Poll of the Day > Do you smoke marijuana regularly?

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Mead posted...

Ah well that explains it. I've notice almost every weed smoker refuses to acknowledge the downsides. It really is fascinating.

There certainly are some. For example it can make it hard to focus, and in my opinion nobody should get behind the wheel of an automobile while using the stuff.

Overall though Id say its beneficial to someones health and well being

Overall weed has helped me more than it's hindered me. Cigs and vaping only burned money and hurt my health, but that nicotine was great.

wwinterj25 posted...

Nicotine cons:
- can be addictive

CAN? Like wtf! How can you say "can"?

It's one of the MOST ADDICTIVE DRUGS. I know the British government is big on keeping cannabis illegal but if this is the kind of propaganda they are feeding you guys, I'd say they want you smoking cigarettes. I guess the culling has begun.

wwinterj25 posted...

Weed cons:
- psychosis.

A disproven fallacy.

wwinterj25 posted...

Weed cons
- Can cause Apathy, lost productivity, deterioration in intellectual function

Only if you're already an apathetic, lazy, dumb dumb, you're right EXCESSIVE marijuana use isn't right for you, unless it's a strain that energizes you.

Yes, it has also been proven that marijuana doesn't cause loss of intellect. I swear you're reading a propaganda pamphlet from the 1970's. Are you going to quote "Reefer Madness" next?
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SunWuKung420 posted...

A disproven fallacy.

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/substance-use-disorder/cannabis-induced-psychosis-review

I've literally experienced CIP myself. And while I've smoked more than once before and after that without any such issue, it does happen. And both times it happened, no one else freaked out, so I don't think it was cut with anything, but I basically felt like I had taken acid and had a bad trip.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Yes, it has also been proven that marijuana doesn't cause loss of intellect

You're making his case for him - he said "loss of intellectual function", which it does (on a temporary basis, with longterm effects unclear), not "loss of intellect".

SunWuKung420 posted...

A disproven fallacy.

The link between weed and mental illness has been established numerous times over. Causality hasn't - and likely never will be - established (so it's unclear if, for instance, paranoid schizophrenics are more likely to smoke weed or if weed causes paranoid schizophrenia), but the correlation is there.
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darkknight109 posted...

The link between weed and mental illness has been established numerous times over. Causality hasn't - and likely never will be - established (so it's unclear if, for instance, paranoid schizophrenics are more likely to smoke weed or if weed causes paranoid schizophrenia), but the correlation is there.

It could be both too, depending on the individual.

Weed/THC is not for everyone. It always annoys me when people act like everyone just needs to get high, or say things like "it's good for you". It really is not good for everyone.
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kind9 posted...

Weed/THC is not for everyone. It always annoys me when people act like everyone just needs to get high, or say things like "it's good for you". It really is not good for everyone.

Almost nothing is good for everybody
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Mead posted...

kind9 posted...

Weed/THC is not for everyone. It always annoys me when people act like everyone just needs to get high, or say things like "it's good for you". It really is not good for everyone.

Almost nothing is good for everybody

Tell that to the people who want to argue about whether weed is good or bad for you. It affects people differently.
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kind9 posted...

Mead posted...

kind9 posted...

Weed/THC is not for everyone. It always annoys me when people act like everyone just needs to get high, or say things like "it's good for you". It really is not good for everyone.

Almost nothing is good for everybody

Tell that to the people who want to argue about whether weed is good or bad for you. It affects people differently.

Cant you tell them
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SunWuKung420 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm so happy Jay doesn't represent any sort of respectable person, with or without marijuana.

The only retort he has to the nicotine vs weed debate is "huuurrr durr you won't get sex" that's completely irreverent to the discussion.

For the record, nicotine is far worse for your body. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.

For the record the CDC says you're wrong. They have studies that prove nicotine is not addictive at doses multiple times higher than in tobacco products. Also you might like to know nicotine is in almost every fruit and vegetable you eat. It's a background chemical found almost everywhere..
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MannerSaurus posted...

And then she died, and now I'm drinking a lot again as I drown myself in violent depression.

My wife has a major surgery coming up and I'm super afraid of something going wrong and she doesn't wake back up. I told her if it does, I'm going to go off the fucking deep end. 7 DUI's in two weeks, jump through some windows, fist fight some police, etc...
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peanutt121 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm so happy Jay doesn't represent any sort of respectable person, with or without marijuana.

The only retort he has to the nicotine vs weed debate is "huuurrr durr you won't get sex" that's completely irreverent to the discussion.

For the record, nicotine is far worse for your body. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.

For the record the CDC says you're wrong. They have studies that prove nicotine is not addictive at doses multiple times higher than in tobacco products. Also you might like to know nicotine is in almost every fruit and vegetable you eat. It's a background chemical found almost everywhere..

What a load of pseudoscientific horseshit

Nicotine in edible plants is such a trace amount, around 0.00002% of the plant that it would never have an effect on you

Meanwhile dried tobacco can be up to 3% nicotine and a single cigarette has around 2mg of the drug. It is highly addictive in those amounts.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/tobacco-nicotine-e-cigarettes/nicotine-addictive
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Man if we're talking tobacco and nic I might as well throw out the safest way to consume both:

swedish snus. It isnt without its problems but aside from being delicious it also doesnt cause oral cancer. and you and the air around you dont smell like poop

Stop trying to make snus happen

Im not even entirely sure what hole it goes into
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upper lip.

