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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:20:18 AM
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Arnold Schwarzenegger admitted he stepped over the line several times with women in the past and regretted calling his political opponents girlie men.

In an interview with Men's Health published Wednesday, The Terminator actor addressed the #MeToo movement and said he apologized for his behavior toward women in the past.

Looking back, I stepped over the line several times, and I was the first one to say sorry. I feel bad about it, and I apologize, Schwarzenegger said. When I became governor, I wanted to make sure that no one, including me, ever makes this mistake.

In 2003, Schwarzenegger was running for governor of California when he was accused of groping women without their consent. The alleged incidents spanned for three decades on movie sets and studio offices, the Los Angeles Times reported at the time.

"Did he rape me? No," a woman said about a 1980 encounter in which Schwarzenegger allegedly touched her breast. "Did he humiliate me? You bet he did."

Schwarzenegger said once he was elected governor, he and his staff took sexual harassment prevention courses.

Thats why we took sexual harassment courses, to have a clear understanding, from a legal point of view and also from a regular-behavior point of view, of what is accepted and what is not, Schwarzenegger said.

The former California governor added though that his views on masculinity have not changed, saying hes always had respect for women.

Another regret Schwarzenegger has is calling his political opponents girlie men.

At the time it felt like the right thing to do. It was in my gut. I improvised it, he said.

I called them girlie men because they werent willing to take risks, he continued. They were afraid of everything. Politicians, in general, want to do little things so theres no risk involved. But it was shortsighted. In the long term, its better to not say that, because you want to work with them.


Full Article: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/arnold-schwarzenegger-admits-he-stepped-over-the-line-several-times-with-women-in-the-past
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For those of you who didn't know, Arnold is notorious for groping women. Back in the days when men groping women wasn't considered a big deal like it is now, it was seen more like stealing cookies from the cookie jar, he did it all the time.

Often to women he only just met.

Ever since he got into politics his crew have done a really good job downplaying his several decades of "cheeky hands"

So It's cool that he's not denying it.
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spudger
10/11/18 11:23:14 AM
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Arnie had larger breasts
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tote_all
10/11/18 11:23:30 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I called them girlie men because they werent willing to take risks, he continued. They were afraid of everything. Politicians, in general, want to do little things so theres no risk involved. But it was shortsighted. In the long term, its better to not say that, because you want to work with them.


"It was wrong because it hurts politics, not becausing using "girl" as an insult is a bad thing".

This is a dumb man image washing, not really understand the different layers of what he did wrong.
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EndOfDiscOne
10/11/18 11:24:35 AM
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No, people don't deserve the chance to grow and learn from their mistakes
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DoubleDare
10/11/18 11:25:12 AM
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Hes just a man.
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DarthWendy
10/11/18 11:25:58 AM
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But are we certain that we are carefully waiting for all the fact to be in, here ? I mean he claims he did it, but so far these are just allegations about himself. Often people have been seen admitting things that they didn't even do, especially under specific tense or pressured circumstances.
Shouldn't we just rather wait for due process and draw our conclusions from there, instead of starting yet another hysterical witch hunt on the chap ?
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fenderbender321
10/11/18 11:26:03 AM
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This is what 'the news' has become in America.
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DoomsSD
10/11/18 11:26:26 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
Hes just a man.


What is a man?!
SaithSayer
10/11/18 11:27:27 AM
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Arnold is awesome. Fuck whiners.
RaulJenkins
10/11/18 11:29:10 AM
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lock him up now
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:32:21 AM
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tote_all posted...


"It was wrong because it hurts politics, not becausing using "girl" as an insult is a bad thing".

This is a dumb man image washing, not really understand the different layers of what he did wrong.

I don't think using "girl" an insult towards men implies being a girl is a bad thing.

As "man" is an insult towards women.

The disrespect comes from calling you something you're not, not from what you're being called being bad.

