Board 8 > Survivor: David vs. Goliath Discussion Topic 1: Featuring Golevel 6 vs. FOUDAVID

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Underleveled
10/11/18 8:03:04 PM
#401:


I'm trying to re-watch a part of last night's Survivor, but whenever I go to play the free episode it just starts me about a tenth of a second from the end and then tries to autoplay an episode of Big Brother that's unavailable so it redirects me to sign up for All Access.

So fuck that.

EDIT: But I found what I wanted anyway.
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Underleveled
10/11/18 8:07:54 PM
#402:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Also, I wonder if Bi is gonna get medievaced (they mentioned this last night on KIAs) cause 17 seems weird for 2 or 3 tribes. So I wonder if it is 2 tribes of 8.

This made me curious, so I analyzed the episode preview.

In the first shot from far away she's clearly standing next to Lyrsa and in front of Christian, but when it zooms in she doesn't appear to be there. Could be something, could be nothing.
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CoolCly
10/11/18 8:23:24 PM
#403:


goddamn i miss peridiam
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BlueCrystalTear
10/11/18 8:24:44 PM
#404:


Eaed, you had no reason to get personal there. I am NOTHING like MWC and for you to attack me like that proves to me that you are, in fact, our MWC.

Goodbye. Sorry I ever took you off ignore.
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CoolCly
10/11/18 8:30:04 PM
#405:


what did he do, tell you that your paranoid rambling about misogyny was not unbiased?
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Mewtwo59
10/11/18 8:32:01 PM
#406:


I doubt Bi is going to get medievaced. Abi tore her ACL on Phillipines and she didn't get medievaced. I think Jeff Kent also tore something and didn't get medievaced either. They might vote her out because of it, but I don't think they'll pull her from the game.
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BlueCrystalTear
10/11/18 8:34:33 PM
#407:


CoolCly posted...
what did he do, tell you that your paranoid rambling about misogyny was not unbiased?

Nobody is fully unbiased. I was just reporting from my understanding. He had no idea to make a personal attack over that, and he ended up in his rightful place: My ignore list.
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GTM
10/11/18 8:48:49 PM
#408:


Well, you're not as bad as MWC at times cause at least I see you saying one of your points is conjecture, and you're not caps lock screaming all the time but

Her contract was not renewed due to Probst's misogyny.


This is a very MWC way of connecting things to fit your narrative.

EDIT: Not meant as a personal attack btw, nor do I think eaed was either.
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GTM
10/11/18 8:49:46 PM
#409:


CoolCly posted...
goddamn i miss peridiam


We're worse than youtube commenters to him!
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Eddv
10/11/18 8:55:38 PM
#410:


I don't know that you can hold wild conjecture against Andy after he said he would be engaging in wild conjecture.

But thats me!
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GTM
10/11/18 9:00:48 PM
#411:


the quoted statement was made before he said he was making conjecture!
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Underleveled
10/11/18 9:07:25 PM
#412:


I mean let's be real here, Andy, when it comes to overreacting and leaps of logic, you're a pretty big offender. It was poor etiquette of eaed to compare two users who rarely interact in a negative manner, but we could run down a list of times you've done this.

I'm not trying to be mean just trying to get you to be reasonable here.
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BlueCrystalTear
10/11/18 9:14:11 PM
#413:


I don't make leaps of logic.

Overreacting, however, that I openly admit to. It happens.
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eaedwards6400
10/11/18 10:01:28 PM
#414:


GTM posted...
Well, you're not as bad as MWC at times cause at least I see you saying one of your points is conjecture, and you're not caps lock screaming all the time but

Her contract was not renewed due to Probst's misogyny.


This is a very MWC way of connecting things to fit your narrative.

EDIT: Not meant as a personal attack btw, nor do I think eaed was either.


Thank you very much, GTM.

CoolCly posted...
goddamn i miss peridiam


So much this. He has a pretty good following on Twitter though.

BlueCrystalTear posted...
I don't make leaps of logic.

Overreacting, however, that I openly admit to. It happens.


I mean, the kind of thing I'm talking about is what GTM said and then things like when you said Big Brother would be cancelled if JC won.. but christ I should remember that you're so sensitive that you need treated with kid gloves. Especially considering ever criticism thrown your way you do the "I'm rubber you're glue" defense. Not that you can see any of this anyways because again you're so overly sensitive.
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Underleveled
10/11/18 10:14:26 PM
#415:


I mean, Peridiam ragequit the board because he couldn't handle other people having an opinion.
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The Mana Sword
10/11/18 10:15:41 PM
#416:


Naomi was good and dont really blame him for leaving tbqh
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Underleveled
10/11/18 10:23:30 PM
#417:


I gotta say, back when Philippines was airing, Inviso and I took a lot of crap for liking Abi. And it wasn't just general negativity towards her, like, people were directing crap at us for liking her. And we toughed it out.

