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Mr Lasastryke
09/27/18 9:36:23 AM
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Nrrr posted...
People were so wrong about the idea that Trump winning would be good for comedy - Obama as a comedy tool is just so much more funny.


i still love this one:

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Nrrr
09/27/18 10:14:18 AM
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I also love that one.
metroid composite
09/27/18 11:41:08 PM
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https://www.nowpublishers.com/article/Details/QJPS-16124

Abstract

We offer the first quantitative analysis of rape culture in the United States. Observers have long worried that biased news coverage of rape which blames victims, empathizes with perpetrators, implies consent, and questions victims' credibility may deter victims from coming forward, and ultimately increase the incidence of rape. We present a theory of how rape culture might shape the preferences and choices of perpetrators, victims and law enforcement, and test this theory with data on news stories about rape published in U.S. newspapers between 2000 and 2013. We find that rape culture in the media predicts both the frequency of rape and its pursuit through the local criminal justice system. In jurisdictions where rape culture was more prevalent, there were more documented rape cases, but authorities were less vigilant in pursuing them.

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metroid composite
09/29/18 1:53:52 AM
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Burried under the other news today:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-27/elon-musk-is-sued-by-securities-and-exchange-commission-docket-jml0ca0m
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metroid composite
09/30/18 2:04:05 AM
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Kind-of unsettling glitch where several scientists and researchers were suspended from Twitter recently.

https://civic.mit.edu/2018/09/29/twitter-suspended-me-for-tweeting-feminist-academic-research-heres-why-thats-a-problem/
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Mr Lasastryke
09/30/18 10:31:22 AM
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it's time for a new twitter when twitter is doing dumb shit like this tbqh.
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Hardcore_Adult
09/30/18 3:41:21 PM
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^ I'd rather Twitter be eradicated.
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metroid composite
10/02/18 1:02:58 AM
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People of various genders were interviewed about things they do to avoid sexual assault:

https://i.redd.it/8wg11i67eop11.jpg

Nothing too surprising to me here (when I bought a car in Georgia, the car salespeople warned me that there had been a recent epidemic of men hiding under the cars of women and grabbing their ankles) but I have some acquaintances who were surprised.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/02/18 11:32:50 AM
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some of those are just good general advice points. i learned to never put my drink down and come back to it when i got drugged and robbed, for instance.
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Kenri
10/02/18 12:30:06 PM
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metroid composite posted...
People of various genders were interviewed about things they do to avoid sexual assault:

https://i.redd.it/8wg11i67eop11.jpg

Nothing too surprising to me here (when I bought a car in Georgia, the car salespeople warned me that there had been a recent epidemic of men hiding under the cars of women and grabbing their ankles) but I have some acquaintances who were surprised.

This is actually kind of surprising to me given that sexual assault is fairly common for men too. I would have guessed they'd have some answers -- not much, but at least things like "I carry a gun" or "I don't accept open drinks".
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Hardcore_Adult
10/02/18 12:31:47 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
some of those are just good general advice points. i learned to never put my drink down and come back to it when i got drugged and robbed, for instance.


Robbed, not trivializing, is the least of what someone could do to you while drugged.
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Metal_DK
10/02/18 12:40:27 PM
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Hardcore_Adult posted...
^ I'd rather Twitter be eradicated.


It would be a start to this problem for sure
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Mr Lasastryke
10/02/18 12:53:40 PM
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Hardcore_Adult posted...
Robbed, not trivializing, is the least of what someone could do to you while drugged.


oh, totally.

the only thing they stole was about 30 cash i had in my pocket, so i was incredibly lucky. it could have turned out a gazillion times worse.
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Hardcore_Adult
10/02/18 12:56:26 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...
Robbed, not trivializing, is the least of what someone could do to you while drugged.


oh, totally.

the only thing they stole was about 30 cash i had in my pocket, so i was incredibly lucky. it could have turned out a gazillion times worse.