If Trump said "Look at that mannish woman!" to Warren he wouldn't be hailed as giving a great compliment.
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tote_all
10/11/18 11:38:34 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't think using "girl" an insult towards men implies being a girl is a bad thing.


You think wrong.

UnfairRepresent posted...
If Trump said "Look at that mannish woman!" to Warren he would be hailed as giving a great compliment.


What?
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fenderbender321
10/11/18 11:41:44 AM
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You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:41:58 AM
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That was meant to be wouldn't.

Which is ironic considering we're talking about Trump <_<
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:42:32 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

Exactly.

It's an insult but not disrespecting women.
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Darkman124
10/11/18 11:46:43 AM
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I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

anyway, it is good that he recognizes what he did was wrong

better than the alternative i guess. the bar is low.
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tote_all
10/11/18 11:46:50 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.


Peoole actually think this...
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Mareen
10/11/18 11:47:16 AM
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At least he admits it and is willing to grow from it. I still hold respect for Arnie despite what he did because of that.
fenderbender321
10/11/18 11:47:34 AM
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tote_all posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.


Peoole actually think this...


tote_all posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.


Peoole actually think this...


Intelligent people, yes.
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:47:44 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

You're over thinking it

It's not "you're an embarrasment to your sex" It's "You're a embarrasment to yourself."
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Annihilated
10/11/18 11:48:02 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

Exactly.

It's an insult but one disrespecting women.


Uh, no, it's disrespecting men. That's the point.
Darkman124
10/11/18 11:48:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

You're over thinking it

It's not "you're an embarrasment to your sex" It's "You're a embarrasment to yourself."


sure, however you want to phrase it.
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DarthWendy
10/11/18 11:49:57 AM
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SJW logic : calling someone a baby is insulting to babies.
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tote_all
10/11/18 11:52:43 AM
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I must be the only nazi-sjw of CE
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 11:53:11 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

You're over thinking it

It's not "you're an embarrasment to your sex" It's "You're a embarrasment to yourself."


sure, however you want to phrase it.

I think there is a dramatic difference between those sentiments
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Darkman124
10/11/18 11:54:09 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I think there is a dramatic difference between those sentiments

i dont
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Nova4554
10/11/18 11:58:49 AM
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DoomsSD posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Hes just a man.


What is a man?!

a miserable little pile of secrets!!!
UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:00:31 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think there is a dramatic difference between those sentiments

i dont

You don't think there is a difference between insulting 1 person and saying 1 person is insulting 3 billion people?
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scar the 1
10/11/18 12:02:13 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

anyway, it is good that he recognizes what he did was wrong

better than the alternative i guess. the bar is low.

That's certainly part of it, but hey. Take a look at the characteristics that are typically ascribed to each gender in situations like this.
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:03:49 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
You don't think there is a difference between insulting 1 person and saying 1 person is insulting 3 billion people?


no

both serve the purpose of insulting 1 person
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:05:43 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
You don't think there is a difference between insulting 1 person and saying 1 person is insulting 3 billion people?


no

Wow.

My 3 year old niece understands that difference. I don't know how to explain it.
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Romulox28
10/11/18 12:06:23 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

is this a serious post?
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:07:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't know how to explain it.


i know you don't
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tote_all
10/11/18 12:11:01 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

is this a serious post?


Sadly
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:12:32 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't know how to explain it.


i know you don't

It's like trying to explain that 2 + 2 = 4 is different to 2 + 3 = 5 to someone who says they don't comprehend how numbers work.

I'll try.

One statement is insulting one person.

The other statement is saying that said person is insulting billions of people.

Same as going up to a Chinese guy and going "You're stupid!" vs "You just said all Chinese people are stupid!"

I don't get how you can't tell the difference.
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fenderbender321
10/11/18 12:12:48 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

is this a serious post?


