Board 8 > A Dance With Dragons Mafia - Topic 15: You have to know your name

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Dels posted...

suprak says that plum previously hosted a game where a dead player could become a new third faction and recruit a living player

so like

i guess

I don't know if that was it exactly, but he said:

(In my game of thrones mafia game I actually did have a power that gave scum the oppurtunity to defect)

So...something that convinced him that Chris was legit on his offer.
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Reg posted...

Dels posted...

it happened but it was kind of obviously a joke. it's like PMing someone to say "you're playing well keep it up" which is, like, wrong to do, but, y'know, you can't expect the person to think you're still in the game and are trying to recruit them to third party with it

Well, sure. Taking it seriously is just as much on Plum as it is Chris.

But if you're going to tell me Chris of all people shouldn't have known better than to send a message like that in the middle of a game, I don't have words for you.

he apologized

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/allofthedeadpeople/chris-did-you-uh-contact-plum-about-an-alternate-w-t9.html

ScareChan posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

ScareChan posted...

Thank you Suprak

I know this game was a headache on all fronts

and others may not have had fun but this series has been close to my heart

Maybe not the note you wanted to end on but I thank you very much

Thanks for playing! Sorry I didn't reply to your last PM but the game was going on so I try not to.

My kid is over whatever stomach bug he had so yes things are going quite well on my end.

TEAM DAD.

Also: MI just joined TEAM DAD.

@TotallyNotMI

WELCOME TO TEAM DAD

Whaaaat! Thats great! Congrats!

Man I want to be on team Dad

I echo your sentiments on both fronts, scare
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I didn't feel like registering to read the board <_<

Yes my use of the world "eliminated" in the rules made Chris and Dels skip over it so they didn't see they weren't supposed to talk to each other yet. So Chris got booted out of DVC halfway through day 2 (he didn't post anything he shouldn't since he didn't post again after talking to Dels).

I've never had to modkill a player not in the game before...
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I'm a little frustrated because I think I played masterfully and it was overshadowed by the other stuff.

Oh well
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you did play masterfully

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.
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Yep plum was top 2 player this game for me. Second only to the MURDEROUS HAN who was bodying scum all day 2 only to be mostly ignored by the rest of town.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.

i mean you did literally name the exact scum team and vote scum

you also put in a ton of effort continuing to post and try to get people to do shit

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.

I know you get a lot of love at MU, I think its just gotten to the point where your style clashes here but your play has grown just not to get your point across here
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htaeD posted...

ScareChan posted...

and yeah Chris messaged Plum that he could defect from us and Plum took it seriously so thats why Plum didnt end the day before and maybe wanted to change to dowolf today

fucking..., what the hell Chris?

This is completely not what happened but ok

There was like a 30 minute period where I wasn't sure if I believe him before suprak told me he was lying

Scare is bitter I bussed him
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Yeah your past couple of days really redeemed what I thought was a very bad start of the game. You were the only one with the correct scum team at the end, after all.

There was a lot of bad stuff before it, but you did fine by the end. Most of your issues were questionable behavior type things which I think are pretty easy to fix so yeah not a huge deal.
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masterplum posted...

There was like a 30 minute period where I wasn't sure if I believe him before suprak told me he was lying

Also, in plum's defense, the only reason he believed it was real was because he had a similar (?) kind of role in one of his games. Otherwise he might've assumed it was a joke too.
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I thought Chris might be telling the truth because I interpreted independent good players as people in universe who are good, not mafia players who are good

And I literally made this route for one of my games where a town power could invite a scum to defect

And he was supposed to be in town chat yet somehow knew I was scum

So I asked if it was serious
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Yep plum was top 2 player this game for me. Second only to the MURDEROUS HAN who was bodying scum all day 2 only to be mostly ignored by the rest of town.

Fair
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Suprak

if Dowolf dies does Viserion live for a day like Ghost?
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masterplum posted...

htaeD posted...