Going further back, Inviso had to sit through three months of the "this season sucks" show during Nicaragua, a season he was really enjoying.
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Eddv
10/11/18 10:24:48 PM
#418:


You guys were still wrong about Abi tbh.
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The Mana Sword
10/11/18 10:27:23 PM
#419:


That fine. Naomi is fortunate enough to have other outlets on the internet to discuss Survivor and I dont fault him for not wanting to hang around if he doesnt enjoy the company.
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eaedwards6400
10/11/18 11:19:31 PM
#420:


Underleveled posted...
I mean, Peridiam ragequit the board because he couldn't handle other people having an opinion.


It wasnt a rage quit. The dude couldn't handle the HUGE amount of negativity you guys were bringing to a very good BB season and it can get very grading when something like that happens for what feels like a 5th season in a row between survivor and bb
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Underleveled
10/11/18 11:28:53 PM
#421:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Underleveled posted...
I mean, Peridiam ragequit the board because he couldn't handle other people having an opinion.


It wasnt a rage quit. The dude couldn't handle the HUGE amount of negativity you guys were bringing to a very good BB season and it can get very grading when something like that happens for what feels like a 5th season in a row between survivor and bb

I'll reiterate.

Underleveled posted...
I gotta say, back when Philippines was airing, Inviso and I took a lot of crap for liking Abi. And it wasn't just general negativity towards her, like, people were directing crap at us for liking her. And we toughed it out.

Going further back, Inviso had to sit through three months of the "this season sucks" show during Nicaragua, a season he was really enjoying.

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CoolCly
10/11/18 11:32:20 PM
#422:


okay Natalie
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eaedwards6400
10/11/18 11:39:20 PM
#423:


I wasnt around then lol
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Inviso
10/11/18 11:51:46 PM
#424:


It was good IN YOUR OPINION. BB20 SUCKED if you weren't rooting whole-heartedly for Level 6. Not that FOUTTE was necessarily made up entirely of GOOD players, characters, or even PEOPLE, but BB20 was extremely one-sided in favor of personalities that, while you may have enjoyed them for showcasing solid gameplay, did not bring much in terms of drama of liveliness of personality.

I've been negative a lot, and I admit that. But I'd argue that it's not just me going out of my way to be a negative nancy.

Big Brother has had the same problem for, I'd argue, the last SEVEN seasons. The show is just TOO long nowadays, and a longer season leads to dominant alliances taking control and running large swaths of the season, which in turn allows players that hang back and keep their heads down to come on strong late in the season, to disappointment among the fans. I personally enjoyed BB17, but it falls within this same framework, and it's problematic.

With Survivor, it's been a similar scenario ever since Cambodia filmed, where the producers learned that they could focus more on strategy and forcing twists into the game to get a short-term rush of adrenaline without really giving the fans the long-term story that allows them to look back on the season positively.

When I'm ultra-negative, it's more often in reaction to what I feel is undue positivity. When fans are too willing to accept a flawed season, it allows the producers to keep piling on crap over and over and over again and resulting in weaker and weaker seasons where they might try to fix what made fans less-than-happy about a specific season, while completely ignoring the underlying issues. It doesn't help that fans are fickle and can't come to a consensus about what they actually LIKE (I've said it before...the only difference between Cambodia and Game Changers is the cast, yet Cambodia received an above-average reaction, while Game Changers is outright hated.)

Meanwhile, I CAN be super positive. I LOVED the beginning of Game Changers because it wasn't until the endgame that those massive flaws really reared their ugly heads. I similarly loved HHH until the last two episodes. I liked BB20 until the jury started. Hell, I LOVE all three episodes of DvG thus far. I'm just sayin'.
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Peridiam
10/12/18 12:35:06 AM
#425:


Woops. A w k w a r d.

Hey, I still lurk. Have been since Survivor started not long ago. Believe it or not, I value the dissenting opinions too. Even though I dont always agree with Inviso, Ive always appreciated his ability to thoroughly explain himself. Its been 10 years of reading his thoughts, I would be lying if I said I didnt take into account his disdain for seasons like BB20 (and other popular seasons most fans love). Many times Ive been convinced (without expressing it) to change my opinion, or even my line of thinking, because others disagree and can explain themselves.

I wasnt mad then or now, darkx.

I mean really, Im not sure I wouldve made making Survivor/BB YouTube videos my #1 hobby for the past year if I couldnt stomach others opinions. Believe me, I get a lot of undue vitriol for the stupidest shit thanks to YouTube.

