Poll of the Day > Someone you're close with commits a crime. Would you give them up?

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SonnerAnarchy
09/24/18 11:47:16 AM
#1:


Would you? - Results (3 votes)
Yes
66.67% (2 votes)
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No
33.33% (1 vote)
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We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.

Edit: Giving them up, meaning, turning them over to the cops.

Also, any specific crime that your friend commits, regardless of what it may be, would you turn them in.
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Nightengale
09/24/18 11:52:31 AM
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im not sure what 'give them up' means. stop being friends with them? give them up to the police?
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kind9
09/24/18 11:56:46 AM
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Murder or rape? Definitely. Robbery? Maybe. Kind of a loaded question that's hard to answer with a simple yes or no. Maybe you should edit the OP and be more clear.
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Kyuubi4269
09/24/18 12:00:22 PM
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Nah, I handle it internally. If I'm close to them, they sit just above morality. Of course if they act like a little shit, suddenly they sit below the threshold for morality.
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vocedelmorte
09/24/18 12:24:21 PM
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Depends how close. Is it one of my friends that commited murder? Or is it my SO? My SO will get away with more than just friend. What was the circumstances? Etc.
Crime like robbery or theft? No, i wouldn't give them up
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GenericGuy
09/24/18 12:40:17 PM
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Absolutely.
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dancer62
09/24/18 12:51:36 PM
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Failing to report earned income? Nah. Driving without insurance, nah. Medical marijuana without a prescription, nah.

Felonies? Nobody I would hang out with would, but if I knew of one, yes, in a heartbeat.
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Zeus
09/24/18 1:06:47 PM
#9:


I guess it depends on the crime, the circumstances under which it was committed, the nature of the friendship, and what I could actually contribute to the investigation.

SonnerAnarchy posted...
We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.


Wait, so you'd "like to think we'd tell" if somebody raped, but not if they murdered? >_>
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HagenEx
09/24/18 1:08:17 PM
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Not really, because, well...

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InhumaneRaider
09/24/18 1:23:15 PM
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Zeus posted...
I guess it depends on the crime, the circumstances under which it was committed, the nature of the friendship, and what I could actually contribute to the investigation.

SonnerAnarchy posted...
We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.


Wait, so you'd "like to think we'd tell" if somebody raped, but not if they murdered? >_>

They could have a reason they committed that murder, some people are loyal and will help you bury the body.

I don't think there is any reason to rape.
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Zeus
09/24/18 2:17:18 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Zeus posted...
I guess it depends on the crime, the circumstances under which it was committed, the nature of the friendship, and what I could actually contribute to the investigation.

SonnerAnarchy posted...
We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.


Wait, so you'd "like to think we'd tell" if somebody raped, but not if they murdered? >_>

They could have a reason they committed that murder, some people are loyal and will help you bury the body.

I don't think there is any reason to rape.


Anybody who could make a convoluted justification for murder could make a convoluted justification for rape (or, more realistically, an excuse for it). Likewise, people who could justify concealing a murder could easily justify covering up a rape

More to the point, murder is objectively worse than rape.
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ParanoidObsessive
09/24/18 3:00:21 PM
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Depends on the person, depends on the crime, depends on their reasons.


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Troll_Police_
09/24/18 3:21:13 PM
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depends on a lot of factors, but the answer is almost certainly yes since I am in pretty good standing with the law enforcement in Denver. not only would i be risking my license if it was discovered i didnt come forward, but i would make enemies out of a lot of people who can make doing any sort of work far more difficult.
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Kyuubi4269
09/24/18 3:28:29 PM
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Zeus posted...
murder is objectively worse than rape.

Well I'd rather die than be sodomised, so...
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Revelation34
09/24/18 3:33:06 PM
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Zeus posted...

More to the point, murder is objectively worse than rape.


