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Tom Bombadil
06/28/18 3:48:52 PM
#1:


We're making a giant mod for TEW 2016 (....maybe 2019?), crossing over tons of both real-world wrestlers and fictional characters. It's been a few years in the making, but after I decided to focus super hard on this, the end line is in sight! (...in early 2019, but believe it or not that's an improvement >_>). We can always use more help for fandoms we don't follow, or pics and bios, or...just talk to us we're lonely.

UK ("classic gaming"), Europe (internet and comics), Australia ("modern gaming"), and Japan (anime, manga, and VNs) are done except for some touching up. Mexico (books, movies, and misc. pop culture) should be similarly done by the end of July. Then US (classic wrestling), and finally Canada (modern wrestling and cartoons). Detailed schedule:

28: LotR > Gothmog
29: > Smaug
30: Redetail
1: Harry Potter SCP
2: > Ginny
3: > Moody
4: > Crabbe
5: > Delphi
6: > Jadis
7: Redetail
8-10: Redwall
11-12: Survivor
13-14: Big Brother
15-20: ASoIaF
Late Jul: FA

Aug-Sep: US
Oct-Nov: CAN
Dec: Helper Turns (Tom's a musician in December!)
2019 Q1: Cosmetics/Playtesting
Q2: Finetuning
Q3: FWA DRAFT?!?!?!?!

Or if you prefer the old system of progress:
Planning/statting: 98%
Data entry: 70%
Detail work: 50%
Cosmetics: 1%
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IhatethisCPU
06/28/18 9:41:53 PM
#2:


https://rave.dj/A7YZ67dNlccxSA

so I made this and I don't know why (also tag)
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X_Dante_X
06/28/18 9:42:47 PM
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tag
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eaedwards6400
06/29/18 4:35:39 PM
#4:


Actual factual
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Tom Bombadil
06/30/18 4:19:03 PM
#5:


let's go ahead and

#bump#
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Tom Bombadil
07/01/18 10:10:28 AM
#6:


Ran a sim. Nothing major to report but I'm enjoying going through the top matches for each promotion so let's post that sure.

In Importance order:
FFWD: Batman d. Peach
GCB: Egbert/Cloud/Mario d. Draven/Iron Man/Joker
Shonen: Killer B d. Quilge Opie
SFWW: Cammy d. Zangief
SSB: Yoshi/Pikachu no contest Wario/Tabuu
Comics: Hal Jordan d. Sean McFly
RotJ: Highlander/Luffy d. Vader/Legolas
TOS: Kirk/Spock d. Khan/Goku by DQ (MotY)
DB:WT: Yoshikage Kira d. Orochimaru
STRIFE: Green Goblin d. Aquaman

SSW: Sonic/Tails double DQ Eggman/Metal Sonic
LotR: Sauron d. Gandalf
OHKIK: Motoko d. Matoi
SHSL:PW: Smoker d. Vash
KoF: Shang Tsung d. Ryuji Yamazaki
WoT: Rand d. Moiraine
Action: Nyarlathotep d. Ender, Dux, Mat
YYH: Kurama d. Yuri Lowell
SGC: Ender/Daniel/Carter d. Anubis/Achilles/Vala by DQ
HPL: Ender d. Rand

FMA: Madara Uchiha d. Might Guy
PBL: Ryu H d. Pikachu
RuroKen: Lordgenome d. Baby 5
JJBA: Crocodile d. Iskandar
SoulCal: Kilik d. Nightmare
H2HWF (AI fed): El Leon d. Rocky
FE:WA: Tharja d. Doll Master
DGMN: Protoman d. Rowen J. Ilbert
Touhou: Marisa d. Sakuya
Umineko: Beato d. Battler

PAU: Minato/Demitri/Aigis d. Rise/Yu/Akira
GWE: Trunks d. Kenshin
KH: Mateus/Wolverine/Garrosh d. Maleficent/Old Xehanort/Olivier
WVBA: Mr. Dream d. Master Hand
GWM: Blavatsky d. Nero
RPGAW: Asbel/Lloyd/Dream d. Luca/Lady/Ziggy
UCA: Boko d. XIII
V:GM: Miku d. Elizabeth Bartory
F/GO: EMIYA d. Cu
TEW: Sans d. XIII