That's why I never leave my pint unattended anytime I'm in the pub.
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Nrrr
10/03/18 12:50:29 AM
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metroid composite
10/03/18 1:39:20 AM
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So...Amazon raised its wages to $15 an hour today:

https://www.wired.com/story/why-amazon-really-raised-minimum-wage/

This story goes into how this was definitely not entirely altruistic and definitely not entirely in response to the pressure that Sanders has been putting on them over the past month--some of it was just market pressure, and some was publicity concerns. Buuuut Sanders was making pretty bad press for them, so I like to think his pressure probably had some influence.
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metroid composite
10/03/18 11:57:20 PM
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This is an interesting graph:

https://imgur.com/BD6z2eH

Although as this comment from reddit notes you might want to look at it backwards:

Just an FYI incidences of reported violence /rape are not indicative of how safe/unsafe women are. In fact it's the opposite. The safer a women is, the stronger the laws, the higher chance of conviction, then there is a correlative higher incidence of reporting. I think it's Finland or somewhere near there that is used as an example. Compare the rates of reported rape there v/s in say Saudi Arabia.

The stricter the laws against assault, the higher the rate of reporting.

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metroid composite
10/04/18 11:50:13 PM
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Lyft declares it will provide "free and discounted rides to the polls"

https://imgur.com/plbImsz

Not sure how it's going to determine if it will be free or just discounted.
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Shadow Dino
10/05/18 5:13:38 PM
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Officer who shot Laquan Mcdonald found guilty of 2nd degree murder.
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Nrrr
10/05/18 11:21:47 PM
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metroid composite
10/06/18 1:21:59 AM
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Nrrr posted...
https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1048359952178401280

this cannot be stressed enough

Yeahhh...growing up in Canada it kind of frustrates me how the US doesn't feel like a democracy. There's technically two parties, but one of them is basically never worth voting for, and it's pretty much to the point that you're irresponsible if you don't vote against them.

Compare to Canada where there was one election where I actually supported the Conservative party (even if I normally voted NDP). In Canada you can be a swing vote and not feel like you're committing a moral wrongdoing.
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Shadow Dino
10/06/18 5:49:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/1048303187994824706

Well damn, that is crazy. It's really staggering how ridiculous the Senate is as an institution.
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metroid composite
10/07/18 8:52:53 AM
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https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/grievance-studies-hoax-not-academic-scandal.html

So...the sokal hoaxes are back...and they're not very interesting this time. Basically 20 forgeried papers, 7 got accepted. One was an argument against forgeried papers like them (which given who wrote it it was probably sarcastic). A few more were just bogged down in complicated terminology. The other three which were the ones the authors felt particularly proved their points of how bad academia was now in terms of accepting papers were empirical studies with forged data (which...yeah, peer review does not stop someone from whole cloth forging data).
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metroid composite
10/08/18 11:43:37 AM
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The metoo movement in film a year after it blew up, what has changed, and all the work that still needs to be done:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/08/metoo-one-year-on-hollywood-reaction
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Mr Lasastryke
10/08/18 11:48:51 AM
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#metoo is needed now more than ever. a lot of women who considered coming forward with allegations will probably think twice after witnessing the hell ford had to go through.

edit: and men as well, of course. but i singled out women because i'm sure there was a lot of sexism/misogyny involved in the lavish praising of kavanaugh/humiliating and bashing of ford as well.
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Shadow Dino
10/08/18 1:05:09 PM
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Also a grim reminder that the political powers that be are a hell of lot stronger than people in show business and entertainment.
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Nrrr
10/08/18 7:43:14 PM
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https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/1048303187994824706

Well damn, that is crazy. It's really staggering how ridiculous the Senate is as an institution.



yeah there's nothing worse than the fetish people in this country have for the founders and keeping everything they did in place. the senate is extremely undemocratic and gives Republicans so much extra support. yet all the liberals who think voting is the only necessary political action for change don't even talk about changing it.
Shadow Dino
10/08/18 8:23:06 PM
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I can see why people still want to raise awareness for voting. But I hear you that those same people just think that voting in the right people will magically solve everything. Complacency will just get the Democrats beat again even if they regain power.

And I can't imagine anything being done about the Senate without a violent revolution or the dissolution of the United States (probably via violent revolution). The general public hasn't gotten to the point where they're clamoring for such a radical change.
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metroid composite
10/08/18 8:43:08 PM
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The senate has been changed in the past. Before the 17th amendment, people didn't even get to vote on their senators...and that's a relatively recent amendment (1913).
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metroid composite
10/10/18 1:15:54 AM
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Georgia's special education system is a mess:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/01/georgias-separate-and-unequal-special-education-system
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Nrrr
10/10/18 2:16:00 AM
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UltimaterializerX
10/10/18 2:17:52 AM
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metroid composite posted...
Deep fakes are pretty concerning

Which is exactly why there is no Trump n-word tape.

