Poll of the Day > Did you know that Pregnant women get 1 YEAR Maternity Leave in Canada???

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mrduckbear
06/30/18 11:21:47 AM
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Do you think it should be a year or 14-21 days max? - Results (3 votes)
A year
66.67% (2 votes)
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14-21 days max
33.33% (1 vote)
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It's true.

When women have babies right after birth, they get a YEAR off to bond with their child and by law, employers pay them during that time off..but at a partial rate, 70-80% of their salary for the year however employers cannot fire them during this time off either. and it could be the father who takes the time off too if he wanted to instead of the mother but that's rare..

In the united states mothers only get 2-3 WEEKS at most to bond with their child and after that they must find arrangements asap and pay for babysitters after that...and those 2-3 weeks are UNPAID too!

Which do you think is the better idea?

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LinkPizza
06/30/18 11:23:32 AM
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I think th should get more than 21 days, it less than a year. So, neither I guess...
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streamofthesky
06/30/18 11:30:54 AM
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Something closer to the US's model than Canada's.

1 year paid leave is insane, and unfair to the other workers who now have to pick up the slack for the missing person for the same wage.
(of course, in the US, they have to pick up the slack for the same wage even though the company's pocketing the money that would've gone to the mother on leave, which is pretty bs too)

Probably 2-3 weeks paid leave for mothers and fathers at most, and then as much unpaid leave as they want (with protection from losing their job for the extended absence). Requiring the parent to inform the company of the length of unpaid absence up front is fair, too. So if it is going to be long, they know to hire a temp replacement.
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Ogurisama
06/30/18 11:35:36 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Something closer to the US's model than Canada's.

1 year paid leave is insane, and unfair to the other workers who now have to pick up the slack for the missing person for the same wage.
(of course, in the US, they have to pick up the slack for the same wage even though the company's pocketing the money that would've gone to the mother on leave, which is pretty bs too)

Probably 2-3 weeks paid leave for mothers and fathers at most, and then as much unpaid leave as they want (with protection from losing their job for the extended absence). Requiring the parent to inform the company of the length of unpaid absence up front is fair, too. So if it is going to be long, they know to hire a temp replacement.

How it usually works is for that one year a temp is hired to replace her for the year. The person gets hired on knowing they are a temp for the year and once the year is over, the temp is usually let go (unless another position opens up, or the mother decides to quit in that year)

Mat Leave is not time off, its to take care of your baby, any parent would know it isnt actually time off from work.
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VeeVees
06/30/18 12:29:22 PM
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0, to discourage having babies at all.
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Zeus
06/30/18 3:05:22 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
In the united states mothers only get 2-3 WEEKS at most to bond with their child and after that they must find arrangements asap and pay for babysitters after that...and those 2-3 weeks are UNPAID too!


All of that depends on the employer. Some offer paid leave, others offer longer leaves (paid to a point then unpaid after), and others offer on-site child care. However, the US (and probably Canada as well) has a culture where -- depending on finances -- one partner will either stay home with the child or at least works reduced hours until the child hits a certain age.

mrduckbear posted...
Which do you think is the better idea?


Given the employer hardships associated with paying them for just 2-3 weeks, it's a terrible idea. I imagine that Canada must have countless exemptions since a lot of the companies couldn't afford to stay in business if they needed to pay somebody 70% of their normal wage to stay at home for a year while paying another person 100% of that same wage to do their job (since, if somebody's going to be out an entire year, you *really* need to hire somebody else unless their job was completely superfluous -- for some jobs, they'll bring in a temp to cover just the 2-3 weeks that somebody is out).
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Smarkil
06/30/18 3:39:40 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
How it usually works is for that one year a temp is hired to replace her for the year. The person gets hired on knowing they are a temp for the year and once the year is over, the temp is usually let go (unless another position opens up, or the mother decides to quit in that year)

Mat Leave is not time off, its to take care of your baby, any parent would know it isnt actually time off from work.


Yeah, except that only works for unskilled positions. If you're anything above entry level, a temp isn't going to be able to do the job effectively.
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Dikitain
06/30/18 4:02:05 PM
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My company does 12 weeks (for both mother and father), I think that is fair. If someone is gone for 12 weeks it is an annoyance but not a "place is going to burn down and take everyone else with it" thing. Any longer then that though...

Ogurisama posted...
How it usually works is for that one year a temp is hired to replace her for the year. The person gets hired on knowing they are a temp for the year and once the year is over, the temp is usually let go (unless another position opens up, or the mother decides to quit in that year)


Yea, that doesn't work for skilled labor. In our company we have a policy that it takes 3 months to effectively train someone to do the job they are hired for. Plus that "temp" would legally be entitled to time and a half due to contract positions needing to be payed more then full time due to their temporary nature. So effectively we would be paying two and a half people and getting maybe half a person worth of work out of them. Not worth it in the least.
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dioxxys
06/30/18 4:07:34 PM
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Sounds just like more incentive for companies not to hire women
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streamofthesky
06/30/18 4:22:15 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Sounds just like more incentive for companies not to hire women

I recall reading that Russia of all places has very generous maternity leave (but not paternity), and it was cited as a reason that companies there are less likely to hire young women.

Maybe that's changed though, this was over a decade ago.
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