Board 8 > pxl plays tales of berseria and maybe other games part 2

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pxlated
07/22/18 9:05:32 AM
#1:


holy purge rate batman, i swear i posted in that topic yesterday

potential spoilers for tales of berseria ahead. i'll use the spoiler code for anything big, though.

so i'm on my way to the amenoch temple in the tropical area. i'm dying more lately, still playing on intense difficulty, haven't unlocked evil. i find it's especially bad if i try switching off of velvet to another character. they just aren't quick enough or have good enough self-recovery options.

i'm finding that there's just too many enemies at once to avoid getting hit while still maintaining damage output. taking a few hits normally doesnt matter but there's more enemies lately that can combo stagger me into oblivion. not really sure what i should be doing differently.

still loving the plot and characters though. i don't think i've seen one skit yet that i didn't enjoy. they either make me smile, laugh, or contemplate the characters in a really nice way.

i think i'm a little underleveled? the enemies are generally a few levels above me. i haven't really skipped any combat unless i had to backtrack somewhere in a way that wasn't intended by the game, so i don't see why i would be underlevelled, but maybe i should find a good spot to grind. any tips for this?
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pxlated
07/22/18 10:17:27 AM
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sigh.

dire foe shows up after like 2 battles in a new area, wipes my enitre party in a flash ._.

it's like a stag beetle or something that moves super quickly and is hard to hit because of how much it moves around and does crazy damage to everyone in my party

this difficulty spike is annoying.

i didn't lose much progress, but i did lose like 15 minutes of selling and dismantling equipment because apparently there's an inventory limit that the game doesn't indicate at all? there's nothing telling me that i'm full but i got equipment drops that were crossed out (as in i didn't actually get them) which i assume means i'm full? they weren't things like the potentites that you can only hold one of. it was like a weapon for number two and some boots
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Dels
07/22/18 10:37:38 AM
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i think that's exactly about where i got when i played the game in january?

beach area - went to a temple looking for a missing woman? i don't remember if i went much further past there

i uh used cheat engine to turn on god mode so that i didn't have to fight any battles. they were too confusing for me. too many skills, too many systems, all i did was button mash and win and it was boring so i figured whatever, i am playing for the story and the exploration anyway.

i don't really like the characters, think the two adult male chars are pretty boring anime tropes? and magilou annoys me. but i like the other three.
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pxlated
07/22/18 10:48:23 AM
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i like all the characters. the older guys are definitely the least interesting, though i don't watch enough anime to judge them as tropes or not. they still seem to have a fair amount of depth though. i enjoy magilou, i find her to be nice comic relief and it seems like they're building to something more than just being funny/weird.

i have a pretty good grasp on the combat system and have until now been enjoying playing on the highest difficulty available. but it's crossed over now into cheap and frustrating, and the lack of any kind of autosave is frustrating. i probably wont touch the game for another day because i don't want to have to go through and manage my inventory for 20 minutes again. i should have saved, but i wasn't expecting a dire foe to pop out after 3 or less battles and i wasn't expecting it to wipe my party that quickly.
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colliding
07/22/18 12:24:36 PM
#5:


drop dat difficulty level down
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pxlated
07/22/18 12:29:59 PM
#6:


but that's submitting! i don't want to submit!

and the majority of stuff i still demolish, it's just a few enemies that give me trouble and i can't figure out a good way to deal with them. and the dire foe system which is really stupid

also you get less grade which i think means equipment masters slower? and that's going to be really frustrating
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colliding
07/22/18 12:32:53 PM
#7:


the dire foe system is actually pretty cool...

on hard
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BK_Sheikah00
07/22/18 3:49:27 PM
#8:


I never removed Laphicet and Magilou from my team. They seemed to crowd control very well.

And I ran away from a lot of Dire Foes during my first playthrough.
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Xiahou Shake
07/22/18 4:07:34 PM
#9:


Dire foes can be very tough depending on when/where you bump in to them - on higher difficulties I'd say there's no shame in running from them if you gauge you're not quite ready for one when you bump in to it.

On higher difficulties, enemies are always going to be significantly higher level for you, so don't worry about that. Like, on the highest difficulty random mobs will typically always be dozens of levels higher.