ScareChan posted...

and yeah Chris messaged Plum that he could defect from us and Plum took it seriously so thats why Plum didnt end the day before and maybe wanted to change to dowolf today

fucking..., what the hell Chris?

This is completely not what happened but ok

There was like a 30 minute period where I wasn't sure if I believe him before suprak told me he was lying

Scare is bitter I bussed him

Im not bitter you bussed me

Im bitter you were a bad team mate from day 1 and then almost got the game called off
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.

I know you get a lot of love at MU, I think its just gotten to the point where your style clashes here but your play has grown just not to get your point across here

I feel I'm a better player than when I started, but I would still consider myself in the lowest tier on this site. I've only played one game on MU lol.
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Scare, you didn't want to play around anything. It's so easy for town to have a vig that lied and I get shot if I save you last second
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masterplum posted...

Scare, you didn't want to play around anything. It's so easy for town to have a vig that lied and I get shot if I save you last second

We flipped two town that had ways to kill us without a lynch already.

Also I think town was underpowered

I was paranoid God was bomb because I thought town was missing power
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you literally made up your own flavor for IGCD to explain your theory on him being a bomb
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So many additions to team dad
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ScareChan posted...

Suprak

if Dowolf dies does Viserion live for a day like Ghost?

No he instantly leaves the game.
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You played very well, you can be scum MVP or Supraks number 2, thats fine

but as a team player you were not very good. Individually sure, but as a team you were our weakest link easily
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Yeah your past couple of days really redeemed what I thought was a very bad start of the game. You were the only one with the correct scum team at the end, after all.

There was a lot of bad stuff before it, but you did fine by the end. Most of your issues were questionable behavior type things which I think are pretty easy to fix so yeah not a huge deal.

I know the emotional overreactions(calling Blade and Sbell names, trying to get Chris modkilled, tempting people to lynch me) are some of them, the 22 seconds after deadline(which was totally unintentional, but inexcusable) what else?
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Leafeon13N posted...

masterplum posted...

Scare, you didn't want to play around anything. It's so easy for town to have a vig that lied and I get shot if I save you last second

We flipped two town that had ways to kill us without a lynch already.

Lawyer + bomb is also completely unfair for scum as that is two ways for a good mislynch to be messed up.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.

I know you get a lot of love at MU, I think its just gotten to the point where your style clashes here but your play has grown just not to get your point across here

I feel I'm a better player than when I started, but I would still consider myself in the lowest tier on this site. I've only played one game on MU lol.

Yeah I was talking with Ben, I think even our middling players are getting to be really strong players like outside of here. But like they playteu here. Like you hit a glass cieling and there is so much respect until you smash it. But outside of here you can be like a top 10 person over here you're like middle of the pack. Not specifically you but generally
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ScareChan posted...

You played very well, you can be scum MVP or Supraks number 2, thats fine

but as a team player you were not very good. Individually sure, but as a team you were our weakest link easily

It was very hard to rank the scum team (OUTSIDE OF THAT TRAITOR BEN).

Scare was lynched but he was super slippery and got two town mislynches in a row.

Red was the leader and drove the team (especially day 1) and his plan of murdering a town power player almost went perfectly (if not for a lawyer). He was also really involved in the scum board and good with the various plots and evil doing.

Dowolf got scum's true power role and managed to ride it to end game. This game is much harder if dowolf gets killed and he fought back well. He also almost single handedly drove the MZero mislynch (ON TOWN POWER DAY 3?!?!) and wasn't even heavily suspected the past couple of days.

I thought the entire scum team did great.
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, I appreciate the nice things you guys said about me not being as bad as know I am on DVC, but let's be real. I am not good, just lucky.

I know you get a lot of love at MU, I think its just gotten to the point where your style clashes here but your play has grown just not to get your point across here

I feel I'm a better player than when I started, but I would still consider myself in the lowest tier on this site. I've only played one game on MU lol.

