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10/11/18 9:51:05 PM
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Do you think Conservatives will use this as a sticking point to keep marijuana banned? - Results (7 votes)
Yes as it should be
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Yes but it SHOULDN'T be as marijuana is safe both medically and recreationally
57.14% (4 votes)
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No, conservatives know marijuana is safe and won't use any events like these to keep it banned
28.57% (2 votes)
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19 y/o Christina Diaz from California was arrested and charged after she drove while HIGH on CANNABIS that caused a hit and run and killed a man on Tuesday!!

She is charged with assault with a deadly weapon, a DUI with injury, hit and run and vehicular manslaughter.

She was driving a 2004 Toyota Camry at 630pm when she initially collided with a Dodge van.

She lost control of the vehicle and crossed into the centre median and into the eastbound lanes striking a mercedez-benz sedan.

45 y/o Andrey Tagintsez was killed at the scene and the people riding in the Dodge van suffered minor injuries

Police arrived at the scene and Christina hot tailed it from the scene before she was arrested.

Driving under the influence of marijuana is illegal as Police Chief Ronald Lawrence said "This tragedy is an unfortunate reminder of the dangers of drugged driving"

She is currently on $395,000 bail.

Do you think conservatives will use this a sticking point to KEEP recreational marijuana banned?

Christina -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/11/17/4960394-6265803-image-a-40_1539273653826.jpg

Andrey - Deceased

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/11/17/4960390-6265803-image-a-43_1539273706176.jpg
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HighOnSolar
10/11/18 9:52:38 PM
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bladegash
10/11/18 9:53:04 PM
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Hey, I know her... I sold pot to that girl before...
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/11/18 9:53:37 PM
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Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.
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ChainedRedone
10/11/18 9:54:03 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
Tagging to remind myself to step on my ant farm


He even states "this account only". Spineless.
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10/11/18 9:55:02 PM
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GregShmedley
10/11/18 9:55:03 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
Tagging to remind myself to step on my ant farm


He's a welcher. Don't even bother.
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TheKentster
10/11/18 9:55:31 PM
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.


Stoners use every excuse in the book to be under the influence.

This is really the most dangerous thing with legalizing marijuana. We've cracked down so much on drunk driving in recent years, and people are being responsible and taking Ubers instead. Yet stoners wake up in the morning and blaze up. They're high all day. They are a danger to everyone on the road.
rikasa
10/11/18 9:56:30 PM
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IDK how they're supposed to regulate driving high. How can you know?
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The Wheelman1
10/11/18 10:00:21 PM
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Knowing this double standard society, she'll only get a few months plus probation for killing a man.
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Middle hope
10/11/18 10:02:52 PM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Knowing this double standard society, she'll only get a few months plus probation for killing a man.

They will force the victims estate to pay her restitution for mental duress.
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bladegash
10/11/18 10:03:20 PM
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rikasa posted...
IDK how they're supposed to regulate driving high. How can you know?


I think there are saliva swab tests out there that work something like a breathalyzer
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Space_Man
10/11/18 10:05:00 PM
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Did she have a license? Are they gonna mention the opiates that may have been in her system? Those are the real questions.

Is she legal? Conservatives don't care about weed they'll only talk about it if she's illegal and say "heyo looky here. An illegal ALIEN hurt people."
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fenderbender321
10/11/18 10:06:11 PM
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.

I mean she could have caused the accident not high too.
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gmanthebest
10/11/18 10:08:17 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.

I mean she could have caused the accident not high too.

Sure, that could happen. But I'd say it's more likely to happen while a person is under the influence of drugs/alcohol.
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/11/18 10:08:47 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.

I mean she could have caused the accident not high too.


Yeah just like a drunk person might have done it sober too. Is that really a proper argument to defend someone who drove inebriated?
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0AbsoluteZero0
10/11/18 10:10:01 PM
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bladegash posted...
rikasa posted...
IDK how they're supposed to regulate driving high. How can you know?


I think there are saliva swab tests out there that work something like a breathalyzer

Even for things you cant necessarily do a drug test for, theres always the field sobriety test that can determine if a driver is too impaired to safely drive or not. They can certainly get a driver who is high on whatever for a DUI if they fail that test.
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TheKentster
10/11/18 10:10:33 PM
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Just driving home a bit ago, this dude just went straight when the turn arrow came on. I've never seen anyone do that before.

