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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 2:29:59 PM
#351:


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Song Name: Motorcycle Drive By
Song Origin: Third Eye Blind, "Third Eye Blind"
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8wVKPUN_g" data-time="

Nominator: Mega Mana (3/5)


Fairly great song. It's an interesting transition from soft & beautiful, to loud with occasional screaming, and then back to being quiet. Everything about this song is good to great... but I don't think I'm really looking for a breakup song at the moment, which holds it back somewhat.

[FINAL NOTES: I should probably just go ahead and listen to that entire album at some point, like you wanted me to.

[[ZA'LIST

1.Alice Cooper

2.OSTs from games published by Ocean Software.

3.Something by The Mars Volta.

4.Some more Kindo music.

5.Vektroid.

6.One or two more songs by Nightwish

7.The album "New Man Theme" came from.

8.DM DOKURO.

9.Something else described as "Avant-Garde Metal".

10.Third Eye Blind (Album)]]



[FINAL-ER NOTES: This is the exact moment that cutting any song is painful. I don't want to eliminate this yet... but I also don't want to eliminate anything else. Can I just declare a tie for all songs Ranked from #18 to #37?

...suppose not.]

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PrestonStarry2
10/14/18 2:34:06 PM
#352:


This topic is unreadable.

What's with the annoying quotes and ===== spaces in between the songs with what you are typing out?
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Mega Mana
10/14/18 4:11:02 PM
#353:


Ooh! Forgot I almost nominated the entire thing!

Kind of glad I didn't since "Semi-Charmed Life" has a lot of drug references, and "Jumper" is about suicide, so...

...fits right in with all the other noms, huh?

EDIT: Also, Smooth McGroove just uploaded a video an hour ago saying he's coming back soon and why he's been gone.
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 4:49:02 PM
#354:


Mega Mana posted...
Ooh! Forgot I almost nominated the entire thing!

Kind of glad I didn't since "Semi-Charmed Life" has a lot of drug references, and "Jumper" is about suicide, so...

...fits right in with all the other noms, huh?


I still plan on listening to it anyway. There are always exceptions to things that I typically dislike; there's at least one more song dealing with suicide that hasn't dropped yet, Big Empty got a high placement and praise for having some of the best lyrics in the entire contest, etc, etc. It's not the most promising subject matter, but it's not a deal-breaker.





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Song Name: Nobody
Song Origin: Mitski
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qooWnw5rEcI" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (6/15)

*sigh*

Amazing video, tremendous song, the vocal distortions at the end of the song are what I've been waiting this entire topic to hear..

...and then she goes and uploads a video explaining every single line in the song.

STOP DOING THAT

For the second time this list, a song has been ruined by an artist being too honest about what everything means. There's no mystery left, nothing to discuss or think about. It's all spelled out, in the most boring way possible. And it hurts, because this was one of my favorite songs... but now, it just isn't the same. It's not ruined or anything, but it's definitely dropped a long way from where it could have been.

[FINAL NOTES: If she didn't explain everything, this would probably have come in around...17th place? The top 16 is really hard to break into, but this song would have definitely came as close as possible--might have even made it into that tremendous group, honestly, but we'll never know.

That it makes it so incredibly high on the list even after having its score dragged down so far is a testament to how great the song truly is.]

[FINAL-ER NOTES: Just append the usual "cutting this song so early is physically painful" to all write-ups from now until we hit the top 16. It's not like the next cuts are any less painful than this one was...]

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 4:51:08 PM
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Song Name: I Love You, Honeybear
Song Origin: Father John Misty
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoORvRpg8GE" data-time="

Nominator: kateee (2/13)


I think I really like this artist, in every possible way. Everything I learn about him makes me like him more and his performance of Bored in the USA on Letterman may be the best live music performance I've ever seen; of course I don't watch live music, so I have almost nothing to compare it to, but it feels hard to top. The fake piano, the canned laughter, the awkward applause of an audience that has no idea how they're supposed to react until Letterman practically forces them to cheer more. Oh, it was perfect.

This song's opening is more explicit than I usually tolerate, but he can get away with it; either because he's just that great or because I'm too biased in his favor to judge him objectively any longer, it doesn't matter. To quote a Pitchfork review that can put things into words that i cannot "..passionate and disillusioned, tender and angry, so cynical it's repulsive and so openhearted it hurts."

I'm not sure I'll seek out the rest of the album. It might be nice to hear at some point, but then he's at a perfect 2-for-2 in songs that I like. I almost hate to risk sullying his perfect record by pushing any further. Considering how poorly things go when I try to look up information on artists, we should just quit while we're ahead.

[FINAL NOTES: Yeah, I'm not going to add him to za list, as I'm happier leaving my knowledge of the artist where it is now.


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NFUN
10/14/18 6:29:42 PM
#356:


maybe i shouldve nommed this instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOj_6cMGEY" data-time="

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 7:19:44 PM
#357:


NFUN posted...
nom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpl4rol6nZ0" data-time="


Not bad, but I'm not crazy for it. Probably lands near BFG Division in the rankings.



