Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 50 - A Hyoh New World

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Horith
09/25/18 11:49:38 PM
#203:


Damn, every day that it's there that 7* step-up banner gets more and more tempting. I know I shouldn't. It's a terrible idea. I'd need so many crysts for Emperor, I don't have the gear for Tidus, Merc Ramza is okay but not needed, Ayaka is pointless, and Reberta's STMR isn't stellar. So why do I keep feeling the urge to pull?

Oh yeah, because Gumi knows just the right buttons to push in all of us. :P
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The Mana Sword
09/26/18 12:00:47 AM
#204:


If Gumi knew how to push my buttons, Xenogears would be this week!
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 12:21:27 AM
#205:


You dont need Genji gloves no more with Hyoh on your side.
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crazygamer999
09/26/18 7:08:59 AM
#206:


Daily pull was a SS Nichol.

Welp, Mediena has a Freeze chainer now.
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armitage999
09/26/18 11:25:46 AM
#207:


Has anyone been able to beat the 3* Diabolos? Tanks really suck against him and I dont know how to do a lot of damage against him really quickly.
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The Mana Sword
09/26/18 11:32:46 AM
#208:


I haven't quite done it yet, but the general strategy I was using wants you to have two tanks. One magic tank with 200%+ Dark resist, and one physical provoke tanks with death resist and preferably 100% evasion.

His SPR is a lot lower than his DEF, so you probably want to use magic as your main source of damage, though if you have some high ATK 7* Orlandeaus/Hyohs with light weapons that can work just fine too,
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armitage999
09/26/18 11:36:13 AM
#209:


Ive tried with my 7* Orlandeau/friend Hyoh 2000+ ATK with light weapons and wind chain magic users and just cant scratch him, then he kills my tanks. I cant quite get 100% evade on Wilhlem right now since he needs the safety bit and Merc Ramza tends to die not long after that.
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 11:37:55 AM
#210:


Yeah, mag cover tank with 200% dark resist, physical evasion provoke tank and light DPS. You can reflect dark messenger if you use carbuncle before a threshold. You can bring Mystea as your mag tank if you dont have an Ayaka for the stop resistance since she has clear veil for all of that as well. Once you have those 2 units he is a joke.

armitage999 posted...
Ive tried with my 7* Orlandeau/friend Hyoh 2000+ ATK with light weapons and wind chain magic users and just cant scratch him, then he kills my tanks. I cant quite get 100% evade on Wilhlem right now since he needs the safety bit and Merc Ramza tends to die not long after that.


Genji shield is your best friend. https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Genji_Shield
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The Mana Sword
09/26/18 11:40:21 AM
#211:


Hmm, I dunno, I was doing that setup, chaining with 7* Orlandeau @ ~1500 ATK and 7* Hyoh @ ~2000 ATK, and I was able to hit a threshold each turn.

Is your magic tank getting hit by paralysis or something? If you have enough dark resist, they shouldn't really be dying.
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 11:40:59 AM
#212:


probably getting stopped or paralyzed. More than likely stopped.
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armitage999
09/26/18 12:10:39 PM
#213:


Suddenly Merc Ramza is deciding to cover on physical attacks. Ive got to get rid of him and hope for a 7* Basch, good grief Ramza sucks.

Note: Ive always disliked innate cover units in this game as they always cover when you dont want them to. I like having control on when I want to cover.
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Horith
09/26/18 1:12:13 PM
#214:


How do people suggest handling the dispel rounds? Is it just RNG if you can survive or not?
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voltch
09/26/18 1:19:53 PM
#215:


Will Diablos eventually be easy once the power creep sets in?

Or is he a little future proof in difficulty
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 1:29:21 PM
#216:


Horith posted...
How do people suggest handling the dispel rounds? Is it just RNG if you can survive or not?


If hit with a dark element attack, above 50% HP, uses one of the following:
Evil Mood1 (16.1%)
Evil Mood2 (28.7%)
Evil Mood3 (33.6%)
Does nothing (21.6%)

Under 50% HP:
Every 2 turns, uses one of the following:
Evil Mood1 (16.1%)
Evil Mood2 (28.7%)
Evil Mood3 (33.6%)
Does nothing (21.6%)

Evil mood 3 is the one that dispels your buffs and debuffs.

There is a 66% chance he doesn't even use it but I mean its just luck of the draw. With good DPS units, you shouldn't even really have to worry about it. I don't remember having many issues with Diabolos personally so it must have really been a nonfactor. Pretty sure I was using 3 7 star lightning at the time with light weapons since I didn't 7 star my orlandeus. Or maybe I was still using my Fryevias but the point is that I was using physical attackers and really didn't have any issues.
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Fiyun
09/26/18 1:40:42 PM
#217:


Horith posted...
How do people suggest handling the dispel rounds? Is it just RNG if you can survive or not?


Nuke above 50%.

voltch posted...
Will Diablos eventually be easy once the power creep sets in?

Or is he a little future proof in difficulty


Two Lila can already waste it. (I did so.)