Undertale: Sans d. Asgore
SMRPG: Mallow d. Ryu H.
PC:WS: Arsene d. Sunny
GF: Master Asia d. Heero
GG: eddv d. Papyrus
FFT: Amarant d. Zack
Nep: Edy d. Marisa
GGX: Robert Garcia d. Liu Bei
PW: Phoenix d. Edgeworth
Sengoku: Oda d. Maeda

Disgaea: Laharl d. Mid-Boss
PS: Mobster Kingpin d. Jack Bruce
VHC: Edy d. Alicia
LoGH: Reinhart d. Muller
TiR: Georg Weissman d. Schera
DW: Lu Bu d. Xiahou Dun
SR: Max d. Anri
MWA: Daisy d. Koopa
DTNW: Xiahou Dun d. Lu Bu
WHW: Zeus d. Hanzo

Closed:
HW: Farmer Jack d. Hakumen
MK: Liu Bei d. Robert Garcia
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IhatethisCPU
07/01/18 11:33:40 AM
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GCB: Egbert/Cloud/Mario d. Draven/Iron Man/Joker
RotJ: Highlander/Luffy d. Vader/Legolas (....These things are why crossovers *exist*)

TOS: Kirk/Spock d. Khan/Goku by DQ (MotY) (DAMMIT KAKAROT)

STRIFE: Green Goblin d. Aquaman (...*Wow* Homestuck went downhill after it ended)

Action: Nyarlathotep d. Ender, Dux, Mat (...I would actually want to see this movie)

JJBA: Crocodile d. Iskandar (...JJBA has the largest single saga roster on my page, *still* brings in two other workers from the other feds for their moty)

FFT: Amarant d. Zack (....This offends me on a personal level)

GGX: Robert Garcia d. Liu Bei
Closed:
MK: Liu Bei d. Robert Garcia (....*Hmmmmmmmmmm, I WONDER WHY MK WENT OUT OF BUSINESS* I know there're likely other actual reasons but I like blaming pushing Liu Bei.)
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eaedwards6400
07/01/18 2:19:55 PM
#8:


UCA's Boko d. XIII is rather funny.

Max d. Anti. Oh no!

Phoenix d. Edgeworth is pretty great.
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Tom Bombadil
07/01/18 9:14:59 PM
#9:


I think there's a BIT less cross-pollination than these would imply- I think it mostly happens at the top level of a fed for some reason, where the midcard stays relatively stable
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ff6man
07/02/18 9:02:07 PM
#10:


My wife loves RPG's but she sucks at anything that requires quick reflexes and fast decisions.

Generally slower paced games are what a non-gamer will enjoy.
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Tom Bombadil
07/02/18 10:05:11 PM
#11:


same tho

but that's not an account I expected to be a bot
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IhatethisCPU
07/02/18 10:38:59 PM
#12:


...That is... actually kinda disheartening, somehow. ._.'

https://i.redd.it/olsnr1pb9l711.png

also one of maybe three Stheno things I found

....and you grailed mozart? Ya might actually be the first person I've ever seen with a grailed Mozart, Tahm. ^_^
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Tom Bombadil
07/03/18 12:15:39 AM
#13:


That is...kinda great actually!

I am kinda tempted to be to Amadeus what Lopen is to Kojirou but I don't like him THAT much. Still, he was my first non-Stheno to hit level cap, so maybe I'll throw another one at him later! I'm casual enough that I have plenty of grails to go around >_>
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Tom Bombadil
07/03/18 2:29:11 PM
#14:


BONUS DAY in here instead of the old topic because I whipped up a roster for Game of Turnbuckles (or ASoIaF if anybody has a good backronym for it) and am requesting sanity check/spellcheck/ages for it sometime in the next weekish please

I'm unreasonably proud of my guest choices
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IhatethisCPU
07/03/18 2:43:22 PM
#15:


Diiiid the spellchecking, annnnnnd I can't fault your guest choices, especially considering some of *my* choices but o----o
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Tom Bombadil
07/03/18 3:01:30 PM
#16:


I really wanted to steal Dario Cueto but figured I should let him be in LU

also thanks :D
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Tom Bombadil
07/03/18 3:49:52 PM
#17:


I guess we could use the lull before the other topic 500's to discuss big picture/FWA stuff?