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Lokarin
09/24/18 3:39:11 PM
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If I was witness, then yes - otherwise I couldn't care less
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InhumaneRaider
09/24/18 3:55:55 PM
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Zeus posted...
InhumaneRaider posted...
Zeus posted...
I guess it depends on the crime, the circumstances under which it was committed, the nature of the friendship, and what I could actually contribute to the investigation.

SonnerAnarchy posted...
We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.


Wait, so you'd "like to think we'd tell" if somebody raped, but not if they murdered? >_>

They could have a reason they committed that murder, some people are loyal and will help you bury the body.

I don't think there is any reason to rape.


Anybody who could make a convoluted justification for murder could make a convoluted justification for rape (or, more realistically, an excuse for it). Likewise, people who could justify concealing a murder could easily justify covering up a rape

More to the point, murder is objectively worse than rape.

Well, there's self-defense, accidental, revenge, cold-blooded. There's some intricacy to murder...

Rape...mmm, not so much.
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Kyuubi4269
09/24/18 3:57:16 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Zeus posted...
InhumaneRaider posted...
Zeus posted...
I guess it depends on the crime, the circumstances under which it was committed, the nature of the friendship, and what I could actually contribute to the investigation.

SonnerAnarchy posted...
We're walking the line of Murder, Robbery, etc. I'd like to think you would all tell the cops if someone raped someone else.


Wait, so you'd "like to think we'd tell" if somebody raped, but not if they murdered? >_>

They could have a reason they committed that murder, some people are loyal and will help you bury the body.

I don't think there is any reason to rape.


Anybody who could make a convoluted justification for murder could make a convoluted justification for rape (or, more realistically, an excuse for it). Likewise, people who could justify concealing a murder could easily justify covering up a rape

More to the point, murder is objectively worse than rape.

Well, there's self-defense, accidental, revenge, cold-blooded. There's some intricacy to murder...

Rape...mmm, not so much.

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KainFourteh
09/24/18 4:12:26 PM
#20:


Rape or paedophilia? Yes. Anything else? No. Only my closest friends, mind you.
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Keebs05
09/24/18 4:14:08 PM
#21:


Depends who it is and what they did. If my best friend killed someone, I'd probably help him hide the body. On the other hand, I have a couple of friends that I'd turn in for unpaid parking tickets if it somehow made my life easier.
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JimCarrysToe
09/24/18 4:36:36 PM
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I have no friends so if I did have one and they got away with genicide I wouldn't turn them in, gotta hold on to what I can. But I will for rape or pedo stuff, I'm not that desperate.
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Troll_Police_
09/24/18 5:25:05 PM
#23:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zeus posted...
murder is objectively worse than rape.

Well I'd rather die than be sodomised, so...


and after being raped you can make the call that youd rather be dead

but after dying you cant make the call that youd rather be raped
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synth_real
09/24/18 6:49:11 PM
#24:


If somebody I trusted murdered somebody, I'd probably be the guy they called to help them dispose of the body.

Anybody else would have to pay good money for that service.
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TheFalseDeity
09/25/18 12:17:24 AM
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If the victim was either me or someone else i was close to then maybe. Outside of that? Never. No matter what it was or what it might cost me.
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zebatov
09/25/18 12:19:20 AM
#26:


No to any crime because my moms didn't raise no snitch.
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Mead
09/25/18 12:22:00 AM
#27:


If they harmed someone I would call the police without hesitation, even if it was an accident.
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LinkPizza
09/25/18 12:28:22 AM
#28:


It depends on like everything. Like who is was, who the victim was(if there was one), what the actual crime was, their reasons, and things like that. So, yeah...

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Well I'd rather die than be sodomised, so...

Wow... I wouldn't have guessed. But I agree with what Troll_Police_ said...
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Zeus
09/25/18 2:57:58 AM
#29:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zeus posted...
murder is objectively worse than rape.

Well I'd rather die than be sodomised, so...


People say that, but victims who were raped by armed assailants never seem to take the option of being shot or stabbed. People will go to almost unimaginable lengths to stay alive -- including cannibalism to avoid starvation -- so it seems more likely that victims would do what it takes to survive.

Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...

More to the point, murder is objectively worse than rape.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="


No, please, explain in detail why you feel that rape is worse than murder. We're all dying to hear you explain the rationale behind your ridiculous opinion.

InhumaneRaider posted...
Zeus posted...
Anybody who could make a convoluted justification for murder could make a convoluted justification for rape (or, more realistically, an excuse for it). Likewise, people who could justify concealing a murder could easily justify covering up a rape.

Well, there's self-defense, accidental, revenge, cold-blooded. There's some intricacy to murder...

Rape...mmm, not so much.


Not really true, since for starters if you sleep with a drunk chick even when you're also drunk, you can be convicted of rape. And there are legislators trying to push through affirmative consent laws where passive consent (ie, she doesn't say no or otherwise refuse, but she's not enthusiastic) is considered rape. And that's not even touching on AoC laws where it's legally rape even if the girl not only lies about her age, but is carrying a fake ID attesting to that age.

And, while you somehow think "revenge" is a justifiable reason for murder (which it absolutely isn't), I should point out that rape has *also* been used for revenge both as a cultural practice in some nations (usually retaliating for rape or even a consensual sexual encounter outside marriage) and on a personal basis in other places. But, again, "revenge" isn't a justifiable reason for those kinds of crimes.

synth_real posted...
If somebody I trusted murdered somebody, I'd probably be the guy they called to help them dispose of the body.


Which I imagine is the problem with owning a shovel and a pickup truck.
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Monopoman
09/25/18 3:00:04 AM
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Keep in mind that if you know someone killed another person and it comes out that you knew and didn't say shit they can send your ass to jail.
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Bugmeat
09/25/18 3:30:34 AM
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It depends on the specifics. Like did he murder the guy that has been raping his little sister? In a case like that I'd be right there helping him dispose of the body, clean up any potential evidence as well as being his alibi.
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Zeus
09/25/18 3:32:58 AM
#32:


Monopoman posted...
Keep in mind that if you know someone killed another person and it comes out that you knew and didn't say shit they can send your ass to jail.


Which is true of any serious crime, not just murder.
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TheCyborgNinja
09/25/18 3:40:55 AM
#33:


Yes. I wouldn't think twice about it or feel any remorse. A criminal is a criminal and I would lose all respect for anyone choosing that path, family or not.
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Kungfu Kenobi
09/25/18 4:02:14 AM
#34:


I didn't give them up for the shit they've already done, I'm not about to start now.
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Unbridled9
09/25/18 4:17:07 AM
#35:


Ummm... That... depends a lot on the crime. If we're talking along the lines of murder and rape, yes. If we're talking something minor though...
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ParanoidObsessive
09/25/18 6:35:06 AM
#36:


Zeus posted...
Monopoman posted...
Keep in mind that if you know someone killed another person and it comes out that you knew and didn't say shit they can send your ass to jail.

Which is true of any serious crime, not just murder.

Not exactly.

It isn't actually a crime to know a crime has been committed and make no effort to report it or aid the police in solving it. At least not in most jurisdictions, as far as I know.

You CAN be charged as an "accessory after-the-fact", but that requires you to have actively aided the criminal while aware of their crime. Things like helping hide evidence, lying to police, or otherwise acting to interfere with their being caught fall under that umbrella, but merely failing to actively volunteer information to the authorities doesn't.

Basically, you're never legally obligated to "snitch", no matter the crime. But if the police come and start asking you questions, and you're evasive or outright lie, that's when the problems begin.


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SmokeMassTree
09/25/18 6:41:50 AM
#37:


Hell nah. We ride together, we die together. Idgaf what they did.

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Revelation34
09/25/18 5:50:52 PM
#38:


Zeus posted...
No, please, explain in detail why you feel that rape is worse than murder. We're all dying to hear you explain the rationale behind your ridiculous opinion.


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