Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 10: We reject the ideology of globalism

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LinkMarioSamus
10/08/18 4:07:49 AM
#51:


Self-projection at its best. There is no angry left-wing mob. There are just some voices who go too far and spoil the whole thing.

Trump and his supporters exhibit far more characteristics of a mob mentality. Lock her up indeed.
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Vlado
10/08/18 4:16:51 AM
#52:


Trump calling out soros:

The very rude elevator screamers are paid professionals only looking to make Senators look bad. Dont fall for it! Also, look at all of the professionally made identical signs. Paid for by Soros and others. These are not signs made in the basement from love! #Troublemakers

Also, Kurt Russell is another heroic actor!

Whether you love or hate him, Trumps ascendancy to the presidency was a once-in-a-century miracle. He was literally the Man Without a Party, yet beat 16 primary competitors and an opponent whose victory was her manifest destiny. It was a political feat unequaled in history.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/08/18 8:17:13 AM
#53:


Vlado posted...
lmfao, imagine believing that nonsense.


https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.543523034.6340/flat,750x1000,075,t.u1.jpg
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Vlado
10/08/18 8:22:21 AM
#54:


I gave you the argument right under your quote. -_- Don't be so trigger-happy.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/08/18 9:15:32 AM
#55:


yeah, ford didn't pursue further allegations because kavanaugh is innocent. i'm sure it's not because she was receiving death threats and was humiliated, mocked and bashed into the ground by tons of people (including the president).
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LinkMarioSamus
10/08/18 9:16:36 AM
#56:


Yeah why do you think it took so long for Weinstein to be brought to justice?
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Vlado
10/08/18 11:27:50 AM
#57:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, ford didn't pursue further allegations because kavanaugh is innocent.

Indeed.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/08/18 11:38:24 AM
#58:


if he's innocent, why did he lie about a gazillion things in his testimony?
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Hardcore_Adult
10/08/18 1:29:45 PM
#59:


Hey, Vlado.

Had Thatcher not kicked ye olde bucket 5yrs ago, what would have been your take on her, having "done your homework" on "The Iron Lady?"
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Vlado
10/09/18 7:29:27 AM
#60:


I haven't got a strong opinion on Thatcher - she did some things right, but obviously not enough to stop her country from falling on the downward spiral it's on right now.
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LinkMarioSamus
10/09/18 8:37:49 AM
#61:


Dismissing a potential rape victim solely due to the timing of their accusation is pure misogyny. Plain and simple.
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Vlado
10/09/18 12:39:17 PM
#62:


So, warmonger Haley has quit. I sure hope Trump appoints someone much more moderate in that position.

https://www.rt.com/usa/440773-trump-accepted-nikki-resignation/

Great tweet by Greenwald, btw:

Before John Bolton's hiring, Nikki Haley was probably the most pro-war, pro-imperialist high-ranking Trump official, and therefore the most beloved Trump official by the war-loving US media. She held every conventional foreign policy view that has generated so much destruction.

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Jakyl25
10/09/18 12:41:55 PM
#63:


I hate it when I have to agree with you
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Jakyl25
10/09/18 12:45:11 PM
#64:


Trump said that he hopes Haley will one day return to his administration, and told her you can have your pick of positions within it.


That doesnt sound very promising though
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Hardcore_Adult
10/09/18 3:20:58 PM
#65:


Vlado posted...
I haven't got a strong opinion on Thatcher - she did some things right, but obviously not enough to stop her country from falling on the downward spiral it's on right now.


It's Documented that her opposition was way worse but by 1989 (if not 1986) everyone had had enough!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnl75WA7xEU" data-time="


This song couldn't have been about anyone else.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/09/18 4:55:22 PM
#66:


ooh nice, a song from my favorite simply red album.
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Hardcore_Adult
10/10/18 5:32:45 AM
#67:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
ooh nice, a song from my favorite simply red album.


