Poll of the Day > Chicago man harasses woman for wearing a shirt showing Puerto Rico

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Mead
07/12/18 10:25:55 PM
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Told her she should not be wearing such a thing in this country

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-viral-video-hate-crime-charge-forest-preserve-20180712-story.html

The dumbass has been charged with a hate crime
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Far-Queue
07/12/18 10:32:53 PM
#2:


Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.
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Zeus
07/12/18 11:02:37 PM
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Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>
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HelIWithoutSin
07/12/18 11:09:14 PM
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Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?
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Metal_Mario99
07/12/18 11:14:37 PM
#5:


Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?
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Far-Queue
07/12/18 11:17:00 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?
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Zeus
07/12/18 11:17:24 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?


WTF is wrong with you?
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Metal_Mario99
07/12/18 11:18:34 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?

I don't know if that's even true, but even if it was, it's no excuse for violence against a minor.
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Far-Queue
07/12/18 11:21:18 PM
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Throwing a drink in someone's face after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities is a pretty tame response, to be honest. Kid is lucky he didn't get his ass kicked.

But okay. You keep on defending racist assholes.
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wwinterj25
07/12/18 11:23:08 PM
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Oh the drama!
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Metal_Mario99
07/12/18 11:30:08 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Throwing a drink in someone's face after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities is a pretty tame response, to be honest. Kid is lucky he didn't get his ass kicked.

But okay. You keep on defending racist assholes.

So, you're okay with violence against kids? Good to know.
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Far-Queue
07/12/18 11:35:37 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're okay with violence against kids? Good to know.

I'm okay with violence against racist scumbags.
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Mead
07/12/18 11:38:50 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Oh the drama!


*felony
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Mead
07/12/18 11:41:08 PM
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Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


If youre yelling at someone in their face unprovoked and refuse to leave them alone when they ask you to, yes that is illegal

Its called harassment. The woman did nothing whatsoever to deserve to be treated that way by some stranger.
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shadowsword87
07/12/18 11:42:06 PM
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Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.
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helIy
07/12/18 11:43:41 PM
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Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


If youre yelling at someone in their face unprovoked and refuse to leave them alone when they ask you to, yes that is illegal

Its called harassment. The woman did nothing whatsoever to deserve to be treated that way by some stranger.

you're trying to explain to zeus something he does every day here

he's just gonna ignore it
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The Popo
07/12/18 11:46:42 PM
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Id say the cop was even more shameful than the dipshit. Yes, guy being charged with a hate crime was an asshole, but there are a ton of those unfortunately. For a cop to do absolutely nothing though when there is clear harassment going on (in an area that she has privately rented out, no less) is horrible. Ordinary people were stepping in to assist while he did nothing.

Glad he got fired.
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jramirez23
07/12/18 11:50:21 PM
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Yeah the cop needed to do something. It's his job.
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SunWuKung420
07/12/18 11:56:00 PM
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I love when Americans fail to understand that Puerto Ricans have citizenship from birth.
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KaptainKiro
07/13/18 12:08:11 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities


zero proof this actually happened lol

also, wtf is with the cop in this vid
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YahooPoster
07/13/18 12:13:36 AM
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The cop resigned.
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PuddingBoy
07/13/18 12:18:56 AM
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helIy posted...
Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


If youre yelling at someone in their face unprovoked and refuse to leave them alone when they ask you to, yes that is illegal

Its called harassment. The woman did nothing whatsoever to deserve to be treated that way by some stranger.

you're trying to explain to zeus something he does every day here

he's just gonna ignore it

inb4 he says he's been doxxed on here and is harassed by everyone every day
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Smarkil
07/13/18 12:22:27 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.


Uh no, that's battery. It's also theft for that matter. It could even be considered robbery since the guy took the item under the threat of violence.
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shadowsword87
07/13/18 12:25:45 AM
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Smarkil posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.


Uh no, that's battery. It's also theft for that matter. It could even be considered robbery since the guy took the item under the threat of violence.


Show me a judge who would actually follow through on that though.
And for a non-rich person, because those people have different laws.
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 12:28:12 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.

According to liberals, even speech is violence these days.
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Andromicus
07/13/18 12:31:36 AM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.

According to liberals, even speech is violence these days.

Literally all I've ever seen you say is "but liberals"
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Sarcasthma
07/13/18 12:32:51 AM
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Andromicus posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.

According to liberals, even speech is violence these days.

Literally all I've ever seen you say is "but liberals"

Not true. He complains about Muslims pretty often, too.
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Smarkil
07/13/18 12:39:47 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Show me a judge who would actually follow through on that though.
And for a non-rich person, because those people have different laws.


Well hopefully all of them considering it's against the law. If they aren't being prosecuted, then the judicial system isn't doing it's job. The only way it wouldn't be prosecuted, if the kid chose to press charges, is if the guy could prove it was an accident. Clearly, based on the video, it was not an accident.
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 12:44:06 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Andromicus posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.

According to liberals, even speech is violence these days.

Literally all I've ever seen you say is "but liberals"

Not true. He complains about Muslims pretty often, too.

Well, there's a lot to complain about.
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Sarcasthma
07/13/18 12:47:32 AM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Andromicus posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition. In this case, I will go with the legal definition, because it's not hurting someone and that's

It's neither Assault, nor Battery. You didn't hurt them, so it's not battery, and assault is the threat of hurting someone, which also wasn't the case.

The best you could get is personal damage for a t-shirt maybe getting ruined and a lost hat. But that's, what, at best $50? You would get that case immediately thrown out, probably with prejudice because it's $50 and the courts have other shit to do.

According to liberals, even speech is violence these days.

Literally all I've ever seen you say is "but liberals"

Not true. He complains about Muslims pretty often, too.