I've seen them start going, then realize they're morons and slam the brakes. This guy just powered on through. Luckily the person who was turning and had the right of way saw it and stopped so they didn't collide.

Wonder if the idiot was on weed and thought he just had that super clarity that the rest of us did not when we weren't moving with him.
Space_Man
10/11/18 10:11:37 PM
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.

I mean she could have caused the accident not high too.


Yeah just like a drunk person might have done it sober too. Is that really a proper argument to defend someone who drove inebriated?

Maybe she couldn't consent to getting behind the wheel.
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__B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/11/18 10:12:18 PM
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Space_Man posted...
__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
__B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Oddly enough, I've heard that despite these stories being common, that people claim they drive better on weed lol.

I mean she could have caused the accident not high too.


Yeah just like a drunk person might have done it sober too. Is that really a proper argument to defend someone who drove inebriated?

Maybe she couldn't consent to getting behind the wheel.


Lol
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 10:25:13 AM
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This is a scary and obviously sad situation. Sad that somebody lost their life. I don't know the details of everything, though. How high was the girl? Did it really affect the crash? It probably affected her decision to try and flee the scene, that's for sure.

There are millions of Americans who smoke weed every day. In the morning, afternoon, evening, before bed, etc. And they are driving every day, too, without any problems.

A friend of mine who smokes every day was saying to me the other night "You know, sometimes it scares me...like, I could just be going about my day normally, driving down the street, and some kid could just run out into the street and if I hit them and kill them, my entire life could be over just because I happened to have smoked weed a couple hours before."

And that is a scary thought. The general consensus is that driving while on weed isn't nearly as dangerous as driving while on alcohol. Like, a really really stoned driver is comparable to probably about a .04 BAC, which under the legal limit for alcohol. But, I don't advocate driving while you're really stoned. But the reality is this...if you're on medical marijuana, and you're even onlyh smoking 2 or 3 times a day....then you're going ot be stoned all day, and it seems like a lot of people are saying you should never drive at all if that's the case. Not sure if I agree with that.
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SaithSayer
10/12/18 10:35:19 AM
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Driving isn't fun regardless of if you have a buzz or not. Drinking, stoned, sober or otherwise....I'm always up for throwing the keys to someone else, provided they don't scare me with their driving.

I don't get the people who always say no when someone asks if they can drive unless it's a crazy expensive vehicle.
LooksLikeDarko
10/12/18 10:36:55 AM
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I'm for the legalization of weed but I really don't think people should be driving while high. This isn't a reason not to legalize it, but it is sad unfortunately
fenderbender321
10/12/18 11:00:07 AM
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LooksLikeDarko posted...
I'm for the legalization of weed but I really don't think people should be driving while high. This isn't a reason not to legalize it, but it is sad unfortunately


How much weed does one have to smoke for you to consider them high? How long should it be out of their system? I mean, one puff can make you stoned for half the day.
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bladegash
10/12/18 11:07:24 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
LooksLikeDarko posted...
I'm for the legalization of weed but I really don't think people should be driving while high. This isn't a reason not to legalize it, but it is sad unfortunately


How much weed does one have to smoke for you to consider them high? How long should it be out of their system? I mean, one puff can make you stoned for half the day.


Plz direct me to the place you buy that fire plz thnx
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 11:08:34 AM
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bladegash posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
LooksLikeDarko posted...
I'm for the legalization of weed but I really don't think people should be driving while high. This isn't a reason not to legalize it, but it is sad unfortunately


How much weed does one have to smoke for you to consider them high? How long should it be out of their system? I mean, one puff can make you stoned for half the day.


Plz direct me to the place you buy that fire plz thnx


I said it can. It depends on your tolerance level...greatly.
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thanosibe
10/12/18 11:12:39 AM
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LooksLikeDarko posted...
I'm for the legalization of weed but I really don't think people should be driving while high. This isn't a reason not to legalize it, but it is sad unfortunately
While I agree with the first part, I can't say I agree with the latter. As a drinker, if my drug of choice is legal and impairs my ability to drive, why should pot not be. The real responsibility lies with the user. Unfortunatly, as already mentioned in this thread a lot of potheads don't think they are imparied when high, and so accidents like this happen.