The Tory-Burning doesn't stop there. "Turn it up", which has Mick farming truth

If you're sick, then you're lonely/Out of work, then you're hungry/the sentence is four years more
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Vlado
10/10/18 7:40:15 AM
#68:


Thanks for the cool song! :) What can I say, Corbyn FTW. He's the only viable option for Britain to take at least one step away from globalism. I am impressed he's still holding the power in his party, after so many attacks from outside and within. It shows strength.

Jakyl25 posted...
I hate it when I have to agree with you

:) It's one point where we converge with extreme leftists. The endless wars for the sake of the military-industrial complex need to be stopped.

Jakyl25 posted...
Trump said that he hopes Haley will one day return to his administration, and told her you can have your pick of positions within it.


That doesnt sound very promising though

Hopefully just lip service.

Meanwhile, another BOMBSHELL evidence of google's EXTREME bias and censorship:

An internal company briefing produced by Google and leaked exclusively to Breitbart News argues that due to a variety of factors, including the election of President Trump, the American tradition of free speech on the internet is no longer viable.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-leaked-google-briefing-admits-abandonment-of-free-speech-for-safety-and-civility/
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Vlado
10/10/18 9:19:44 AM
#69:


Sexist AI recruiting tool discriminates against women.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/10/amazon-scraps-a-secret-ai-recruiting-tool-that-showed-bias-against-women.html

top fucking kek
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Kenri
10/10/18 11:54:30 AM
#70:


Sounds like a successful replication of real hiring practices.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/10/18 2:56:58 PM
#71:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
The Tory-Burning doesn't stop there. "Turn it up", which has Mick farming truth

If you're sick, then you're lonely/Out of work, then you're hungry/the sentence is four years more


yeah, mick can get pretty political. this is also apparent in money's too tight (to mention) (though he didn't write that song).
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Hardcore_Adult
10/10/18 3:07:25 PM
#72:


^ He went that way with Come to My Aid and Jericho on Picture Book (an album I suggested for entry a B8 best albums tourney but cruelly mocked for it :( )

In fact some of the best 80s tunes were "Struggle Jams"

Living in a Box (from the group of the same name0
Forgotten Town by the Christians
Run DMC It's like that
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Mr Lasastryke
10/10/18 3:11:27 PM
#73:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
^ He went that way with Come to My Aid and Jericho


true.

Picture Book (an album I suggested for entry a B8 best albums tourney but cruelly mocked for it :( )


my board 8 wiki entry still reports that i "have no brains" for liking simply red as much as i do. this board just doesn't know what good music is :-P

picture book is a great album, though i prefer a new flame.
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Hardcore_Adult
10/10/18 3:15:52 PM
#74:


^ Unless it's screamo rock with cut-your-own-throat-before-the-end-of-the-first-verse lyrics, B8 don't wanna know.

But ANF is a solid album.
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Vlado
10/11/18 2:32:31 PM
#75:


BBC broke the stupidmeter with their globalist idiocy (WARNING: EXTREME UGLINESS)
https://www.rt.com/uk/440862-glamrou-bbc-gender-video/
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Vlado
10/12/18 4:26:31 AM
#76:


facebook doubling down on the censorship... Do they think they can put the cat back in the bag? Even they are not that stupid. This is damage control, and blind hope that people will sit down and take it. They will not. These brainlets truly believe they're too big to fail...

https://www.rt.com/usa/441040-facebook-deplatforms-political-pages/

And ISIS seize chemical weapons from Al-Qaeda in Syria (the ones that Assad was going to gas innocent babies with, of course). You can't make this thing up!

https://www.rt.com/news/440912-isis-seizes-chlorine-white-helmets/
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Vlado
10/12/18 5:38:09 AM
#77:


Here's a fine example of how utterly idiotic materialism is:

Goldman Sachs aide plunges from a hotel balcony after stealing bosss wine worth $1.2m

https://www.rt.com/usa/440847-goldman-sachs-wine-theft-suicide/

Reject this idiocy.
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Vlado
10/12/18 8:25:49 AM
#78:


No surprise some of these sites were banned... Globalist corporations don't like being exposed for treating 1984 as an instruction manual.
https://pressfortruth.ca/top-stories/google-hub-and-facebook-portal-make-orwells-1984-reality/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbHFlEQopkI" data-time="

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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/18 8:42:38 AM
#79:


Vlado posted...
Here's a fine example of how utterly idiotic materialism is:


you do know materialism is associated with the right moreso than the left?
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Vlado
10/12/18 9:18:44 AM
#80:


That kind of statement really leaves me dumbstruck.