NFUN posted...
maybe i shouldve nommed this instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOj_6cMGEY" data-time="




This, on the other hand, is amazing. I don't know that it would have gotten a much better placement--it probably moves ahead of Tap Dancer's Dilemma, winding up in the current clump of songs that I don't want to eliminate but have to because we're never going to hit the Top 16 if I don't; a slight improvement, but nothing dramatic.

It does prove that I really need to listen to more DOKURO music.
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 7:22:57 PM
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Song Name: Blindfolds Aside
Song Origin: Protest the Hero
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZqm1SGASg" data-time="

Nominator: TheArkOfTurus (5/10)


I wouldn't have expected to love a metal song about an execution, but here we are. Tried another random song off the album and didn't like it as much (though it wasn't bad)... don't know if I'd ever want to try a third song by them, but I do like this one.

[FINAL NOTES: Like Father John Misty, I'm leaving my experience with the band on a high note instead of seeking anything else out. For now, anyway.]

[FINAL-ER NOTES: Ehh... if ZA'LIST weren't overflowing with songs right now, I'd reconsider that position. I feel like I'd perk up and get excited if another song by them was nominated (especially a song from a different album), but I don't know that I'm motivated enough to seek any out on my own.]

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Song Name: Cato as a Pun
Song Origin: of Montreal
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlcTTEvG0g" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (5/15)


Another song that's presumably way too deep and symbolic for me to get in a casual listening topic. It seems incredibly straightforward about a deteriorating friendship, but then everyone starts talking about Roman statesmen, and the Julius Caesar play, & the recurring themes of the album itself and arguments on if there's even more than one person in the song itself since...something something someone in the band is taking on a new persona and obviously they're just arguing with themselves.

On the plus side, I don't care if I get it ; I love the instruments and the static-y buzz-y sorta noise at the start of the track and, while the main singer isn't what I expected, the voice is starting to grow on me.

[FINAL NOTES: ...Yeah, sure, let's add that to ZA'LIST, maybe I'll get around to listening to it someday.

[[ZA'LIST

1.Alice Cooper

2.OSTs from games published by Ocean Software.

3.Something by The Mars Volta.

4.Some more Kindo music.

5.Vektroid.

6.One or two more songs by Nightwish

7.The album "New Man Theme" came from.

8.DM DOKURO.

9.Something else described as "Avant-Garde Metal".

10.Third Eye Blind (Album)

11.The album Cato as a Pun came from.]]

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/14/18 10:51:33 PM
#359:


And the last two of the night:

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Song Name: Falling Into Me
Song Origin: Lets Eat Grandma
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGVv7SQ_jus" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (4/15)


It comes very close to perfection, but I don't really care for the lyrics. The music itself is amazing, the way it keeps shifting in style throughout the song, it's simply wonderful and amazing... and I just don't care about the lyrics or the story they tell, which keeps it from greatness.

I should listen to more of this band; if this song is any indication, I have a feeling I'll find the greatest song of all time on one of their albums. But this isn't quite it.

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1.Alice Cooper

2.OSTs from games published by Ocean Software.

3.Something by The Mars Volta.

4.Some more Kindo music.

5.Vektroid.

6.One or two more songs by Nightwish

7.The album "New Man Theme" came from.

8.DM DOKURO.

9.Something else described as "Avant-Garde Metal".

10.Third Eye Blind (Album)

11.The album Cato as a Pun came from.

12.One or two songs by Let's Eat Grandma]]

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Song Name: Mothball
Song Origin: Tawny Ant
Song Link: https://tawnyant.bandcamp.com/track/mothball
Nominator: MycroProcessor (4/10)


With a different singer this would probably make the top 5 ; as is, I'm conflicted. I fully and completely love everything about the music itself, but that voice...especially when he warbles "cat-er-PILLLLarrr", I have a hard time not laughing at the song.

...then again I do like laughing at songs, so maybe that doesn't hurt the song as much as I thought it would.



[FINAL-ER NOTES: Well, I did say I wanted more distortion on the voices...]

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 10:53:27 AM
#360:


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Song Name: Phoenix I. Rising II. Falling (yea this one is my long one, sorry)
Song Origin: Night Verses
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfaJrdAM8_A" data-time="

Nominator: Bane_Of_Despair (2/15)


I like everything about this song and I think this is exactly what I had in mind when I wanted new songs. It's metal, but easy to understand without any of that growl yelling stuff (well, there's some growling in the background, but the lead singer is easy to understand) ; long, but without ever overstaying its welcome like some other songs ; lyics that sound cool and are vague enough that you can pretty much beleive whatever you want with them ; and generally just above-average in every possible respect.

Actually, is this metal? It seems slightly too tame for that....

*looks*

"Post Hardcore"

....If one more band on this list is described as post hardcore, I'm going to incinerate this wretched planet and dance among the embers as your species lets out their final, primitive screams.



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[FINAL-ER NOTES: Again, such ramblings are a joke that had no impact on rankings and you may as well consider this entire block of songs in a 21-way tie for 17th place.]