What's wrong with it?
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:14:28 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Same as going up to a Chinese guy and going "You're stupid!" vs "You just said all Chinese people are stupid!"


this analogy doesnt relate to the situation

try again
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:24:04 PM
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Darkman124 posted...


this analogy doesnt relate to the situation

Why not?

You're claiming that saying a man is a girlie man is insulting to all men?
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:25:28 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
You're claiming that saying a man is a girlie man is insulting to all men?

i am not saying that, no
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:29:20 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
You're claiming that saying a man is a girlie man is insulting to all men?

i am not saying that, no


Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

You're over thinking it

It's not "you're an embarrasment to your sex" It's "You're a embarrasment to yourself."


sure.

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ChainedRedone
10/11/18 12:34:29 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think there is a dramatic difference between those sentiments

i dont

You don't think there is a difference between insulting 1 person and saying 1 person is insulting 3 billion people?


Did you just assume the gender of half the world's population? Holy shit just shut the fuck up.
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:35:49 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think there is a dramatic difference between those sentiments

i dont

You don't think there is a difference between insulting 1 person and saying 1 person is insulting 3 billion people?


Did you just assume the gender of half the world's population? Holy shit just shut the fuck up.

lol
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:41:36 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
You're claiming that saying a man is a girlie man is insulting to all men?

i am not saying that, no


Darkman124 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
I've always assumed the point of cross-gender insults was an implication that failing to meet the social expectations of your gender was a failing as a person, basically a message of "you are an embarrassment to your sex" rather than "the other gender is bad"

You're over thinking it

It's not "you're an embarrasment to your sex" It's "You're a embarrasment to yourself."


sure.


the quoted post does not enhance your argument that i said something i clearly did not say
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SaithSayer
10/11/18 12:44:30 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Romulox28 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

is this a serious post?


What's wrong with it?

Nothing.
tote_all
10/11/18 12:45:27 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...


this analogy doesnt relate to the situation

Why not?

You're claiming that saying a man is a girlie man is insulting to all men?


Are you really this dense?

If a guy is called girlie for being too emotional, thats not demeaning for women?

If a guys is bad at driving, and you ask "are you asian?", you think that isnt a negative reflection of asians?

Are you really not getting it?
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Darkman124
10/11/18 12:46:18 PM
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tote_all posted...
Are you really not getting it?


not getting it is his gimmick
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/18 12:47:40 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
tote_all posted...
Are you really not getting it?


not getting it is his gimmick

"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Well at least now I know that really you do comprehend it and are just too stubborn to go "I was wrong. Sorry"so instead you will pretend you don't understand it and insult me over and over.
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scar the 1
10/11/18 12:49:17 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Come on man, that's not an insult. In fact, you're really good at your gimmick, I would say he gave you a compliment.
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Blue_Inigo
10/11/18 12:50:06 PM
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Annihilated posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
You guys sure do have an odd sense of perception.

Calling a man a "girl" shouldn't be insulting to girls. It's not designed to be at all. It's only insulting to men who are called "girl", because men don't want to be girls. It's like telling a girl she looks like a dude. That isn't offensive to men. But it's offensive to the girl because girls usually don't want to look like men.

Exactly.

It's an insult but one disrespecting women.


Uh, no, it's disrespecting men. That's the point.

It's disrespecting men by implying theyre inferior for acting different. For acting like women. It insults both genders because the insult relies on the person viewing women as a step below. If that wasnt the case, there'd be no sting to it
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tote_all
10/11/18 12:51:43 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darkman124 posted...
tote_all posted...
Are you really not getting it?


not getting it is his gimmick

"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Well at least now I know that really you do comprehend it and are just too stubborn to go "I was wrong. Sorry"so instead you will pretend you don't understand it and insult me over and over.


Did you really just try to deflect my point by accusing someone else of ad hominem, as a reply to my point?

scar the 1 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Come on man, that's not an insult. In fact, you're really good at your gimmick, I would say he gave you a compliment.


I disagree, this is some entry level trolling.
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