Board 8 > Anime and Manga Topic 202: A Dream of Summer

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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 6:07:40 PM
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 6:08:02 PM
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swordz9
10/06/18 6:25:06 PM
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Surprised it got anything higher than the 1s and Nope.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 6:34:32 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/06/18 6:34:44 PM
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pyresword
10/06/18 6:47:48 PM
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Revue Starlight Episode 1

Me halfway through the episode: Ok this is pretty neat, but I really don't get where all the comparisons to Utena are coming from.

Me at the end of the episode: ...oh.


Anyway that was pretty good. Looking forward to the rest of this.

Also oh my goodness these visuals. If episode 1 is any indication than this will be worth watching just for that alone even if the story ends up collapsing somehow.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 6:50:19 PM
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swordz9
10/06/18 6:51:17 PM
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Yeah, Im surprised trash fan service shows get the immediate NOPE from you without a chance, but a show literally about a pedophile tormenting a loli gets a consideration watch and approval afterward
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:04:06 PM
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swordz9
10/06/18 7:05:33 PM
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Yeah, but you refuse to even watch some of the actual good shows with some ecchi content just because it exists at all. Its just weird how selective you are with it. The premise of this alone sounds worse than almost anything the average ecchi series even has lol
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:07:52 PM
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Premise sounds terrible, and I said as much when I praised it! Bunnygirl sounds terrible, too, but that had a great premier. Can't always trust the writeups.

In fact, MOST of the anime this season sounds like garbage in the chart.
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swordz9
10/06/18 7:12:22 PM
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Yeah, but its not like the description of this show is misleading or anything. The entire premise and focus of it is gonna be predator muscle lady lusting after and teasing the loli because it gets her hot and bothered. There isnt really anything else there from the sound of it. Its probably the most honest description on the chart because thats what the whole show is gonna be about....
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:18:41 PM
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I dunno man, I just watched it and liked it. It's not treated as ecchi.
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swordz9
10/06/18 7:27:56 PM
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It doesnt have an ecchi tag anyways. Im just saying you can tell exactly what kind of show it is by the description and genre tags. Its a comedy where virtually all the scenes will be the adult woman teasing the loli because its her fetish. I didnt even read any of the reviews aside from the number scores and I could probably guess quite a bit of the content the series will have because it will likely be the usual staples (insisting on changing/dressing, insisting on bathing, smelling laundry, spying on and fantasizing about, etc.) Im not saying its a good or bad show. Im just saying its honest about what it is and the description is actually on point for once.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:35:11 PM
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Well it just works. You haven't watched it, so who know, maybe you'll like it too.

It doesn't take much to turn me towards or away from a show. Goblin Slayer, for example, was inarguably a great premier, but I've already dropped it because of the on screen rape. I've got zero tolerance on that.
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Robazoid
10/06/18 7:40:35 PM
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Didn't Devilman Crybaby have a whole bunch of on screen rape?

(I haven't watched Goblin Slayer yet, I guess maybe it's handled differently there)
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swordz9
10/06/18 7:42:14 PM
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Robazoid posted...
Didn't Devilman Crybaby have a whole bunch of on screen rape?

(I haven't watched Goblin Slayer yet, I guess maybe it's handled differently there)

I cant specifically remember if it did or didnt, but the show was super fucked up anyways >_>
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GranzonEx
10/06/18 7:46:39 PM
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why are we so focused on hating nudity when murder literally happens and nobody bats an eye in just about every anime
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Robazoid
10/06/18 7:47:30 PM
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I just remember the one scene where a devil girl gets forced to have sex by a guy with a gun, then halfway through she murders him... and continues having sex with the corpse. I feel like that should be classified as rape but man what a weird situation.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:47:40 PM
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Robazoid posted...
Didn't Devilman Crybaby have a whole bunch of on screen rape?

(I haven't watched Goblin Slayer yet, I guess maybe it's handled differently there)


It is indeed and issue of context and presentation.

GranzonEx posted...
why are we so focused on hating nudity when murder literally happens and nobody bats an eye in just about every anime


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY" data-time="

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GranzonEx
10/06/18 7:50:11 PM
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I mean ffs we have a literal manga about a guy with a magical notebook that can kill anyone by writing their name on it but I bet people are more appalled by the fact that he's a heartless asshole that uses women to do his bidding in his quest to murder more innocent people
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Robazoid
10/06/18 7:51:49 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
I mean ffs we have a literal manga about a guy with a magical notebook that can kill anyone by writing their name on it but I bet people are more appalled by the fact that he's a heartless asshole that uses women to do his bidding in his quest to murder more innocent people

Personally, I was more appalled by the last third where the story became bad.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:52:30 PM
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I dunno, that's a bit different from rape.

If Kira raped a women on screen I would think worse of that than all his murders!
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 7:53:02 PM
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Robazoid posted...
GranzonEx posted...
I mean ffs we have a literal manga about a guy with a magical notebook that can kill anyone by writing their name on it but I bet people are more appalled by the fact that he's a heartless asshole that uses women to do his bidding in his quest to murder more innocent people

Personally, I was more appalled by the last third where the story became bad.


