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Anagram 09/24/18 8:24:54 PM #1: |
Inquiring minds want to know.
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ZenOfThunder 09/24/18 8:26:49 PM #2: |
yes they are
Yoshi and WarioLand/Ware are subdivisions of the Mario series which is a shared universe with the Donkey Kong series the end --- Curator of the Character Battle X Archive https://bit.ly/2NEbCdA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 09/24/18 8:29:39 PM #3: |
Bowsette for Smash
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ninkendo 09/24/18 8:31:24 PM #4: |
Super Mario extended universe
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Panthera 09/24/18 8:40:19 PM #5: |
Wario is a Mario character. Yoshi is, for no apparent reason, a Pokemon character. Luigi is a Mario character, Peach is a Mario character, but Mario is a Luigi character.
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Shonen_Bat 09/24/18 8:41:52 PM #6: |
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Kamekguy 09/24/18 8:50:28 PM #7: |
Dedede is a character from the King Dedede's Drumdash Deluxe series.
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TomNook7 09/24/18 9:03:36 PM #8: |
Grand Kirby posted...
Bowsette for Smash Now this i can get behind --- Genesis does what Nintendon't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 09/24/18 9:07:55 PM #9: |
If you want to say where the line is; Yoshi still consistently has non-cameo appearances in mainline Mario games, whereas Donkey Kong and Wario do not.
I mean I still see Wario as a Mario character just because he's named after him but I would say it's reasonable to say he's separate. Yoshi still can't get away though. Also, technically Mario Bros. is a spinoff of the Donkey Kong series, so they're all part of his universe, which is linked to Banjo-Kazooie, which is linked to Sonic the Hedgehog, which is linked to Danica Patrick, who is a real person so in actuality we are all a spinoff of Donkey Kong. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/24/18 9:13:07 PM #10: |
Kingdom Battle ties Mario to Rayman, right?
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Grand Kirby 09/24/18 9:21:09 PM #11: |
Hard to say... I haven't played it.
As far as my canon rules go there's a difference between crossovers where it's like "Hey, we both turn out to randomly exist in the same universe" and ones where it's "we took a interdimensional portal and wound up in this universe". So Archie and The Punisher are in the same universe, but not Superman and Bugs Bunny. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/24/18 9:32:02 PM #12: |
I'll keep my thoughts super simple as to not drag it into this topic:
A character is a "____ character" of whatever series people will recognize them most from, not counting mashups like Smash Bros. Shadow has his own game, but a vast majority of people still recognize him as a Sonic character. Wario has WarioWare, but most people recognize him from Mario games. Same with Yoshi. Most people do not recognize Donkey Kong as a Mario character, so he's basically the line where he's still his own thing despite appearing in a bunch of Mario spin-offs. So to me... 1. If your solo games haven't gotten big enough to where most people recognize you for those over the original series and/or 2. If your solo game appearances are vastly outnumbered by your appearances in the original series then I still consider the character as part of that series. Yoshi's mainline Mario appearances match or outnumber the number of Yoshi games, total, and a majority of people still recognize Wario from Mario Party/Kart/Sports/etc., so I see nothing wrong with counting them as "Mario characters." There's nothing saying they can't be both, but saying "They're not Mario characters" is kinda silly. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 09/24/18 9:49:01 PM #13: |
Grand Kirby posted...
Bowsette for Smash --- NNID, PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 DD:DA Pawn: Xekoben the support mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 09/24/18 9:51:05 PM #14: |
Grand Kirby posted...
which is linked to Banjo-Kazooie, What links them to BK? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 09/24/18 10:11:06 PM #15: |
Diddy Kong Racing
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Anagram 09/24/18 10:11:50 PM #16: |
If DKR counts, then Mario is also linked to Pac-Man via that one Mario Kart game.
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StealThisSheen 09/24/18 10:17:19 PM #17: |
Pac-Man is linked to both Street Fighter and Tekken, which means Ryu is a Mario character in Smash
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Anagram 09/24/18 10:21:48 PM #18: |
Street Fighter has a character in Tekken, and Tekken has a character in Soul Calibur. That nets you Star Wars, God of War, Spawn, and the Tales of series.
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Kenri 09/24/18 10:28:55 PM #19: |
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Johnbobb 09/24/18 10:34:12 PM #20: |
oh my god
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bwburke94 09/25/18 2:48:19 AM #21: |
Are we going full Tommy Westphall on this now?
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scarletspeed7 09/25/18 2:51:59 AM #22: |
If we go full Tommy Westphall, I just want to remind everyone that Dexter takes place in the same universe as The Office.
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MoogleKupo141 09/25/18 3:09:02 AM #23: |
What connects those two? Did Dexter kill the Scranton Strangler?
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scarletspeed7 09/25/18 3:19:19 AM #24: |
Dexter's lab prints on a Sabre printer.
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MoogleKupo141 09/25/18 4:57:35 AM #25: |
wait now Dexter's Lab is involved?