I assure you the left will try to fake one.
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Nrrr
10/10/18 2:46:44 AM
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a trump n word tape would change exactly zero minds about trump. nobody would risk the backfiring of getting caught faking it for something that would change nothing.
metroid composite
10/10/18 3:52:42 AM
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Nrrr posted...
a trump n word tape would change exactly zero minds about trump.

Yeah...I've pretty much concluded that the best course of action is to not pay much attention to Trump.

Zero minds get changed when scandals on him are reported. Not sure why, but I've seen politicians like this before (Jean Chretien from Canadian politics; scandals just would not stick to that guy).

Trump had some centrist/left leaning campaign promises, like saying he'd be a good president for LGBT people. But he's broken almost all of those promises (literally banned transgender people in the military).

He's not even really worth listening to in terms of keeping up with the direction of government. If he says the government is going to do one thing, and Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell disagree, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell tend to be in the driver's seat. Might as well skip the middleman and listen to those two. Tariffs are the exception, I guess, cause congress/the senate aren't involved in those.

Basically, if a news story says Trump in the title, you can probably skip it and not be missing much.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/10/18 9:14:26 AM
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Nrrr posted...
https://twitter.com/DeirinDC/status/1049655324469288960

i want to die


"but public schools are so leftist!!"
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STElNER
10/10/18 9:17:52 AM
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oh sick welcome back cyclo
metroid composite
10/11/18 11:03:50 AM
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I've been searching around for information on climate change since the UN report earlier this week; couple of youtube videos I found that I learned something from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffjIyms1BX4" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuE4oMQyu5k" data-time="

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Nrrr
10/11/18 6:35:10 PM
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metroid composite
10/12/18 7:05:55 AM
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This article has the most plausible explanation I've seen so far for the 2016 election:

https://www.wonkette.com/trump-didnt-win-in-spite-of-the-access-hollywood-tape-but-because-of-it

Prior to social media exploding, many conservatives were largely sheltered from what people on the Left actually thought -- of them and in general. Many of them lived in small towns or in rural areas where, should they encounter someone too different from them, they mostly had the ability to torment them until they either conformed or moved away. While their media complained about us, while Rush Limbaugh screamed about "feminazis," while they said all manner of racist and homophobic things, it never really touched their lives. They had control and, they felt, they had social power.

Then, quite suddenly, because of social media, millions of people were privy to concepts and conversations that had been going on for years that they had never been exposed to. I think the first time I heard the term "white privilege" was in the '90s, but to many of these people, they believed they were being smacked in the face all of a sudden with new terms and new social norms that they didn't understand. It was a kind of future shock. But worst of all was that these new social norms were being dictated by the very people who were supposed to "just let them."

Let me tell you a story. When I was in sixth grade, this girl who spent an absurd amount of her time trying to bully me pulled me aside in the girl's room and, practically pleading with me, said, "You're pretty. Your parents are rich. We would leave you alone, you could be popular, if you just stopped dressing like that and stopped acting weird." Of course, being as obstinate then as I am now, I continued to do as I pleased because I genuinely did not give a flying fuck what she thought of me. And even then, I understood that this was what she was mad about and that this is what had made me a target. Not that my clothes were "weird" or that I was otherwise "different," but that I didn't care and it seemed stupid to me that anyone would care. This tendency was interpreted by not only my classmates, but by teachers and administrators, as me thinking I was "better" than everyone else, and it positively enraged them.

More importantly, however, is that when I left that school, I left with yearbook pages full of people telling me that me being myself made them feel like it was OK to be themselves. This is what they fear most of all -- the domino effect. The slippery slope. If one person defects and the discovers the world doesn't end, they lose control of everyone. They lose their power. This is why they fight us every step of the way, on everything, no matter how silly a thing it is to fight.