Yeah I was talking with Ben, I think even our middling players are getting to be really strong players like outside of here. But like they playteu here. Like you hit a glass cieling and there is so much respect until you smash it. But outside of here you can be like a top 10 person over here you're like middle of the pack. Not specifically you but generally

That's the thing though, I don't even consider myself middle of the pack here. I know my end game tends to be stronger as town and my early game tends to be stronger as scum, I just wish I could reconcile the two. Chris told me one of my biggest problems is defending myself when I am up to be mislynched, but I know I am decent at deflecting my mislynches unfortunately they usually end up on other members of town lol.
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Im stealing the mvp like I said

that kill on sbell over blade ended up being CLUTCH

and the timing of the Han kill was also very good for us
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Yeah your past couple of days really redeemed what I thought was a very bad start of the game. You were the only one with the correct scum team at the end, after all.

There was a lot of bad stuff before it, but you did fine by the end. Most of your issues were questionable behavior type things which I think are pretty easy to fix so yeah not a huge deal.

I know the emotional overreactions(calling Blade and Sbell names, trying to get Chris modkilled, tempting people to lynch me) are some of them, the 22 seconds after deadline(which was totally unintentional, but inexcusable) what else?

Those were most of them!

You @ing people and demanding they Lynch you is also borderline not playing to win, but you at least came around and were yelling at people to help you solve the game so it wasn't clear game throwing.

That's...just a lot for a single game. Again, nothing major, but a lot of little stuff like that.
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I'm not going to say too much here. I expect an apology from every Town member who lived past Day 2, but you should see that on the board.

Plum, you played great. Best play of the game, excepting Chris only because you lynched Scare when you didn't have to. Dowolf, you played pretty well, just very very very poorly at the end of Day 2 when you threw yourself behind Scare for no reason. You didn't need to defend him as hard as you did when he wasn't that seriously in contention. I mean, 100% of good Town players alive in the game at that time KNEW you were Scum because of it.

Scare, I'll give you credit for switching the kill to SBell.

Only person I'll immediately jump at...

Meow1000 posted...

Oh good it's over.

Quickly erasing this one from my memory.

@Meow1000

No Blade. You don't get to fucking do this. You were the worst player in this game by far. Town lost ENTIRELY because of you and your crap play. Burn this into your memory, because it's a badge you get to wear for the rest of your mafia career.
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ScareChan posted...

Im stealing the mvp like I said

that kill on sbell over blade ended up being CLUTCH

and the timing of the Han kill was also very good for us

If you guys had killed Blade instead town might have had a chance. Blade became dead weight and him and Tange refused to play the final day. I respect death and Shad actually humoring me and putting in some effort despite feeling I was scum.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Yeah your past couple of days really redeemed what I thought was a very bad start of the game. You were the only one with the correct scum team at the end, after all.

There was a lot of bad stuff before it, but you did fine by the end. Most of your issues were questionable behavior type things which I think are pretty easy to fix so yeah not a huge deal.

I know the emotional overreactions(calling Blade and Sbell names, trying to get Chris modkilled, tempting people to lynch me) are some of them, the 22 seconds after deadline(which was totally unintentional, but inexcusable) what else?

Those were most of them!

You @ing people and demanding they Lynch you is also borderline not playing to win, but you at least came around and were yelling at people to help you solve the game so it wasn't clear game throwing.

That's...just a lot for a single game. Again, nothing major, but a lot of little stuff like that.

Fair enough, this was definitely a game where everyone of my bad habits exploded out of me.
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Ok, I'm on fire now, so I'm just going to throw this on.

@Shaduln @DoubleTangicide @htaeD @IfGodCouldDie

If Han tells you that Scare is 100% Scum... THEN SCARE IS 100% SCUM. If Han tells you that Dowolf is almost certainly Scum along with him... THEN YOU SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.

