Current Events > So now that the Kavanaugh nomination is effectively dead...

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Amy Barrett

What's gonna be the problem then???
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Manocheese posted...

Cilolntro posted...

This is the 3rd accuser who will come forward soon:

LMAO, the creepy porn lawyer is in the fray now? Democrats must be really desperate to smear Kavanaugh.

Creepy porn lawyer? Avenatti isn't creepy in the least. He's smart, funny, and pretty witty. I enjoy listening to him.

And why would you make fun of his pprofessional involvement with a porn star? It's not like he paid to fuck her like Trump did. Now that is creepy.
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He'll be on the SC by Friday

GOP always fall in line no matter what morals they have to give up to do it
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Questionmarktarius posted...

BLAKUboy posted...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1044261686188920834

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn30LAmXkAAyd2Q.jpg
Isn't it very illegal to extort a senator?

That is not extortion, unless everything about our democracy is.
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Antifar posted...

unless everything about our democracy is

...plausible.

theAteam posted...

He'll be on the SC by Friday

GOP always fall in line no matter what morals they have to give up to do it

Refusing to believe a serious accusation that has no evidence to back it is not giving up morals. How the fuck do people like you jump to these idiotic conclusions?
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theAteam posted...

He'll be on the SC by Friday

GOP always fall in line no matter what morals they have to give up to do it

Yeah the GOP is a bunch of master bootlickers
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though
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Doom_Art posted...

theAteam posted...

He'll be on the SC by Friday

GOP always fall in line no matter what morals they have to give up to do it

Yeah the GOP is a bunch of master bootlickers

Y'all seem to act as if the other guys aren't a hivemind as well.

scar the 1 posted...

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

As does the third.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Y'all seem to act as if the other guys aren't a hivemind as well.

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Cilolntro posted...

I think it is becoming pretty clear by now though that at the very least, Kavanaugh had a drinking problem.

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Manocheese posted...

the creepy porn lawyer

Does than mean Trump is a creepy porn star fucker?
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Vindris_SNH posted...

theAteam posted...

He'll be on the SC by Friday

GOP always fall in line no matter what morals they have to give up to do it

Refusing to believe a serious accusation that has no evidence to back it is not giving up morals. How the fuck do people like you jump to these idiotic conclusions?

No. What is immoral is refusing to even do an FBI investigation.

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

TheKentster posted...

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

It's unlikely Trump will nominate anyone else, as he'll view it as admitting defeat which he is literally incapable of.
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TheKentster posted...

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

Basically zero
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-wanted-to-nuke-rosenstein-to-save-kavanaughs-bacon

Seems to be a lot to unpack here.
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Antifar posted...

TheKentster posted...

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

Basically zero

Let me rephrase it then.

Assume Trump withdraws Kavanaugh's nomination and nominates someone else.

What are the odds the new person suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

100%

TheKentster posted...

Antifar posted...

TheKentster posted...

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

Basically zero

Let me rephrase it then.

Assume Trump withdraws Kavanaugh's nomination and nominates someone else.

What are the odds the new person suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

100%

Which is why people are saying he needs to nominate a woman, should that happen.
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scar the 1 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

Didnt the New Yorker article literally say they couldnt find any corroborating witnesses though?
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

Didnt the New Yorker article literally say they couldnt find any corroborating witnesses though?

Theres nothing. This movement is going to ruin any chances of screwing things up. More power to us because this makes it all seem more and more unbelievable to the general public.
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Dark_Spiret posted...

id laugh my ass off if they appoint someone even more hard right than Kav. he was one of the more moderate choices.

Abortion is bad
The president can not be charged with a crime
The president can ignore any law he thinks is unconstitutional

If that's moderate then the right is beyond redemption
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TheKentster posted...

Antifar posted...

TheKentster posted...

What are the odds that Trump withdraws his nomination and then puts someone else forward who suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

Basically zero

Let me rephrase it then.

Assume Trump withdraws Kavanaugh's nomination and nominates someone else.

What are the odds the new person suddenly has a bunch of rape allegations against him?

100%

What are the odds that Trump, a man who sexually assaulted his ex wives and bragged about grabbing pussies, would nominate a judge who happens to both be a sexual assaulter AND politically hard right? As far as the sexual assault part goes, birds of a feather. And didn't kavanaugh just have a representative for him resign after respectively being accused of sexual assault?
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Antifar posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

BLAKUboy posted...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1044261686188920834

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn30LAmXkAAyd2Q.jpg
Isn't it very illegal to extort a senator?

That is not extortion, unless everything about our democracy is.

It's pathetic, but yeah, you'd have to be utterly stupid to claim that's "extortion".
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

Didnt the New Yorker article literally say they couldnt find any corroborating witnesses though?

I thought they said they had not only someone who could provide similar details, that there was also a bunch of people who had had an email conversation about this a couple months back?
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GOP will ram him in. In 2 weeks no one will give a shit and its on to the next scandal for two more weeks and so on and so on.
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Kavanaugh's latest defense is claiming to have been a virgin for many years after high school. He'll apparently attempt to make this case in a Fox News interview he and his wife pretaped that will air tonight.
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scar the 1 posted...

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

Didnt the New Yorker article literally say they couldnt find any corroborating witnesses though?

I thought they said they had not only someone who could provide similar details, that there was also a bunch of people who had had an email conversation about this a couple months back?

The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.
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This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment
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SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

Literally excusing sexual assault.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

scar the 1 posted...

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Is it fair to automatically assume that accusations like this are credible? Certainly it should be investigated, but to believe someone with no evidence just doesn't seem right to me. If we're going to believe this with no evidence, what is to stop political opponents from shutting each other down like this again and again?

The second accusation seems to have a lot of corroborating witnesses though

Didnt the New Yorker article literally say they couldnt find any corroborating witnesses though?

I thought they said they had not only someone who could provide similar details, that there was also a bunch of people who had had an email conversation about this a couple months back?

The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.

A classmate of Ramirezs, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaughs nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is one-hundred-per-cent sure that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself.
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SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

and put it on her face.

that's not normal behavior...

Cilolntro posted...

The problem is how rigged the political system is. Trump lost the popular vote and shouldnt be president, and Gorsich stole the supreme court seat from Garland. The whole system is broken.

oh you're one of the people who unironically believes that lmao
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_Rinku_ posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

Literally excusing sexual assault.

SideshowBob311 posted...

That was acceptable back then

No, it wasn't.
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SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

They used to make movies about getting high school girls drunk to take advantage of them too
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thronedfire2 posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

They used to make movies about getting high school girls drunk to take advantage of them too

I'm not saying it's acceptable NOW....but he didn't do it last week either.
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SideshowBob311 posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

This "new allegation" is that he basically whipped out his dick at a party in college as a joke. That was acceptable back then....they made movies about that kind of thing. It's just an excuse to try and delay/derail a sure-thing appointment

They used to make movies about getting high school girls drunk to take advantage of them too

I'm not saying it's acceptable NOW....but he didn't do it last week either.

If it was acceptable then, what's the point in denying it?
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Back to 50/50

https://www.predictit.org/Market/4602/How-many-Yea-votes-will-Kavanaugh-receive-in-a-confirmation-vote-by-Oct-31
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