Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 200: Sayonara Nimrata

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https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1051568534306902017?s=21
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1051568534306902017?s=21

Wrong Snake
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Its not so much our dependence on their oil. We have a LOT of oil, and our transition to alternative fuels is at least off the ground.

We are more dependent on them to keep buying our weapons, IMO. And by we I mean military industrial lobbyists
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Jakyl25 posted...

Its not so much our dependence on their oil. We have a LOT of oil, and our transition to alternative fuels is at least off the ground.

We are more dependent on them to keep buying our weapons, IMO. And by we I mean military industrial lobbyists

There is always someone to buy our shit. That doesn't matter much.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/03/21/u-s-net-petroleum-imports-plunging-toward-zero/

Heres what I mean about oil
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Corrik posted...

Ashethan posted...

Crazy idea: But how about we invest in renewable energy and reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

What kind of car do you drive?

Corrik plz don't tell me you're about to "well why aren't you driving a solar powered car" him.
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Didn't someone just post the "but you participate in society" comic strip?
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Corrik posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Its not so much our dependence on their oil. We have a LOT of oil, and our transition to alternative fuels is at least off the ground.

We are more dependent on them to keep buying our weapons, IMO. And by we I mean military industrial lobbyists

There is always someone to buy our shit. That doesn't matter much.

Losing Saudi Arabia as a weapons buyer would be a huge loss to weapons manufacturers that couldnt be made up elsewhere.

Yes they would still have plenty of buyers, but you know how businesses are. MAX PROFIT
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UltimaterializerX posted...

NBC had to retract their blatant idiocy/editing on the Trump confederate general quote.

The media lied and editing something out of context? WHY I NEVER.

They did issue a retraction yes, which was the correct thing to do.

But even watching to the entire clip with full context it's difficult to parse exactly what our president is saying. He DOES compliment Lee's prowess as a general before praising Grant as the guy who could beat Lee, but he does it so haphazardly. Trump is all over the place when he says anything.

And together we are taking back our country. We're returning the power back to the incredible American people. Ohio is the state that gave us a great president who hasn't been properly recognized, OK? William McKinley has not been properly recognized. What he did in terms of trade, in terms of war, but in terms of trade -- and I hate to say, in terms of being smart in tariffs, William McKinley has not been properly recognized.

But maybe someday he will. It also gave you a general, who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I'm talking about, right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn't beat Robert E. Lee. He was going crazy. I don't know if you know this story.

But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, I can't beat Robert E. Lee. And he had all of these generals. They look great. They were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There was only one problem. They didn't how the hell to win.

They didn't know how to fight. They didn't know how. And one day, it was looking really bad. And Lincoln just said, you -- hardly knew his name -- and they said, don't take him. He's got a drinking problem. And Lincoln said, I don't care what problem he has, you guys aren't winning. And his name was Grant.

General Grant. And he went in and he knocked the hell out of everyone. And you know the story. They said to Lincoln, you can't use him anymore. He's an alcoholic. And Lincoln said, I don't care if he's an alcoholic. Frankly, give me six or seven more just like him. He started to win. Grant really did. He had a serious problem.

Serious drinking problem. But, man, was he a good general. And he's finally being recognized as a great general. But Lincoln had almost developed a phobia, because he was having a hard time with a true great fighter and a great general, Robert E. Lee. But Grant figured it out, and Grant is a great general, and Grant came from right here. Ulysses S. Grant.

It's mess of an excerpt. A veritable vomiting of words. Hell just this bit:

It also gave you a general, who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I'm talking about, right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general.

At first glance it seems like the word 'incredible' is being attributed to Lee because Trump is so terrible at stringing coherent sentences together. He does go on to tie it to Grant, but not before calling Grant a drunk no less than 5 times.

But unlike some outlets they did issue the retraction once it was clarified to them.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

NBC had to retract their blatant idiocy/editing on the Trump confederate general quote.

The media lied and editing something out of context? WHY I NEVER.

They did issue a retraction yes, which was the correct thing to do.

But even watching to the entire clip with full context it's difficult to parse exactly what our president is saying. He DOES compliment Lee's prowess as a general before praising Grant as the guy who could beat Lee, but he does it so haphazardly. Trump is all over the place when he says anything.

And together we are taking back our country. We're returning the power back to the incredible American people. Ohio is the state that gave us a great president who hasn't been properly recognized, OK? William McKinley has not been properly recognized. What he did in terms of trade, in terms of war, but in terms of trade -- and I hate to say, in terms of being smart in tariffs, William McKinley has not been properly recognized.

But maybe someday he will. It also gave you a general, who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I'm talking about, right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn't beat Robert E. Lee. He was going crazy. I don't know if you know this story.

But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, I can't beat Robert E. Lee. And he had all of these generals. They look great. They were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There was only one problem. They didn't how the hell to win.