-I want to post this to the GDS forum at some point- they're not the target demo, but the mod scene (including our inspirations) is kinda dry and they might appreciate this. Any objections? Should we do it now so we can take their feedback into account, or later at some point closer to completion?
-Do we like the system from last time of giving people who are going to PLAY bigger feds than people who are just gonna DRAFT and let the AI run a fed? Heck, what is the likely interest level even these days? (I think Fall 2019 is a reasonable guess on start time)
-Should the mystery boxes come back, and do you have any thoughts on how you'd want them to work?
-Early on I had an idea but I'm not sure if I still like it: having "EX" versions of certain FWA-meme wrestlers debut a year or more into the future. (IE an invincible Juvy, or a Sheamus with crazy buffs but no Safety) In my mind they have like an apocalyptic/almost lovecrafty sinister vibe to them, and we could even give them their own (future) companies.
-In the draft version of the mod I am probably going to throw in some AI feds just to give the fifteen million people somewhere to work if they don't get drafted. Any thoughts on theme or number or size? Pretty sure we "have" to have a TimJab fed and Bloody Mountain Fighting.
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IhatethisCPU
07/03/18 4:21:59 PM
#18:


Honestly, I'd say now, yeh. I *imagine* they're gonna say to lower stats across the board, but...

...Probably yeeeahhh, and I... honestly don't know, especially with B8's current activity level.

*Yes.*

...I'd say 3 years, possibly. Make the Lovecraft fed, (assuming it's still running) a countdown schedule until their entries into the database...?

And none as of yet, will prolly have a better idea when the draft's happening. ^_^'
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Lopen
07/03/18 4:28:23 PM
#19:


I wouldn't put the mod up until it's at least in a playable state and every element has reached some base amount of quality control-- I'm thinking mostly cosmetics and game balance. Putting an underdeveloped mod up will kill hype for it I think.
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eaedwards6400
07/03/18 4:34:58 PM
#20:


- I'm fine with sharing.
- I think last time was fine but give players the option. And maybe we should see what the interest level is.
- I like mystery boxes
- I'm not really sure I get it.
-yeah this makes the most sense to me otherwise there are just too many free agents
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Tom Bombadil
07/03/18 6:22:34 PM
#21:


Hm, split on when to post it. Maybe a limited release, like "this mod is coming out soon and we want a few playtesters but for the rest of you here's some hype"? Probably wait a bit longer to post, in that case?
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IhatethisCPU
07/03/18 6:33:52 PM
#22:


That might be a good idea, yeah. I'd suggest possibly floating if they can help pictures to help Lopen out and save him some time down the line, but...
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Lopen
07/03/18 8:28:59 PM
#23:


They are already floating me pictures btw. I have been liberally stealing pics for ones that exist in other mods that I happen to have. (Something to consider if we release the pic pack but I believe 9000verse guy openly does not care)
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Tom Bombadil
07/04/18 12:24:54 PM
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now see THAT is a good 500th post
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Gmun
07/05/18 12:02:20 PM
#25:


pjbasis posted...
Really?

Playing it safe with the franchise, but I guess I can't complain that we're getting more Metroid.

I'm not sure I'd call a Metroid 2 remake safe by any means at all
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Tom Bombadil
07/05/18 6:32:29 PM
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8 up, 8 down
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eaedwards6400
07/06/18 2:44:35 PM
#27:


Go team
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Tom Bombadil
07/06/18 4:24:52 PM
#28:


6 up, 6 down
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07/07/18 4:01:59 PM
#29:


Tag to find some new multiplayer games.

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IhatethisCPU
07/07/18 4:14:54 PM
#30:


...Wish I knew why people that have had nothing to do with this for the past several years are tagging this *now*. o-o'
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 4:29:20 PM
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because I tagged it for bot bumps!
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IhatethisCPU
07/07/18 4:37:26 PM
#32:


...that's a thing? :o
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 4:39:58 PM
#33:


yep yep GMUN did some stuff and now it's a lot easier to avoid the purge :D

(see post 5)
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 5:37:25 PM
#34:


Random mildly interesting quirk of the process for Harry Potter:
I'm having Cho Chang Split Up with Harry, but she's dating Cedric Diggory, who died before they got together. <_>

both of those seem reasonable even though they did not overlap
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 8:51:30 PM
#35:


Took a looooot longer than I was hoping, but HP is DONE

8: Redwall wrestlers
9: Redwall staff
10: Redwall Comp/Plan
11-12: Survivor
13-14: Big Brother
15-20: ASoIaF
Late Jul: FA
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IhatethisCPU
07/07/18 8:58:30 PM
#36:


