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Grischnak
07/12/18 5:14:54 PM
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Speaking of gacha systems, you know what game has a really good system? King's Raid. I don't really play it anymore but the gacha system in that game was one of the best I ever saw. Basically, there is no gacha for characters. All characters can be bought outright with currency. The gacha is just for gear. That system was amazing. I wish all gacha games functioned like that. Being able to just buy a character and not have to gamble for it was so nice.
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thelastgooduser
07/12/18 5:21:24 PM
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Tried Fire Emblem Heroes but didn't quite get it and I'm not a Fire Emblem fan anyway. Smt game looks interesting
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/12/18 5:27:33 PM
#53:


Oh wait, I actually have two last questions (hopefully). Does Girls Frontline take a lot of data? And also...Is this a Jalter reference?

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Popcorn_Fairy
07/12/18 5:55:09 PM
#54:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Oh yeah, I had a couple more questions. How is the stamina? I like how stamina refills at 1 point every 2 minutes in Knights Chronicle as opposed to 5 minutes in FGO.

And what are the micro transactions like? Basic currency stuff like in most gacha?


No stamina. You just have four resources that you obtain over time and by sending squads in logistics. Resources are used in crafting new characters, repairing characters, and ammo for missions. When running logistics and not using the factory for more guns, you'll pretty much never run out. The last few days I've been running things almost non stop taking advantage of the exp up event, and haven't even come close to running out.

The micro transactions are you can buy most everything, but those are a waste of gems at the rate you already get those. The big thing is on tokens. These are the big gacha thing. Tokens are used for cosmetic items and furniture only. Part of what makes it so great. The characters are all pulled from the factory by using different recipes of resources, you can change that to increase odds if certain guns. Plus you can get others by just running missions.

fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Does Girls Frontline take a lot of data?


I don't think so, but I don't know for certain.
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Blue_Dream87
07/12/18 7:13:51 PM
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Just started playing Girls Frontline yesterday. Only on chapter 2 but I'm enjoying it. Especially more than Fate, FEH and Brave Exvius. No pressure to buy unless it's cosmetics
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pogo_rabid
07/12/18 7:28:51 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Just started playing Girls Frontline yesterday. Only on chapter 2 but I'm enjoying it. Especially more than Fate, FEH and Brave Exvius. No pressure to buy unless it's cosmetics

That's what I liked about it. It's the only mobile game to keep my attention since Super Hexagon was released.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/12/18 8:26:47 PM
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Can you repeat quests to keep getting rations/ammo and stuff? I dont mind grinding, but I dont like the real time repairs :<

Also its a toss up between Girls Frontline and FGO. Theyre taking up over 2 gb on my phone and for some reason I dont have that much space. Not sure whats clogging up my storage...
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Nightmare_Luna
07/12/18 8:29:55 PM
#58:


i play granblue

it's the only gacha worth playing aside from gun girl game
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Kelystic
07/12/18 8:32:30 PM
#59:


@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Does Girls Frontline take a lot of data?

I don't think so, but I don't know for certain.


No. It uses even less data than Knights Chronicle and Fire Emblem Heroes.
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/12/18 9:13:17 PM
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Can you repeat quests to keep getting rations/ammo and stuff? I dont mind grinding, but I dont like the real time repairs :<

Also its a toss up between Girls Frontline and FGO. Theyre taking up over 2 gb on my phone and for some reason I dont have that much space. Not sure whats clogging up my storage...


Oh, for your resources, you send logistics teams out to do that. Logistics are different from the actual game. You have so many slots for teams, so you'll have a few dedicated to running logistics. Those missions are repeatable, and don't require anything from you. You just tell the team to go and they come back however long later with however many resources are the reward, usually plus a little extra, or a contract of some kind. You'll want to run long ones when you won't be playing for a bit, and come back to higher amount. Or if your around, send them on shorter ones. The shorter ones have lower amounts, but a higher gain if you're around to keep sending. I don't remember how many team slots you start with, but you'll want a few of them constantly running. Just don't send all your teams, or you won't have a combat team. If you keep them going, you'll pretty much never need to worry about running out of resources. Unless you keep the factory going for better characters.

