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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:26:37 PM #1: |
Welcome one and all, to my first solo music ranking topic! I am your host, a delusional bunny.
Things You Should Probably Know First, I am the bad type of furry. I typically restrain myself outside of roleplaying topics, but since this is my own topic, I kinda do whatever I want. If you're deeply bothered by arbitrary roleplaying tirades or tail wagging, you'll probably walk to click topic list and get out of here before it gets weird. It doesn't happen often in this topic, but it does happen a few times, and you are hereby warned. Second, songs are placed wherever I want them to be placed, with no scoring systems or attempts to be objective. While I did spend a lot of time working on the final placement, don't expect much in the way of internal consistency or logic. Third, don't expect quality write-ups. Multiple songs only get one word and those with longer write-ups tend to only be tangently related to whatever the original topic was. For example, at the Mega Man Song Ranking Topic, one write-up for a Classic Mega Man song devolved into a "why I hate Thin Lizzy and their fans frighten me" speech and I have no idea how I got onto that topic. It seemed to make sense at the time? ...not that you should expect write-ups to go that random either. There are no standards or quality control, nor any attempt to force random insanity. I just typed whatever I wanted to. *shrugs* Fourth, even if I truly dislike a song, please don't take that personally. I wanted to experience new things, so if you found something I truly hated, then I can honestly thank you for the experience. Also sometimes it takes a while for music to grown on me. While The Protomen's Act II is easily my favorite album of all time now, I actually disliked most of the songs on my first listen--it took a deep commitment to listening to the songs, reading all the notes, consulting other people's reactions, and seriously thinking about the album as a whole until I truly got it. Obviously, I did not have time to give this level of dedication to 200 different songs; if I give a bad ranking to one of your songs, you can safely assume that the problem is with me and that I'd learn to appreciate the song if I had more experience with the genre, artist, album, or whatever. Fifth, there's no topicality here and you are free to do whatever. If you want to try to hijack the topic and rank all 200 songs yourself, you go for it. Frankly, I just wanted to listen to a bunch of different songs and talk to myself, so it's pretty much impossible for anything you say or do to interfere with my enjoyment. Rankings will start tomorrow, but for now let's gather all the songs and tag all the nominators. @Anagram nominated 3 songs:
@azuarc nominated 2 songs:
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:27:24 PM #2: |
@Bane_Of_Despair nominated 15 songs:
@Dragon66116 nominated 15 songs:
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:30:03 PM #4: |
@IhatethisCPU nominated 15 songs:
@kateee nominated 13 songs:
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:30:51 PM #5: |
@mcflubbin nominated 15 songs:
@MC_XD / DireKrow nominated 3 songs:
@Mega_Mana nominated 5 songs: Sorry, Mega, I always forget how to @ people with spaces in their name.
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:32:54 PM #7: |
@NBIceman nominated 15 songs:
@Seginustemple nominated 10 songs:
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/27/18 10:33:51 PM #9: |
@Se7enthrust nominated 10 songs:
@Snake5555555555 nominated 15 songs:
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Snake5555555555 09/27/18 10:38:20 PM #11: |
Tag
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/27/18 10:39:53 PM #12: |
oh boy
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Se7enthrust 09/27/18 10:41:08 PM #13: |
Tagging so hard. Good work Raetsel!
I'd say you did very well lining up 200 nominations and having the ranking ready to go in such little time. Very much looking forward to the rollout. =) --- "Best read of the game goes to se7en. Who correctly surmised this town is full of idiots." - Corrik Se7enthrust ~ Dude_Dexter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 09/27/18 10:42:56 PM #14: |
Nice. This'll be interesting for me as well; I don't recognize very many songs outside of what I nominated myself.
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handsomeboy2012 09/27/18 11:00:44 PM #15: |
tag
predicting that most of my nominations will be near bottom ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mcflubbin 09/27/18 11:10:00 PM #16: |
Big tag
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Murphiroth 09/27/18 11:19:01 PM #17: |
Tag
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Se7enthrust 09/27/18 11:40:25 PM #18: |
I'm guessing my NGC logo soundbyte will be at the very bottom considering how little content there is compared to every other nomination.
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BlackDra90n 09/27/18 11:53:28 PM #19: |
Tag. This was faster than expected.
I'm also predicting most of mine will be on the bottom. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 11:05:48 AM #20: |
All aboard the bad opinion train! Choo choo!