...What? The left is more or less built upon rejection of Christ, Christian values and morality.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/18 9:34:52 AM
#81:


Vlado posted...
The left is more or less built upon rejection of Christ, Christian values and morality.


first of all, this is total bullshit. tons of leftists are christians.

second of all, are you saying that being a christian and being materialistic are mutually exclusive? watch a televangelist sometime.
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Espeon
10/12/18 9:40:08 AM
#82:


Vlado posted...
That kind of statement really leaves me dumbstruck.

...What? The left is more or less built upon rejection of Christ, Christian values and morality.


If you want to go that route, its not just the left. The developed world in general rejects all of those things. Just because the right loves to yell and scream about how much they love Jesus doesnt mean theyre actually abiding by his teachings.
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ColZach
10/12/18 9:48:32 AM
#83:


The right doesnt even follow the teachings of Christianity, in fact they spend most of their time dissenting
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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/18 10:05:20 AM
#84:


i also like the total intellectual laziness of the "IF YOU REJECT JESUS YOU'RE MATERIALISTIC" reasoning, as if jesus was the only "philsopher" (he wasn't really one) in history who was anti-materialism. the stoics rejected materialism centuries before jesus said anything on the matter.
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10/12/18 10:11:04 AM
#85:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i also like the total intellectual laziness of the "IF YOU REJECT JESUS YOU'RE MATERIALISTIC" reasoning, as if jesus was the only "philsopher" (he wasn't really one) in history who was anti-materialism. the stoics rejected materialism centuries before jesus said anything on the matter.

Save yourself some keystrokes: It's not intellectually lazy, it's just stupid.
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Vlado
10/13/18 3:30:28 PM
#86:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
first of all, this is total bullshit. tons of leftists are christians.

Not really. Claiming you're Christian and actually following the teachings of Christ are two different things.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
second of all, are you saying that being a christian and being materialistic are mutually exclusive? watch a televangelist sometime.

I'm saying a real Christian is not a materialist.

ColZach posted...
The right doesnt even follow the teachings of Christianity, in fact they spend most of their time dissenting

Wrong. That's the left.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i also like the total intellectual laziness of the "IF YOU REJECT JESUS YOU'RE MATERIALISTIC" reasoning, as if jesus was the only "philsopher" (he wasn't really one) in history who was anti-materialism. the stoics rejected materialism centuries before jesus said anything on the matter.

Read what I wrote again. The left reject morality (often replacing it with pseudo-morality like the bolshevik blabber, or, more recently, the SJW movement). In essence, the belief of the left is that there's no right or wrong, just "different people/cultures," which is nothing but rejection of morality. The left reject the spiritual, e.g. morality, and idolise the material, e.g. human sins.

The Owner of FF9 posted...
Save yourself some keystrokes: It's not intellectually lazy, it's just stupid.

Calling the other side "stupid" won't make you right. In fact, nothing will.
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Jakyl25
10/14/18 1:07:25 AM
#87:


Vlado posted...
In essence, the belief of the left is that there's no right or wrong


How can you reconcile that with what you call the SJW movement? Isnt that all about telling people theyre wrong?
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/18 4:09:15 AM
#89:


Pretty sure Jesus wouldn't be down with all of the murderous dictators you support, Vlado!
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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/18 9:41:08 AM
#90:


Vlado posted...
Claiming you're Christian and actually following the teachings of Christ are two different things.


some leftists do follow the teachings of christ (probably not the majority, though).

