Board 8 > About to watch Infinity War

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Ive done a lot this week to get myself prepped for this, but I dont think my body is ready! Here by myself because the people i want to see it with have mostly seen it by now
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barreldragon88 posted...

Ive done a lot this week to get myself prepped for this, but I dont think my body is ready! Here by myself because the people i want to see it with have mostly seen it by now

Good news! They're there with you!

Bad news! They're all in Deadpool.
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Mega Mana posted...

barreldragon88 posted...

Ive done a lot this week to get myself prepped for this, but I dont think my body is ready! Here by myself because the people i want to see it with have mostly seen it by now

Good news! They're there with you!

Bad news! They're all in Deadpool.

Lol

Maybe i came in with high expectations, but I didnt think this was amazing. Not feeling so hot about a theater rewatch
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Thoughts?
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Thoughts dump:

Loki going out like that is so dumb. I had heard the deaths in this film are due to the contract for that character ending, so I can understand the death being business-driven, but it's very uncharacteristic of Loki to try to kill Thanos in such a manner

I didn't expect Gamora to die here since I read GotG3 is going to focus on her a lot, but she'll probably come back to life by way of Time stone like the rest of the "dead"

Thor learning to control his powers without a hammer was one of the main plot points in Ragnarok, yet here he is saying he needs another hammer to beat Thanos. Kind of silly backtracking here

OMG I want to punch Quill for ruining the plan to remove the gauntlet from Thanos. But since Dr. Strange has seen all future possibilities and knows which is the one that leads them to victory, I believe he saw that Thanos needs to get all six stones in this scenario. I don't know how they're going to beat him, but I'm definitely hyped for part 2

Vision got killed... twice. Poor guy, he was just one big target in this movie. Would he have survived if the stone was successfully removed as intended?

It's definitely curious the original Avengers were the ones kept alive. Hopefully part 2 explains the why

I was waiting for Ant-Man to show up the whole time because I figured everyone except for Hawkeye was going to make an appearance, but I know he's being saved for when the focus shifts to Earth

Good movie, may rewatch with my friend who hasn't seen it yet. Iron Man is awesome. Scarlet Witch is awesome. Dr. Strange is awesome, and I'm very happy they get ample screentime here
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barreldragon88 posted...

Thor learning to control his powers without a hammer was one of the main plot points in Ragnarok, yet here he is saying he needs another hammer to beat Thanos. Kind of silly backtracking here

But having a weapon is better than not having a weapon.

And it's more about Thanos than Thor. Thanos w/ gauntlet is clearly too strong but a weapon forged at Nidavelir might do the trick.
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barreldragon88 posted...

It's definitely curious the original Avengers were the ones kept alive. Hopefully part 2 explains the why

It's 100% to give the original crew a last hurrah before a bunch retire

But in-universe it's completely random
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Why would you go by yourself.
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Corrik posted...

Why would you go by yourself.

Because you inspired me to
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Because this is a Marvel topic, "I think my leg's broken" > "I don't feel too good"
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RyoCaliente posted...

Because this is a Marvel topic, "I think my leg's broken" > "I don't feel too good"

;_;
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Going to movies by myself was something i used to be embarrassed to do, but moving to a new city with only a few friends meh who cares. So many people stay inside all day anyways now so its kinda hard to get people to do anything

Infinity War was solid, but the criticisms that I have are:

1) Hulk/Banner was pretty dumb, also had some really cheesy lines. They also kinda turned banner into the butt of every joke with very little else.

2) Cap/Widow/Falcon/Panther/Winter Soldier I thought coulda used a bit more time on screen that wasn't just fighting a horde of monsters

3) Thor needing a hammer after spending Ragnarok learning without was kinda poor i agree

Not the best, but a pretty solid MCU film
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Thor didn't need Stormbreaker for his powers or anything, it's just specifically designed to kill Thanos and has nothing to do with his powers like Mjolnir did so I don't really see it as a step back.
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Yeah, Thor doesn't need a weapon for his own powers. The issue is that his own powers aren't good enough to defeat Thanos, so he specifically sought out a weapon that could do so.
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barreldragon88 posted...

Ive done a lot this week to get myself prepped for this, but I dont think my body is ready! Here by myself because the people i want to see it with have mostly seen it by now

I have friends that have seen it two times, and some even three times

I will never understand it
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Metal_DK posted...

1) Hulk/Banner was pretty dumb, also had some really cheesy lines. They also kinda turned banner into the butt of every joke with very little else.

I still don't understand how he never is able to control his power fully. Is this exactly the same as the comics?

Metal_DK posted...

2) Cap/Widow/Falcon/Panther/Winter Soldier I thought coulda used a bit more time on screen that wasn't just fighting a horde of monsters

I agree. I thought BP had no showing in this film, and I don't see him having much of a showing in the sequel
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barreldragon88 posted...

Is this exactly the same as the comics?

Sometimes. It's two personalities vying for control of the one body.
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Some writers write Hulk as two separate personalities that dislike eachother vying for control of one body like Scarlet said, some writers have Hulk as a really dumbed down version of Banner. Hulk becoming more articulate in the first version is the Hulk personality learning over time like a child, while the latter is just Banner becoming more and more in control of himself in that form.