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eaedwards6400 09/25/18 8:12:45 AM #26: |
I'm gonna say Yoshi, yes and Wario, no.
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charmander6000 09/25/18 11:33:52 AM #27: |
Yeah, Wario is more like Donkey Kong, they exist in the same universe, but they do their own thing outside of kart/sports/party. He's a Wario character first and a Mario character second at best.
Yoshi still hangs out with Mario on a semi-consistent basis. There was a time where Nintendo may have planned to separate him during the mid-90s and you could argue they are trying again now, but at this point he's still a Mario character with a bunch of side games. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 09/25/18 11:34:07 AM #28: |
Wario was while Wario Land was all he had, but once WarioWare came along and established his own universe that was enough to branch him off
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Tom Bombadil 09/25/18 11:38:21 AM #29: |
this is the most b8 argument
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HashtagSEP 09/25/18 11:54:51 AM #31: |
...Actually, I'm wrong. It didn't start over an "X has too many characters" argument
It started because somebody said the Mario series has gotten a new character every game and then "but wario" Whoa I am sorry for taking part --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SantaRPidgey 09/25/18 12:04:16 PM #32: |
I don't understand why these characters can't just be called "mario characters with their own series" in this way, even if we get a Birdo FPS between now and Smash Supernova, we could still consider her a mario addition
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Tom Bombadil 09/25/18 12:31:18 PM #33: |
SantaRPidgey posted...
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GeneralKenobi85 09/25/18 1:33:51 PM #34: |
I think they're definitely Mario characters, but it's okay to count them toward their own series for Smash.
You could easily make a Smash Bros. game filled solely with Mario characters and it would be pretty damn fun. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 09/25/18 2:08:43 PM #35: |
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I think they're definitely Mario characters, but it's okay to count them toward their own series for Smash. All of you prepare to lose to the Wiggler! --- Cheer, Cheer for Old Notre Dame! GO VOTE FOR UCA! ~Join B8 on TEW!~ http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9339/7vke.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 09/25/18 2:44:36 PM #36: |
ninkendo posted...
Yoshi has not done enough as his games are still just variations of Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island ...so? That's what makes a Yoshi game. --- NNID, PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 DD:DA Pawn: Xekoben the support mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 09/25/18 6:03:05 PM #37: |
thank you for confirming a yoshi game is a mario game
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Waluigi1 09/25/18 7:00:18 PM #38: |
ninkendo posted...
thank you for confirming a yoshi game is a mario game What? I'm confised... SMW2 is a Yoshi game regardless of being a sequel to World. --- NNID, PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 DD:DA Pawn: Xekoben the support mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Luis_Sera89 09/26/18 6:35:15 AM #39: |
I like how they've taken the next logical step from the type of Pokemon Steven uses by making a metal remix of his champion theme.
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Lightning Strikes 09/26/18 6:46:24 AM #40: |
Wario is definitively not. He only has one appearance in the Super Mario series (other than SM64DS, which was a remake), Super Mario Land 2, and the rest are in spinoffs or his own series, similar to Mario relative to Donkey Kong.
Yoshi is borderline since he is probably more commonly associated with his own series, but has also been in almost every Super Mario game since his debut. He's like Luigi basically, and I believe is in as many mainline Super Mario games since Super Mario World. I would say Yoshi is a Mario character with his own series. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh BKSheikah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 09/26/18 9:59:15 AM #41: |
Seph or we riot!
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HashtagSEP 09/26/18 10:08:55 AM #42: |
Actually, here's fool-proof reasoning for why Wario is a Mario character despite what all you haters insist
Wario is in the Mario & Sonic series under the Team Mario banner. Surely he didn't just do this out of the kindness of his heart. Mario claimed him. He. Hath. Been. Claimed. Meanwhile, Donkey Kong was not initially in the series and Mario had to ask nicely. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/26/18 10:23:08 AM #43: |
Someone from the Mushroom Kingdom should sue Wario for his that derivative design he has while not being a Mario character
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Johnbobb 09/26/18 10:49:38 AM #44: |
jesus christ can someone just leak something so we can change the subject already
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TomNook7 09/26/18 10:53:13 AM #45: |
Im legit buttmad Dr. Mario dont have his own icon
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Tom Bombadil 09/26/18 11:27:24 AM #46: |
attempted subject change: what are the odds peach gets a bowsette costume
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WhiteLens 09/26/18 11:28:11 AM #47: |
Peach should get a Shadow Queen alt first.
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NFUN 09/26/18 12:21:36 PM #48: |
Tom Bombadil posted...
attempted subject change: what are the odds peach gets a bowsette costume 0 --- Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Luis_Sera89 09/26/18 12:29:43 PM #49: |
Nintendo would have to even acknowledge it's existence first.
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Jakyl25 09/26/18 12:42:45 PM #50: |
Well yeah
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mnkboy907 09/26/18 12:45:05 PM #51: |
I think Rosalina is better proportioned for it, but that pesky Luma would get in the way.
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