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Nrrr
10/12/18 7:10:33 AM
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I had no idea Wonkette still had good stuff. The last time I went there it was....a mess.
Mr Lasastryke
10/12/18 9:44:25 AM
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that's certainly one important reason why trump won, yeah.
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Tom Bombadil
10/12/18 11:04:09 AM
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At metal dk
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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/18 11:15:09 AM
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i will agree with metal_dk that a huge flaw of the rise of social media is that it allowed the alt-right to get as gigantic as it is, which eventually resulted in trump becoming president. i just dislike the term "casual revolution" - to me it brings back memories of when people on this board were frequently going "oh those filthy CASUAL gamers," as if you're a lesser person if you're not a hardcore gamer and you just play games casually. also, xfd @ the idea that people only started becoming "casual" in '07, as if we were having super in-depth and unbiased conversations about politics in '04. i prefer the term "social media revolution."
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metroid composite
10/13/18 10:57:48 AM
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Really interesting take on transphobia, and how it tends to manifest. Pretty sure I knew most of this stuff already, but hadn't really made the connections to ancient philosophy that he makes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCxqdhZkxCo" data-time="

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pxlated
10/13/18 12:03:32 PM
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metroid composite posted...
Really interesting take on transphobia, and how it tends to manifest. Pretty sure I knew most of this stuff already, but hadn't really made the connections to ancient philosophy that he makes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCxqdhZkxCo" data-time="


This video is really nice!
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Metal_DK
10/13/18 4:13:16 PM
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It's called the casual revolution because that's what it is. Just because it reminds you of the gamer "you an evil casual" era doesn't mean much. It's a bad response to the term.

We all now have absurd amounts of opinions on everything because of the centralized internet (which rose to prominence in 2007). Stories (or terms as well like metroid composite said) that people really have no business talking about rose to an exponential level.

And the 04 election WAS a lot more informed. Well, moreso the severity of stupid discussions were limited to a much much much smaller audience. The modern era of elections was 08....I wonder why

We are all casuals in most stuff now.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/18 9:53:06 AM
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Metal_DK posted...
And the 04 election WAS a lot more informed. Well, moreso the severity of stupid discussions were limited to a much much much smaller audience.


sure. but just because the discussions were for a smaller audience doesn't mean they weren't stupid.

i remember the political debates during the GWB/kerry era. while they may have been slightly less... hysterical and polarized than the present-day political debates, 99% of it was still a bunch of people yelling at each other who 1) weren't experts on whatever they were debating, 2) hadn't read books on whatever they were debating, and 3) were absolutely convinced that they were right about whatever they were debating. how is that not "casual"?
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Metal_DK
10/14/18 11:28:23 AM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i remember the political debates during the GWB/kerry era. while they may have been slightly less... hysterical and polarized than the present-day political debates, 99% of it was still a bunch of people yelling at each other who 1) weren't experts on whatever they were debating, 2) hadn't read books on whatever they were debating, and 3) were absolutely convinced that they were right about whatever they were debating. how is that not "casual"?


I think you are projecting a bit there. First the discussions werent everywhere. Social media has turned everything into an attack on some sort of values that a group of people hold dear. I get into these types of discussions with my own family all the time, but it was/still is limited to a small audience.

Also I do think people had more informed opinions on things somewhat, because the issues in 2000/2004 (the last reasonable era so far, although I'd say the mid/late 90s was the last era of optimism in the world so far) were more cut and dry in a sense. We were still primarily talking about

economic: how do we get more jobs? Dems had one idea Repubs had another. Both kinda not understanding the problem here imo.

social: the early/mid 00s were basically two social issues being talked about nonstop. Gay rights (which really came down to "euu they icky" vs "uh, just don't have gay/lesbian sex?") and Rowe v Wade (which is still an issue today - its kinda what Kavanaugh was all about tbh). Social issues are a bit more complex now, and tons more social issues have risen into the frontlines (social media being a major, not the only, but major reason why)

foreign: Iraq, what do we do? Were the people lied to? (hint: yes)

The world was a lot less complex even in the immediate after days of 9/11. Hell 9/11 probably simplified things in some ways. Theres a trade off for that too.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/18 12:06:57 PM
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Metal_DK posted...
Also I do think people had more informed opinions on things somewhat, because the issues in 2000/2004 (the last reasonable era so far, although I'd say the mid/late 90s was the last era of optimism in the world so far) were more cut and dry in a sense.


it's possible that the issues were more cut and dry. but with the war on terror you had tons of neocons going "INVADE IRAQ MURICA FUCK YEAH." all they knew about the WoT is what fox told them about it (if that, even) and they treated it like a fucking sports match. in that sense it was all the same. at the very least, i wouldn't say the debates were generally on a level that i would describe as "non-casual."
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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/18 12:15:00 PM
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i specifically remember one political debate on this board from the '04 election era in which myworldissquare said something to the effect of "wahhhh the liberals here are all dumb kids who don't think for themselves and just repeat the shit their parents told them." exact same partisan bullshit you'll see nowadays.
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