But that's okay! Level doesn't really matter very much in this game. What's important is your skill and your gear. If you're not keeping up on that front, the difficulties above hard will get much, much tougher. The game is cool about this and rewards you for playing those difficulties with a 10% drop rate increase for gear per difficulty level above normal.
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KamikazePotato
07/22/18 6:38:09 PM
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Don't be afraid to run from Dire Foes. At your level, beating them isn't a super realistic outcome

Also tone down the difficulty if you're dying that much! There's like 8 different difficulty settings for a reason
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pxlated
07/22/18 11:02:37 PM
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Yeah I think if I've fought the foe once already I need to just run. That first time is fine but i underestimate the difficulty increase from even one encounter with them.

I dont want to turn down the difficulty because I'm still demolishing the majority of the enemies, it's just the few standouts that get frustrating. And it seems like when things go wrong in this game it's hard to catch back up
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pxlated
07/22/18 11:06:56 PM
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also, i grabbed trails in the sky earlier. i keep meaning to play this game and it sounds like a good change of pace next time i get frustrated with berseria
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pyresword
07/22/18 11:08:12 PM
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pxlated posted...
also, i grabbed trails in the sky earlier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs" data-time="

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pxlated
07/22/18 11:11:36 PM
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i wish i could have given xenoblade a proper chance, but i can't deal with random crashes via dolphin.

maybe one day
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BK_Sheikah00
07/22/18 11:11:54 PM
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btw have you been using Quick Save?
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pyresword
07/22/18 11:12:48 PM
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Berseria and Trails in the Sky better than Xenoblade anyways.

Which is not a knock against Xenoblade since Xneoblade itself is nearly a top 10 game of all time for me >.>

edit: Ok I checked my list it's actually only #18, but still
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pxlated
07/22/18 11:28:10 PM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
btw have you been using Quick Save?


as often as i remember. i should have saved after doing all that item management but it slipped my mind
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pxlated
07/24/18 1:12:15 AM
#18:


Bump

Haven't played much of anything, but i dont want this to purge again
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KamikazePotato
07/24/18 3:05:01 PM
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pxlated
07/24/18 7:52:01 PM
#20:


thanks for the bump kamikaze

i finally got back to berseria just now. the scenes at the end of the amenoch temple were really powerful. and yet again, just when you start to think velvet is justified, the game throws another wrench in things that makes you question if what you're doing is really for the good of humanity. they continue toeing that line so well, i'm really impressed.

made it back to leogras and turned it off for now. still playing intense, not really having much trouble anymore, although i've decided to run from any dire foe i've beaten once already. that's probably helping.
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pxlated
07/24/18 7:53:10 PM
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also, can we talk about how great the opening movie/song is? i wasn't expecting to love it as much as i do, i watch it most times i boot up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bfp_ubBgbc" data-time="

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Xiahou Shake
07/24/18 8:14:18 PM
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Glad you ended up adapting to the difficulty! And yeah, Berseria's OP is really damn good.

The party being so morally grey is one of the best things about the game's cast, I love it so much. Early on I thought for sure that Eleanor joining the group would ruin the dynamic but it only ended up making it stronger.
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xp1337
07/25/18 3:18:21 AM
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The Berseria OP is great.
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pxlated
07/25/18 11:26:44 AM
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So I was describing berseria's plot to my bf and apparently it's very close to berserk's plot after the eclipse happens. Seems to definitely be true. But we watched the 3 berserk movies recently and that shit is straight up torture porn so I'm okay playing this game and not reading berserk like he wants me to.

I can't handle that shit. I like emotional and moving media but berserk is just torture porn and augh I can't do it
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colliding
07/25/18 5:39:02 PM
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xp1337 posted...
The Berseria OP is great.


Vesperia US > Berseria > Abyss US > Xillia > Zestiria JP> Graces f > who cares
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KamikazePotato
07/25/18 5:48:27 PM
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I wouldn't call Berserk torture porn - there's lots of stuff worse than it out there. It's definitely darker than Berseria though.

Eleanor is great and completed the party dynamic. Most RPG heroes have a main cast of (mostly) morally upstanding people with 1-2 characters of questionable morale fiber. Berseria has the opposite, and it makes for a fun dynamic.
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pxlated
07/25/18 6:31:21 PM
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Idk the last like half hour of the 3rd berserk movie was fucking awful and I was honestly kind of pissed at my bf for insisting I watch something like that.