==================================================== 200: Song Name: Allegro Con Fuoco Song Origin: Antonin Dvorak Song Link: Nominator: TheArkOfTurus (10/10) I don't think I like classical music. I'm not prepared to write-off the entire genre, but it's not a style that I get into. When it comes to purely instrumental music, I prefer things to be more...artificial? I doubt that's the word I'm looking for, but then, I don't know enough music terms to know what I'm looking for. I enjoy music with a lot of distortions or weird effects that couldn't be created in the past, or sounds from older game systems; the X68000, Game Boy, stuff like that. When it comes to classical music, or VGM that wants desperately to be in that style with their full orchestras or what not, I tend to just tune out. There are exceptions: The Chrono Cross soundtrack is incredibly beautiful and I occasionally play the game just to hear the music again, and I know someone nominated a piece of piano music at another ranking topic that I absolutely loved (though I can't recall the name or any details to ever find it again), but... the less modern or artificial sounding the music, the harder it is for it to hold my attention. Factor in this song's length (over 11 minutes), how it's rather subdued and almost puts me to sleep, and I just can't rank it higher than this. I'm sure it's blasphemy and one of the all-time greats, blah blah blah, but I just can't connect with it at all. [FINAL NOTES: So much competition for last place, but it was the length of this song that killed it. I'd contend the next several songs are worse, but they have the decency to end in a reasonable timeframe. Which isn't to say I don't like long songs, but I have to at least remotely enjoy the song to tolerate it refusing to end.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 11:08:12 AM #21: |
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199: Song Name: Battle Song Origin: Gokinjo Boukentai Song Link: Nominator: NFUN (9/9) I've never gotten the appeal of this track. It got a lot of support in the most recent VGMC, making it into the main bracket and obliterating whichever FF7 song it was up against, but I just don't see the appeal, no matter how often I hear it. ...of course I'm not much of a fan of Jenova either, so I probably voted for this song. Picking a brand new song that I don't care about over an overrated song I've heard a thousand times and never cared much about seems logical. If so, I regret doing so now that I've heard this song a few more times and denounce whichever voice in my head was voting that day. [FINAL NOTES: I don't get this song and I never will. ] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 11:09:23 AM #22: |
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198: Song Name: Windows Error Remix Song Origin: Fabio Mariano Song Link: Nominator: handsomeboy2012 (15/15) It heavily reminds me of the Mortal Kombat theme, only not as interesting. Also, while I don't hold it against the song itself, I hate that touching that giant pop-up on the video links you to his page. I have a tendency to just tap the video when I want to pause or unpause it, which is bad when you suddenly run into a video that will kick you off the page for trying it. It's possible this song is just a joke that I don't find funny, but either way, it's not getting a good placement from me. ....I'm not sure how well the Mortal Kombat Theme would have done. Better than this, but probably not too great--once you get past the nostalgia of the arcade game's voice clips, there's not much there. [FINAL NOTES: I know what it looks like, but I honestly don't hate all instrumental songs. There are definitely several that I love. Just...not these three.] ==================================================== Not really sure how rapidly to post these, but this seems like a decent place to pause for a bit until this afternoon. --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheArkOfTurus 09/28/18 11:28:46 AM #24: |
Of all the songs I nominated, that'd be the last one I'd expect to get last place.
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handsomeboy2012 09/28/18 11:47:14 AM #25: |
Raetsel_Lapin posted...
It's possible this song is just a joke I wouldn't say it was nominated as a joke, though at that moment I couldn't think of anything and went for a meme-y one that is guaranteed to place low. (at least in my opinion) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kateee 09/28/18 11:51:36 AM #26: |
tag
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NFUN 09/28/18 12:02:53 PM #27: |
wow these sure are rankings
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 2:04:51 PM #28: |
Moving right along with some more controversial placements...