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Mr Lasastryke
10/15/18 10:57:48 AM
#361:


Raetsel_Lapin posted...
....If one more band on this list is described as post hardcore, I'm going to incinerate this wretched planet and dance among the embers as your species lets out their final, primitive screams.


well, i hope you're not going to discuss any more songs bane nominated, then!
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 11:03:09 AM
#362:


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Song Name: Sorrow
Song Origin: Lynch
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJPvhwyFgcY" data-time="

Nominator: BlackDra90n (1/5)


I was planning on saying that I absolutely loved his voice, but YouTube suggested I listen to another of his songs (JOKER)... that was a mistake. He sacrifices everything great about his voice in exchange for RARR THIS IS METAL I AM GROWL YELLING RARR, while singing about sex slavery, with an underaged girl in the video.

Now I'm questioning if I can drop this down fifty or so rankings just because I resent that appearing in my video suggestions.

....



Ugh, but his voice in the song you actually nominated is so beautiful & perfect, I just can't hate it. He joins The Interupters in the "I'll never listen to more songs by this artist" category, but this specific song is good.



HEROIC BRUTALITY!

In Memoriam

Lowest Ranked Song: Ningen wo Kaburu (178th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Sorrow (29th Place)





In spite of only having five nominations and all of them being Metal, there was a pretty decent amount of variety. Thank you.



[FINAL-ER NOTES: Your best and worst songs go in exact opposite directions, with Sorrow being hauntingly beautiful and one of the best songs in the entire contest, while NwK was so extreme I very actively wanted to shut it off after about 30 seconds.

The Void had great lyrics, Barbie Girl was always funny, and... well I don't remember The Circle, at the moment. And if you needed clarification, I don't think the other song actively hurt this one's placement; like I've said, we're at an everything is too good point in the list. It feels too low, but so did a lot of songs before it and a lot after it. The next two cuts in particular are especially painful for me.]

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Tokoyami
10/15/18 11:05:01 AM
#363:


Night Verses is many more genres before post-hardcore comes up, I'm surprised that's what you got from them
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 2:31:39 PM
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Song Name: Lateralus
Song Origin: Tool
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlC7oG_2W4" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (2/9)

Now see, I was expecting Post Hardcore this time, but instead it's "Post Metal". </.<

The intro to this song might be the greatest thing I ever heard. I don't usually connect with music, but this just resonated with my soul in an almost painful way... I wasn't sure I could survive over nine minutes of a song hitting me this hard...

...and then it became incredibly loud, utterly shattering the atmosphere. Then the singer came in and further demolished the song.

Alright, it's never that bad but the difference between "this is the most powerful thing I've ever heard, bordering on a spiritual awakening and the emotions are too powerful to handle" to "pretty good song" is so unbelievably massive that most of the song feels like garbage in comparison to the intro.

Yeah, yeah, it's a great song and deep symbolism and math and whatever. Just not quite what I'd expected or wanted.


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[FINAL-ER NOTES: I have no idea how this song wound up with a "th" next to its number, since nothing else on the list does.]

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 2:32:49 PM
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Song Name: Golden Chords
Song Origin: Deakin
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsUxq9XQzlI" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (3/15)


I can't place the memory, but something about this song is reminding me heavily of The Beatles' later work. I feel like I should be able to be more specific about which Beatle or song this is reminiscent of, but it's not coming. While I have a reasonable familiarity with the band because of how omnipresent they were on the oldies station--as a band and with each of their solo careers--I've never actually listened to a Beatles album or paid much attention to who sang what or when. So the feeling is just too vague, it's like 'this is like that song, by the guy, when the band was going through that one phase. You know, with the stuff!' where I simultaneously know exactly what I mean and have no clue.

Trying to force the memories is giving me a headache, so I guess I'll move on now. One commentor compares Deakin to George Harrison, so sure, let's go with that.

Either way this is brilliant and touching and blah blah blah. I may not be the biggest fan of The Beatles, but even from me, it's very high praise to compare anyone to a band that influential and popular.

[FINAL NOTES: I still haven't figured out what song this is making me think of, but then I haven't bothered listening to any Beatles music to try and track it down.]

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BlackDra90n
10/15/18 2:36:46 PM
#366:


29th! Not bad.

I didn't expect anything to make it into the top half tbh. The order was also pretty different than what I expected too since I thought it would be something like..

Sorrow
The Circle
Ningen wo Kabaru
Barbie Girl
The Void

And yea I definitely tried to make it as varied as possible. I would also suggest to not give up on Lynch or Dir en Grey! Both bands have a lot of great songs that are less extreme which I can recommend as well if you'd rather not go through a bunch of more uh, crazy stuff.
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 3:04:11 PM
#367:


BlackDra90n posted...
I would also suggest to not give up on Lynch or Dir en Grey! Both bands have a lot of great songs that are less extreme which I can recommend as well if you'd rather not go through a bunch of more uh, crazy stuff.


I don't know, I really hated JOKER... but I suppose Sorrow was great enough that giving him a second chance wouldn't hurt. If you want to name one or two songs by Lynch and Dir en Grey, I'll listen to them when I get a chance.
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IhatethisCPU
10/15/18 4:02:04 PM
#368:


So I *just* noticed you were curious about Nightwish...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3yqMr3ffY" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOu8PLiTC3k" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoa1lQmq6lI" data-time="


...and somethin' a *bit* shorter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGyduQBh7M" data-time="


And wholly unrelated Scatman John
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h1X5Mir85M" data-time="

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 5:49:11 PM
#369:


I will listen to those later, probably tomorrow, and get back to you then.

