Board 8 > Let me talk about the clothing design in Umineko *don't spoil me!!!*

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GANON1025
07/15/18 11:06:49 PM
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Now that I have seen Krauss and have met all the characters in the game, here's my rough ranking of them:

- Rudolf : Very very good suit. I love that color blue, and I like the placement of the logo in the jacket. Plus there is that sneaky logo on his leg. Incidentally, Rudolf is also my favorite character so far but that doesn't matter.

- Kinzo : Just really cool all-around. TRIPLE LOGOS. I guess they're actually family crests but whatever. The cloak is cool, and the white suit is nice. I don't mind the two logos on the collar and suit being so close on him. Does the red handkerchief in his pocked represent his bond/love of Battler??? yea it does

- Eva : I really like the design of the dress. The logo is a little TOO hard to make out on it, though.

- Krauss : OK, but I think his suit is lacking compared to Rudolf. I don't like the two logos being so close together on this suit.

- Battler : The main man himself. I like the cream suit and how his undershirt matches his hair. I like the single logo on his suit.

- Jessica: Looks too much like a school uniform. Skirt is OK. it is the vest that needs to change. Due to the way her sprite is designed it is hard to see the logo on her arm but it's kinda cool being there.

- George: Not a huge fan of the lime green, plus his glasses are bad. By the way, I solved it. He did it. I don't know what it IS, but he is either doing it or has done it or will do it.

- Rosa: Don't like the logo being on the kerchief or w/e that is. Fairly boring dress otherwise.

- Kyrie: Her suit is TOO unique and over-designed. Looks like she should be in danganronpa or something.

- Natsuhi : No logo is not good. Seems fairly standard victorion-style dress though I do like the color.

- Hideyoshi : No logo plus very boring suit design puts him super low even if I'm liking the red undershirt.
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GANON1025
07/16/18 10:21:08 AM
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Upon further reading I found out these logos are technically sigils
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Tom Bombadil
07/16/18 10:21:39 AM
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tag for cool and good fashion playthrough
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GANON1025
07/16/18 12:55:11 PM
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Eva also said the sigils prove how cool and good the real family members are compared to the others ( and shes right) but I know some (by not all) of the servants have that icon too. Are they secret children????
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GANON1025
07/16/18 9:19:35 PM
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I'll make some kind of effort to play enough to keep this updated in some capacity.
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Raka_Putra
07/16/18 9:42:53 PM
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Oh my I'd love to see your opinion on characters introduced latter, especially someone in a red dress. But that's not until later.
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GANON1025
07/16/18 10:51:22 PM
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I want back and looked at the original sprites,

HOLY SHIT that's horrifying

This deviantart-ass looking art is genuinely unsettling. Good god, I can't believe anyone would suffer through that.
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Team Rocket Elite
07/16/18 10:55:12 PM
#8:


If you aren't using the original art, you aren't getting the true Umineko experience.
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dowolf
07/16/18 10:55:33 PM
#9:


The original sprites are amazing and perfect in every way.

...Okay, maybe not perfect, but they have a lot of charm and personality to them in a way that I feel the clinically "good" alternatives don't.
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GANON1025
07/16/18 10:55:52 PM
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I DONT want that, then
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GANON1025
07/16/18 10:58:02 PM
#11:


The art that I'm using, the PS3 sprites modded in, are objectively better in every single way possible
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Team Rocket Elite
07/16/18 10:58:58 PM
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dowolf gets it. You just don't realize what you are missing by not using the original art.
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Reg
07/16/18 11:01:02 PM
#13:


While you guys are correct, I'd rather see somebody play the game with the PS3 sprites than be so put off by their first impressions of the original sprites they just don't play it at all.
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tcaz2
07/16/18 11:01:40 PM
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Its true the original art is the best

But really as long as you don't use the Steam art you're good. That crap is ugly. PS3 art is fine.
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:02:45 PM
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The original art is NOT GOOD. I'm putting my foot down here. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES can that art be considered acceptable.
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Zyxyz0
07/16/18 11:03:42 PM
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I prefer the PS3 art but original art has its charms too, the only truly bad option is the steam/pachinko sprites

also re: umi fashion stuff, Did You Know that some of the outfits were apparently copied from a lolita fashion magazine?? (don't look at this link yet ganon) https://forum.rokkenjima.org/t/ryu07s-character-design-origins-full-umineko-spoilers-image-heavy/2150
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Zyxyz0
07/16/18 11:04:09 PM
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also even if you don't like the PS3 art being able to have the voices is more than worth it
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:05:14 PM
#18:


The voices have been very nice. Especially the yelling about Beatoreecheee
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:05:50 PM
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And I suppose it is a testament to the quality of the writing and story that this VN gained fame with that bad old art style.
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Raka_Putra
07/16/18 11:14:48 PM
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Yeah it gets like a dozen rereleases, an anime, a series of fighting games, a pachinko game, and much more.
Still, the original art can be more horrifying and that's why it works better in certain contexts.
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:15:40 PM
#21:


I think that is what put me off ever trying Higurashi too. the art
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Raka_Putra
07/16/18 11:22:27 PM
#22:


Well I'm sure there are patches too for that if you want to try it after Umineko.