==================================================== 197: Song Name: Red Sam Song Origin: Flyleaf Song Link: Nominator: Dragon66116 (15/15) Samael Tate posted three months ago: "I really will wait for you until the day I die I know who you are and they will take an eternity to figure it out that it was in jesus name We did have kids already I won't let you go for your sister's sake! I speak the curses and THEY SCREAM IT! my words are anime karma for Trump to see that PEACE IS REAL! But the word is no! not with a bullet aimed at god! I will say no for you sister and embrace all this love! WAS NOT FOR GOD SAVING OUR LIVES! Satan is Samael and Satan is reborn now into a man again! HELL IS PARADISE IS NOT HELL IS 5th SPHERE OF HEAVEN! and I worship EIN SOF!!!" Well, nothing I can say about this song could ever top that reply. We could discuss suicide and religion, but I'd rather not. I'll admit that it's probably going to be impossible to avoid those topics considering some of the upcoming songs, but I'll worry about how to dodge them when the time comes. For now, let's just look at that paragraph. "HELL IS PARADISE IS NOT HELL", is almost zen-like in its beauty. "I speak the curses and THEY SCREAM IT!" may just be the most metal song lyric of all time. And then there's a lot of other...interesting lines. And while it's definitely still religious, it's not as in your face about it as Red Sam, nor is there anything in it about a girl who was so abused that she set herself on fire in an attempt to end the pain. So...ya know, I'm definitely going to say that I prefer that paragraph over the actual lyrics to this song. Also, they named the song after band members names? They couldn't even be bothered to name the bloody song, they just went all NOOB SAIBOT with it? Even if this song were my type of thing, I'd probably dock it a thousand points just for the name. ...not that there are points, but you know what I mean. ........okay, so even I don't know what I mean. Quiet you. [FINAL NOTES: This song has fluctuated anywhere from 175th to 200th place. Occasionally I give it a big boost because I should listen to more music that I don't like, while other times it drops because I very strongly dislike it.] [FINAL-ER NOTES: Ehh... if I had to rerank this, I'd probably move it up a handful of spots due to its ability to make me feel very strongly about things, but the placement is what it is.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 2:06:05 PM #29: |
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196: Song Name: Wish I Knew You Song Origin: The Revivalists Song Link: Nominator: Snake5555555555 (15/15) One of several songs that doesn't inspire any commentary from me. It just sorta exists. [FINAL NOTES: I've tried repeatedly to find something to say about this song and I still have absolutely nothing. I had no thoughts the first five times I heard it and I have no thoughts now that I'm listening to it again for these final notes, in a desperate attempt to find something to say. ...which is interesting in its own way, I suppose.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 2:09:18 PM #30: |
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195: Song name - Soul of Cinder Song origin - Dark Souls III OST Song link Nominator: Murphiroth (15/15) I've never played any of the Dark Souls series and didn't play much of Demon's Souls, so I think I lack enough reference to "get" this song. Skimming the comments, I see a lot about what the music symbolizes and what not, but I have no idea who any of the characters being discussed are. Without any knowledge of the symbolism, the music is....nice. I've become rather numb to every game with even mild RPG elements trying to sound EPIC, to a point that this song just fades into the background until it shifts to the far more subdued piano section... but without knowing, or caring, what the piano symbolizes it's still just sorta there. [FINAL NOTES: Can't think of anything I want to add here.] ==================================================== Now see, that's one that I figure I'm going to get flak for. I'm sure it's probably super amazing with context, but here...eh. --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/28/18 2:15:04 PM #31: |
I like Soul of Cinder but there are other songs in that game I like more. Also yea if you haven't really played the games then that's fair.
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/28/18 2:19:24 PM #32: |
And I liked Fyleaf back in the day, Lacey the lead singer has a solo album released uhhhh like 2 years ago that is pretty neat
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Se7enthrust 09/28/18 3:12:41 PM #33: |
Your pacing is fine Raetsel. Loving the write-ups so far too. Kinda shocked though that anything was worse than the Gamecube Logo screen for you though.
(Not that I'm complaining since the higher it goes the better my other nominations might do I think lol) --- "Best read of the game goes to se7en. Who correctly surmised this town is full of idiots." - Corrik Se7enthrust ~ Dude_Dexter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 09/28/18 3:17:46 PM #34: |
Tag
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 6:47:52 PM #35: |
Se7enthrust posted...
(Not that I'm complaining since the higher it goes the better my other nominations might do I think lol) FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT. ==================================================== 194: Song: Word Crimes Origin: Weird Al Yankovic Link: Nominator: Se7enthrust (10/10) Short answer: I've never heard Blurred Lines, so the song is a total non-starter. Slightly longer answer: Having now heard Blurred Lines, I hate that song and I hate this song for tricking me into listening to it. [FINAL NOTES: It moved up one rank because I was amused by the line about not using numbers for letters unless you're 7. I do appreciate you managing to find a Weird Al song that inexplicably works as a meta joke on your name, but that joke is just enough to barely put it above "Soul of Cinder"--not enough to get a high placement.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 6:52:23 PM #36: |
And now to shatter any pretense of sanity, in which I discard a song for reasons not even relating to the song itself and have to take multiple posts to do so.