One, that is actually kinda cool, although I have no idea how GMUN programmed that on Gamefaqs... o-o

Two... yeaaah, yeaaaaaah. ^_^'

And three... ...I'm going to be completely honest, I'm looking at the 8th-10th and am somehow amazed that's a thing that's happening, even though I'm the one that statted and proposed the idea ^_^'
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 9:39:25 PM
#37:


Weird wrestling mega-crossovers go all the way back to my childhood. I used to like to fantasy book big ol' complicated tournaments and at least one of them had a crossover element.

About the only specific thing I remember from that was getting really hyped for a best of seven between Shawn Michaels and Foremole.

I dunno either, man.
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IhatethisCPU
07/07/18 11:30:23 PM
#38:


I still kinda do that when I'm especially bored, I have to admit, and I have OCs I still use to this day. ...With relationships with established characters.

...No I have no intent on adding them to this mod, that'd be silly and a bit too indulgent, even for me ^_^'
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Tom Bombadil
07/07/18 11:40:45 PM
#39:


I have a fed planned of my "what if I tried to start a backyard fed IRL RIGHT NOW" EWR game from over a decade ago so shrug >_>
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Tom Bombadil
07/08/18 2:50:07 PM
#40:


Random thoughts:

-If I was gonna do this again (ha!) or start it over (double ha!) I would not try to adhere to the suggested definitions of size categories. Have been doing so as best I can (and I don't wanna go back and fix several thousand people thanks) and I think that's gonna result in like 70% of the wrestlers being "Small" or "Very Small" >_>
-Do we wanna stick to a traditional draft format for FWA like usual, or something fancier? I'm entertained by the idea of doing it more like a TCG draft where people are put in "packs" and passed around and taken one at a time. Would add an interesting layer of tactics to the draft but it'd be harder to get specific people you want, and a lot of work on my end I guess but when has that stopped me lol. There are a few different ways we could sort them (ie have one round that's all top guys, or all guys from X area, or all women, or all tag teams) or not. Another possibility would be some sort of bidding/point buy system.
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eaedwards6400
07/08/18 2:57:14 PM
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-If we ever did this again (again, ha) I would have everyone put their suggested sizes on their spreadsheet.
-i would like to hear suggestions but I like what we did with nationals get 2 rounds and then everyone has 2 rounds.

... dont tempt me because my brothers and I still have a "wrestling league" we make in WWE 2K every year (we think we arent gonna get next years game though)
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IhatethisCPU
07/08/18 3:40:23 PM
#42:


We could just have a rando round or two. I kiiiiinda like the TCG pack idea, after the first five rounds, people to build around and the like, 10/15 around of the card packs, then a couple round of NLInc style randoing.
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Tom Bombadil
07/08/18 5:47:47 PM
#43:


So like 10 "normal" picks, 10 "tcg" picks, and 10 randoms? Hmmmm
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eaedwards6400
07/08/18 7:26:44 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
So like 10 "normal" picks, 10 "tcg" picks, and 10 randoms? Hmmmm


And that's for a national fed?
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Tom Bombadil
07/08/18 7:32:08 PM
#45:


something like, yeah
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Tom Bombadil
07/08/18 8:59:24 PM
#46:


*gets distracted trying to come up with a company name for redwall*
*doublechecks that Guosim is indeed a thing that is spelled that way*
*redwall wiki rabbit trail*

http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Legends_of_Redwall

huh!
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Tom Bombadil
07/08/18 9:53:09 PM
#47:


31/31 @_@ Need ages tho please

so eaed you're in favor of everybody getting to choose their own fed size? That would make drafting kinda weird and the game less competitive but I suppose not everybody might WANT a certain size of fed.
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eaedwards6400
07/09/18 2:09:17 PM
#48:


Just in the realm of someone wanting to play in the difficulties that are cult or lower and constantly having your top star poached
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IhatethisCPU
07/09/18 2:13:43 PM
#49:


I was figuring the first few would be exclusive written contracts, but with how expensive those can be, and considering people actually ask for pay raises if they're not paid what they're worth now...
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eaedwards6400
07/09/18 2:14:32 PM
#50:


Oh that's right that's a thing this time for Cult.
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