I'm a much bigger fan of the first version so I'm super happy that's what they are doing here.
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Yea, Hulk side is basically a child

but now that he was in control for a few years in a row, he speaks in sentences like in Ragnarok

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Damn, the other topic purged ;(

Two questions still looming over my head:

Why did Heimdall only send Hulk to Earth? We know why as the movie progresses, but at that moment, it doesn't make sense he would leave Thor on the ship to "die". Probably need to just attribute this to "movie logic", which I don't like

What is the difference between Dr. Strange's power to manipulate space and the Space stone? He is able to conjure mystical energies to open portals to different parts of the world, so how is this any different from what the Space stone does?
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Thor's hammer is basically Jarnbjorn from the comics, which is the axe designed specifically to kill gods. They just called it "Stormbreaker" because it's cool and I guess because they tried twice to fit Beta Ray Bill into Thor movies and couldn't find space so they figured they would throw his hammer a bone at least.

I think they did a bad job explaining how powerful that hammer/axe is, they put it on full display in the comics when it's first introduced by showing a young Thor killing a Celestial.
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ZenOfThunder posted...

They just called it "Stormbreaker" because it's cool and I guess because they tried twice to fit Beta Ray Bill into Thor movies and couldn't find space so they figured they would throw his hammer a bone at least.

also because it sounds better than "jarnbjorn."
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barreldragon88 posted...

What is the difference between Dr. Strange's power to manipulate space and the Space stone? He is able to conjure mystical energies to open portals to different parts of the world, so how is this any different from what the Space stone does?

it probably allows the user to do it on a universal scale
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I don't think we've seen Strange open a portal to another planet. Besides, it not like there's a rule saying an infinity stone is the only thing capable of doing what it does - The Power Stone is an obvious example, force is a pretty normal concept. But other forms of telepathic abilities have been shown in the MCU, it's not just the Mind Stone capable of it. I'm sure the Reality Stone also isn't the thing capable of illusions and I'm sure it's not the only thing capable of transforming one object into another.

As for Heimdall, that was clearly him using his last bit of power. Pretty odd thing to question. You might wonder why he didn't use it on his beloved Thor, but the Hulk fought for them and lost even though he didn't really belong there. It makes sense why he used it on him, and it definitely makes sense why he didn't use it on more people.
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Stormbreaker isn't there to help him channel lightning powers yeah.

It's there to give him an anti-Thanos weapon beyond using the lightning he used in Ragnarok
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Yeah, i think the difference is that Mjolnr was a weapon designed for Thor to help focus his powers. We never saw it happen in the MCU, but ostensibly the hammer would have also granted the powers of Thor to someone else, were they worthy and tried to wield it.

Stormbreaker is a very powerful weapon that requires someone with powers on the level of Thor to even wield. If someone without the powers of Thor or powers equal to them tried to wield Stormbreaker, it wouldn't have granted them power, it would have destroyed them.

It does kind of feel odd for him to seek a new weapon right after dealing with losing his old one, but it's an interesting distinction in purpose. I'm curious to see what might happen in the future. Thanos almost certainly would not have been able to wield Mjolnr, but I wonder if he could wield Stormbreaker? It sounds like he could, but almost noone else we've seen could.
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Didn't the Stormbreaker also have some sort of Bifrost properties so he could get to earth? I seem to remember that being mentioned.
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Yeah, Heimdall using the last of his power on Hulk makes sense because Heimdall's honorable and all that, and sending the guy that doesn't belong there yet still fought for them home is the honorable thing to do, instead of just "Omg, run, Thor!" Also Thor probably would have been pissed if he got saved instead.
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skullbone posted...

Didn't the Stormbreaker also have some sort of Bifrost properties so he could get to earth? I seem to remember that being mentioned.

Yeah. Honestly, that was kind of cheap movie logic just so Thor could show up for the climax after completing the weapon. They are just throwing bifrosts out whenever here. But whatevs it was awesome.
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Stormbreaker was there to give Thor something to do so other characters could look like they mattered for a minute before Thor came in to steal all of the kayfabe main event star power.
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Best superheroes movie ever by far. Not without its flaws (*cough*forcedhumor*cough*), but the way the Russo brothers assembled everything together just blew my mind. Giving the proper amount of continuity to that beast was not an easy task, and I was astonished by how well that was done.

My personal favorite moments were Doctor Strange's fighting sequences and maybe Thor appearing in Wakanda to kick butt with the Stormbreaker.
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skullbone posted...

Didn't the Stormbreaker also have some sort of Bifrost properties so he could get to earth? I seem to remember that being mentioned.

It was. I was confused a little bit the first time but the second time I caught Eitri saying "in theory it could even summon the Bifrost".
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barreldragon88 posted...

What is the difference between Dr. Strange's power to manipulate space and the Space stone? He is able to conjure mystical energies to open portals to different parts of the world, so how is this any different from what the Space stone does?

I'm guessing just distance. Thanos was zipping across galaxies with the space stone. Strange has never gone anything like that far.
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