I'm saying a real Christian is not a materialist.


loads of people on the right aren't "real christians" either. i probably know the bible better than a ton of "christians."

In essence, the belief of the left is that there's no right or wrong, just "different people/cultures," which is nothing but rejection of morality. The left reject the spiritual, e.g. morality, and idolise the material, e.g. human sins.


uh... i don't even know where to start with this little gem.

1) that different people and cultures exist is a fact. it seems to me that you're acknowledging this as well, given that you often talk about the danger of islam taking over western culture. if there were no different cultures, this danger wouldn't exist. just because you acknowledge different cultures exist doesn't mean you're "saying there is no right or wrong." these two things have nothing to do with each other. it seems like you're referring to postmodern philosophy here, but the amount of leftists who adhere to this philosophy is hardly the majority.
2) the idea that morals can only come from the spiritual is total bullshit. i don't consider myself to be a spiritual (or religious) person in the slightest but i still have morals. i realize that murder is wrong, for instance.
3) if anything, the spiritual and religious often lead to immorality. example: muslims committing acts of terror in the name of their religion.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Most people in general dont follow the teachings. Thats not a political issue, its a moral issue.


yeah, i agree with ulti for once. a lot of so-called christians don't know crap about the bible or the teachings of jesus (see above). but this is an aspect of christians in general, not just leftist christians. the idea that christians on the left are fake christians, while christians on the right are super dedicated bible connoisseurs is inane. just look at trump, who can't even recite a single bible verse.
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Vlado
10/15/18 5:39:47 AM
#91:


Jakyl25 posted...
How can you reconcile that with what you call the SJW movement? Isnt that all about telling people theyre wrong?

It's leftist doublethink. When it's about excusing one of their chosen of evil, there's no right or wrong. When it's about condemning one of their hated, everything they do is wrong.

For SJWs, there is no coherent morality scale applicable to everyone.

LordoftheMorons posted...
Pretty sure Jesus wouldn't be down with all of the murderous dictators you support, Vlado!

Sorry, the fake version of Christ you've been taught about is a lie. :) Jesus is the one who whipped the merchants out of the temple, and He would of course welcome everyone who is metaphorically doing the same right now.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
some leftists do follow the teachings of christ (probably not the majority, though).

For example?

Mr Lasastryke posted...
loads of people on the right aren't "real christians" either. i probably know the bible better than a ton of "christians."

Probably.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
1) that different people and cultures exist is a fact. it seems to me that you're acknowledging this as well, given that you often talk about the danger of islam taking over western culture. if there were no different cultures, this danger wouldn't exist. just because you acknowledge different cultures exist doesn't mean you're "saying there is no right or wrong." these two things have nothing to do with each other. it seems like you're referring to postmodern philosophy here, but the amount of leftists who adhere to this philosophy is hardly the majority.

Really? If they aren't the majority, then they are certainly allowing the minority among them to lead their movement and determine every important step it takes.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
2) the idea that morals can only come from the spiritual is total bullshit. i don't consider myself to be a spiritual (or religious) person in the slightest but i still have morals. i realize that murder is wrong, for instance.

Where do morals come from, then? Are animals moral? It is precisely because we are made in God's image that morality exists. Even if you reject God, you cannot undo how you are made. Besides, "moral" atheists simply replace God with "science!!!"

There is an inherent aspiration built within people to aim towards something greater than themselves, and all of us who have not destroyed ourselves or been destroyed mentally retain it. For us, it is God. For the not completely fucked leftists, it's "science." Whatever. It's just calling God by another name.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
3) if anything, the spiritual and religious often lead to immorality. example: muslims committing acts of terror in the name of their religion.

