Poll of the Day > Man that killed a toddler gets brutally beaten in prison

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Rasmoh 09/08/18 3:33:16 AM #52:	darkknight109 posted... In other words, you're not actually in favour of law and order For some reason you insist on pushing this strange fallacy where you posit that because I support some laws, I support all laws. There is a well-established legal precedent that laws aren't infallible. you're in favour of your own vision of what's right and wrong and are totally OK if someone breaks the law to achieve those ends. Law is literally just a collection of opinions on what people consider right and wrong, which is why they change all the time. The history of law is essentially just "adjusting the sliders" on what is and isn't considered socially acceptable. By the way, that's the exact same mindset those illegal immigrants you hate have. Guess you guys aren't so different after all. The mental gymnastics you performed to assert this are truly incredible. My mindset doesn't involve harming the innocent. The illegal immigrant mindset does. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:908333790] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>In other words, you're not actually in favour of law and order</quote> For some reason you insist on pushing this strange fallacy where you posit that because I support some laws, I support all laws. There is a well-established legal precedent that laws aren't infallible. <quote>you're in favour of your own vision of what's right and wrong and are totally OK if someone breaks the law to achieve those ends.</quote> Law is literally just a collection of opinions on what people consider right and wrong, which is why they change all the time. The history of law is essentially just "adjusting the sliders" on what is and isn't considered socially acceptable. <quote>By the way, that's the exact same mindset those illegal immigrants you hate have. Guess you guys aren't so different after all.</quote> The mental gymnastics you performed to assert this are truly incredible. My mindset doesn't involve harming the innocent. The illegal immigrant mindset does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 09/08/18 3:35:20 AM #53:	I feel like the warden should probably be penalized. Just for the fact that next time someone gets stabbed beaten and raped, the inmates might not have the best judgment, and it might not work out to be a fun story about karma. <cite>Yellow posted [p:908333824] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>I feel like the warden should probably be penalized. Just for the fact that next time someone gets stabbed beaten and raped, the inmates might not have the best judgment, and it might not work out to be a fun story about karma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 09/08/18 4:05:35 AM #54:	Zeus posted... Mead posted... Zeus posted... Mead posted... They probably should have had him separated from the general population given how predictable attacks like this can be, Pretty much this. Prisons have an obligation to guard the welfare of inmates, hence why we provide medical care and food to prisoners. Im trying to figure out why youd cut off the statement you quoted You mean you're wondering why I cut off a portion of the quote where you imply that you liked seeing somebody beaten so badly that they wind up in the hospital? Might it have anything to do with the fact I was only agreeing that at-risk prisoners should be separated from the general population and wasn't tacitly condoning vigilante justice? So ya defend neo nazis and child killers. You're more SJW than ya know. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:908334446] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>They probably should have had him separated from the general population given how predictable attacks like this can be,</quote> Pretty much this. Prisons have an obligation to guard the welfare of inmates, hence why we provide medical care and food to prisoners.</quote> Im trying to figure out why youd cut off the statement you quoted</quote> You mean you're wondering why I cut off a portion of the quote where you imply that you liked seeing somebody beaten so badly that they wind up in the hospital? Might it have anything to do with the fact I was only agreeing that at-risk prisoners should be separated from the general population and wasn't tacitly condoning vigilante justice?</quote> So ya defend neo nazis and child killers. You're more SJW than ya know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/08/18 4:07:08 AM #55:	Kyuubi4269 posted... In other words: "You're not in favour of current laws, you want laws you want in your country? What kind of patriot are you?" There's a difference between "I want laws to change" and "I'm in favour of people breaking the law". There's also a level of hypocrisy in saying "Those gat dang illegul immgrants should learn to follow the law!" while simultaneously celebrating someone committing a felony. Kyuubi4269 posted... You don't get to decide another country's laws, it's kinda why we have different countries. Just like how no one said anything about Apartheid in South Africa, right? Wait... Rasmoh posted... Law is literally just a collection of opinions on what people consider right and wrong, which is why they change all the time. Sure. There's just one problem with this assertion: the laws on corporal punishment haven't changed. At no point has it ever been legal for a group of prisoners to assault another prisoner, and judicially-administered corporal punishment hasn't been practised in nearly 70 years. Nor, for that matter, do a majority of people think it should change. I mean, would you be fine with a bunch of child murderers beating up an informant in prison on drug charges? After all, that's still prisoners meting out "jailhouse justice". Rasmoh posted... My mindset doesn't involve harming the innocent. The illegal immigrant mindset does. I can go ahead and flip this around by pointing out that your mindset involves a group of people committing a felony so that they can administer a punishment that they lack any authority to give against someone who has been offered no legal defence against it. Mob rule, in other words. Those illegal immigrants, on the other hand, generally want to harm no one - the vast majority just want a better life for themselves, which is why crime rates for illegal immigrants are lower than those of the native-born population. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908334483] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>In other words: "You're not in favour of current laws, you want laws you want in your country? What kind of patriot are you?"</quote> There's a difference between "I want laws to change" and "I'm in favour of people breaking the law". There's also a level of hypocrisy in saying "Those gat dang illegul immgrants should learn to follow the law!" while simultaneously celebrating someone committing a felony. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>You don't get to decide another country's laws, it's kinda why we have different countries.</quote> Just like how no one said anything about Apartheid in South Africa, right? Wait... <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Law is literally just a collection of opinions on what people consider right and wrong, which is why they change all the time. </quote> Sure. There's just one problem with this assertion: the laws on corporal punishment haven't changed. At no point has it ever been legal for a group of prisoners to assault another prisoner, and judicially-administered corporal punishment hasn't been practised in nearly 70 years. Nor, for that matter, do a majority of people think it should change. I mean, would you be fine with a bunch of child murderers beating up an informant in prison on drug charges? After all, that's still prisoners meting out "jailhouse justice". <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>My mindset doesn't involve harming the innocent. The illegal immigrant mindset does.</quote> I can go ahead and flip this around by pointing out that your mindset involves a group of people committing a felony so that they can administer a punishment that they lack any authority to give against someone who has been offered no legal defence against it. Mob rule, in other words. Those illegal immigrants, on the other hand, generally want to harm no one - the vast majority just want a better life for themselves, which is why crime rates for illegal immigrants are lower than those of the native-born population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 09/08/18 4:37:59 AM #56:	darkknight109 posted... "Those gat dang illegul immgrants should learn to follow the law!" while simultaneously celebrating someone committing a felony. Your ability to contort two opinions that differ wildly due to the context into what you believe are equivalent arguments is truly astounding. Sure. There's just one problem with this assertion: the laws on corporal punishment haven't changed. At no point has it ever been legal for a group of prisoners to assault another prisoner, and judicially-administered corporal punishment hasn't been practised in nearly 70 years The hoops you are capable of jumping through never cease to amaze me. You are essentially saying "at no point in history has this specific instance(prisoners attacking other prisoners) been legal", which ignores that a system where that sort of thing would be legal essentially cannot come into being due to the environment required for such a system. A judicially-administered corporal punishment system would come into place long beforehand because it's a much more realistic precedent. Nor, for that matter, do a majority of people think it should change. That's an interesting assertion because it's entirely unverifiable. What people say and how they truly feel are so frequently differing. There are crimes that are typically considered universally abhorrent, such as harming children, rape, and murder, yet you still have people who advocate for those who commit those crimes. Family members of criminals are a great example, it's all too common for them to say that even the most horrific of criminals are good people who made a mistake. Some of them even choose to live in denial rather than accept that the person they know is bad. I mean, would you be fine with a bunch of child murderers beating up an informant in prison on drug charges? After all, that's still prisoners meting out "jailhouse justice". This scenario doesn't work. In my ideal world, there aren't bunches of child murderers because they've all been executed because there's no reason to keep them around. I can go ahead and flip this around by pointing out that your mindset involves a group of people committing a felony so that they can administer a punishment that they lack any authority to give against someone who has been offered no legal defence against it. My mindset removes the opportunity for this felony to occur. Those illegal immigrants, on the other hand, generally want to harm no one - the vast majority just want a better life for themselves, which is why crime rates for illegal immigrants are lower than those of the native-born population. Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. I'm also still surprised you still shit out that sad excuse for a statistic because you know just how much that statistic is manipulated. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:908335078] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>"Those gat dang illegul immgrants should learn to follow the law!" while simultaneously celebrating someone committing a felony.