As you get more strong chaining mages he gets easier unlike Odin 3* who is a step above Diabolos in terms of difficulty.
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crazygamer999
09/26/18 1:41:17 PM
#218:


Yea,the dispels make Diabolos have a soft DPS check. 2/3 is a good chance, but RNG is RNG.

If you have the DPS(Mag does better since lower spirit), then the rest is just team-building. But if you can't hit the thresholds every turns, then pray to RNG that you don't get dispelled.

I did it with VoL chains after failing a lot.
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RaidenGarai
09/26/18 1:48:08 PM
#219:


armitage999 posted...
Suddenly Merc Ramza is deciding to cover on physical attacks. Ive got to get rid of him and hope for a 7* Basch, good grief Ramza sucks.

Note: Ive always disliked innate cover units in this game as they always cover when you dont want them to. I like having control on when I want to cover.


This is why I dont consider Ramza to be a viable tank. Ive tried using him a total of 6 times, and all 6 ended pretty fast, with him covering my magic tank and ending the run before it could get started. Switched back to Wilhelm and no issues, easy clear.
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 1:48:45 PM
#220:


Yeah random cover really screws over a 2nd tank that is meant to cover.
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Horith
09/26/18 2:18:27 PM
#221:


I've only had 4* Provoke tanks before, so I heavily invested in M. Ramza when I had the chance. I've used him a ton, and he's only screwed me once or twice. RNG is just RNG I guess. I personally love him because of the innate Ribbon, Charm resistance, and the innate elemental resistances make gearing a little bit easier. The one time he did screw me I very quickly asked why, and I found that swapping the cover tank into Slot 5 improves your chances of him not covering the cover tank (presumably since he does his check on the party members in order?).

It's why I'm so torn on pulling that Wilhelm a couple days ago. I know he's technically the better tank thanks to the lack of innate cover and better stats, but I'd have to UoC his 7*, and I've relied on Ramza's breaks a lot for battles where I can't pull CG Lid in.
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RaidenGarai
09/26/18 2:35:18 PM
#222:


If youre getting good use out of Ramza and hes not causing a problem for you, I wouldnt worry about getting Wilhelm with UoC. I definitely believe that Wilhelm is the better tank even though theyre pretty close in most aspects of kit, but if its working for you right now I wouldnt use the UoC. Save that for Seighart if you really need a physical tank, since I believe hes better than Wilhelm.

I love that they gave Wilhelm attack and Mag breaks at 7*. Those were huge with the new Malboro trial.
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armitage999
09/26/18 2:40:24 PM
#223:


I think my problem is that is that this game has easily the hardest end game content out there like Diabolos and I have no way to beat them.
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Horith
09/26/18 2:43:49 PM
#224:


This is gonna sound petty, but I hate Sieghart's character even more than Lasswell (and I despise Lasswell). I have absolutely no desire to pull for him in any way, shape, or form, I don't care how amazing he is.
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Fiyun
09/26/18 2:59:17 PM
#225:


armitage999 posted...
I think my problem is that is that this game has easily the hardest end game content out there like Diabolos and I have no way to beat them.


Wait a bit for more units to roll out.

The base is an AoE magic tank and a fitting provoker+ magic chainers.

Horith posted...
This is gonna sound petty, but I hate Sieghart's character even more than Lasswell (and I despise Lasswell). I have absolutely no desire to pull for him in any way, shape, or form, I don't care how amazing he is.


Basically if you have either 7* Wilhelm/Mamza/Gladiolus/Basch you are good to go in general once their time arrives.
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RaidenGarai
09/26/18 3:15:36 PM
#226:


I have no interest in Seighart either. Im ride or die with the stache
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Lucavi000
09/26/18 3:58:31 PM
#227:


Is 3 star espers really considered to be end game content though? I always left that for trials and 10 mans.

Speaking of which. Finally got around to beating Omega the other day. Not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
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Horith
09/26/18 4:04:08 PM
#228:


Maybe, depends on the Esper. Carbunkle going the more dangerous route isn't exactly an easy fight no matter how you slice it, Diabolos is at least a soft DPS check and RNG reliant if you don't have the damage, and Tetra is just hard from what I understand. The first few were pretty easy if you had an evade tank and good elemental resist gear/abilities, but near impossible without.
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Fiyun
09/26/18 4:13:24 PM
#229:


Some Espers are.

Odin 3*, Leviathan, Diabolos, Asura 1*, etc.

It really comes down to what you got at hand since not everyone will rip out genitals and shove them down a nostril like it is Tuesday.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/26/18 4:20:24 PM
#230:


Put Merc Ramza lower in your party order than your cover tank and hell only cover in a situation where your other tank wasnt going to, as they get priority.
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Horith
09/26/18 8:36:34 PM
#231:


Well I feel silly. Remember my complaints about a ton of people defriending me? Well I figured that my 59/100 on my friend list was accurate. Turns out its borked, and I really do have 100 people on my list.

Egg on my face I guess.
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Fiyun
09/27/18 1:03:09 AM
#232:


Enhanced Mystea is a good investment if you lack Basch/aRain. (More SPR and higher mitigation potential.)

Loren's are meh. (50% AoE breaks, 60% atk+20% HP.)

