Board 8 > Anime and Manga Topic 202: A Dream of Summer

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TexasZea
10/07/18 6:00:34 PM
#201:


"it's just a work of fiction bro"
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profDEADPOOL
10/07/18 6:02:25 PM
#202:


I'm a big believer in artists being able to create what they want, but people shouldn't be belittled for choosing to not consume something with content they aren't comfortable with.

I sometimes wish Monogatari didn't have all the loli and incest shit so more people would give it a try, but Nisio has every right to put it in if he wants, and people who find that too much to enjoy should just chose to not watch/read it.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 6:17:44 PM
#203:


Monogatari is a good example. The quality of the series is so high that I give it a pass, but it still bothers me. Non consensual sexual content is an enormous multiplier on the NOPE scale for me, though. All it would take is one scene and Monogatari would be ruined.

I understand the artistic integrity argument, but all it does around here is remind me of Vlado pissing himself because they gave the loli in Xenoblade pants.
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pjbasis
10/07/18 6:28:24 PM
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TexasZea
10/07/18 6:39:56 PM
#205:


letting vlado dictate your brain is a requirement of being a board 8 user though...
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 6:46:52 PM
#206:


I'm not belittling anyone for not liking anything. That's usually LTM's forte. The attitude that people shouldn't be allowed to consume or create content people find disturbing is what I find LTM doing most of the time.

Nobody says anything when people get murdered but as soon as Mr. Johnson forcibly enters someone we have people up in arms.
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pjbasis
10/07/18 6:57:07 PM
#207:


I mean I think I get why rape is more "offensive" than murder.

Even in kids shows sometimes people can die, but sexual things are really taboo for our christian values, even if you're not a christian.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 7:17:05 PM
#208:


Shut the fuck up Granzon.

That never has and never will be true, and every time you bring it up everyone calls you out on your bullshit.

Don't know why you keep feeling the need to do this.
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voltch
10/07/18 7:19:38 PM
#209:


Rape is only ok when HBO does it :D
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profDEADPOOL
10/07/18 7:22:54 PM
#210:


voltch posted...
Rape is only ok when HBO does it :D

People were just as angry when GOT had rape tho
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Robazoid
10/07/18 7:23:08 PM
#211:


I will say that I've seen LTM bash someone for liking something (example: Killing Bites) but even there I took it as good-natured hyperbole. Not sure I've ever seen anything from him about someone not liking something but I haven't been a part of this topic series for as long as the rest of you.

Now let's all stop fighting and instead talk about Anima Yell, the hit new cheerleader anime.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 7:24:14 PM
#212:


Oh god so much anime, why am I still playing VC4.
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Mac Arrowny
10/07/18 7:41:11 PM
#213:


GranzonEx posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
GranzonEx posted...
it's a work of fiction, it doesn't matter how or why it's shown


That's really up to each individual to decide.

no it's called artistic integrity

as long as it's not depictions child porn anything is fair game


Why is child porn worse than rape?
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 7:43:14 PM
#214:


LapisLazuli posted...
Shut the fuck up Granzon.

That never has and never will be true, and every time you bring it up everyone calls you out on your bullshit.

Don't know why you keep feeling the need to do this.

it's true and I'll keep saying it every time this comes up

everything is ok if you like it or can find a way to justify it

Berserk? Has rape, ok with you
Goblin Slayer? Has rape, is trash
Killing Bites? Attempted rape, is trash
Monogatari arcs? Lolicon, is trash
Uzamaid? Lolicon, but it's ok because you can justify it
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profDEADPOOL
10/07/18 7:43:40 PM
#215:


Mac Arrowny posted...
GranzonEx posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
GranzonEx posted...
it's a work of fiction, it doesn't matter how or why it's shown


That's really up to each individual to decide.

no it's called artistic integrity

as long as it's not depictions child porn anything is fair game


Why is child porn worse than rape?

I think he meant like actual child porn, not animated.