The combat missions are the ones you actually play during. you can repeat those as much as you want as well. The combat missions give exp and character drops. It gives you a list of who drops from whatever mission if you see a character you really want so you run it again.

You'll also get a ton of quick repair contracts as you play, those will instantly finish your repairs. They pile up fast, I've currently got like 240. And if you repair often, the timers are often like 5-10 minutes, so it isn't bad at all.
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Delirious_Beard
07/12/18 9:13:40 PM
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don't play any of that gacha trash
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RE_expert44
07/12/18 9:14:35 PM
#62:


just got Star Ocean for mobile and am loving it. I played a little bit of Girls Frontline but its so slow paced.
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Leanaunfurled
07/12/18 9:19:26 PM
#63:


This topic has been bad for my phone. And Food Fantasy and SMT are pre-registered.

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Popcorn_Fairy
07/12/18 9:22:05 PM
#64:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Also its a toss up between Girls Frontline and FGO. Theyre taking up over 2 gb on my phone and for some reason I dont have that much space. Not sure whats clogging up my storage...


I mean, I don't have any love for Fate, so I'd say Girls Frontline, but putting that aside. Fate has abysmal pull rates. Meanwhile, in Girls Frontline, you can improve your odds of pulling specific types, which increases odds for certain characters. The rare characters, while rare, are still much more common than other gacha style games, and you don't need to pay a penny in Girls Frontline, as all the character pulls are based on the in game resources, which you'll have an abundance of. The only pressure for real people money is if you want event skins and cosmetics. Just judging based on how friendly and forgiving it is to the player, Girls Frontline is miles ahead.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/12/18 11:51:13 PM
#65:


Actually yeah GF is pretty fun. I seem to be in a rut with FGO. For the past few days Ive only been playing the hardest difficulty dailies once each to get the mana prisms and clear the weekly goals. Just Mordred and Raikou Noble Phantasm spam to clear each wave in one turn lol.

Is there any downside to using random peoples recipe or whatever to make T Dolls? I immediately made that 5 star German sniper chick lol. Well, am in the process of making. I know that I probably shouldnt spend my starting resources that fast so shell be the only expensive one I make right now
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/12/18 11:55:30 PM
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The downside is, that the recipe they use might be not be the best, and you aren't guaranteed what they got. Here is a page that explains everything you need to know about crafting, a time chart, optimal recipes and all that.

https://en.gfwiki.com/wiki/T-Doll_Production
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pres_madagascar
07/13/18 12:03:50 AM
#67:


Leanaunfurled posted...
This topic has been bad for my phone. And Food Fantasy and SMT are pre-registered.

lHNO4Qa

Yeah I'm hyped for the SMT one. Seems perfect for this style, and uses persona/traditional smt hybrid combat.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 12:03:53 AM
#68:


Oooooooh I see. So you input the ingredients, then based on those youll get a certain class? And until I get heavy construction I have a 60% chance to get crappy 1 stars, even with all those materials :<
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pres_madagascar
07/13/18 12:05:06 AM
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Star ocean just came out in the US on Tuesday.

Tbqh they're almost TOO generous right now. I've got a full team of max level max star characters, with maxed out weapons, using judt the free shit they gave me. It's fun as fuck though actually.
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 12:11:18 AM
#70:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Oooooooh I see. So you input the ingredients, then based on those youll get a certain class? And until I get heavy construction I have a 60% chance to get crappy 1 stars, even with all those materials :<


Yep. So based on what you do, you increase odds for what you want.

2 Stars actually aren't bad, and some of them can even stand up some of the 5 Stars. You'll also need those two stars for how leveling works. Leveling doesn't actually up your stats. It ups the cap for the stat. So you'll need 2 Stars for enhancing. By dumping a bunch of 2 Star units into your gun, it ups all it's stats. Also, don't use 3 Stars or Higher in enhancing. They'll give you cores if you disassemble.
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DarthDemented
07/13/18 12:13:42 AM
#71:


Marvel's avengers alliance... ok oh yeah...
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 12:25:35 AM
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Disassembling the little waifus sounds so cruel D:
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 12:27:17 AM
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Disassembling the little waifus sounds so cruel D:


Sounds cruel, but according to lore, all you're doing is disarming their firing systems and removing the core, then they move on to civilian stuff.
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Spidey5
07/13/18 12:28:41 AM
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 12:30:40 AM
#75:


No, no salt mines. They do regular civilian stuffs. Like Springfield owns a bakery or a cafe or something.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 2:09:31 AM
#76:


Can you increase star levels, or will units always be stuck at whatever they're at? Also, NOEL FUCKING VERMILLION :O

Need that collaboration to come here nao.

