Board 8 > Watching Hunter X Hunter for the first time. Holy crap episode 5.

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INCEPTlON
05/20/18 11:09:26 PM
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The show now has me hooked.

The newer version by the way.
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swordz9
05/20/18 11:12:50 PM
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Its a great show and gets even better from there
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redrocket
05/20/18 11:18:10 PM
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There's multiple versions?
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KommunistKoala
05/20/18 11:19:24 PM
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an adaptation was done in 1999 and then another was done in 2011
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pjbasis
05/20/18 11:39:51 PM
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If episode 5 hooked you you're in for a wild ride
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Meow1000
05/21/18 12:20:02 AM
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The first half of the show is much, much better than the second half.

It never hits the point of unwatchable or anything though.

Though everything to do with Alluka is absolutely cringeworthy and easily the worst thing in the show. Not sure what they were thinking with that character concept.
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pyresword
05/21/18 12:22:42 AM
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There's a lot of differing opinions on this subject, but if you ask me the second half of the show is nearly the only reason it's even worth watching at all.
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pyresword
05/21/18 12:24:40 AM
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Not that there's no good parts in the first half either, but they're spread out enough that the overall picture isn't that great to me until you start factoring in the second half of the show.
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Meow1000
05/21/18 12:28:29 AM
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pyresword posted...
Not that there's no good parts in the first half either, but they're spread out enough that the overall picture isn't that great to me until you start factoring in the second half of the show.


The overall picture is fairly nonsensical for almost the entire series in fairness.

They really never have much of a direction for long
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pjbasis
05/21/18 12:33:00 AM
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There's definitely a direction in the form of character development.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 12:37:58 AM
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Meow1000 posted...
The first half of the show is much, much better than the second half.


I don't exaggerate when I say that I've literally never seen this opinion.

Though it falters a bit in the last arc proceeding it, the Chimera Ant arc is widely considered one of if not the best arc in the shounen genre.
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DeepsPraw
05/21/18 1:05:05 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Though it falters a bit in the last arc proceeding it, the Chimera Ant arc is widely considered one of if not the best arc in the shounen genre.


eh, I don't think it lived up to the hype.
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pjbasis
05/21/18 1:10:25 AM
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I've seen plenty of people not like it.

I don't agree, I think it and the arc after are genius, but pretty much every arc is divisive. Maybe except yorknew but I heard it once.
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DeepsPraw
05/21/18 1:16:05 AM
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Pre-Meruem, Chimera Ants is just bad, and that kind of keeps it from "best ever" territory
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/18 1:23:54 AM
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I prefer the pre-Meruem half of the arc. Has this incredible horror atmosphere to it that I've never seen in a shounen anime before.
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Meow1000
05/21/18 1:27:21 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I prefer the pre-Meruem half of the arc. Has this incredible horror atmosphere to it that I've never seen in a shounen anime before.


^

The further along it went, the further off the rails it went. By the end I was just glad it was over.
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/18 1:29:07 AM
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I mean, I still loved the second half.
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RoseChevalier
05/21/18 2:00:22 AM
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wow someone is watching something I love from the beginning! Better hurry and get into a discussion he can't read in his own topic!!

enjoy INCEPTION. It's one of my favorite anime, a true 10/10.
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CoolCly
05/21/18 2:11:28 AM
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I think Yorkshin SUCKS
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pjbasis
05/21/18 2:30:36 AM
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KanzarisKelshen
05/21/18 3:06:13 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Meow1000 posted...
The first half of the show is much, much better than the second half.


I don't exaggerate when I say that I've literally never seen this opinion.

Though it falters a bit in the last arc proceeding it, the Chimera Ant arc is widely considered one of if not the best arc in the shounen genre.


It's really really bad

HxH is kind of a huge disappointment because it has an amazingly unlikable main character and an indecisive tone and style. It ends up being best when it commits to being a standard shonen because it doesn't have the skills to pull off something more complicated, sadly.
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Xiahou Shake
05/21/18 4:01:14 AM
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I'm between jobs so I've ended up with oodles of down time on my hands while I go through some lengthy application processes... is the old or new anime considered a better adaptation? And would I be correct in assuming the manga is better for a first timer than either?
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 8:26:11 AM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
I'm between jobs so I've ended up with oodles of down time on my hands while I go through some lengthy application processes... is the old or new anime considered a better adaptation? And would I be correct in assuming the manga is better for a first timer than either?


Newer anime, and the anime is better.
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KanzarisKelshen
05/21/18 11:19:33 AM
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The newer anime is indeed better, but I would caution against going for it regardless. HxH has...issues sticking the landing. Like serious issues. It also has a very unlikable protagonist, so if either of these things are dealbreakers for you I'd watch something else.
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/18 11:31:45 AM
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You're practically the only person who feels that way.

Anyway, the newer anime's definitely the better one. The manga has a lot of art issues that the anime kinda fixes as well, so it has disadvantages compared to the anime.
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swordz9
05/21/18 11:35:38 AM
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How in the world can anyone think Gon is unlikable?
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INCEPTlON
05/21/18 11:54:07 AM
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At this point all I need to know is this,

Do we find out more about his dad?
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pjbasis
05/21/18 12:19:53 PM
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 12:36:43 PM
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Honestly really shocked we've got HxH naysayers. Never happened before! Not saying you don't have a right or anything, just haven't ever seen anybody talk bad about it that's actually seen it before, lol.

And to clarify, the newer anime over the older one....it's a total invalidation. There's nothing to go back to the old one for, unless you REALLY wish Hisoka still had blue hair like me.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 12:37:00 PM
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swordz9 posted...
How in the world can anyone think Gon is unlikable?