EDIT: Or maybe not :v
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 7:44:46 PM
#216:


Mac Arrowny posted...
GranzonEx posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
GranzonEx posted...
it's a work of fiction, it doesn't matter how or why it's shown


That's really up to each individual to decide.

no it's called artistic integrity

as long as it's not depictions child porn anything is fair game


Why is child porn worse than rape?

you tell me why it's not
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swordz9
10/07/18 7:46:27 PM
#217:


Dammit the only anime up for free people right now is garbage SAO. Guess Im just gonna watch some 3D Halloween movie trash instead
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 7:50:54 PM
#218:


swordz9 posted...
Dammit the only anime up for free people right now is garbage SAO. Guess Im just gonna watch some 3D Halloween movie trash instead

if you can find Train to Busan you should give that a shot it's great, saw it a few days ago
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swordz9
10/07/18 7:52:04 PM
#219:


Ive already seen it. It was pretty great
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Robazoid
10/07/18 7:52:05 PM
#220:


Train to Busan seems to be on Netflix and I recommend it too. Great movie.
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/07/18 7:53:22 PM
#221:


Been watching a Horror Movie Every Night for October. Saw Train to Busan a few nights ago and it was legit.
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swordz9
10/07/18 7:56:05 PM
#222:


XFD why in the hell is Bleach under the Horror section. Its like somebody saw the description mention spirits and thought it was a horror series
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 7:56:07 PM
#223:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Been watching a Horror Movie Every Night for October. Saw Train to Busan a few nights ago and it was legit.

that's what I've been doing! watched Hereditary and It Follows yet? both of those really messed with my head, need to keep the lights on when I sleep >_>
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/07/18 7:56:41 PM
#224:


Saw It Follows last year. Haven't checked out Hereditary yet.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 7:58:45 PM
#225:


Neither Monogatari nor Uzamaid contain sexual violence.

I am not OK with the rape in Berserk.

This is the 4th time you've pulled this, so I'm throwing you on ignore for the time being. Really not interested.
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Tokoyami
10/07/18 8:02:55 PM
#226:


Hereditary is fuckin fantastic
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swordz9
10/07/18 8:03:09 PM
#227:


I dont think he meant you were ok the rape in Berserk. I think he meant it has horrible content like that, but it didnt make you drop the series.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 8:06:49 PM
#228:


I read Berserk over a decade ago. There's been so little content since then and none of it that explicit. Things change in 12 to 15 years. You grow up.
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swordz9
10/07/18 8:08:21 PM
#229:


I remember the last time I randomly decided to check out Berserk I clicked the latest chapter and after like a couple pages a horse tried to rape somebody. That series sure gets dark
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/07/18 8:10:08 PM
#230:


Berserk isn't for the faint of heart.
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 8:10:34 PM
#231:


That's, like, way towards the beginning of the series. If you hit latest chapter and got that, it was either 15 years ago or a way out of date source.
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swordz9
10/07/18 8:11:51 PM
#232:


It was a very long time ago yes, but it was still a decent way after the infamous rape scene I think. My nieces will be in their 40s before Berserk ever finishes though so Im gonna be an old man before I even get to read it all
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voltch
10/07/18 8:12:22 PM
#233:


Berserk is aight'

Ubel Blatt was the disappointing series!
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LapisLazuli
10/07/18 8:13:46 PM
#234:


Bruh, Miura ain't gonna live that long. He'll die while playing IM@ster in bed in 2027, having done 14 chapters between now and then.
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Mac Arrowny
10/07/18 10:23:26 PM
#235:


swordz, it's kinda funny that you say you want happy and positive fiction but constantly watch horror movies...

GranzonEx posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
GranzonEx posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
GranzonEx posted...
it's a work of fiction, it doesn't matter how or why it's shown


That's really up to each individual to decide.

no it's called artistic integrity

as long as it's not depictions child porn anything is fair game


Why is child porn worse than rape?

you tell me why it's not


It's basically the same thing.

I've always thought it's silly that video games never let you kill kids too.
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swordz9
10/07/18 10:33:43 PM
#236:


Most horror movies are hilarious and have almost no characters worth anything anyways
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 11:19:23 PM
#237:


Mac Arrowny posted...
It's basically the same thing.

I've always thought it's silly that video games never let you kill kids too.

the act is the same but the magnitude is not

I hate kids in video games too, the kids in the Bethesda Fallout games make me want to kill them every time they give me sass
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Mac Arrowny
10/07/18 11:22:17 PM
#238:


I suppose that's fair. Like, I'm kinda okay with seeing characters torturing or killing dogs, but if they do it to a cat it's much worse.
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Robazoid
10/07/18 11:23:51 PM
#239:


There was one X360 game (Ninety-Nine Nights) where you Dynasty Warriors-murder your way through a goblin village, panicking women and terrified children included. I remember it made me feel really shitty to be doing that and that's why I stopped playing it, so I'm glad video games don't have that (at least as something the player is forced to do).
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GranzonEx
10/07/18 11:29:06 PM
#240:


I think there was outrage for a trophy for Dante's Inferno or maybe it was for Dead Space? it was like a babystomper or babykiller trophy, I forgot which. I thought that was hilarious.