Oh yeah, and is there a way to choose who you want everyone to target or is it all automatic :<
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pogo_rabid
07/13/18 7:10:59 AM
#77:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
No, no salt mines. They do regular civilian stuffs. Like Springfield owns a bakery or a cafe or something.


They definitely mention something about "begin sent to the salt mines or coal mines" for the late chapter 5 story missions

EDIT: Looked it up- looks like it was what could happen to one character as punishment for her actions.
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Kineth
07/13/18 7:43:19 AM
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Just FEH, though the SMT one looks interesting.
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 7:45:09 AM
#79:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Can you increase star levels, or will units always be stuck at whatever they're at?


They have what they have. But again, lower stars doesn't mean they're bad. There is a feature not out yet in the English game, that allows you to up certain guns into a higher star level. But it's only a select few guns. I know our Lord and Savior IDW is one of them.

fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Oh yeah, and is there a way to choose who you want everyone to target or is it all automatic :<


Automatic.
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green butter
07/13/18 7:46:19 AM
#80:


I wish someone would make a hero collecting / gacha game for ppl who like this sort of stupid shit but hate anime. Seems like every game in this genre is some weeb crap
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pogo_rabid
07/13/18 7:58:07 AM
#81:


green butter posted...
I wish someone would make a hero collecting / gacha game for ppl who like this sort of stupid shit but hate anime. Seems like every game in this genre is some weeb crap

Battlefront 2
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Spidey5
07/13/18 7:59:23 AM
#82:


green butter posted...
I wish someone would make a hero collecting / gacha game for ppl who like this sort of stupid shit but hate anime. Seems like every game in this genre is some weeb crap

It's called EA. They even managed to dumb the system down even further for your ilk.
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Calwings
07/13/18 9:04:41 AM
#83:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Can you increase star levels, or will units always be stuck at whatever they're at?

In GFL, rarity doesn't necessarily show how good they are. Some of the 4 and 5 star units (like MP5 or Kar98k) severely underperform for their high rarity, while some of the 2 and 3 star units (like PPK or M14) overachieve and can be just as good as their higher rarity counterparts, in some cases better. Plus, lower rarity units take less cores to fully power up, so they're more resource efficient. It's actually recommended not to use too many high-rarity units early in the game, or you'll be short on cores a lot of the time.

Plus, the power gap isn't that significant, and as long as your team composition makes sense (not wasting tile buffs, having tanks up front and squishy units in the back, etc.) most of the story missions can be beaten with just about any batch of units. So don't be afraid to use your favorite raifu even if she's not among the best units in the game. I use MP5 on one of my teams despite her being statistically one of the worst SMG's in the game, and I know Pop fell in love with AK-47 despite her being one of the worst AR's in the game.

But they're cute, so we don't care.

Popcorn_Fairy posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Oh yeah, and is there a way to choose who you want everyone to target or is it all automatic :<

Automatic.

You can't control who your units go after, but some certain types have priority on who they target. I know that AR's will focus on attacking frontline enemies, Rifles will focus on backline enemies, and units with AP rounds will focus on armored units (which only show up in night battles). There may be other targeting priorities besides those.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 1:06:52 PM
#84:


Fuck, Kar is bad? Shes the unit Im going after first lol. Can you recommend some good snipers? But I also need to check their designs, because I wont be using no ugly chicks :<
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TheMarthKoopa
07/13/18 1:11:35 PM
#85:


M99, Mosin, Springfield best rifles
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 1:14:34 PM
#86:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Fuck, Kar is bad? Shes the unit Im going after first lol. Can you recommend some good snipers? But I also need to check their designs, because I wont be using no ugly chicks :<


Don't fall into the "They aren't good?" trap. Use whoever you like. Kar has a big following in the playerbase, despite her not being ideal.