Nonsense. Terror can be committed in the name of anything. Terror is regularly committed in the name of "fighting evil," see Antifa. Religious teachings can be, and are used as simple political propaganda in the case you've cited and similar. That's no longer religion, it's politics.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/15/18 9:22:13 AM
#92:


Vlado posted...
Jesus is the one who whipped the merchants out of the temple, and He would of course welcome everyone who is metaphorically doing the same right now.


this is kind of a radical exegesis. just because jesus whipped the mechants out of the temple doesn't necessarily mean he would be 100% supportive of duterte murdering drug users (like you are).

For example?


my best friend is very leftist and also a dedicated christian. her faith is so important to her that she's stopped interacting with people for "making fun of her religion" and she regularly corresponds with a pastor for advice before making important decisions.

and on this board, i suppose metroid composite is a good example. she's also a knowledgeable/dedicated christian, and obviously she's quite leftist as well.

If they aren't the majority, then they are certainly allowing the minority among them to lead their movement and determine every important step it takes.


i think this is too vague to respond to. like, who would the people "leading the leftist movement" be? in the US it would be people like bernie and ocasio-cortez, right? i don't think i've ever heard about them agreeing with the "good and bad doesn't exist" aspect of postmodern philosophy (though i don't know ocasio-cortez as well as bernie, admittedly). on the contrary, they're constantly talking about what's "good" (socialism) and "bad" (capitalism).

Where do morals come from, then? Are animals moral? It is precisely because we are made in God's image that morality exists. Even if you reject God, you cannot undo how you are made. Besides, "moral" atheists simply replace God with "science!!!"

There is an inherent aspiration built within people to aim towards something greater than themselves, and all of us who have not destroyed ourselves or been destroyed mentally retain it. For us, it is God. For the not completely fucked leftists, it's "science." Whatever. It's just calling God by another name.


right, so here you're admitting your earlier "leftists don't have morals because they reject god" point was wrong, right? after all, we don't reject god, we just call god "science."

Nonsense. Terror can be committed in the name of anything.


yes, but sometimes terror is committed in the name of religion. if islamic terrorism isn't a sufficient example for you because "that's politics instead of religion" (which is weird to me - pretty sure you've spoken about islamic terrorist attacks before to point out how evil islam is), just look at the crusades.
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Vlado
10/16/18 5:36:33 AM
#93:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
my best friend is very leftist and also a dedicated christian. her faith is so important to her that she's stopped interacting with people for "making fun of her religion" and she regularly corresponds with a pastor for advice before making important decisions.

In what ways is she "very leftist"?

Mr Lasastryke posted...
and on this board, i suppose metroid composite is a good example. she's also a knowledgeable/dedicated christian, and obviously she's quite leftist as well.

As far as I remember, mc is not heterosexual.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i think this is too vague to respond to. like, who would the people "leading the leftist movement" be? in the US it would be people like bernie and ocasio-cortez, right? i don't think i've ever heard about them agreeing with the "good and bad doesn't exist" aspect of postmodern philosophy (though i don't know ocasio-cortez as well as bernie, admittedly). on the contrary, they're constantly talking about what's "good" (socialism) and "bad" (capitalism).

Bernie is a figurehead. He's not the one pulling the strings. Everyone who would side with black criminals against cops, for instance (a common thing among the American left), is reversing "right" and "wrong."

Mr Lasastryke posted...
right, so here you're admitting your earlier "leftists don't have morals because they reject god" point was wrong, right? after all, we don't reject god, we just call god "science."

Nope. "Science" is a false god. It's a golden calf. It's the worship of human arrogance.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
yes, but sometimes terror is committed in the name of religion. if islamic terrorism isn't a sufficient example for you because "that's politics instead of religion" (which is weird to me - pretty sure you've spoken about islamic terrorist attacks before to point out how evil islam is), just look at the crusades.

The Crusades were also political. Islam isn't "evil" in itself. It's just a misguided religion. Those who use it to achieve their political means are the evil ones.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/16/18 9:07:03 AM
#94:


Vlado posted...
In what ways is she "very leftist"?


she very much believes that the government should take care of the poor, to the extent that they're unable to take care of themselves.