I'm also squeamish towards animal cruelty, but only in 3D, and sometimes in 2D if the act was really elaborate and not something simple like Jojo style mutilations of animals
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Mac Arrowny
10/07/18 11:38:25 PM
#241:


Hey @Robazoid I watched Anima Yell

it was kinda okay I guess. The first scene with the cheerleading was fun since it had solid animation and a nice upbeat song. Made me smile. I always liked the Chair jokes. Wasn't a fan of the rest of the episode though. The main character's pretty annoying, and her voice was terrible. I feel like she did a much better job as Serval in Kemono Friends.

Definitely the inferior Dogakobo show of the season!

also saving my Summer rankings from last topic so I can keep doing them...

1. Happy Sugar Life
2. Asobi Asobase
3. Steins;Gate Zero
4. Encouragement of Climb S3
5. Planet With
6. Chio's School Road
7. Harukana Receive
8. Cells at Work
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Robazoid
10/08/18 5:06:45 AM
#242:


Well, I watched the first episode UzaMaid. I thought it was pretty good, and definitely not as creepy as that concept could have been portrayed as. There were some good jokes and I like all the characters so far, plus the animation is shockingly good.

Still, it's definitely the inferior Dogakobo show of the season! All hail Anima Yell!

Season Ranking (this is shaping up to be a really great season, I've really liked all of these except SkySea, though GS is a step below the others):

Anima Yell
Ms. vampire who lives in my neighborhood
Zombieland Saga
UzaMaid
Goblin Slayer
Between the Sky and Sea
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swordz9
10/08/18 10:55:33 AM
#243:


Confirmed episode counts Ive seen so far:

Anima Yell - 12
Gridman - 12
Goblin Slayer - 12

Also Laid Back Camp is getting a 2nd season
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LapisLazuli
10/08/18 1:16:35 PM
#244:


Gridman episode 1 was solid, started kind of slow but picked up by the end into some Trigger magic. Also the girls are good.

I'm 7 minutes into SAO3 and this is a struggle. Like, whooooooo you gotta give me something to latch onto here.
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LapisLazuli
10/08/18 1:29:01 PM
#245:


Gonna just edit this post to complain as I watch as to not fill up the topic.

I realize using dozens of baloney phrases and names for things without an explanation is part of the in medias res dump, but it's going way overboard and just making it uninteresting because these conversations are coming off as meaningless.

These fucking kids don't know how ice works.

Did they literally just do a star wipe?

This is really gonna be another rescue the damsel arc, huh.

Kirito and Eugeo were clearly going to protect Alice however they could, but the implication here is that the knight took the girl, pulled her 50 feet away and then places and extremely over complicated restraint on her before they even moved or said anything, like something out of gag manga.

Being reminded that Sinon is pretty rad in a vacuum even if I think her actual character is hilariously bad.

Won't lie, seeing the whole crew in Gun Gale is pretty rad. Gun Gale stuff in general is cool when it's not surrounded by how much I hated that arc, lol.

Product placement for the real Fatal Bullet game in the fake anime game.

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pyresword
10/08/18 1:39:17 PM
#246:


I agree that the infodump parts (there's another one later) are not great.
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LapisLazuli
10/08/18 2:09:38 PM
#247:


Seems there's a limit to the amount of times you can edit a post.

Continuing it's rep as the people setting at a table talking anime.

Asuna hearing the phrase Underworld and jumping straight to the fucking Alice in Wonderland manuscript is hilarious hack writing convenience, even for Kawahara, lol.

The last 15 minutes have been nothing but death flags. Here's my heartbeat monitor, worried looks into dark allies in the rain, I can't live withou you, let's go to America together. If something bad doesn't happen here I'll eat my fucking shoe.

Bro, you fought off an adult with a knife in a parking lot and you constantly show that your sword skills are carried over at least partially from reality. You don't even attempt to dodge that bitch?

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LapisLazuli
10/08/18 2:26:40 PM
#248:


Done.

Well, at least the OP was pretty good.

I'll admit, I'm a little torn. This was a boring as fuck first episode, but...understandably so? Guess they kind of had to do it like this. It's like Fate/Zero's first episode, just executed way worse.

At the same time, something about this being a 4 cour season has me plenty interested. Kind of obligated to watch, too.
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LapisLazuli
10/08/18 3:02:15 PM
#249:


God, I love the dragon in Slime Isekai so much.
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BK_Sheikah00
10/08/18 4:16:54 PM
#250:


How much COFFEE SODA in new SAO?
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