</quote> Your ability to contort two opinions that differ wildly due to the context into what you believe are equivalent arguments is truly astounding. <quote>Sure. There's just one problem with this assertion: the laws on corporal punishment haven't changed. At no point has it ever been legal for a group of prisoners to assault another prisoner, and judicially-administered corporal punishment hasn't been practised in nearly 70 years</quote> The hoops you are capable of jumping through never cease to amaze me. You are essentially saying "at no point in history has this specific instance(prisoners attacking other prisoners) been legal", which ignores that a system where that sort of thing would be legal essentially cannot come into being due to the environment required for such a system. A judicially-administered corporal punishment system would come into place long beforehand because it's a much more realistic precedent. <quote>Nor, for that matter, do a majority of people think it should change.</quote> That's an interesting assertion because it's entirely unverifiable. What people say and how they truly feel are so frequently differing. There are crimes that are typically considered universally abhorrent, such as harming children, rape, and murder, yet you still have people who advocate for those who commit those crimes. Family members of criminals are a great example, it's all too common for them to say that even the most horrific of criminals are good people who made a mistake. Some of them even choose to live in denial rather than accept that the person they know is bad. <quote>I mean, would you be fine with a bunch of child murderers beating up an informant in prison on drug charges? After all, that's still prisoners meting out "jailhouse justice".</quote> This scenario doesn't work. In my ideal world, there aren't bunches of child murderers because they've all been executed because there's no reason to keep them around. <quote>I can go ahead and flip this around by pointing out that your mindset involves a group of people committing a felony so that they can administer a punishment that they lack any authority to give against someone who has been offered no legal defence against it.</quote> My mindset removes the opportunity for this felony to occur. <quote>Those illegal immigrants, on the other hand, generally want to harm no one - the vast majority just want a better life for themselves, which is why crime rates for illegal immigrants are lower than those of the native-born population.</quote> Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. I'm also still surprised you still shit out that sad excuse for a statistic because you know just how much that statistic is manipulated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myghostisdead 09/08/18 5:12:41 AM #57:	He got what he deserves. --- Devil May Cry 5! https://kzeor.deviantart.com <cite>myghostisdead posted [p:908335724] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>He got what he deserves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/08/18 5:49:27 AM #58:	Rasmoh posted... Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time=" --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:908336350] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/08/18 7:54:14 AM #59:	Jail is his punishment. He should be separated from lifers that can't be punished further into PC. --- If your address was made public, a lot less people would snitch and be dicks in general online. <cite>zebatov posted [p:908338478] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>Jail is his punishment. He should be separated from lifers that can't be punished further into PC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 09/08/18 9:44:54 AM #60:	myghostisdead posted... He got what he deserves. People arguing but the fact is. Prison justice will determine his fate. Intentional baby killers are not safe in any prison. --- Still waters run deep. C-walk. IntelDarkWeb <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:908341106] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>myghostisdead posted...</cite> <quote>He got what he deserves.</quote> People arguing but the fact is. Prison justice will determine his fate. Intentional baby killers are not safe in any prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 09/08/18 9:50:10 AM #61:	Stuff like this shouldn't happen to inmates. The sentence is their punishment. That being said, I really don't care when it does happen. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:908341271] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>Stuff like this shouldn't happen to inmates. The sentence is their punishment. That being said, I really don't care when it does happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 09/08/18 9:51:43 AM #62:	I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:908341321] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 09/08/18 9:56:18 AM #63:	DrYuya posted... I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really Anywhere he goes now he will be alone. Even recreation. So hes dead. Thats what would happen in America. Not sure about Australian prisons. --- Still waters run deep. C-walk. IntelDarkWeb <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:908341474] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really</quote> Anywhere he goes now he will be alone. Even recreation. So hes dead. Thats what would happen in America. Not sure about Australian prisons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 09/08/18 10:16:00 AM #64:	DrYuya posted... I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really Nope. I support torture for this guy. Assuming he is actually guilty. --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:908342171] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I'm only angry that he wasn't beaten to death...they should have finished the job really</quote> Nope. I support torture for this guy. Assuming he is actually guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 09/08/18 2:09:18 PM #65:	Zeus posted... SkynyrdRocker posted... Lil_Bit83 posted... Good. He's a worthless piece of shit. He's getting what he deserves. Pretty good demonstration of horseshoe theory since far leftists fall right in line with the far right when it comes to barbaric nonsense like this. And...what he did isn't barbaric? He beat a child to death and is only getting 9 years for it. Sometimes justice comes in different forms. And justice isn't always "Just". I can't bring myself to feel any sympathy for people like this. Only the ones who suffered under them. Who the hell left that kid alone with this guy anyway? Surely there had to be some past act of domestic abuse to indicate he wouldn't be considered an ideal parent. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:908352597] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SkynyrdRocker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil_Bit83 posted...</cite> <quote>Good. He's a worthless piece of shit. He's getting what he deserves.</quote></quote> Pretty good demonstration of horseshoe theory since far leftists fall right in line with the far right when it comes to barbaric nonsense like this.</quote> And...what he did isn't barbaric? He beat a child to death and is only getting 9 years for it. Sometimes justice comes in different forms. And justice isn't always "Just". I can't bring myself to feel any sympathy for people like this. Only the ones who suffered under them. Who the hell left that kid alone with this guy anyway? Surely there had to be some past act of domestic abuse to indicate he wouldn't be considered an ideal parent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 09/10/18 4:01:43 PM #66:	Rasmoh posted... Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way https://imgur.com/a/fnItPqy --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:908482553] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way</quote> https://imgur.com/a/fnItPqy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 09/10/18 4:27:33 PM #67:	Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:908484160] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/10/18 5:51:52 PM #68:	Dikitain posted... Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells. What if they did both? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:908488995] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells.</quote> What if they did both?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/10/18 6:09:25 PM #69:	Revelation34 posted... Dikitain posted... Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells. What if they did both? Police stations dont usually hire children to be law enforcement officers. --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:908489925] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells.</quote> What if they did both?</quote> Police stations dont usually hire children to be law enforcement officers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/10/18 6:27:05 PM #70:	But someone might break into a house and kill the cop they vowed revenge on and also kill their kid that was home <cite>Zikten posted [p:908490868] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>But someone might break into a house and kill the cop they vowed revenge on and also kill their kid that was home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/10/18 7:26:53 PM #71:	Zikten posted... But someone might break into a house and kill the cop they vowed revenge on and also kill their kid that was home Thanks champ, it was a joke. --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:908494264] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>But someone might break into a house and kill the cop they vowed revenge on and also kill their kid that was home</quote> Thanks champ, it was a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/11/18 10:30:06 AM #72:	Revelation34 posted... Dikitain posted... Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells. What if they did both? They get cheered while being beaten up, I guess... Cacciato posted... Revelation34 posted... Dikitain posted... Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells. What if they did both? Police stations dont usually hire children to be law enforcement officers. https://imgur.com/a/OxUFAMK https://imgur.com/a/Re0gmbU --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:908529234] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells.</quote> What if they did both?</quote> They get cheered while being beaten up, I guess... <cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Yea, anybody who abuses a child is going to have a rough time in prison. Glad to see that Australian prisons follow this policy as well. That said, best way to be loved in prison is to be a cop killer. Those guys usually get cheered when they get escorted to their cells.</quote> What if they did both?</quote> Police stations dont usually hire children to be law enforcement officers.</quote> https://imgur.com/a/OxUFAMK https://imgur.com/a/Re0gmbU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/11/18 10:47:56 AM #73:	Fair, next. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:908530101] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/11/18 10:53:07 AM #74:	I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know? --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:908530390] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 09/11/18 11:03:11 AM #75:	GreenKnight127 posted... I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know? Prisons have televisions, and with most high profile cases inmates find out just by watching TV in their cells. For cases that aren't televised, they rarely find out. Even still a lot of the inmates who have been around a while can tell from little clues like how the guards treat them, how much they are allowed to interact with the general population, etc. Plus the rumor mill is huge in prison, what else you going to do when you are around the same people 24/7? --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:908530899] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know?