==================================================== 193: Song Name: Everything's Just Wonderful Song Origin: Lily Allen Song Link: [redacted] Nominator: Dragon66116 (14/15) I'm not entirely sure where I'm going to rank this song. If I'm being honest, I rather like the song itself; if I'm being completely honest, I don't like Lily Allen and really want to put the song dead last because it's one of hers. On the one hand, I'm supposed to be ranking songs, not the artists themselves. And if I spent enough time researching other artists, I could probably find equally valid reasons to hate them all. It's not the song's fault that it's easier to find negative news stories about Lily Allen. On the other, she assaulted multiple photographers and wants to destroy the internet, and I warned you all that I wasn't even going to pretend to be objective. If I want to put this song into last place, that's my prerogative. I could even disqualify it and add one of the other songs mentioned in the nominations topic to replace it; one of Kateee's nominations that she sacrificed so azuarc could participate? 10-20-40 would probably get a decent score, though I've only listened to it once since it's not on the official list. Then there's the Civ 6 song and whatever NFUN briefly nominated before replacing it with that 9/11 song, I actually haven't listened to his removed song at all yet. Can I give it two rankings? Have it somehow exist in last place and not-last-place simultaneously? Suppose not, that would mess up every other song's placement and splitting topics into multiple timelines never works out. Well...let's divide this ranking in two. If you want me to talk about the song itself, click the first quote block ; if you want me to continue attacking her personally (why would you want that?), click the second block. Alternatively, you may click Topic List and escape before this topic gets any weirder. Actually talk about the song... This song actually does quite a few things that I like. I like artificial sounding music*, so I like the elevator music style portions. There's a self-deprecating humor running through the song, which is always worth a smirk or light chuckle. ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 6:53:22 PM #37: |
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Rant about her personally...
[FINAL NOTES: Yeah, this song is ending up near the bottom and I refuse to post any links to her music. If she wants absolutely no one to ever share her music, I'm all too happy to oblige on that point. #MaliciousCompliance #NotHowHashtagsWork #notallfoxes] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/28/18 7:32:02 PM #38: |
tbf I think most of what you're saying about her happened nearly 10 years ago now, alot can change and I haven't heard anything on those fronts since that time period
--- Lord have mercy on my soul, I've had a good run but I can't run anymore. Just put me down BKSheikah got me good in Guru ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Se7enthrust 09/28/18 7:32:30 PM #39: |
You couldn't at least have dropped that before Word Crimes? (I like that clickable/quote box thing you did there btw)
And dang. I was hoping you weren't going to listen to Blurred Lines. I hate that song every bit as much as you do. If you make believe that Weird Al's version is the only one that exists, it is so much better. (I also heard Word Crimes long before I heard Blurred Lines) --- "Best read of the game goes to se7en. Who correctly surmised this town is full of idiots." - Corrik Se7enthrust ~ Dude_Dexter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zelos 09/28/18 7:35:04 PM #40: |
What
Word crimes us great --- kateee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 09/28/18 7:37:51 PM #41: |
yeah but the song it's based off of sucks ass
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Seginustemple 09/28/18 7:43:09 PM #42: |
Song Name: Battle
Song Origin: Gokinjo Boukentai wow this is a bop I'm surprised and delighted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snake5555555555 09/28/18 7:44:07 PM #43: |
Lily Allen also had a scary stalker situation that went on for several years I think.
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NFUN 09/28/18 7:53:43 PM #44: |
Seginustemple posted...
Song Name: Battle Welcome to the cult of the King --- Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 09/28/18 11:17:49 PM #45: |
Shocked that one is my first to drop with Nekrogoblikon in the mix but I totally get not feeling it out of context with the series.