For now...


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Song Name: Violet Hill
Song Origin: Coldplay
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srg63poeoqQ" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (4/15)


Alright, I apologize for my earlier remarks on Viva la Vida. I guess I did want to hear one more Coldplay song.

[FINAL NOTES: But just this one, as I still have no interest in listening to a third.

Also, this officially gets us into the top 25 songs! Yay!!]

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25:

Song Name: Sparkle
Song Origin: RADWIMPS
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Ze62AL9r0" data-time="

Nominator: handsomeboy2012 (1/15)


Showing pretty much the entire film in the music video was an interesting choice. It's interesting how close I was to understanding it without any knowledge of the anime--the only thing that tripped me up was I initially thought it was about parallel universes, which led me to a few misconceptions.

The song's good, but it gets a tremendous boost due to the video & it's the only song on this list to be significantly impacted by coming with a video. It pulled me in completely and I just couldn't look away from it... and while that's not entirely fair to all the songs ranked below it, I did say that my opinion could be easily swayed due to any outside factors, so you were all warned in advance.


SOUL CRUSH!

In Memoriam

Lowest Ranked Song: Windows Error Remix (198th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Sparkle (25th Place)


o.O?

Well those are certainly two different songs alright.

Your nominations were consistently some of the most intriguing. I was never sure what I was going to get with each link, but it was always interesting--from surprisingly educational, to spellbindingly bizarre, to an anime film that managed to be emotionally touching even without being able to hear the dialogue.

Really, it covered just about everything I could have wanted a nomination list to cover.

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NFUN
10/15/18 5:54:50 PM
#370:


wait i just checked what my last song was

wtj
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 7:29:31 PM
#371:


IhatethisCPU posted...
So I *just* noticed you were curious about Nightwish...


Had a bit of extra time to listen to the first two. The first wasn't bad, but I can't recall anything about it; the second was so intense (in a good way) that it kinda... obliterated any memory of whatever happened before that experience and I need a break now.

By pure coincidence that's the exact same reaction I had to the song in 24th place.

...that's kinda freaky, honestly, but now I have to post said song. Probably not a surprise, as I think there's only one song left that I could even plausibly compare to The Poet and The Pendulum...





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24:

Song Name: Graves
Song Origin: Caligula's Horse
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PSjuLMffV0" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (3/15)


It is quite good and I don't fault it for its length, but by the time I get through it, I don't really want to talk about it. I just want to rest and take a break from everything to cool off for a bit. 15 and a half straight minutes of prog metal telling a story divided into multiple chapters that I don't 100% understand is... a bit draining, to be honest. It's good and an experience I am very glad I got to have, but draining none the less.

[FINAL-ER NOTES: The Poet and The Pendulum would have basically the exact same writeup and likely wind up in this exact place, so, that's kinda neat.]

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/15/18 7:35:52 PM
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Song Name: Astronomy
Song Origin: Blue yster Cult
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xXEtO3bEe0" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (2/15)



Ooh boy, this one is a doozy. The Moon/Awake felt like it would be impossible to understand, but Astronomy is on a whole other level. Like comparing a preschool book to something written by a member of Oulipo. ((One of my favorite books is "If on a winter's night a traveler", which is the only reason I'm aware of that group.))

There's so much to unpack here: From what I can recall of my research this song is part of a concept album. The concept album was difficult to understand to begin with, but the recording label changed the orders of the song, making it even harder. And it was meant to be part of a trilogy, but the other parts were never released and with Sandy Pearlman's death, we'll never know the full story. And also there's a demo tape out there with a few unreleased songs that are canonically part of the story.

Also aliens.

Well, I'm sold. One of these days, I absolutely have to try listening to all this stuff.

...also, for what it's worth, I really don't care for the Metallica version. It's just louder, stripping out all soul from the song, and it feels entirely pointless if you don't cover the rest of the album. It's the equivalent of taking one chapter from a book, editing it to be in CAPS LOCK, releasing it by itself and pretending you're an author. Blech. I would have posted that over in Se7en's topic, but I couldn't without giving away this song getting a high placement on my ranking, so I had to wait until over here to comment on it.

[FINAL NOTES: And once again, while it is a coincidence, as soon as one person falls another one takes their place. Though in this case someone had to lose two songs back-to-back to take said place..



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[[ZA'LIST

1.Alice Cooper

2.OSTs from games published by Ocean Software.

3.Something by The Mars Volta.

4.Some more Kindo music.

5.Vektroid.

6.One or two more songs by Nightwish

7.The album "New Man Theme" came from.

8.DM DOKURO.

9.Something else described as "Avant-Garde Metal".

10.Third Eye Blind (Album)

11.The album Cato as a Pun came from.

12.One or two songs by Let's Eat Grandma

13.The album Astronomy came from and whatever other songs I'm supposed to listen to along with it.]]