They didn't know how to fight. They didn't know how. And one day, it was looking really bad. And Lincoln just said, you -- hardly knew his name -- and they said, don't take him. He's got a drinking problem. And Lincoln said, I don't care what problem he has, you guys aren't winning. And his name was Grant.

General Grant. And he went in and he knocked the hell out of everyone. And you know the story. They said to Lincoln, you can't use him anymore. He's an alcoholic. And Lincoln said, I don't care if he's an alcoholic. Frankly, give me six or seven more just like him. He started to win. Grant really did. He had a serious problem.

Serious drinking problem. But, man, was he a good general. And he's finally being recognized as a great general. But Lincoln had almost developed a phobia, because he was having a hard time with a true great fighter and a great general, Robert E. Lee. But Grant figured it out, and Grant is a great general, and Grant came from right here. Ulysses S. Grant.

It's mess of an excerpt. A veritable vomiting of words. Hell just this bit:

It also gave you a general, who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I'm talking about, right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general.

At first glance it seems like the word 'incredible' is being attributed to Lee because Trump is so terrible at stringing coherent sentences together. He does go on to tie it to Grant, but not before calling Grant a drunk no less than 5 times.

But unlike some outlets they did issue the retraction once it was clarified to them.

Robert E Lee was an incredible general. Not even sure what the fuss would be if he had said that. I mean, even Abraham Lincoln thought that.
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Trump's speeches are just mystifying in how roundabout a manner they gradually get around to trying to maybe make a point
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That meaning of that Trump speech is really clear and simple. Robert E. Lee was a great general, and he was winning a lot. Abraham Lincoln needed to find a general who could beat him, and he finally found someone who was up to the task in Ulysses Grant. Both of them were great generals. And (implied) Lincoln was a good president for being willing to ignore the "experts" and change things up when things weren't working.
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I'm not sure if they lied or if they are literally not able to listen to a Trump speech and hear what is said. Like, they have so many narratives playing in their heads that they literally cannot hear the words Trump says. This shouldn't be this hard. The man uses what, second-grade level language?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Not the point, FD.

The media lied. Again.

They misunderstood his roundabout blathering.

They corrected said misunderstanding.

Issuing corrections is something that honest media outlets do.

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Or we could look at Trump's version of the civil war where he keeps plaques up at his golf courses commemorating civil war battles that did not occur.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_of_Blood_(monument)

Historians say no such event ever took place at this site. One local historian, Craig Swain, cited the killing of two soldiers by citizens in 1861 as the only Civil War event that occurred on the island.[3]

That was a prime site for river crossings. So, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot a lot of them. "How would they know that?" Mr. Trump asked when told that local historians had called his plaque a fiction. "Were they there?"

Trump said that "numerous historians" had told him the story of the River of Blood, though he later changed that to say the historians had spoken to "my people". Finally he said, "Write your story the way you want to write it. You don't have to talk to anybody. It doesn't make any difference. But many people were shot. It makes sense

So yeah. Our president lies a lot more than I am comfortable with. And he does it about things that are probably false.

So an incorrect story that was properly retracted is a lot more honest than Trump has proved to be.
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Yes, honest outlets correct mistakes

Trump, meanwhile, is probably the most prolific liar of the century
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Do you think you treated her with respect? Stahl asked.

I think so, yea, I did, the president said.

Stahl followed up: But you seem to be saying that she lied.

Im not going to get into it, Trump said. Because we won. It doesnt matter. We won.

Yup even if she was telling the truth it didn't matter to them.

This is why I'm perfectly fine with Jeff Flake getting punched in the face. "Winning" is what matters to Republicans.
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Trump is the most verifiably prolific liar of our time, so seeing his fanboys call out lies is the ultimate pot-kettle situation.
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TheRock1525 posted...

This is why I'm perfectly fine with Jeff Flake getting punched in the face. "Winning" is what matters to Republicans

This aint it, Rock.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Not the point, FD.

The media lied. Again.

They misunderstood his roundabout blathering.

They corrected said misunderstanding.

Issuing corrections is something that honest media outlets do.

.

Or we could look at Trump's version of the civil war where he keeps plaques up at his golf courses commemorating civil war battles that did not occur.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_of_Blood_(monument)

Historians say no such event ever took place at this site. One local historian, Craig Swain, cited the killing of two soldiers by citizens in 1861 as the only Civil War event that occurred on the island.[3]

That was a prime site for river crossings. So, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot a lot of them. "How would they know that?" Mr. Trump asked when told that local historians had called his plaque a fiction. "Were they there?"

Trump said that "numerous historians" had told him the story of the River of Blood, though he later changed that to say the historians had spoken to "my people". Finally he said, "Write your story the way you want to write it. You don't have to talk to anybody. It doesn't make any difference. But many people were shot. It makes sense

So yeah. Our president lies a lot more than I am comfortable with. And he does it about things that are probably false.

So an incorrect story that was properly retracted is a lot more honest than Trump has proved to be.