Facts.
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swordz9
10/06/18 7:54:06 PM
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Most of us are desensitized to fictional murder because characters die all the time in movies, shows and video games. I mean Im still bothered by it in some cases like Crybaby because its an oh god why is everything so depressing, but if its like some dude in a giant robot blowing up another dude in a robot like whatever unless it does some sad emotional montage of the wife and kid he leaves behind or something
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GranzonEx
10/06/18 7:55:39 PM
#126:


yea that last 3rd was no good

too much bullshit being pulled out of thin air for N
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GranzonEx
10/06/18 8:01:12 PM
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swordz9 posted...
Most of us are desensitized to fictional murder because characters die all the time in movies, shows and video games. I mean Im still bothered by it in some cases like Crybaby because its an oh god why is everything so depressing, but if its like some dude in a giant robot blowing up another dude in a robot like whatever unless it does some sad emotional montage of the wife and kid he leaves behind or something

I go on killing sprees in a lot of open world games and get a kick out of the screaming citizens that freak out when I kill someone

it makes me want to keep going...

this reminds me of that meme with the apprehensive villager in Skyrim when you quicksave as soon as you enter town
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:06:08 PM
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Just preemptively, like...of you can't see the difference in how Devilman presents it's sexual violence versus Goblin Slayer and similar ilk...I can't help ya. I know nobody is technically saying that yet.

GranzonEx posted...
yea that last 3rd was no good

too much bullshit being pulled out of thin air for N


Netflix Death Note > Last third of Death Note.

Of course Deathflix 2 is probably gonna cover similar stuff so that's gonna be the REAL test.
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/06/18 8:07:50 PM
#129:


No lie. I have high hopes for Deathflix 2.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:10:41 PM
#130:


I also wanna clarify, I did in fact say ahead of time that I was gonna give that scene in Goblin Slayer a pass because it was a one time thing I was already aware was gonna happen, but I've been informed that rape is a pretty prominant narrative device through future volumes, even in the LNs, so I'm just dropping it ahead of time here rather than getting invested.

Pretty much just Akame ga Kill all over again, including White Fox. Just not gonna fall for it this time.
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swordz9
10/06/18 8:11:23 PM
#131:


Im betting Goblin presents it as something sexy or just uses it for cheap thrills or whatever. Man guys stop making me think about Crybaby though. That is the most miserable fucking anime I have ever seen and I feel awful remembering it. If I could go back in time Id tell myself not to watch it
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:12:11 PM
#132:


swordz9 posted...
Im betting Goblin presents it as something sexy or just uses it for cheap thrills or whatever.


No, it's an upsetting scene. I'm not tagging spoilers bringing it up because I know several people who would want to know ahead of time that it was in there.
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/06/18 8:12:13 PM
#133:


Devilman was legit man. Such a wild ride.
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pjbasis
10/06/18 8:14:29 PM
#134:


Fuck yeah theres a show I could recommend to even non anime people.

Good choice for netflix
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:15:02 PM
#135:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Devilman was legit man. Such a wild ride.


Still in the running for best of the year. Gonna be a REAL tough one. I thought last year was rough with the Abyss/Lustrous/Creators triple threat, but man.
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:16:20 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Fuck yeah theres a show I could recommend to even non anime people.

Good choice for netflix


I have generally been very pleased with their actual original anime content. Stumbled a bit there with Sword Gai...
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pjbasis
10/06/18 8:16:31 PM
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GranzonEx
10/06/18 8:16:53 PM
#138:


Exdeath
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pjbasis
10/06/18 8:18:12 PM
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Mac Arrowny
10/06/18 8:20:45 PM
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The manga had a lot of rape at least. Maybe not as much in the anime. It's usually okay, but the one arc is pretty bad about it.
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pjbasis
10/06/18 8:21:33 PM
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Oh fuck I remember now.

The flamethrower dude's family lmao
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 8:21:53 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Akame ga kill referenced rape?


Naw, I just meant a White Fox fantasy anime with promise that ends up being garbage.

White Fox had the decency to cut all of the awful rape OUT of Akame ga Kill, even though it was just implied in the first place and not on screen. Kind of why I was hoping they'd do the same here.
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pjbasis
10/06/18 8:26:38 PM
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In other news I'm watching Samurai Champloo in 2018.

I didn't expect it to lean into comedy so much!
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swordz9
10/06/18 8:31:44 PM
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I generally dont like anything that gets super depressing. I want to watch stuff to be happy and not see awful things happen to characters just trying to be happy
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pjbasis
10/06/18 9:04:08 PM
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Robazoid
10/06/18 9:17:27 PM
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Watched a few first episodes.

Between the Sky and Sea was pretty stupid. I'm not a fan of the whole 'men vs women' dynamic they're pushing when space fishing uses machines and logically there shouldn't be any difference between the sexes. Also, forcing a rookie to join a team and go out with literally zero prep or training was beyond dumb. I hope this improves because that first episode was pretty bad.

Ms. vampire who lives in my neighborhood, this one I actually enjoyed! It looks like it'll be a fun SoL about a girl who likes dolls latching onto a doll-like vampire. I like the two main characters so far, they're both fairly unique and have been really expressive.

As for Goblin Slayer, eh, that was fine I guess. I was expecting something way more explicit from the rape scene, so when that was all it was it didn't hit me as hard as it might have if I went in not expecting anything. Beyond that it seems to be about a guy who slaughters goblins, and that's a fine premise! It gave me flashbacks to clearing out goblin caves in Oblivion and Skyrim. I just wonder how they'll expand the premise because surely it isn't just clearing caves over and over.

Season ranking so far:

Ms. vampire who lives in my neighborhood
Zombieland Saga
Goblin Slayer
Between the Sky and Sea
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Mac Arrowny
10/06/18 10:50:21 PM
#147:


oh hey a good episode of Revue Starlight finally (ep 7)
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handsomeboy2012
10/06/18 11:03:35 PM
#148:


There's quite some hype around SAO/Index and I haven't watched a single episode. One of these days I might get around to them...
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LapisLazuli
10/06/18 11:04:20 PM
#149:


Alright finally time to get on this episode 1 train. So many shows.
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swordz9
10/06/18 11:10:29 PM
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Ill get on the episode 1 train when theyre actually available for free people. Should be Monday or Tuesday I think
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