Zyxyz0 posted...
I prefer the PS3 art but original art has its charms too, the only truly bad option is the steam/pachinko sprites

also re: umi fashion stuff, Did You Know that some of the outfits were apparently copied from a lolita fashion magazine?? (don't look at this link yet ganon) https://forum.rokkenjima.org/t/ryu07s-character-design-origins-full-umineko-spoilers-image-heavy/2150

Also OMG I didn't know about this. It's mindblowing.
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MariaTaylor
07/16/18 11:23:12 PM
#23:


Reg posted...
While you guys are correct, I'd rather see somebody play the game with the PS3 sprites than be so put off by their first impressions of the original sprites they just don't play it at all.


I feel the opposite. I think anyone who can't appreciate the original art just shouldn't read it at all.
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LeonhartFour
07/16/18 11:24:21 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
If you aren't using the original art, you aren't getting the true Umineko experience.


quoted for truth especially with one character in particular
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:30:20 PM
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OK then I'll stop, I guess
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LeonhartFour
07/16/18 11:30:57 PM
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:49:27 PM
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Is there perhaps a mod that removes the option to even see the original art so I don't accidentally hit that option and subsequently have a heart attack from the shock?
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LeonhartFour
07/16/18 11:57:38 PM
#28:


is there a mod that stops you from whining about the art altogether
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GANON1025
07/16/18 11:59:05 PM
#29:


Oh come on now, we're just having fun no need to get upset.
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Tom Bombadil
07/17/18 12:08:07 AM
#30:


Raka_Putra posted...
Well I'm sure there are patches too for that if you want to try it after Umineko.


steam version defaults to new art but lets you toggle back to the correct art
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GANON1025
07/17/18 12:17:04 AM
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GANON1025
07/17/18 12:28:47 AM
#32:


I hope there's not TOO much Real Magic stuff in this VN. Like I would love it if there was no magic at all and anything that did look like magic was just parlor tricks to fool people for whatever reason. But I know there will be since I know Beatrice is a real character.
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dowolf
07/17/18 1:17:02 AM
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...

i'm dying.

plz keep playing.
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Raka_Putra
07/17/18 4:40:34 PM
#34:


You know what else is indistinguishable from magic?

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well jk I'll let you discover for yourself.
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greengravy294
07/17/18 5:58:32 PM
#35:


You need original art work or it doesnt count pal
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GANON1025
07/17/18 9:49:49 PM
#36:


Looking at the Steam art, it might somehow be WORSE than the original. The original art isn't good, but it's amatuerish in a way that says to me that whoever did it probably isn't an artist. I don't know nothing but I assume the author of the VN made the art? Or something like that. Anyway the Steam art doesn't have that excuse, it's also off-putting but since more talent/resources were available it is less forgivable.
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GANON1025
07/17/18 9:51:05 PM
#37:


Also thanks to the Steam trading cards I guess there is a part where Maria goes crazy?? Maybe it's just the steam art that makes her look like that though
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LeonhartFour
07/17/18 9:51:46 PM
#38:


no 'BELIEVE' and no Beatrice make Maria something something
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GANON1025
07/17/18 10:12:39 PM
#39:


Krauss is very cool it turns out.

I noticed then when a scene involves Battler, the narration is from his perspective (barring on scene I think?). But when it doesn't involve him, the narrator is a detached third party. I do wonder a little if that is relevant at all.
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GANON1025
07/17/18 10:26:19 PM
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I doubt it, but I wonder if this riddle is actually solvable by the reader when we first see it.
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Tom Bombadil
07/17/18 10:36:31 PM
#41:


GANON1025 posted...
I doubt it, but I wonder if this riddle is actually solvable by the reader when we first see it.


Answer to that question: Not unless I've forgotten a LOT about ep 1.
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GANON1025
07/17/18 11:02:48 PM
#42:


That scene in the rose garden was a bit rough..
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Raka_Putra
07/18/18 3:11:30 AM
#43:


Close to the more exciting parts.
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Tom Bombadil
07/18/18 8:03:31 AM
#44:


GANON1025 posted...
That scene in the rose garden was a bit rough..


I just reread this with wifebolo and yeah
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GANON1025
07/18/18 6:37:20 PM
#45:


Yeah I guess this is a murder mystery

as in it's a mystery to me why no one's been murdered yet!!!!!!
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Tom Bombadil
07/18/18 6:41:01 PM
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but all this exposition~~~
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Team Rocket Elite
07/18/18 6:58:30 PM
#47:


One disadvantage of the added voiced lines is it makes the rather lengthy intro section even longer.
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Tom Bombadil
07/18/18 7:40:53 PM
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l i t t l e m o n e y RIGHT NOW
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GANON1025
07/18/18 7:43:43 PM
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Voices might make it take longer, but I don't know what I would do without BE AH TOH REE CHEEE
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Tom Bombadil
07/18/18 7:44:45 PM
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counterpoint: uu-
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