As far as I remember, mc is not heterosexual.


i believe she is either homosexual or asexual, yes. so? pretty sure all the anti-gay stuff in the bible is in the old testament, not the new. yes, jesus does talk about marriage being between a man and a woman (matthew 19, mark 10) but that section is more about divorce being wrong than gay marriage being wrong.

Everyone who would side with black criminals against cops, for instance (a common thing among the American left), is reversing "right" and "wrong."


are you saying police brutality isn't a thing? ok timjab.

Nope. "Science" is a false god. It's a golden calf. It's the worship of human arrogance.


you're not explaining why i have morals if i "worship" a "false god" and morals can only come from the christian religion, though. (evidently, when you say "morals can only come from religion or spirituality" you ACTUALLY mean they come from the christian religion. after all, false gods come from religions as well.) as stated before, i recognize that murder is wrong, so evidently i do have morals.
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Vlado
10/17/18 9:40:29 AM
#95:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
she very much believes that the government should take care of the poor, to the extent that they're unable to take care of themselves.

And where does the Bible teach that we should lie around and depend on others to feed us?

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i believe she is either homosexual or asexual, yes. so? pretty sure all the anti-gay stuff in the bible is in the old testament, not the new. yes, jesus does talk about marriage being between a man and a woman (matthew 19, mark 10) but that section is more about divorce being wrong than gay marriage being wrong.

Yes, marriage is between a man and a woman, with the goal being children and the continuation of life. Let's not pretend that somebody who believes anything different is a real Christian.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
are you saying police brutality isn't a thing? ok timjab.

Where did I say that? I am merely pointing out that in the vast majority of cases, the police are in the right. We can't reverse right and wrong over the inevitable exceptions and abuse of power. And that's what the American left are doing.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
you're not explaining why i have morals if i "worship" a "false god" and morals can only come from the christian religion, though. (evidently, when you say "morals can only come from religion or spirituality" you ACTUALLY mean they come from the christian religion. after all, false gods come from religions as well.) as stated before, i recognize that murder is wrong, so evidently i do have morals.

If you refuse to call out things that are destructive for society, such as aggresively pushing homosexuality and flooding Europe with the third world, you don't really have morals. Sure, murder is destructive. But you bury your head in the sand about anything more long-term. That's not morality. That's instant gratification, it's feeding your conscience "at least something."
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Vlado
10/17/18 10:44:57 AM
#96:


Cherokee Nation slam Pocahontas over her laughable claims:

A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship, read a statement from Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr.

Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a persons ancestors were indigenous to North or South America.

Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong, Hoskin continued. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens.

https://www.rt.com/usa/441413-elizabeth-warren-cherokee-nation/
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Kenri
10/17/18 12:32:32 PM
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can't fuckin wait until being hella gay destroys whatever society vlado is on about
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Espeon
10/17/18 12:39:14 PM
#98:


Vlados sole contribution to this board is a topic series in which he pits two women against each other and has the board objectify them to determine who is hotter. Now personally, I dont give a shit. Some women are hot and I have no problem with acknowledging that. But it just seems odd for Vlado to get up on a moral high horse about liberals destroying Christian morality when that topic series literally perpetuates the decline of Christian morality by flying in the face of either the seventh or the tenth commandment.
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ColZach
10/17/18 12:41:48 PM
#99:


Vlado has also never kissed a girl, but thats kind of relevant.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/18 12:57:11 PM
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Espeon posted...
Vlados sole contribution to this board is a topic series in which he pits two women against each other and has the board objectify them to determine who is hotter. Now personally, I dont give a shit. Some women are hot and I have no problem with acknowledging that. But it just seems odd for Vlado to get up on a moral high horse about liberals destroying Christian morality when that topic series literally perpetuates the decline of Christian morality by flying in the face of either the seventh or the tenth commandment.


he also supports murderous dictators because "jesus whipped a bunch of merchants out of the temple." pretty sure he's in no position to lecture anyone about "not having morals."

and wow @ post #95. not even muffin is THIS blatant about his homophobia.
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