ESPECIALLY when you find out that my role was CAN SEE WHAT CHRIS SAYS IN THE DEAD PLAYERS CHAT. like HOLY FUCKING HELL

Ok, with that off my chest, I'm just going to leave you all with quote from Dels, a respected mafia player:

"Town needs to learn to listen to people who know what they're doing".
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Im stealing the mvp like I said

that kill on sbell over blade ended up being CLUTCH

and the timing of the Han kill was also very good for us

If you guys had killed Blade instead town might have had a chance. Blade became dead weight and him and Tange refused to play the final day. I respect death and Shad actually humoring me and putting in some effort despite feeling I was scum.

my understanding is if we shot Blade it got redirected to Dowolf and we lose him and the double vote
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Fair enough, this was definitely a game where everyone of my bad habits exploded out of me.

Hey, if you know what they are and keep them in mind when playing in the future, that's literally how you improve.

@DoomTheGyarados you better fucking read my love letter to you O___O
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Han you flipping on me day 2 scared the shit out of me

and I was like "oh god Chris said something to him while he was in dvc" after your role flipped

the fear of chris lived on through your han
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ScareChan posted...

the fear of chris lived on through your han

and yet not a single townie said "wow chris was talking to han, maybe we should listen to what han was saying"

but plum did

plum did

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, I'm on fire now, so I'm just going to throw this on.

@Shaduln @DoubleTangicide @htaeD @IfGodCouldDie

If Han tells you that Scare is 100% Scum... THEN SCARE IS 100% SCUM. If Han tells you that Dowolf is almost certainly Scum along with him... THEN YOU SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.

ESPECIALLY when you find out that my role was CAN SEE WHAT CHRIS SAYS IN THE DEAD PLAYERS CHAT. like HOLY FUCKING HELL

Ok, with that off my chest, I'm just going to leave you all with quote from Dels, a respected mafia player:

"Town needs to learn to listen to people who know what they're doing".

I'll be honest, there was a topic that I basically skipped half of because I was so mad/frustrated.
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Plum was literally Town MVP from Day 3 on... EVEN PLAYING TO WIN AS SCUM, which he did, Plum still was Town MVP from Day 3 on.

That's wonk.
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Oh trust me I know
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Suprak, I would've preferred for Harris's role to have the Lawyer effect.

DVC getting to redirect a lynch would've been badass as hell. "Just as Sheep hit the chopping block, his head to be removed... a cold chill overtook the square. Faces turn to see a shambling mob of White Walkers, approaching from the mists. Screaming, the Town turns to flee, but the Walkers quickly converge on Scare, dragging him back with them to his certain death."

That would've been cool.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Plum was literally Town MVP from Day 3 on... EVEN PLAYING TO WIN AS SCUM, which he did, Plum still was Town MVP from Day 3 on.

That's wonk.

No kidding. I wasn't lying when I was yelling at people
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Hey @Suprak_the_Stud I know how hard it is to mod games, you did a good job. And it was a fun game.

Thanks for the fun game all, i know at points i was super afk whih i apologize for and I have already apologized to han but yeah.

The only thing thaf I felt was uncalled for was the theorycrafting over if I would fake a check to make someone look bad, especially knowing I would die I wouldnt do that as town. But no hard feelings about that. Just a bit annoying.

hey suprak

as day 1 town doublevoter last game of yours who imploded worse than igcd did here

stop putting in trap roles kthx
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Neablis posted...

Hey @Suprak_the_Stud I know how hard it is to mod games, you did a good job. And it was a fun game.

Thanks for the fun game all, i know at points i was super afk whih i apologize for and I have already apologized to han but yeah.

The only thing thaf I felt was uncalled for was the theorycrafting over if I would fake a check to make someone look bad, especially knowing I would die I wouldnt do that as town. But no hard feelings about that. Just a bit annoying.

Your watches were good for someone who isn't familiar with us. If you were more familiar you probably change the death watch but otherwise solid watches

We used our ninja vig shot on Chris that night so that's why you got nothing back
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