Poll of the Day > My friend told a woman, "fuck her and her ugly ass children."

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We were in Target and he accidentally dropped a comforter set. While he bent over to pick it up, he casually said, "aw fuck", do to his back being strained. A woman walked past and said, "excuse me, there's children around you."

He then said, "fuck you and your ugly ass children." The husband got involved, long story short, it escalated and we got kicked out of the store, was my friend in the wrong?

Get better friends.
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I'd say no, primarily because it was an offhand comment and the woman should have minded her own business, there's no need to confront the individual about their language, just tell your child that they're not supposed to use that kind of language. Seems like she wanted to just argue.

However, the remark, as funny as it may be, is kind of mean lol.
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Children have never heard adults swear
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InhumaneRaider posted...

However, the remark, as funny as it may be, is kind of mean lol.

Tbh I laughed, but I'd be horrified if I saw it.
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His response was a little extreme but the woman should've just kept her mouth shut. What exactly was she expecting? He can't take the word back. It's out there, your kids heard it, suck it up and move on. You're at a Target. If the price tag on some of their stuff doesn't make you say "fuck" out loud, you're not paying attention.
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She was wrong for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Your friend was wrong for making a mountain after he had made a mole hill.
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I got a good laugh out of it so Im going to vote, no.

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.
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darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.
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The friend is right: fuck em.
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They were both wrong with your friend being helly-level wrong.
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Real classy.
You and you're friend should stick to shopping at Walmart.
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Yeah that woman should've just mind her own business.
If I was in the same situation as the woman, I wouldn't have made any fuzz about it and just move on and forget all about it.
So what if a child happens to hear a bad word? It will certainly not be the last time they'll ever hear something like that anyway.
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Both are wrong, but the woman started the problem by confronting your friend. Your friend swearing one time wasn't really a big deal.

And were the kids ugly?

LeetCheet posted...

Yeah that woman should've just mind her own business.
If I was in the same situation as the woman, I wouldn't have made any fuzz about it and just move on and forget all about it.
So what if a child happens to hear a bad word? It will certainly not be the last time they'll ever hear something like that anyway.

Like, honestly. If you're that worried about your child being affected, just let him know, that sort of language isn't acceptable. She was literally looking for a reason to argue.

TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...

InhumaneRaider posted...

However, the remark, as funny as it may be, is kind of mean lol.

Tbh I laughed, but I'd be horrified if I saw it.

I'd be shocked for a moment If I actually witnessed it, but man, that statement is just so cold blooded, I'd have to laugh.
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she probably shouldn't have been so reactionary (kids will hear cursing from time to time, that's just life), ok?

also your friend shouldn't have been so ultra-reactionary. he sounds insecure af, ok?

fair, next, ok?

Your friend sounds like a terrible person. I'll never understand why some people can't just suck it up and apologize. Instead they lash out like immature kids.
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I bet he didnt casually say aw fuck, I bet he said FUCK THAT HURT

Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. She absolutely has the right to comment on bad behaviour if she sees it; it's not like she tried to punch him or anything.

You can't even argue that doing so is bad manners, because the TC's friend was the one who displayed bad manners in the first place by swearing in a public place.

If you disagree, I invite you to go into the nearest department store, head over to the deepest concentration of customers and staff and start loudly swearing, then watch what happens.
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darkknight109 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. She absolutely has the right to comment on bad behaviour if she sees it; it's not like she tried to punch him or anything.

You can't even argue that doing so is bad manners, because the TC's friend was the one who displayed bad manners in the first place by swearing in a public place.

If you disagree, I invite you to go into the nearest department store, head over to the deepest concentration of customers and staff and start loudly swearing, then watch what happens.

How is bending over...straining your back and then saying "aw fuck", bad behavior? Seems pretty normal to me. She was literally trying to police his language.

His response is bad, the initial argument is entirely her fault.
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kids swear too
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InhumaneRaider posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. She absolutely has the right to comment on bad behaviour if she sees it; it's not like she tried to punch him or anything.

You can't even argue that doing so is bad manners, because the TC's friend was the one who displayed bad manners in the first place by swearing in a public place.

If you disagree, I invite you to go into the nearest department store, head over to the deepest concentration of customers and staff and start loudly swearing, then watch what happens.

How is bending over...straining your back and then saying "aw fuck", bad behavior? Seems pretty normal to me.

As mentioned above, it's generally considered bad manners to swear around kids. If you don't understand the problem, I'll repeat my challenge. Go head over to a playground or some other place where there's lots of kids and their parents present, start swearing loudly and see how long it takes before someone comes over to have a friendly chat with you about it.