[FINAL-ER NOTES: Song is slightly too low. Think I want it to be at 19th place, not that it's enough difference to matter.]

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TheArkOfTurus
10/15/18 7:38:26 PM
#373:


Caligula's Horse is probably my favorite band of the last few years. Almost certainly would have nominated something from them if I didn't see NBIceman do it first (probably Marigold or Dark Hair Down, but Graves is fantastic too.)
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NBIceman
10/15/18 7:56:29 PM
#374:


Violet Hill

I'm about as far from being a Coldplay fan as you can get, but that song has always struck a chord with me for whatever reason. Glad to see it finish as high as it did.

Graves

I came very close to nominating Poet and the Pendulum, which is probably a top 3 song all-time for me, so that's actually pretty cool! Nightwish is a fun band to explore because they've had three different lead vocalists that really all bring different feels to the band.

If you're curious about the story of Graves, I'd be remiss not to point you to this pretty short video where the two leaders of Caligula's Horse give a short summary of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkWiP53fzI" data-time="


It's one of those songs where I hear something new every time I listen to it that makes me love it a little bit more, especially knowing the concept behind it and behind the rest of the In Contact album as a whole.

Astronomy

I'm almost definitely the biggest BC fan on B8 and probably one of the bigger concept album obsessives, and even I can't figure out what the hell's going on in that whole story, mostly because depending on who you ask, it's not even clear which songs are part of the story and which aren't. Astronomy's gorgeous all on its own, though, to the point where I'm often inclined to mentally divorce it from that whole mess and just appreciate it as a kind of magnificent ode to the stars.

Also, while I like Metallica's version, I agree that it doesn't compare to the original... Or even the later version from the Imaginos album, for that matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7h4VEd_Wk" data-time="

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10/15/18 10:19:29 PM
#375:


Raetsel_Lapin posted...
I don't know, I really hated JOKER... but I suppose Sorrow was great enough that giving him a second chance wouldn't hurt. If you want to name one or two songs by Lynch and Dir en Grey, I'll listen to them when I get a chance.


Ok here goes! And yes I know the thumbnails for the DeG ones are questionable, but they're ok.

Dir en Grey
Taiyou no Kimi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byy6oTkCBWI" data-time="


Dir en Grey
Ranunculus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeN6LqawRB4" data-time="


Lynch
Ballad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDYHNP3xh6Q" data-time="


Lynch
Sinners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZnOCQMBuWc" data-time="

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10/15/18 10:36:26 PM
#376:


I'll get around to all links posted (the other Nightwish songs, the unrelated Scatman song, the Caligula's Horse songs mentioned without links, the story of Grave, the other version of Astronomy, and those four songs right above), though not tonight ; it's late, I'll start working through links again tomorrow and post responses as I go along.

NBIceman posted...
I'm almost definitely the biggest BC fan on B8 and probably one of the bigger concept album obsessives, and even I can't figure out what the hell's going on in that whole story, mostly because depending on who you ask, it's not even clear which songs are part of the story and which aren't.


Well considering how often I've complained about artists revealing too much about their songs, it'd be rather refreshing to go with something with the exact opposite problem. There is something mysterious about an unfinished story that I have no hopes of truly understanding that makes it completely irresistible...





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Song Name: Like a Prayer
Song Origin: Madonna
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc2BXCEeJMg" data-time="

Nominator: IhatethisCPU (4/15)

It's interesting that I haven't heard this song as often you would expect. It feels like the radio tends to stick with Open Your Heart & Borderline these days, to a point that I still get a little excited whenever any other song of hers plays.

It's also possible that I'm suffering from confirmation bias--I'm tired of hearing those two songs, so I always notice them. Other songs that I like would just register as "hey, something I like is playing!" and not register in the same way. Fortunately for this song's ranking, I can neither confirm that, nor do I care. It feels like I don't hear this song as often as I'd like to, so it manages to take a high score.

Still, I do honestly know this song well enough that I didn't need to try to look up lyrics or anything. And it's not as exciting as something truly new. So... there's still a limit on how far I'm willing to take it, cutting it just before it hits the top 10% of nominations.

[FINAL NOTES: I think Take A Bow and Material Girl are the only two Madonna songs I've ever gone out of my way to hear.]

[FINAL-ER NOTES: I still like the song and want it to have a high placement, but perhaps not quite this high... while I maintain that all songs from #17 to #37 can be placed in just about any order or seen as tied, it feels like I'd rather have the "too familiar" song at #37 so that the newer songs could get more of a chance to shine. But, the list is what it is.]

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10/15/18 10:38:13 PM
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Song Name: Room of Angel
Song Origin: Akira Yamaoka feat Mary Elizabeth McGlynn
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXCsXcs6nA" data-time="

Nominator: IhatethisCPU (3/15)



I don't really go for anything horror related. Books, movies, songs, TV shows... if it's horror related, I'm going to stay away from it. Same for anything dark or violent, usually ; it took me years to start watching Arrow because everything I'd heard about the first season painted it as way too dark to be anything I'd want to see. It wasn't until trailers for Legends popped up that I was willing to even give it a chance... and with all the time they're spending hyping the next season as super DARK and ultra VIOLENT and bragging that they had to fight the censors for the right to be SUPER ULTRA DARK VIOLENT FEST, I may just be done with that whole universe at this point.

