Also I picture Battler like this (motioning forcing something down Beatrice's throat). Like trying to get the dog to take a pill.
A line or two later they actually mention that Beatrice takes a sip occasionally
A: Okay, it would appear that Ryukishi saw this predicament and wrote accordingly!
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