Well, there's a lot to complain about.

; )
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ifnsman
07/13/18 12:48:21 AM
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Zeus posted...
Yelling at people in the middle of the street is illegal now? Is this even America any more? Or did we stumble into Orwellian England or Soviet Russia? >_>


You're free to yell in the middle of the street, alright.

But you're not free of the consequences.

Even Trump-supporters should realize that both actions and words will have repercussions. You won't be stopped from saying anything in the first place.
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Zeus
07/13/18 12:54:29 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Uh, throwing a drink in someone's face is not violence under any definition.


It is under most definitions. It's literally behavior involving physical force intended to harm. If your argument is that it caused no lasting damage, the same is true of a weak shove, slap, etc. And legally, any *physical* contact can be grounds for an assault charge.

https://www.taylorlawco.com/blog/domestic-assault-and-battery--it-does-not-take-much.cfm

It does not take a whole lot to get an assault charge. The law defines assault and battery as an unwanted touching that is done in a rude or angry manner. It can be as simple as shoving someone, blocking their way, spitting on them, grabbing someone's arm, throwing something (liquid or otherwise) at them, or even grabbing something out of their hand. Assault and Battery does not always mean someone was hit or punched. Remember, it does not take much.

Mead posted...
If youre yelling at someone in their face unprovoked and refuse to leave them alone when they ask you to, yes that is illegal


So pretty much every protest group should be locked up, right? At any rate, it's a dangerously low standard but, in a nation where having a lot of cash on you warrants government confiscation, I can't say that I'm surprised.

KaptainKiro posted...
Far-Queue posted...
after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities


zero proof this actually happened lol

also, wtf is with the cop in this vid


This, tbh. Although it'd still be no excuse.

helIy posted...
you're trying to explain to zeus something he does every day here

he's just gonna ignore it


The hypocrisy is real... and on like every level.
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GordonFreeGin
07/13/18 1:01:06 AM
#34:


Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?

I don't know if that's even true, but even if it was, it's no excuse for violence against a minor.

Womp womp.
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Mead
07/13/18 1:16:07 AM
#35:


So pretty much every protest group should be locked up, right?


If theyre protesting by approaching individuals and shouting at them in a place where those people have a right to be or conduct some sort of business then yes obviously they should be arrested and many protesters do in fact get arrested for disturbing the peace if they engage in that type of behavior

That hardly describes most protesters though and youre smart enough to realize that a protest is a very different thing than a single person targeting another individual like the situation in the article

Its amusingly transparent how certain individuals in this topic want so badly to defend the man being charged because they agree with what he said to the woman and they want to be able to act like that too
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Rasmoh
07/13/18 1:42:46 AM
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Really stunning that the cop didn't do anything. Shameful.
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Zeus
07/13/18 1:50:12 AM
#37:


Mead posted...
That hardly describes most protesters though and youre smart enough to realize that a protest is a very different thing than a single person targeting another individual like the situation in the article


I'm not sure that you've been by many protests or, at least, tried to get into the place being protested.

Mead posted...
Its amusingly transparent how certain individuals in this topic want so badly to defend the man being charged because they agree with what he said to the woman and they want to be able to act like that too


It's amusingly transparent that posters who claim to be fans of civil liberty and who actually applaud invasions of space in other situations -- defending it as a right -- very quickly abandon those views the second they disagree with the stance being taken.
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TheCyborgNinja
07/13/18 1:52:30 AM
#38:


Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Trump fellating assholes is what will be happening during his trip to Helsinki :P
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Lil69Leo
07/13/18 2:18:39 AM
#39:


GordonFreeGin posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?

I don't know if that's even true, but even if it was, it's no excuse for violence against a minor.

Womp womp.


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Mead
07/13/18 2:20:22 AM
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I'm not sure that you've been by many protests or, at least, tried to get into the place being protested.


Ive been part of them and walked by even more. Ive never seen violence or anything heated. Its usually just people marching or standing somewhere holding signs for cars or passerby to see while they chant some message or slogan.

Like Ive told you before, what you see on television is a poor representation of the real world.
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Mead
07/13/18 2:20:53 AM
#41:


Lil69Leo posted...
GordonFreeGin posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?

I don't know if that's even true, but even if it was, it's no excuse for violence against a minor.

Womp womp.


IIRC Metal Mario was completely fine with children being ripped from their families and other conservative idiotic things.


Okay, but you cant get them wet!
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Mead
07/13/18 2:21:42 AM
#42:


applaud invasions of space in other situations -- defending it as a right


Fake news
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 2:30:22 AM
#43:


Lil69Leo posted...
GordonFreeGin posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?

I don't know if that's even true, but even if it was, it's no excuse for violence against a minor.

Womp womp.


IIRC Metal Mario was completely fine with children being ripped from their families and other conservative idiotic things.

IIRC you were fine with it when Obama was doing it.
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Mead
07/13/18 2:44:02 AM
#44:


Neither Obama or Bush instructed ICE to take toddlers and infants away from their parents with no plan whatsoever about how to go about reunification.
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 2:51:42 AM
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Also, liberals don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to tearing babies away from their mothers.
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Cacciato
07/13/18 2:53:24 AM
#46:


Is this the same Jesus freak MarioFanatic#### that was around years ago?
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 2:56:35 AM
#47:


Reported.
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Cacciato
07/13/18 2:57:50 AM
#48:


Metal_Mario99 posted...
Reported.

Gonna take that as a yes.
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 2:58:41 AM
#49:


Take it as you're an anti-Christian bigot.
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Cacciato
07/13/18 3:02:23 AM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Take it as you're an anti-Christian bigot.

Now its definitely a yes.
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Metal_Mario99
07/13/18 3:05:17 AM
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And you definitely are.
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