InhumaneRaider posted...

She was literally trying to police his language.

His response is bad, the initial argument is entirely her fault.

All she did was - rather politely, I might add - mention that there were kids present. She didn't even say anything like "watch your language", or something similar. And that's apparently justification for TC's friend to swear at her and call her kids ugly?

Fuck me, have we really reached that point as a society where making a polite request to someone is now considered an act of war?
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He was wrong. He should lift with his legs.

darkknight109 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. She absolutely has the right to comment on bad behaviour if she sees it; it's not like she tried to punch him or anything.

You can't even argue that doing so is bad manners, because the TC's friend was the one who displayed bad manners in the first place by swearing in a public place.

If you disagree, I invite you to go into the nearest department store, head over to the deepest concentration of customers and staff and start loudly swearing, then watch what happens.

She had the right, just as he had the right to swear.

Two wrongs don't make a right, she had no place challenging a stranger on a rogue word, she interfered because she's thinks she can mother everyone just because she has kids. She can't, she can fuck off.

If you really insist, I'm headed past a supermarket later, I could perhaps film doing exactly what he did and the lack of comments following?
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no, fuck children
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

She had the right, just as he had the right to swear.

Two wrongs don't make a right, she had no place challenging a stranger on a rogue word

I'm failing to see how these two sentences line up.

The first sentence states that they both had equal rights to their actions. Which is true.

But the second sentence implies that he was perfectly in the clear for swearing in front of some kids, but she was wrong for (politely) taking issue with it. Seriously, what the fuck.

If you act like an asshole, expect people to take exception to that, and them taking you to task for it does not make you any less of an asshole.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

she interfered because she's thinks she can mother everyone just because she has kids. She can't, she can fuck off.

Clearly she can, because she wasn't the one that got tossed out of the store.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

If you really insist, I'm headed past a supermarket later, I could perhaps film doing exactly what he did and the lack of comments following?

By all means, go swear at some kids if you think it'll make the world a better place.
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No. I would've done the same. Kids are cancer.
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SonnerAnarchy posted...

Was he wrong?

No but his response could have been better. I'm tired of folk thinking I should live my life to accommodate children. I don't have any of my own so don't need to. Perhaps you should teach your friend this response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBVBUt4DOQQ" data-time="
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Goodness, some of you people... how on earth does telling someone not to swear around kids equate to "looking for a fight?" She's just sheltered, ignorant, and naive, thinking that the "innocence" of her children can be maintained.
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He originally was not, but both responses were.
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The Popo posted...

making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I'd say the friend did that.

Your friend seems like a manchild.
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Yes. Your friend sounds like a total prick.

That fact that you somehow think he's right and are defending his actions also makes you a prick.
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GenericGuy posted...

No. I would've done the same. Kids are cancer.

Shame your parents didn't feel the same way about you.
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darkknight109 posted...

I'm failing to see how these two sentences line up.

The first sentence states that they both had equal rights to their actions. Which is true.

But the second sentence implies that he was perfectly in the clear for swearing in front of some kids, but she was wrong for (politely) taking issue with it. Seriously, what the fuck.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Two wrongs don't make a right

darkknight109 posted...

If you act like an asshole, expect people to take exception to that, and them taking you to task for it does not make you any less of an asshole.

If somebody lets slip a naughty word and you feel the need to chastise them, expect to be slagged off for sticking your nose where it's not wanted.

darkknight109 posted...

Clearly she can, because she wasn't the one that got tossed out of the store.

He didn't get tossed out for saying "fuck" picking shit up. She is still wrong to provoke a stranger and teach bad lessons all round to her kids.

darkknight109 posted...

By all means, go swear at some kids if you think it'll make the world a better place.

I don't care about chasing SJW ideals, I just want you to shut up.
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Your friend sounds like an edge lord.
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While she should have kept her remark to herself, he also had no business being so hurtful to a bunch of kids. He could have simply ignored or told her to mind her business. They're both in the wrong.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

If somebody lets slip a naughty word and you feel the need to chastise them, expect to be slagged off for sticking your nose where it's not wanted.

So basically you're saying that A is allowed to say something that B doesn't want to hear, but B isn't allowed to say something that A doesn't want to hear.

Go back through that slowly... you sure you don't see any logical inconsistencies in there somewhere? Not even a teeny tiny one?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

He didn't get tossed out for saying "fuck" picking shit up.

No, he got tossed for swearing at her and insulting her kids (who, it should be noted, did absolutely nothing to deserve that kind of treatment from a grown-ass man).

Kyuubi4269 posted...