The bunny pauses for a minute as she tries to follow that train of thought back to where it was before it derailed so completely.

...

YouTube suggests she listen to the full version of The Real Folk Blues, which she does, leaving things paused for the next six minutes.

Huh? Oh right, right. The point I was getting to is that I have very little experience with Silent Hill. But after this song and "Walk On Vanity Ruins", I'm starting to wonder if I may actually like the soundtracks to that series. So far, it's 2-for-2 on lyrical songs that I enjoyed, and the songs came from different games... it's definitely a good sign.

[FINAL NOTES: Coming up tomorrow, the 20 songs that were determined to be better than 90% of the stuff nominated!]

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10/15/18 10:42:01 PM
#378:


Top twenty yessssss

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10/15/18 10:42:18 PM
#379:


I nominated songs for two music rankings topics, both of which just hit the top 20.

In FL81's VGM rankings, I had one song in last place, and have 2/5 of my noms still alive.

In your topic, I had one song in last place, and have 2/5 of my noms still alive.

Hooray for consistency! (Nevermind the fact that the last place song in the other topic was intentional.)
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10/15/18 10:49:00 PM
#380:


I nominated songs for two music rankings topics, both of which just hit the top 20.

In FL81's VGM rankings, I had one song in second to last place, and have one of my noms still alive.

In your topic, I had one song in second to last place, and have one of my noms still alive.

Hooray for consistency!
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10/15/18 11:13:31 PM
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F

Yeah... you probably might want to watch the film. Surprised that you haven't at least heard of it, it was a pretty big deal.

Rant:
A number of my nominations are known as Cantopop, much like how j-pop or k-pop is defined). It used to be very popular in the 70s-90s, even getting some following in Japan, China, Taiwan and South East Asia. This past 20 or so years has seen it go steadily down the shithole to the point that not even the locals care very much anymore. I prefer to listen to anime songs and VGM than whatever crap they come up with these days, and I kind of envy my parents who could personally experience that golden period.
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10/15/18 11:41:10 PM
#383:


...Full disclosure, out of all of mine, I... kinda expected the Mentos jingle to go out second or first. *Huh.*
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Se7enthrust
10/16/18 8:18:52 AM
#384:


PrestonStarry2 posted...
This topic is unreadable.

What's with the annoying quotes and ===== spaces in between the songs with what you are typing out?


Try not being a d**** dude. Half the s*** you post is unreadable.

Sorry Raetsel. Just ignore this guy if he bugs you.
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10/16/18 8:24:19 AM
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I actually prefer Metallicas version of Astronomy but I do understand the nostalgia level of BOCs.
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10/16/18 10:34:37 AM
#386:


Se7enthrust posted...
I actually prefer Metallicas version of Astronomy but I do understand the nostalgia level of BOCs.


No nostalgia involved. I hadn't heard this version until it was nominated here and I didn't hear Metalica's until your writeup, which wasn't too long after... think I'd only heard the BOC version twice at that point. I also have no particular nostalgia for the band themselves; I've only heard three other songs of theirs ( (Don't Fear) The Reaper, Burning' For You, and Godzilla ; the latter only from Guitar Hero and IIRC that was a cover version anyway).





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Song Name: Calling to the Night
Song Origin: Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkgn3QUA2w" data-time="

Nominator: Mega Mana (2/5)



I never finished Portable Ops. I made a brief attempt at it when it was new, but quit after the first boss--some ice guy whose name I can't be bothered to remember. Ice Guy became a playable character afterwards, but was so much weaker than when he was a boss that it was almost comical, and I just quit there.

When Peace Walker came out and dismissed all of Portable Ops in one line of dialogue, I felt validated in my choice to not continue with the game.

Now, I'm thinking I should try it again. Any game with a song this good can't be all bad. And after everything between Kojima & Konami, it's not like there's going to be any more actual Metal Gear games, so this is about all I have left.

...well I haven't played Ghost Babel yet, though I've heard good things about it. And several other spin-offs, I suppose. Never finished either Acid game or Revengeance, but those aren't really traditional enough to scratch the Metal Gear itch.



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10/16/18 10:50:39 AM
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Song Name: Nanmushi's/Nimeoseudok's Theme
Song Origin: Violent Vengeance
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXv-V3ss1nY" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (1/9)

YEAH, BOI!

[FINAL NOTES: I felt this song would be the perfect introduction to the top 10%, but after rearranging the list at the last minute it wound up making it just a bit further.]



ZETSUMEI OUGI!

In Memoriam


Lowest Ranked Song: Battle (199th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Nanmushi's/Nimeoseudok's Theme (19th Place)

So... songs about 9/11 and whatever this was, huh? Interesting. ]



[FINAL-ER NOTES: Like Madonna's song, I think this one's slightly too high... I'd probably drop this one to #36, so it could still be part of the clump while giving a boost to some other songs.