If pot is legalized federally, the best bet is to expunge the myth that pot is not impairing and treat is just like we do alcohol. With the same exact punishments as repeat drunk drivers get too.
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 11:29:08 AM
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How much pot impairs your driving COMPARED to how much alcohol impairs your driving is important to consider as well.

For example, one beer impairs your driving. Yet, it's perfectly legal to have 1, 2, even 3 beers (depending on weight, time, etc) or more before you are over the legal limit. That's because while it does impair your driving, it is such a small impairment that it wouldn't be right to arrest people for DUI and automatically fault them for any collisions they are involved in.

The same system should be incorporated for weed. How stoned are you? A little bit? Okay, well that's like having a little bit of alcohol, so you're fine. A shitload? Did you just get done smoking half an eighth? Then no, that's probably not good. Don't drive.

My fear is that there won't be any sort of simple test for law enforcement to employ to tell what level of stoned a driver currently is. You can't test THC levels because that stays in your system long after you've smoked and after the high has subsided. So I don't know what the answer is, but I really hope we don't come to a point where they can just charge people with DUI and put people automatically at fault for accidents just because they determined somebody smoked weed within the last day or 2.
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 11:30:15 AM
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thanosibe posted...
If pot is legalized federally, the best bet is to expunge the myth that pot is not impairing and treat is just like we do alcohol. With the same exact punishments as repeat drunk drivers get too.


How do we determine what a legal limit is for being stoned?
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TheKentster
10/12/18 11:35:30 AM
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Wow
LooksLikeDarko
10/12/18 11:36:19 AM
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BRO. How are you not banned yet
WMWMWMWMWMWMWMW
10/12/18 11:52:51 AM
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No difference than drunk driving.
fenderbender321
10/12/18 11:54:16 AM
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WMWMWMWMWMWMWMW posted...
No difference than drunk driving.


How much weed does somebody need to smoke to be equivalent to a drunk?
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GregShmedley
10/12/18 12:11:54 PM
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WMWMWMWMWMWMWMW posted...
No difference than drunk driving.


Only people who haven't smoked say this. Being high and being drunk aren't even comparable.
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thanosibe
10/12/18 12:12:42 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
thanosibe posted...
If pot is legalized federally, the best bet is to expunge the myth that pot is not impairing and treat is just like we do alcohol. With the same exact punishments as repeat drunk drivers get too.


How do we determine what a legal limit is for being stoned?
I have no idea. I've only once used the stuff. But I am sure there could be a way to come up with what would impair someone beyond a safe limit just like there is with alcohol. Though hopefully that solution is found quickly and/or before it, or if, it becomes federally legal.
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 12:16:02 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
WMWMWMWMWMWMWMW posted...
No difference than drunk driving.


Only people who haven't smoked say this. Being high and being drunk aren't even comparable.


This is my opinion as well for the most part.

There are an estimated 8 million adult americans who smoke pot often every day. They are out there driving in the mornings and afternoons and evenings. They are normal every day people that you wouldn't even know they were stoned for the most part.
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SaithSayer
10/12/18 12:26:19 PM
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Driving drunk IS worse but anyone that claims you can't get too high to drive has never been TRULY stoned.
bladegash
10/12/18 12:26:30 PM
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There's also different kinds of marijuana. THC is what gets you high and affects the mind more than the body, and CBD actually counteracts the high from THC and gives more of a body relaxation. Not that it's as polar opposite as it sounds. Indicas are grown for the CBD, they get you tired and sleepy and stuff, couchlock type of high. Sativas are the THC ones that are used to get you happy, giggly, even energetic.

But regardless of whether people think a certain type affects driving or not, there has to be a standard. And driving while high should have the same punishment as driving drunk. Drink responsibly, smoke responsibly.
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tote_all
10/12/18 12:27:35 PM
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Read 630pm as 630mph and thought what the fuck.
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eggcorn
10/12/18 12:33:30 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
after she drove while HIGH on CANNABIS that caused a hit and run

what?
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GregShmedley
10/12/18 12:35:03 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
WMWMWMWMWMWMWMW posted...
No difference than drunk driving.