I said I would stop posting because all I was doing was feeling combative whenever I came here. I dont like to feel combative over something I try to have fun with. Especially with a group of people Ive been relatively close to for nearly a decade. And I was feeling combative because there was an immense (to me) amount of bashing. The conversation was only negative and lead to arguments between the, I dont know, 4 active regulars here for BB20?

Not that I inherently dislike conflict, I just need a balance. I said the same thing back then before I stopped posting: I wasnt enjoying myself. So instead of engaging with something that was draining me, or demanding others to change to my liking, I said I would remove myself to avoid the conflict and focus my energy elsewhere.

That was it!

Im still here. Im very much enjoying DvG. Im more just in a lurking state.
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Underleveled
10/12/18 12:41:03 AM
#426:


Well I'll be damned.

Glad to see you havent abandoned us entirely.
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GTM
10/12/18 1:12:31 AM
#427:


I went back and watched peridiam's bb20 pre-game interview criticism thing that he did while drunk or whatever

social game
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Peridiam
10/12/18 1:39:38 AM
#428:


Underleveled posted...
Well I'll be damned.

Glad to see you havent abandoned us entirely.

You summoned me!

GTM posted...
I went back and watched peridiam's bb20 pre-game interview criticism thing that he did while drunk or whatever

social game

I really wanted to do this for DvG but when I started to watch the pre-season cast vids (which were like 45 secs and only on Twitter, ugh), I quickly realized there wasn't much for me to say. People pitching themselves is kinda less interesting than them being interviewed/shaded by Ross or Ika.


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GTM
10/12/18 2:39:28 AM
#429:


while we're making wrestling topic analogies, when did peridiam become jakyl?
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The Mana Sword
10/12/18 3:31:35 AM
#430:


I bet Peridiam would post more if people started watching The Genius

@X_Dante_X
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X_Dante_X
10/12/18 3:41:12 AM
#431:


he's right you know
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eaedwards6400
10/12/18 9:16:23 AM
#432:


GTM posted...
while we're making wrestling topic analogies, when did peridiam become jakyl?


I have been thinking this for a couple of months actually. Maybe even during the rankdown
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Underleveled
10/12/18 10:10:18 AM
#433:


I just looked at the contestants' ages and many of them surprised me. Like, Alison is my age WTF? I would have said like, 36.
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wg64Z
10/12/18 10:28:23 AM
#434:


The prodigal son has returned.

I agree with what you said though Peridiam, it's better to remove yourself from a space you feel is toxic rather than waste hours trying to combat it, just ruins the experience of something you enjoy doing that way. That said, I hope going forward you feel more comfortable posting here again.

Side note, did this episode feel like it was done by an entirely different editing team from the first two? This felt like the modern Survivor style of editing I've come to...accept. Where as the first 2 episodes were beautifully done.
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Espeon
10/12/18 10:29:29 AM
#435:


What do you mean?
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GTM
10/14/18 4:40:47 AM
#436:


bump
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Peridiam
10/14/18 10:44:33 PM
#437:


What's this about me and Jakyl?
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Espeon
10/15/18 10:26:43 AM
#438:


Peridiam posted...
What's this about me and Jakyl?


You guys are in a showmance that, if revealed, will break up your marriage.
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eaedwards6400
10/15/18 2:06:26 PM
#439:


Production photo spoiler:

We going to three tribes
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Underleveled
10/15/18 4:32:28 PM
#440:


(No spoilers about the above spoiler, just my reaction)

shocker.
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GTM
10/16/18 9:10:17 PM
#441:


I cant wait till the season is over so I can read all these spoilers
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bwburke94
10/17/18 9:55:25 AM
#442:


Following up on the above spoilers, the third tribe is named Tiva, which likely indicates new names for the other two tribes as well.
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Inviso
10/17/18 8:02:21 PM
#443:


Well, that was fast.
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QJD1381
10/17/18 8:02:26 PM
#444:


Welp, just like that.
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The Mana Sword
10/17/18 8:02:39 PM
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eaedwards6400
10/17/18 8:02:41 PM
#446:


They were wasting no time.
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eaedwards6400
10/17/18 8:03:28 PM
#447:


Calling that a quit, huh?
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eaedwards6400
10/17/18 8:04:48 PM
#448:


Christian and John are gonna be on the same tribe! Couldn't ask for better! Lol
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Inviso
10/17/18 8:07:05 PM
#449:


Between the recap giving credit to Angelina for Jeremy's boot, and the make-up of her tribe being arguably the weakest of the three (with Natalie and Mike as her Goliath buddies), I'm predicting Angelina goes out tonight.
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QJD1381
10/17/18 8:07:26 PM
#450:


Goliath are gonna eat each other at tribal, the David will probably be alright.
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