Beats me!
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Meow1000
05/21/18 12:37:39 PM
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I don't find Gon unlikeable, but I don't find him fantastic either. There's no major character in the show I have any strong dislike of.

I would agree though that the show is bad at "Sticking the landing" in multiple occasions.
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Meow1000
05/21/18 12:41:25 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Honestly really shocked we've got HxH naysayers. Never happened before! Not saying you don't have a right or anything, just haven't ever seen anybody talk bad about it that's actually seen it before, lol.

And to clarify, the newer anine over the older one....it's a total invalidation. There's nothing to go back to the old one for, unless you REALLY wish Hisoka still had blue hair like me.


I've never watched the older one. No basis of comparison there for me anyway.

The show is a still a pretty solid 7/10. Nothing spectacular but nothing too bad for the most part.

Part of the problem with a final rating is one of the last side-stories is beyond awful and I have no idea who came up with the idea or why they thought it'd be good.
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Sorozone
05/21/18 12:42:08 PM
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Yeah I'm indifferent to Gon, but he is in no way unlikable.
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KamikazePotato
05/21/18 12:47:01 PM
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Gon has maybe the worst design for a main character I've ever seen. His face looks so damn weird.

I tried to get into HxH twice and didn't like it very much. 'Inconsistent' is a good way to describe the tone, and none of the characters were particularly interesting.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 12:51:54 PM
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Other than the last arc, every arc is better than the previous, with the largest chunk of the latter half be GOAT.

A bit of a slower start, for sure.
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pjbasis
05/21/18 12:56:32 PM
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I think the old anime covered yorknew better. It's been a long ass time since I've seen it though, but the darker palette just made it vibe better. Plus preferable op/Eds mostly
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ClyTheCool
05/21/18 1:18:34 PM
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I love Gon. The best arcs imo are the ones that really focus on his wide eyed adventerous and optimistic attitude, which are the hunters exam and Greed Island
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Meow1000
05/21/18 2:13:33 PM
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Greed Island was kind of weak but acceptable.

Not as bad as some of the crap that followed it though.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 2:16:58 PM
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As much as I love HxH, I consider the whole first half to just be enjoyable build up to Chimera Ant.

The whole new series was basically an excuse to finally animate it in the first place.
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Meow1000
05/21/18 2:17:52 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Other than the last arc, every arc is better than the previous, with the largest chunk of the latter half be GOAT.

A bit of a slower start, for sure.


See I flat out disagree. That was the only arc where I was glad that it was over.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 2:19:37 PM
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Different strokes!

The only actual low point for HxH for me is the extensive training in York New.
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colliding
05/21/18 2:33:55 PM
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I hated greed island

everything else was good to great
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 2:40:41 PM
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Meow1000
05/21/18 2:52:44 PM
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CA had several things in the latter half especially that I dlsliked.

They humanized them way too much, to the point of ruining their intrigue. A little was fine, but at the end of it it's virtually irrelevant what they are, they were just another group powerful humanoids to take down. The more they added, the more it took away from their concept. Little of it was sympathetic, either, so it was a rabbit hole that only hurt the product.

In that vein, eventually they bring up there's several that remember everything about their past, yet none of them seriously do anything about it, except at the very end, long after they had already established they had enough free will to do something much sooner.. Kecleon only turns because his father was murdered by Meruem, so he hardly counts. Also in that vein, the intensity to which Meruem's personality shifts through a short period of time is completely unnatural and designed only to give him a sympathetic angle that I never really felt worked.

Several parts of the arc are dragged out too long, such as when Meruem can't remember Komugi's name. We didn't need 3 1/2 episodes that were almost the same thing rescripted on itself. That particular phase was an exercise in patience, and probably when I got into the "End this already damnit" mindset.

Possibly the worst part is the conclusion. You basically made the enemy into a bunch of overpowered demigods that weren't "Chimera Ants" anymore. It didn't matter what they were at that point and it didn't matter how they got there. The initial premise of the arc feels like it's almost completely lost by the end of it.

Worse, the only way they end up being dealt with it by... Literally bombing and poisoning their king, thus also poisoning their royal guard too. Not only is this a total cop-out that exists only for the obvious message of "mankind is the true monster", there's absolutely no reason whatsoever that such a measure, being that effective, would not have been taken much more quickly. If the Chimera Ants were that easy to take out, they should've been dealt with way before the King ever came into existence in the first place, and people would not have had to needlessly die.


That's just what comes to mind in a blink.
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pjbasis
05/21/18 2:54:52 PM
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I guess some people just want every villain to be freeza.

Otherwise it's too obvious you're going for something else!
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 2:56:15 PM
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It sounds like a lot of your complaints are the reason the arc is so beloved.

As such I think it just fundamentally wasn't for you!

I'd go more point by point but I'm sneaking off to a corner at work to even type this up
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/18 2:57:29 PM
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@Meow1000

why are you talking about stuff like that in this topic

what is wrong with you

go somewhere else if you want to complain about the show

make a new topic
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CoolCly
05/21/18 2:57:57 PM
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it's funny seeing someone complain about the chimera ant arc pacing in # of episodes

if you saw the squiggly finger paintings many of us had to interpret the arc from....
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Meow1000
05/21/18 2:58:13 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I guess some people just want every villain to be freeza.

Otherwise it's too obvious you're going for something else!


Kenshin's a good example of a series where many villains have redeemable qualities or aren't terrible people and I don't have any problems there.

The problem here is they went way too far with it, to the point where they sacrificed the basis of the arc to begin with.
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CoolCly
05/21/18 2:58:36 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I guess some people just want every villain to be freeza.


I guess Perfect Cell wasn't good enough
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