Only people who haven't smoked say this. Being high and being drunk aren't even comparable.


This is my opinion as well for the most part.

There are an estimated 8 million adult americans who smoke pot often every day. They are out there driving in the mornings and afternoons and evenings. They are normal every day people that you wouldn't even know they were stoned for the most part.


Yeeeup. People smoke to and from work every day.

SaithSayer posted...
Driving drunk IS worse but anyone that claims you can't get too high to drive has never been TRULY stoned.


Yeah, no.
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Sativa_Rose
10/12/18 12:36:15 PM
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bladegash posted...
Indicas are grown for the CBD, they get you tired and sleepy and stuff, couchlock type of high. Sativas are the THC ones that are used to get you happy, giggly, even energetic.


Oh please, tell that to the 25%+ THC indicas I see all the time.

You are mistaken. High CBD strains and indicas are not the same thing. There are some strains that are high CBD strains, yes, but it's a separate thing than indica vs sativa.
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fenderbender321
10/12/18 12:39:16 PM
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I think it's also important to mention that just because people who drink and drive claim that they drive fine when drunk doesn't mean it's not true when people who smoke and drive claim they can drive just fine. One phenomenon doesn't have to automatically cross over to another. They are different substances.
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bladegash
10/12/18 12:39:25 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
bladegash posted...
Indicas are grown for the CBD, they get you tired and sleepy and stuff, couchlock type of high. Sativas are the THC ones that are used to get you happy, giggly, even energetic.


Oh please, tell that to the 25%+ THC indicas I see all the time.

You are mistaken. High CBD strains and indicas are not the same thing. There are some strains that are high CBD strains, yes, but it's a separate thing than indica vs sativa.


bruh i was just making a generalization. I mean i could have wrote a full on report about all the different facts and types of weed, but i was just trying to touch on the fact of the different types of high.
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Sativa_Rose
10/12/18 12:46:15 PM
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bladegash posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
bladegash posted...
Indicas are grown for the CBD, they get you tired and sleepy and stuff, couchlock type of high. Sativas are the THC ones that are used to get you happy, giggly, even energetic.


Oh please, tell that to the 25%+ THC indicas I see all the time.

You are mistaken. High CBD strains and indicas are not the same thing. There are some strains that are high CBD strains, yes, but it's a separate thing than indica vs sativa.


bruh i was just making a generalization. I mean i could have wrote a full on report about all the different facts and types of weed, but i was just trying to touch on the fact of the different types of high.


Okay, but seriously you shouldn't be saying that indicas = high CBD and low/no THC. It's just wrong tbh.
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Monolith1676
10/12/18 12:47:46 PM
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Literally happened a block from where I live.
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bladegash
10/12/18 12:51:06 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
bladegash posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
bladegash posted...
Indicas are grown for the CBD, they get you tired and sleepy and stuff, couchlock type of high. Sativas are the THC ones that are used to get you happy, giggly, even energetic.


Oh please, tell that to the 25%+ THC indicas I see all the time.

You are mistaken. High CBD strains and indicas are not the same thing. There are some strains that are high CBD strains, yes, but it's a separate thing than indica vs sativa.


bruh i was just making a generalization. I mean i could have wrote a full on report about all the different facts and types of weed, but i was just trying to touch on the fact of the different types of high.


Okay, but seriously you shouldn't be saying that indicas = high CBD and low/no THC. It's just wrong tbh.


Fair enough, that part was wrong
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GreatEvilEmpire
10/12/18 1:04:14 PM
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California is only starting to tackle the issue of DUI on weed. Regulations are coming.

Your mind is slower to react when high. Sometimes you space out and forget what happened in the last few seconds. People should never drive when they're high. It's just as bad as driving while drunk.
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happibivouac
10/12/18 1:04:35 PM
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Ban weed immediately.
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_Krave_
10/12/18 1:05:51 PM
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That sucks. That dude looked like a cool guy to have a beer with.
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