TheMarthKoopa posted...
M99, Mosin, Springfield best rifles


As much as I love Mosin, Mosin is my favorite Sniper, Mosin and Springfield aren't considered that great.
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 1:17:54 PM
#87:


Also, for other rifles if you insist on it. I think WA2000 is considered to be the best. Personally, I don't like her because she's a tsundere. So I refuse to use her.

NTW-20 is a favorite of mine, as she's a fucking anti-material rifle. I believe she has the highest damage in the game, and is getting a swimsuit skin in the upcoming event.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 1:31:07 PM
#88:


You had me at highest damage in the game :3

Thats one of the reasons I love Jalter to much in FGO :))
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 1:35:24 PM
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Excellent choice. Here's her swimsuit skin in the upcoming Summer Event

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And here's why she's the best.

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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 1:37:35 PM
#90:


Lol yes, the term anti-something rifle has always got my attention. Like in Valkyria Chronicles, I love the anti-tank snipers :D

Is there a batch download or something? It seems to take a while to load some stuff :((

Also, any idea when Ballista and that AR chick with the pet come out? I find units with cute little companions funny :3
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 1:56:08 PM
#91:


We got a few new ones coming out soon, but no Ballista. By AR with a pet, do you mean FAL? She's in the game.
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Calwings
07/13/18 2:04:32 PM
#92:


WA2000, SVD and M14 are considered the best 3 rifles overall. NTW20 is best for nuking bosses and armored units, but is weaker for general use.

As for the AR with the pet, FAL is in the game and she's pretty good. She's a bonus reward for the first time you spend real money on gems (just get the cheap $1 pack) so you can get her early and easy. She's also craftable (if you absolutely refuse to spend a single cent of real money) but she's pretty rare.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 2:20:21 PM
#93:


Oh score, I can get her for a buck lol. And yeah, it was FAL :3

Think two snipers can work? I want NTW and probably either Kar, SVD (I'm actually trying to make her ATM), or WA2000

Jesus, I forgot Ballista was also a sniper. I know I want her and that chick with the long silver hair and gas mask. I forget her name...Her skill was Snow Wolf's something and it gave her a shitload of buffs.

So maybe NTW, Kar/SVD/WA2000 (changed to Ballista when released), FAL, Snow Wolf Chick, and... Noel :D
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 2:55:09 PM
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Sure, I don't see any reason it wouldn't. Snipers also pair very well with handguns. Food for thought.
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Calwings
07/13/18 3:20:15 PM
#95:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Think two snipers can work? I want NTW and probably either Kar, SVD (I'm actually trying to make her ATM), or WA2000

Generally, don't use a unit on a team if it won't be buffing anything or being buffed by anything.

SMG's and AR's (with the extremely rare exception of M4A1, who is an AR that buffs other AR's) buff each other, MG's and Shotguns buff each other, Rifles buff Handguns, and Handguns buff everything. The most simple but effective builds are 3AR/2SMG, 3RF/2HG, and 3MG/2SG. Throwing a handgun into an AR/SMG or MG/SG team for power buffs sometimes helps, and a 4AR/1SMG team with M4A1 buffing the other three AR's is another popular formation. Having a mixed team (like 2AR/1SMG/1RF/1HG) can work as long as they're positioned right and buff tiles aren't being wasted, but a team where none of the units are buffing each other at all (something crazy like 2RF/1MG/2SMG) is a massive waste of time/potential and should never be done.
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Popcorn_Fairy
07/13/18 3:26:55 PM
#96:


Don't underestimate the power of the Machine Gun Squad. They don't buff each other, but they still shred.
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/13/18 3:47:32 PM
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I would expect the 3RF/2HG squad to get flattened pretty quickly. Aren't both types fairly squishy?
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Leanaunfurled
07/13/18 3:50:26 PM
#98:


Which one is this? Frontline?
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Megaman50100
07/13/18 3:57:36 PM
#99:


Puzzle & Dragons, has gameplay made to work on mobile rather than just being a stripped-down version of a non-mobile game. Plenty of skill-testing that rewards player growth rather than just unit growth. Also has great collaborations.
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SSJKirby
07/13/18 3:57:54 PM
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Battle cats but haven't played it in weeks though
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