We shall see if there are some changes. Duke would need them.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/18 3:32:54 AM
#233:


Shouldn't Loren be worthwhile to Awaken Abilities on even if they are meh since he becomes a top tier 7* down the road?
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Fiyun
09/27/18 3:54:15 AM
#234:


Ability list.

https://ghostbin.com/paste/v6gra

BakusaiTenketsu posted...
Shouldn't Loren be worthwhile to Awaken Abilities on even if they are meh since he becomes a top tier 7* down the road?

Long term they are very meh once 60% debuffs are the standard instead of the current 45%.

Twin Blade General is the only one you will upgrade on her, unless you are swimming in crysts. (The Erasers are cheap though.)
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Fiyun
09/27/18 4:00:33 AM
#235:


GL - Maint Quick Peek - 9/27/18

# What's New

* **Story**: Season 2 Chapter 4 Part 3
* **Esper**: Fenrir 3
* **Dungeon**: Chamber of Experience/Riches - ELT
* **Event**: Darkness Awakens
* **Unit**: [Malphasie](https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Malphasie), [Circe](https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Circe)
* **Summon**: Free 10+1 Summon (Fan Festa)
* **Select Summon**: 7 Awakening Batch 2
* **Bundle**: Fan Festa Unit Jubilee/Celebration, Malphasie/Circe Awakening Special, Monthly Special!

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/9jav6w/gl_maint_quick_peek_92718/
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crazygamer999
09/27/18 6:40:38 AM
#236:


So
Crow lady has elemental DR chains
And Circe gets Flood and Quake chains

Neattttt

Also
Better links for fan units:
https://exvius.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Malphasie

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Circe
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The Mana Sword
09/27/18 10:25:50 AM
#237:


reward wheel fucking sucks!

edit: also sounds like Malphaise might be extremely good?
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Horith
09/27/18 10:30:33 AM
#238:


Every time I spin it tells me there are no more ads available. I've only gotten two spins in so far, I got the second after having left the game for about an hour or so. Am I supposed to be able to only spin every hour, or what?

I like the look of the raven unit, and I may be tempted to try and pull a couple times for her. I know I won't get her, but I'd like to; she just looks fun.
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Fiyun
09/27/18 10:32:11 AM
#239:


It's bugged for some.

You are supposed to watch an ad, get a spin, then redo it four more times.
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The Mana Sword
09/27/18 10:33:13 AM
#240:


new gumi feature bugged?

well I never
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Lucavi000
09/27/18 1:42:09 PM
#241:


I tried it as well and got the error but I tried it on the emulator and not a phone.

Also has anyone here attempted Fenrir yet?
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Horith
09/27/18 1:49:43 PM
#242:


Is there even any reason to use Fenrir? I've never managed to find one.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/18 2:00:03 PM
#243:


Horith posted...
Is there even any reason to use Fenrir? I've never managed to find one.

Stats were pretty solid for a 2*, kind of like Bahamut. Good for Hybrid Damage characters I think.
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Fiyun
09/27/18 2:02:44 PM
#244:


Horith posted...
Is there even any reason to use Fenrir? I've never managed to find one.

Stone proof and low-effort 3 Turn 120% AoE stats, and one evasion. Higher stats potential than most Espers if killers aren't necessary since it got no killers.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/18 2:18:52 PM
#245:


I've noticed I have a serious OCD problem when it comes to getting "Complete" on all my missions.

I don't care if it's something like: "Defeat the Malboro Menace on their turn with a Counter Attack and get 1 Beast Meat," I feel like I have to go all in on every Mission and get it done lol.
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The Mana Sword
09/27/18 2:22:01 PM
#246:


I used to be like that until the story events came along.

Having to blow like 90 NRG and go through 5 missions just because one thing went wrong got me out of that habit quick.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/18 2:25:54 PM
#247:


The Mana Sword posted...
I used to be like that until the story events came along.

Having to blow like 90 NRG and go through 5 missions just because one thing went wrong got me out of that habit quick.

I feel tilted when I overlook something doing a Story Mission. For example, I brought a source of magical damage to complete an elemental damage mission once and completely spaced it that the other mission in the same series was "No Magic."
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Lucavi000
09/27/18 2:58:57 PM
#248:


Looking at stats it looks like at level 60 fenrir has more atk than Titan and 100 less than ifrit so there is a good reason to use him if you need some attack espers. He also has what others said above.

Also he dead. He's laughably easy if you bring 2 hyohs and some breakers.
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The Mana Sword
09/27/18 3:00:15 PM
#249:


Lucavi000 posted...
He's laughably easy if you bring 2 hyohs


I mean, this is most of the content in the game now tbqh
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voltch
09/27/18 3:01:02 PM
#250:


How long are the ads?

Thinking about how quickly I can get through this each day.
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BakusaiTenketsu
09/27/18 3:01:15 PM
#251:


Apparently buying the Bundle of Enhancement didn't count for my "Purchase a Bundle from the Shop," Mission today. I had a connection error while I was trying to buy it, so maybe that caused the issue.
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The Mana Sword
09/27/18 3:03:36 PM
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