In context that piano is a ridiculous "HOLY SHIT" moment when you first play the game. --- I main ledges. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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handsomeboy2012 09/28/18 11:23:58 PM #46: |
These writeups are interesting to say the least, keep it up
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Se7enthrust 09/28/18 11:24:00 PM #47: |
NFUN posted...
yeah but the song it's based off of sucks ass That's why I said you gotta make pretend that it doesn't exist. --- "Best read of the game goes to se7en. Who correctly surmised this town is full of idiots." - Corrik Se7enthrust ~ Dude_Dexter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 11:38:22 PM #48: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
tbf I think most of what you're saying about her happened nearly 10 years ago now, alot can change and I haven't heard anything on those fronts since that time period Probably true! But since I hadn't heard about her before this contest and didn't look anything up about her until the third trip through the list, it's all incredibly recent to me and you were warned not to expect logic. </.< Think I'm going to close out the bottom 10 before getting ready for bed, since I'll be on a 12 hour break after this. ==================================================== 192: Song Name: Coming Down Song Origin: The Weeknd Song Link: Nominator: Bane_Of_Despair (15/15) If a song repeats the exact same line more than 20 times, I'm probably not going to enjoy it. [FINAL NOTES: This song is partially redeemed by the Fate/Stay bit. Obscure references, slightly distorted voices, odd whispering? I really like that part of the track, just not enough.] [FINAL-ER NOTES: Looking back now, I think I may have undervalued this a bit. One great part should be enough to keep you out of the bottom 10... think I'd probably put this around 189 were I to rearrange the list, but 'tis a bit late to do so now.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/28/18 11:40:46 PM #49: |
oof
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Raetsel_Lapin 09/28/18 11:42:51 PM #50: |
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191: Song Name: Little Red Wagon Song Origin: Miranda Lambert Song Link: Nominator: Snake5555555555 (14/15) I hadn't noticed that I can't set YouTube videos to automatically repeat on an iPad... I could have sworn that used to be possible, as I distinctly remember doing so back at the Mega Man Ranking Topic, but perhaps I'm remembering things wrong. That or YouTube continues to get worse on a constant basis. Or both. Probably both. And of course the third party sites that would do it automatically are blocked for copyright purposes.... makes it a bit difficult to have these songs play on an endless loop while I'm typing up thoughts when YouTube expressly forbids it. I could always go over to Spotify, for those songs that have Spotify links, but there are number of songs that wouldn't and I'd rather not have some of these tracks attached to that account anyway. so I guess I'll just live with having to click the replay button each time. ((Fun fact, I've already had to restart this video multiple times just from that rant which isn't even related to the song. This is going to be a fun topic. *mutters vague curses under her breath*)) Aaaanywho, I'm not too crazy about modern country music. I'm sure there are exceptions--Brad Paisley's work on the Cars 2 soundtrack wasn't bad, though it's been long enough since I heard those songs that I can't offer any specific thoughts--and classic country (especially classic pop-country, like that brief period in Dolly Parton's career where she wanted to be a pop star) works for me, but modern just...doesn't, from what I've experienced. In this song's defense, it's my own fault because I thought the central metaphor was going in a different direction. I used to be really naive when it came to sexual references in songs, where they would all go over my head... so now I kinda just assume everything to be one. I knew this was something of a break-up song about Blake Shelton and she was wearing bright red in the video, so I thought...the wagon was...uhh, you know. Then she dropped the "front seat's broken and the axel's dragin'" line and I got really, really squicked out. Which isn't exactly the song's fault, but certainly made everything incredibly awkward. And trying to look up the actual meaning didn't help matters ; this isn't even her song originally and she doesn't seem to know what it means either, declaring that the wagon is a "state of mind" or whatever. Yeah, Blake Shelton, you can't ride in her brain because it's broken. Ya burnt! .... Either way, this song does nothing to overcome my natural bias against it. Video was also kinda "whatever". There was a dog in it, which was kinda nice? [FINAL NOTES: There's a fine line between love and hate. If I listen to this song any more times, I'll probably start liking it ironically. It's already starting to happen; this started in dead last and has moved up a few spaces by being hilariously terrible. And I got used to YouTube's restrictions. Once you remember to turn off autoplay and know in each song when you'll have to hit the replay button, it's not so bad; it is intentionally annoying and terrible design, but not as infuriating as expected when I started this.] [FINAL-ER NOTES: Yeah, you can tell this was the first write-up written, back when I was positive this was getting last place.] ==================================================== --- "That's life. All the trues are false and all the falses are true."-Charlie Brown ... Copied to Clipboard!
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