A lie is more honest than another lie. = /
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Jakyl25 posted...

Its not so much our dependence on their oil. We have a LOT of oil, and our transition to alternative fuels is at least off the ground.

We are more dependent on them to keep buying our weapons, IMO. And by we I mean military industrial lobbyists

Trump is just paranoid about doing anything to weaken the econony because his popularity would completely implode if on top of being Donald Trump he were presiding over a struggling economy.
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If two people say something untrue and only one of them owns up to the mistake when confronted, then yes one of them is much more honest than the other.
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pyresword posted...

If two people say something untrue and only one of them owns up to the mistake when confronted, then yes one of them is much more honest than the other.

So their lie became more honest. Interesting
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Supposedly Elizabeth Warren has proved she had a native American ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago in her family.
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Corrik posted...

So their lie became more honest. Interesting

...do you legitimately not know the difference between a mistake and a lie?
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Hes just an asshole that's all.
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It's interesting how they pretend Trump isn't a god awful public speaker. How they say his meanings are clear even as he rambles.
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Wow Corrik
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banananor posted...

Wow Corrik

Wow what
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So did Trump's meeting with Rosenstein ever actually happen?
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Corrik posted...

Supposedly Elizabeth Warren has proved she had a native American ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago in her family.

Should trump donate the million dollars or stand by the fact he never said what he did in fact say on national TV.
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Corrik posted...

pyresword posted...

If two people say something untrue and only one of them owns up to the mistake when confronted, then yes one of them is much more honest than the other.

So their lie became more honest. Interesting

To borrow your choice of words, it would be more accurate to the say that the other person's lie becomes more dishonest.

In both hypothetical cases, someone who has an obligation to tell the truth to the public is stating something that was untrue. I'm leaving open the possibility that this could be either due to malice or due to ignorance, but either way it's certainly not good.

However, the person who does not correct their mistake is telling a second lie in the process (by insisting they aren't wrong) and is also removing the much more benign possibility that they are not telling the truth due to ignorance.
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Trump is pulling another "it could have been a 400 pound hacker" with Jamal Khashoggi's assassination:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1051829605655556096

Absolutely disgusting
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https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051783184390664192?s=21

So shes running for president 100% now, right?
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Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051783184390664192?s=21

So shes running for president 100% now, right?

She always has been.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051783184390664192?s=21

So shes running for president 100% now, right?

1/1024 Native American lmfao

It is borderline psychotic that she is talking about this
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HarrietTubgirl posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051783184390664192?s=21

So shes running for president 100% now, right?

1/1024 Native American lmfao

It is borderline psychotic that she is talking about this

She had to throw it out there because she knows she is gonna get roasted in the election about it.
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Corrik posted...

HarrietTubgirl posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051783184390664192?s=21

So shes running for president 100% now, right?

1/1024 Native American lmfao

It is borderline psychotic that she is talking about this

She had to throw it out there because she knows she is gonna get roasted in the election about it.

Which is why this looks like shes 100% throwing her name in. Sure, she was like 99% before, but you dont put together a video like this unless you are planning to run for something else.

It basically was a point by point addressing of the major issues against her.
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Oh jesus Ulti please don't tell me you're a qanon person
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I am not even sure 10th generation Native American is even possible if I assume a generation is 30 years. She is how old? Like 65ish?

365 years agoish at 10 generations?

Would her ancestors even have been here by then? I mean, it is possible. But, it makes you wonder.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Hillary Clinton is 100% running again as of yesterday, with Michelle as the planned VP on the ticket.

@Mr_Lasastryke, archive this post.

You are an idiot. Hillary bowed out completely when she went against the woke generation and said just this week that Bill Clinton absolutely shouldn't have resigned for his sexual allegations
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https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html

On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African.

The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

So average European American has .18% native American

She has anywhere from 1.56% to .098% native American in here.

So, uh, she is basically an average European American? = /

I guess I need to update my minority status on applications.
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If you watch the full video she also talks to roughly 10 people that all say "no we didn't consider any thing like that she was one of the best law professors in the country at the time.

Which, again, is why that video looks like a "hey I'm running in 2020 please look at the following considerations" kind of video.
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Corrik posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html

On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African.

The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

So average European American has .18% native American

She has anywhere from 1.56% to .098% native American in here.

So, uh, she is basically an average European American? = /

I guess I need to update my minority status on applications.

Just read something that says TRUMP may have more Native DNA than she does.

This is hysterical.
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Jesus Warren way fucking stay on message for the mid terms.

The Democratic Party is so bad at politics.
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HarrietTubgirl posted...

Corrik posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html

On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African.

The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

So average European American has .18% native American

She has anywhere from 1.56% to .098% native American in here.

So, uh, she is basically an average European American? = /

I guess I need to update my minority status on applications.

Just read something that says TRUMP may have more Native DNA than she does.

This is hysterical.

That seems implausible. Didnt his grandparents immigrate here?
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