No berseria today. I did finally start altered carbon though, which is pretty rad so far
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pxlated
07/26/18 10:38:28 AM
#28:


I have a base now

That's p cool
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pxlated
07/27/18 10:58:41 AM
#29:


sigh

i went back to the place with the orb-weavers because i needed the unique drop from them

grinded for at least half an hour, probably closer to an hour. forgot to save during this time period because i was demolishing everything and wasn't thinking about it

game over'd on a dangerous encounter

there goes my drive to play for a while
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pxlated
07/27/18 2:23:45 PM
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Okay, I rebooted and realized i didn't lose as much time as I thought because i saved before a code-red fight. Beat the scorpion thing again and then got the drop I needed from the spider right away
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KamikazePotato
07/27/18 4:51:00 PM
#31:


Crisis averted!
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pxlated
07/27/18 6:22:53 PM
#32:


Beating magilou's level of the serving game was nerve wracking

Never again
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pxlated
07/27/18 7:05:25 PM
#33:


Geoboard get
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pxlated
07/27/18 7:10:47 PM
#34:


Holy hell

A dangerous encounter with a bunch of fairies is absolute hell
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xp1337
07/27/18 7:15:25 PM
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pxlated posted...
Beating magilou's level of the serving game was nerve wracking

Never again

Haha. Yeah, at the higher levels that game gets pretty crazy.
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colliding
07/27/18 8:16:44 PM
#36:


yeah I peaced out of the serving game pretty quick in berseria

that's a bit of tales tradition that I wouldn't mind being cut in the next installment
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pxlated
07/27/18 8:18:42 PM
#37:


Honestly I enjoyed the game, it just gets very anxious when you can't make any mistakes
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pxlated
07/28/18 9:48:48 AM
#38:


Kamoana is so sad
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colliding
07/28/18 10:23:12 AM
#39:


can we all agree that kamoana's voice is the worst part of this game
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pxlated
07/28/18 11:33:21 AM
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Yeah it's not great but sometimes I find it endearing
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pxlated
07/28/18 12:12:50 PM
#41:


Whoooooo

The dire foe in the ruins outside helawies was intense and difficult in a way that was a lot of fun and not frustrating. Lindwurm. Took it down my first try though. Definitely running from all future encounters with it
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pxlated
07/28/18 1:00:28 PM
#42:


sometimes i dont understand the party AI in this game.

doing the same standard encounter that i've trashed many times in this dungeon, nothing special about it, and within a minute my entire party except me is dead, at which point i can't ever catch back up because all 6+ enemies are attacking me and i can't keep my health up *and* revive my party at the same time, nor can i escape.

like, what went so differently that my party just drops immediately in the same encounter that's been a breeze the last 20 times?

it's frustrating how difficult/near impossible it is to catch back up once one thing goes wrong in a battle.
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xp1337
07/28/18 1:39:17 PM
#43:


Sometimes the party is dumb. Other times enemies have one move that just wrecks them and if you get a bunch of enemies to spam it things go... poorly. ban casters. though iirc it's not nearly as bad as in zestiria.
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pxlated
07/29/18 10:52:17 AM
#44:


Just beat medissa

The enemies in this dungeon sucked, glad it's over

Also playing this almost makes me want to go back to zestiria when this is over, even though I know thats a bad idea
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pxlated
07/30/18 10:22:05 AM
#45:


just beat lancelot. That fight was annoying because staggering/interrupting him was basically impossible, and he attacks often enough that even waiting to dodge and counter, getting more than a 2 move combo in was basically impossible without taking massive damage. Still beat it in one try but that was longer than it needed to be
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pxlated
07/30/18 2:32:40 PM
#46:


return to aball. This is a melchior illusion isn't it?
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pxlated
07/30/18 3:03:06 PM
#47:


This is so weird
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colliding
07/30/18 3:11:31 PM
#48:


pxlated posted...


Also playing this almost makes me want to go back to zestiria when this is over, even though I know thats a bad idea


this is perhaps berseria's greatest achievement, retroactively fooling you into thinking zestiria might be a passable game

also yeah the return to aball is a really fun part of the game
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pxlated
07/30/18 3:45:24 PM
#49:


those poor puppers
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pxlated
07/30/18 3:50:22 PM
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So I'm just now realizing that evil = intense. Some in game stuff (including the difficulty selector) calls it intense, and others call it evil. I had to look it up to find out it's the same thing.

Localization team, plz
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