...though I feel like having this above Sufjan Stevens is a crime. He really should be in this clump too, I think I undervalued that one... too late to move Futile Devices up to #35? I suppose so.

Aaanywho..., I do honestly enjoy this. As blasphemous as it is to compare this to R.I.P., there is a certain similarity in what I like about both songs--what drew me into R.I.P. was the sampling of a different song and the sampled parts skipping and breaking, which this song has in spades. I've also stated repeatedly I wasn't going to be remotely objective and that I enjoyed songs that made me laugh, which this one did. This was always going to get a really high score.

Nomination list was suitably eclectic. I approve.]

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10/16/18 11:07:50 AM
#388:


You're quite hostile
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10/16/18 12:57:57 PM
#389:


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10/16/18 3:33:24 PM
#390:


handsomeboy2012 posted...
Yeah... you probably might want to watch the film. Surprised that you haven't at least heard of it, it was a pretty big deal.


Sorry, meant to reply to this last night but it was a busy evening. I had heard of it, but none of the specifics; I knew it was popular, starred humans, did not feature robots, and was sad. Suffice to say, that minuscule information had no impact on my enjoyment or interpretation of the video.





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Song Name: Hunnybee
Song Origin: Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrKlSkxRHA" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (2/15)



I hated this song the first time I listened to it. I couldn't make out a single complete line he was singing, the chorus repeated too often, and the video was designed to be incredibly stressful. It wasn't until the second listen, armed with a copy of the lyrics and the knowledge that no one was going to die*, that I could even try to enjoy the song.

It ultimately turned out to be quite catchy and bittersweet in the best possible way, but if I only counted first impressions, this would have wound up in the bottom 10.

*One commentor's girlfriend believes that hunnybee does die in the video; the tree branch falling symbolizing tragedy. I don't agree with that, but it's probably a good thing I didn't read that comment until after I already liked the song. </.<

[FINAL NOTES: Huh. I really didn't expect this whole "star targets another victim as soon as someone dies" bit to be a running gag, but it seems to be happening a lot.

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[FINAL-ER NOTES: This is another of the songs that got stuck in my head on a regular basis.]

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10/16/18 3:48:10 PM
#391:


And the final song to be stuck in this particular clump is...



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Song Name: Road Head
Song Origin: Japanese Breakfast
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCmLjb-ocPY" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (1/15)


I don't usually enjoy any song with explicit lyrics and I've docked songs on this list for significantly less than the opening verse of this one. But, there are a few exceptions and somehow I found myself incredibly drawn to this song.

Considering the subject matter of trying to do anything to please your partner sexually to save a damned relationship, I don't think it could have gone any lighter without ruining the song.

Also, she decided to explain every part of this song, but.... I forgive it in this instance. This song never had any mysteries to ruin as it was always fairly straightforward. Also there was a pretty neat story about Tammy Wynette, so it's fine.

Really, the greatest testament to her strength as a performer, is that I was able to connect with her and her lyrics, in spite of the subject matter. She's truly great and deserves more attention than she seems to be getting. Not even a million views yet?

CRITICAL FINISH!

In Memoriam

Lowest Ranked Song: Break-Thru (184th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Road Head (17th Place)

Hunnybee is probably the song I've gotten stuck in my head the most times since starting this ranking. Also, I think you had a very good selection of different songs, all of them stood out in some way... even Dinner, which full disclosure, I don't think I can recall even one line of. I've heard it six or seven times now, enjoyed it every time, and I still can't recall anything other than her walking dogs in the video. It's remarkable how amnesia inducing that song is.



[FINAL-ER NOTES: Ehhh, calling this part of the clump is selling it a bit short. While I could easily shuffle placements #18 through #37 around--Hunnybee is amazing, but I could easily argue the haunting beauty of Sorrow should give it that spot ; the fact that Lateralus has the best opening of any song here gives it good claim to the 18th slot; the intensity of Graves, the emotional video of Sparkle, the mysterious nature of Astronomy, and pretty much every other song in that clump... all could easily take the 18th slot.

I'm not taking any of those over Road Head. It is definitely a cut above everything that came before it.

...not that this helps its placement any. The number of > signs I place between placements 18 & 17 is irrelevant, as it still translates to just one ranking anyway.]

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10/16/18 5:58:14 PM
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Song Name: Number City
Song Origin: Coheed and Cambria
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAnmjDGV0BY" data-time="

Nominator: Bane_Of_Despair (1/15)


This song does just about everything I could ask for. It's unique, experimental, it clearly tells a story, plenty of artificial beeps (and at one point a voice that seems straight out of Berzerk), and it's from a genre I don't recognize.

...

...A genre I don't know, huh? Then it must be post hardcore.

*checks*

...Ehh, song is fantastic enough that I'll allow it.



[FINAL NOTES: I really don't want to cut this one yet... but once again, we're at a new block of songs where I don't want to cut anything. The top 16 is SO GOOD... but I feel like this one gets cut here, as much as I'm sure I'll regret it.

FINAL SMASH!

In Memoriam

Lowest Ranked Song: Coming Down (192nd Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Number City (16th Place)

All of your nominations were a joy, as they were pretty much all songs that I would never hear in any other context. While I may not have enjoyed all of them, the contest wouldn't have been half as fun without their inclusion, and I truly thank you.]