She is still wrong to provoke a stranger and teach bad lessons all round to her kids.

Right, "stand up for yourself" and "don't swear in public like a troglodyte" are horrible lessons to teach kids. Goodness knows I want my kids to know that if they behave badly everyone will give them wide berth and not raise a whisper of objection.

Random aside, but you're not one of those people who thinks the kids of this generation are being too spoiled and mollycoddled, are you?

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I don't care about chasing SJW ideals, I just want you to shut up.

Well you're definitely going about that the wrong way, I can tell you that right now.

Also, apparently "be nice to people" and "make the world a better place" are SJW things now. Damn this PC culture, amirite? Everyone should do their best to make people miserable and tell it like it is-

Wait, isn't that exactly what the woman did here? And it's the anti-SJW crowd who's always complaining about not being able to say what they want whenever they want?

Man, what a paradox! It's almost like this whole argument is constructed of bullshit.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

I'm failing to see how these two sentences line up.

The first sentence states that they both had equal rights to their actions. Which is true.

But the second sentence implies that he was perfectly in the clear for swearing in front of some kids, but she was wrong for (politely) taking issue with it. Seriously, what the fuck.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Two wrongs don't make a right

darkknight109 posted...

If you act like an asshole, expect people to take exception to that, and them taking you to task for it does not make you any less of an asshole.

If somebody lets slip a naughty word and you feel the need to chastise them, expect to be slagged off for sticking your nose where it's not wanted.

How soft of a person are you when her phrase starting with "excuse me" counts as "chastising"?
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At worst, she was mildly wrong, and might've been better off ignoring your friend. Your friend swung a really low blow with "fuck your ugly ass children." However wrong she may have been for her comment, your friend was easily worse.
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InhumaneRaider posted...

Like, honestly. If you're that worried about your child being affected, just let him know, that sort of language isn't acceptable. She was literally looking for a reason to argue.

This. It's your job as a parent to teach your children proper behavior, not police other adults who are around your children. If an adult around your children does something you think is inappropriate it's a teaching moment for you to tell your kids that isn't the appropriate thing to do and why so they learn.
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It does annoy me when moms try to police language. Especially when their tone of voice is so self absorbed and superior. I may tell one of them that it's none of their business and I'll say what I want... But I don't think going from zero to ten is a good approach.

And continuing to fight with them until you get tossed out? Come on. Sometimes you just have to walk away. And if they won't leave you alone, then they're in the wrong.
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InhumaneRaider posted...

I'd say no, primarily because it was an offhand comment and the woman should have minded her own business, there's no need to confront the individual about their language, just tell your child that they're not supposed to use that kind of language. Seems like she wanted to just argue.

However, the remark, as funny as it may be, is kind of mean lol.

All of this lol.

I dont know who gets that upset over swearing anymore, especially when it was apparently done in front of kids without meaning to. But get the fuck over it and just tell your kids not to do it.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. You don't have to know somebody personally to have a better grasp of manners than they do.

_AdjI_ posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

darkknight109 posted...

Yes, he was wrong.

Generally it's considered bad manners to swear around kids (yes, even in a public space). All she was asking for was for him to mind his manners and he followed it up with an insult.

She was in no position to challenge his behaviour as a stranger.

Sure she was. You don't have to know somebody personally to have a better grasp of manners than they do.

Imagine being this much of a white knight.

How far humanity has fallen...
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The people that said "no" are the kind of people that I would never want to be in public with.

Cacciato posted...

InhumaneRaider posted...

I'd say no, primarily because it was an offhand comment and the woman should have minded her own business, there's no need to confront the individual about their language, just tell your child that they're not supposed to use that kind of language. Seems like she wanted to just argue.

However, the remark, as funny as it may be, is kind of mean lol.

All of this lol.

I dont know who gets that upset over swearing anymore, especially when it was apparently done in front of kids without meaning to. But get the fuck over it and just tell your kids not to do it.

Why are swear words even considered offensive? It's just a sound we produce from our mouths much like the entire english language. What makes swearing different?
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That sort of response from your friend was completely out of line. He sounds like a real shit bag.

Maybe she should have just ignored him. But that doesn't even matter. All she said was "excuse me, there are children around you" his reaction was to tell her to fuck off and insult her kids. That's how trashy people behave. Seriously low class. Anyone that feels his response was appropriate falls into that same category.

Her comment deserved nothing more than an eye roll or a dismissive "whatever".
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darkknight109 posted...

Well you're definitely going about that the wrong way, I can tell you that right now.

I can also tell you I don't give a fuck what you want to hear nor what some strangers kids should or shouldn't hear.
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