</quote> Prisons have televisions, and with most high profile cases inmates find out just by watching TV in their cells. For cases that aren't televised, they rarely find out. Even still a lot of the inmates who have been around a while can tell from little clues like how the guards treat them, how much they are allowed to interact with the general population, etc. Plus the rumor mill is huge in prison, what else you going to do when you are around the same people 24/7?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/11/18 11:33:13 AM #76:	GreenKnight127 posted... Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Punishment, always has been. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:908532403] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION?</quote> Punishment, always has been.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/11/18 11:36:34 AM #77:	i hope he gets killed in there, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:908532572] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>i hope he gets killed in there, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/11/18 11:39:36 AM #78:	Aculo posted... i hope he gets killed in there, ok? now that he's been sent to the hospital, they wont' get another chance. when he returns to prison, he will be kept away from others for the rest of his time there. <cite>Zikten posted [p:908532724] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>i hope he gets killed in there, ok?</quote> now that he's been sent to the hospital, they wont' get another chance. when he returns to prison, he will be kept away from others for the rest of his time there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/11/18 11:44:51 AM #79:	Kyuubi4269 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Punishment, always has been. Well, these days, yeah... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:908532980] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION?</quote> Punishment, always has been.</quote> Well, these days, yeah...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/11/18 11:50:01 AM #80:	Zikten posted... Aculo posted... i hope he gets killed in there, ok? now that he's been sent to the hospital, they wont' get another chance. when he returns to prison, he will be kept away from others for the rest of his time there. shame, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:908533258] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>i hope he gets killed in there, ok?</quote> now that he's been sent to the hospital, they wont' get another chance. when he returns to prison, he will be kept away from others for the rest of his time there.</quote> shame, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/11/18 12:17:27 PM #81:	Dikitain posted... GreenKnight127 posted... I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know? Prisons have televisions, and with most high profile cases inmates find out just by watching TV in their cells. For cases that aren't televised, they rarely find out. Even still a lot of the inmates who have been around a while can tell from little clues like how the guards treat them, how much they are allowed to interact with the general population, etc. Plus the rumor mill is huge in prison, what else you going to do when you are around the same people 24/7? So prison is for punishment, but they're allowed to watch TV? Doesn't seem right, does it? And rumor mill and gossip because they have nothing else better to do? So what's to keep them from spreading lies and falsely claiming a certain man is in for child porn when he was only in for marijuana possession? And now everyone wants to murder him? The whole system is messed up and the state should be protecting these guys. It should be impossible for people to be brutally beaten or murdered in prison. The whole system needs drastic reform. It's disgusting. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:908534729] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I've always wondered how fellow inmates find out EXACTLY what other inmates are in for.... I mean, I'm not trying to defend baby-beaters and pedophiles.....but it's well-known that those guys always get tortured in prison. And, knowing that.....isn't there some kind of moral obligation, by the state, to protect them from inhumane punishment? Is prison primarily for PUNISHMENT or REHABILITATION? Because if prison guards are going around telling all the inmates that the new guy is in for child porn.....the prison guard HAS to know that the inmates are going to murder him for it. So isn't that prison guard partially guilty of a crime? Isn't that third degree murder in a way? And if the prisoners are finding out what everyone's in for due to public records or whatever......how the hell are they getting access to public records? They're in fucking PRISON! This never made sense to me. Do any of you know?</quote> Prisons have televisions, and with most high profile cases inmates find out just by watching TV in their cells. For cases that aren't televised, they rarely find out. Even still a lot of the inmates who have been around a while can tell from little clues like how the guards treat them, how much they are allowed to interact with the general population, etc. Plus the rumor mill is huge in prison, what else you going to do when you are around the same people 24/7?</quote> So prison is for punishment, but they're allowed to watch TV? Doesn't seem right, does it? And rumor mill and gossip because they have nothing else better to do? So what's to keep them from spreading lies and falsely claiming a certain man is in for child porn when he was only in for marijuana possession? And now everyone wants to murder him? The whole system is messed up and the state should be protecting these guys. It should be impossible for people to be brutally beaten or murdered in prison. The whole system needs drastic reform. It's disgusting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 09/11/18 12:20:35 PM #82:	The system is a joke. It doesn't fix anyone. They need to just kill everyone who gets out and commits another crime. There's an incentive to stop. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:908534891] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote>The system is a joke. It doesn't fix anyone. They need to just kill everyone who gets out and commits another crime. There's an incentive to stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/11/18 12:52:53 PM #83:	TheCyborgNinja posted... The system is a joke. It doesn't fix anyone. They need to just kill everyone who gets out and commits another crime. There's an incentive to stop. Or rehabilitate them WHILE they're in prison. You know, something humane like that. Also, it would help to have more jobs available that gladly hire ex-convicts so they can actually rebuild their life after they get out of prison. Many ex-cons resort back to crime after getting out....because: 1.) It's all they know. 2.) Prison tends to make them WORSE than they started. 3.) No one wants to hire ex-cons so the job market is empty. It's either choose homelessness and depression.....or rob a bank and sell drugs and actually afford clothing and food. It's truly sad. And it's something the media rarely likes to talk about. Because people just assume all criminals are evil and deserve the worst. Many of these guys were desperate to begin with. Small drug offenses. Petty crime. But they couldn't afford good lawyers, and now their lives are permanently ruined. And prison does NOT help. Only makes it worse. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:908536644] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheCyborgNinja posted...</cite> <quote>The system is a joke. It doesn't fix anyone. They need to just kill everyone who gets out and commits another crime. There's an incentive to stop.</quote> Or rehabilitate them WHILE they're in prison. You know, something humane like that. Also, it would help to have more jobs available that gladly hire ex-convicts so they can actually rebuild their life after they get out of prison. Many ex-cons resort back to crime after getting out....because: 1.) It's all they know. 2.) Prison tends to make them WORSE than they started. 3.) No one wants to hire ex-cons so the job market is empty. It's either choose homelessness and depression.....or rob a bank and sell drugs and actually afford clothing and food. It's truly sad. And it's something the media rarely likes to talk about. Because people just assume all criminals are evil and deserve the worst. Many of these guys were desperate to begin with. Small drug offenses. Petty crime. But they couldn't afford good lawyers, and now their lives are permanently ruined. And prison does NOT help. Only makes it worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 09/11/18 1:20:09 PM #84:	GreenKnight127 posted... The whole system needs drastic reform. It's disgusting. Funny enough, the big reason why prisons are the way they are today: Labor Unions. Back about 100 or more years ago, prisons used to take the people who were in their care and teach them a trade. They would find jobs they were good at, train them to do those jobs, even make sure to set up things like housing and work for them once they got out. The problem? It was undercutting the existing workforce because these people could be hired for less then your average Joe off the street who needed to support his family. So when the Labor Unions started gaining traction one of the first things they did was make it illegal to use prisoners as a labor force. They even went as far as to perpetuate the "chain gang" stereotype to force people to change the system. Fast forward to today and this is where we are. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:908538136] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The whole system needs drastic reform. It's disgusting.</quote> Funny enough, the big reason why prisons are the way they are today: Labor Unions. Back about 100 or more years ago, prisons used to take the people who were in their care and teach them a trade. They would find jobs they were good at, train them to do those jobs, even make sure to set up things like housing and work for them once they got out. The problem? It was undercutting the existing workforce because these people could be hired for less then your average Joe off the street who needed to support his family. So when the Labor Unions started gaining traction one of the first things they did was make it illegal to use prisoners as a labor force. They even went as far as to perpetuate the "chain gang" stereotype to force people to change the system. Fast forward to today and this is where we are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/11/18 4:13:04 PM #85:	Rasmoh posted... A judicially-administered corporal punishment system would come into place long beforehand because it's a much more realistic precedent. A judicially-administered corporal punishment system did come into place long beforehand - as I already stated, it was discarded decades ago as being cruel and ineffective. It's great for salving our lizard-brain thirst for revenge (not so much for the people who have to administer it, though - one of the big drivers behind its abandonment was that guards hated meting it out) and pretty much nothing else. Rasmoh posted... That's an interesting assertion because it's entirely unverifiable. What people say and how they truly feel are so frequently differing. Saying "Sure, people say they think this thing, but who knows if that's what they're actually thinking. You can't prove it, after all," isn't the most ridiculous straw-grasping I've ever heard in my life, but it's probably in the Top 5. Rasmoh posted... This scenario doesn't work. In my ideal world, there aren't bunches of child murderers because they've all been executed because there's no reason to keep them around. We're not talking about your "ideal world", which, honestly, sounds like a pretty Orwellian place. Rasmoh posted... My mindset removes the opportunity for this felony to occur. Your mindset is not realities. Leave your fantasies for the bedroom and stick to real life. Rasmoh posted... Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. I mean, if you want to go to ridiculous extremes, everything everybody does harms innocent people in some way. I went to work today; that means someone else who could use my job isn't going to be able to do it because I'm busy taking up space. I also just bought a video game instead of giving that money to the poor - worse, many of the rare earth metals that were used to manufacture that game probably came from mines with abhorrent conditions in the third world. So yeah, we're all evil bastards. That said, construing something in such an over-the-top fashion is plainly ridiculous, so let's steer the discussion back onto something that is at least somewhat rational, shall we? Rasmoh posted... I'm also still surprised you still shit out that sad excuse for a statistic because you know just how much that statistic is manipulated. "Manipulated", in this case, meaning 100% true. And it's not difficult to see why - the vast majority of illegal immigrants aren't the stereotypical gangers and drug dealers, they're people trying to make a better life for themselves (and immigrants doing that has been a thing for several hundred years now - you guys even put up a statue in New York with a little poem about it). To that end, crime is even less of a winner for immigrants than most people, because they have the additional threat of deportation hanging over their heads if they winding up running afoul of the law. This matter has been studied extensively and first generation immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate pretty much across the board (to the point where an influx in immigrants into communities actually caused crime rates to drop). The effect lasts for ~2-3 generations, after which point there is no statistical difference. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908548224] in Man that k... [t:76977500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>A judicially-administered corporal punishment system would come into place long beforehand because it's a much more realistic precedent. </quote> A judicially-administered corporal punishment system did come into place long beforehand - as I already stated, it was discarded decades ago as being cruel and ineffective. It's great for salving our lizard-brain thirst for revenge (not so much for the people who have to administer it, though - one of the big drivers behind its abandonment was that guards hated meting it out) and pretty much nothing else. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>That's an interesting assertion because it's entirely unverifiable. What people say and how they truly feel are so frequently differing. </quote> Saying "Sure, people say they think this thing, but who knows if that's what they're actually thinking. You can't prove it, after all," isn't the most ridiculous straw-grasping I've ever heard in my life, but it's probably in the Top 5. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>This scenario doesn't work. In my ideal world, there aren't bunches of child murderers because they've all been executed because there's no reason to keep them around. </quote> We're not talking about your "ideal world", which, honestly, sounds like a pretty Orwellian place. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>My mindset removes the opportunity for this felony to occur. </quote> Your mindset is not realities. Leave your fantasies for the bedroom and stick to real life. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. </quote> I mean, if you want to go to ridiculous extremes, everything everybody does harms innocent people in some way. I went to work today; that means someone else who could use my job isn't going to be able to do it because I'm busy taking up space. I also just bought a video game instead of giving that money to the poor - worse, many of the rare earth metals that were used to manufacture that game probably came from mines with abhorrent conditions in the third world. So yeah, we're all evil bastards. That said, construing something in such an over-the-top fashion is plainly ridiculous, so let's steer the discussion back onto something that is at least somewhat rational, shall we? <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>I'm also still surprised you still shit out that sad excuse for a statistic because you know just how much that statistic is manipulated.</quote> "Manipulated", in this case, meaning 100% true. And it's not difficult to see why - the vast majority of illegal immigrants aren't the stereotypical gangers and drug dealers, they're people trying to make a better life for themselves (and immigrants doing that has been a thing for several hundred years now - you guys even put up a statue in New York with a little poem about it). To that end, crime is even less of a winner for immigrants than most people, because they have the additional threat of deportation hanging over their heads if they winding up running afoul of the law. This matter has been studied extensively and first generation immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate pretty much across the board (to the point where an influx in immigrants into communities actually caused crime rates to drop). The effect lasts for ~2-3 generations, after which point there is no statistical difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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