[FINAL-ER NOTES: I want to move this up to 14th place. I do regret having it this low, just... not very much because everything is so good now, that rearranging things to get it any type of boost is very difficult.]

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Song Name: Americans
Song Origin: Oneohtrix Point Never
Song Link: https://open.spotify.com/track/3fPqgONMLh8tIO2ndpqdXT
Nominator: MycroProcessor (3/10)


I have no idea what I just listened to, but I feel like it comes close to perfection.

[FINAL NOTES: I said the songs were great, I didn't say the write-ups were.]

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10/16/18 6:10:20 PM
#393:


alright well I beat NFUN

Also that isn't post hardcore either! Now you're really pushing it with that! They used to be a bit early in their career but now they definitely aren't
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10/16/18 6:12:32 PM
#394:


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10/16/18 6:17:15 PM
#395:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Also that isn't post hardcore either! Now you're really pushing it with that! They used to be a bit early in their career but now they definitely aren't


Blame Wikipedia's editors who feel every band in existence is at least 1/4th post-hardcore!

The group's music incorporates aspects of progressive rock, pop, heavy metal, and post-hardcore

They're progressively heavy post hardcore metal pop rocks.
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10/16/18 6:32:11 PM
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yeah, gotta agree with bane here. coheed and cambria isn't post-hardcore, they're prog rock/metal. if they were post-hardcore i never would have gone see them live.

i guess you can argue their experimentalness is "an incorporation of post-hardcore" but... you could just as well attribute that to their progginess. that's like saying "they incorporate elements of blues rock" because they use the electric guitar or something.

edit: though yeah, wikipedia DOES describe their first two albums as (partially) post-hardcore. interesting. personally i've never thought of them as a post-hardcore band.
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10/16/18 9:13:08 PM
#398:


MycroProcessor posted...
You should check out the rest of the R Plus Seven album


Sure, I'll add it to the final version of ZA'LIST



Mr Lasastryke posted...
interesting. personally i've never thought of them as a post-hardcore band.


I'd agree that this particular song sounds nothing like anything else described as post hardcore this topic, which is what made the running gag so frustrating. There was no common ground between anything; Secret G didn't sound like the same genre as My Chemical Romance songs (at least, the one or two songs of theirs I'd heard from game soundtracks). Then you get into people arguing that SZA could be post hardcore if you changed the instruments and Wikipedia declaring everything to have Post Hardcore influences.

Like the term comes up absolutely everywhere, to a point that it feels like it has no meaning. Does Number City sound like it has any connection to those other songs at all? Nope. Does Wikipedia feel the need to list Post Hardcore as one of the bands four main influences in the opening paragraph for what feels like no reason? Yep.



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Song Name: Shadows
Song Origin: Childish Gambino
Song Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTDVLcTp2xw" data-time="

Nominator: Dragon66116 (1/15)


Well, I did say that the only rap song I ever truly loved was a Childish Gambino song with distorted vocal effects. So, obviously, I really enjoy this too... it just falls into the trap of being too obvious? It's like, "here's that artist you like doing those things you like him for!"

[FINAL NOTES: I should make more of an effort to listen to his songs. He's 2/2 on songs I like and if I truly want to listen to more music like that, that's as good a place to start as I'm ever going to get.

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1.Alice Cooper

2.OSTs from games published by Ocean Software.

3.Something by The Mars Volta.

4.Some more Kindo music.

5.Vektroid.

6.One or two more songs by Nightwish

7.The album "New Man Theme" came from.

8.DM DOKURO.

9.Something else described as "Avant-Garde Metal".

10.Third Eye Blind (Album)

11.The album Cato as a Pun came from.

12.One or two songs by Let's Eat Grandma

13.The album Astronomy came from and whatever other songs I'm supposed to listen to along with it.

14.A couple more Childish Gambino/Donald Glover songs.]]


Unfortunately...

TOUCH OF DEATH!

In Memoriam

Lowest Ranked Song: Red Sam (197th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Shadows (14th Place)

...After being reminded of Red Sam, I can't focus on anything else. ]





[FINAL-ER NOTES: Alright, alright, I know that's not a fair note to end on.

First, I did want more exposure to rap music, and you gave a decent variety of options; from recent songs like They.Resurrect.Over.New. to classics like It Ain't Hard to Tell, you offered a wider look into that genre than any other single nominator.

Real World proved to be an unexpected joy; I expected to dismiss it as "too familiar, next", but it managed to soar into the top 50. And may still have been slightly undervalued, as I could really go for a relaxing song like that right about now...

Other songs also covered a lot of ground and, while I strongly disliked Red Sam, like I said in the intro--I'm honestly grateful for the opportunity to listen to something that's as far from my comfort zone as possible.]

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10/16/18 9:16:44 PM
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I think this is probably a hot take among Coheed fans, but in my opinion, if you take the Afterman albums as one singular project, it's their best work ever. The Number City/Gravity's Union one-two punch on Descension is a big part of that, so I'm stoked to see the former of those make it so high on the list.
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