If it was legalized here I would give marijuana a shot. Probably not smoking it though, I would prefer edibles. Also, and I may be wrong here, but some people have said it kills cancer. From what I understand it doesn't exactly kill cancer cells, instead it just inhibits the growth of more cancer cells. Again I might be wrong on that, more information may have come to light since I did my research a year or so ago.
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There are a ton of types of cancer, they require different kinds of treatment and to my knowledge cannabis cant cure anything, it can at best manage symptoms
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CaptainObvius posted...

I may be wrong here, but some people have said it kills cancer. From what I understand it doesn't exactly kill cancer cells, instead it just inhibits the growth of more cancer cells

*Hits blunt*

So if I continue smoking weed in my 20's and never stop, then I'll never get cancer!
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xjayguyx posted...

Maybe you should acknowledge your life is a joke

Maybe I should stop responding to your posts as you're adding nothing to the discussion yet here I am.

xjayguyx posted...

Overall weed has helped me more than it's hindered me. Cigs and vaping only burned money and hurt my health, but that nicotine was great.

Vaping is more expensive and harmful to your health then weed according to you? Now I know you're pulling stuff out of your arse. You can vape zero Nicotine thus no drug intake so how can that possibly be worse? It's certainly cheaper too. Granted I've no idea the price of weed but I can't image it being cheaper than E-Juice for the average user.

Mead posted...

Overall though Id say its beneficial to someones health and well being

It certainly can have some benefits. Even more for those who terminal illnesses.

SunWuKung420 posted...

CAN? Like wtf! How can you say "can"?

Simply because not everyone who smokes nicotine is a addict.

SunWuKung420 posted...

I know the British government is big on keeping cannabis illegal but if this is the kind of propaganda they are feeding you guys, I'd say they want you smoking cigarettes. I guess the culling has begun.

Point to me where I ever said or suggested weed shouldn't be legal. Making it legal and taxing it has always been my stance and I've also said I've no real issue with people who smoke it.

SunWuKung420 posted...

I swear you're reading a propaganda pamphlet from the 1970's.

I swear you lack basic reading skills as you're typing stuff that was never even said. This is what I'm talking about when I said some weed smokers refuse to admit the downside to a drug and thus start spewing shit when anything bad is said about it all while providing nothing that backs up their claims. I'm still waiting for some hard evidence to prove weed is better for you than nicotine.

Mead posted...

Nicotine in edible plants is such a trace amount, around 0.00002% of the plant that it would never have an effect on you

I'm glad you agree.
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Mead posted...

There are a ton of types of cancer, they require different kinds of treatment and to my knowledge cannabis cant cure anything, it can at best manage symptoms

CaptainObvius posted...

If it was legalized here I would give marijuana a shot. Probably not smoking it though, I would prefer edibles. Also, and I may be wrong here, but some people have said it kills cancer. From what I understand it doesn't exactly kill cancer cells, instead it just inhibits the growth of more cancer cells. Again I might be wrong on that, more information may have come to light since I did my research a year or so ago.

CBD promotes homeostasis within the cells. Cancer is abnormal cell growth. Therefore CBD helps to slow it down.

THC is effective for nausea and appetite, especially for those going through chemo.

Both are compounds within cannabis. Different strains have different ratios of each. Legalization allows people to pick strains that specifically benefit them, rather than buying an eighth of whatever off the street.

People who are against medicinal cannabis either don't know what they are talking about, like to see people suffer, think they know what's best for people, or most likely all of the above
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So cannabis doesn't cure cancer, but it is effective at holding it off and minimizing symptoms.

As an epileptic, CBD helps to raise my threshold for seizures, meaning that I'm less likely to have one. Things such as lack of sleep, medication, low blood sugar, etc can lower one's threshold and make a seizure likely. CBD makes you more 'normal'.

The thc helps with the side effects of my medication. My medication causes manic depression and nausea.
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CaptainObvius posted...

Also, and I may be wrong here, but some people have said it kills cancer.

They have and that's a ridiculous, anti-scientific abuse of facts on par with "Reefer Madness".

The source of this misconception, near as I can tell, is that there was a study back 20 odd years ago or so where scientists injected mice with various forms of cancerous tumours with THC. They found that the THC helped treat some of the tumours (notably while accelerating the growth of others, something that marijuana advocates never bother to mention). The story was published and at that point a bunch of internet guys with "420" in their usernames took that data and spun it into "Smoking weed cures cancer!"

Notably, injecting THC is very different than ingesting it by smoking it or eating it, inhibiting tumour growth is not "curing cancer", and these findings have not been tested on actual humans (unless there's been a subsequent study that I missed). What weed has been found to be good for is symptom management, particularly for patients undergoing certain forms of chemotherapy, since it dulls pain and boosts appetite (two things chemo patients are typically in need of).
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darkknight109 posted...

Notably, injecting THC is very different than ingesting it by smoking it or eating it

I just have to interject here, smoking ANYTHING is bad for your lungs, although weed is better than cigarette smoke. But otherwise, I have no issue with your post.

I smoke it through my ear....so not regularly i guess. It goes right to your brain that way though, waaaay better high!!
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Mead posted...

peanutt121 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm so happy Jay doesn't represent any sort of respectable person, with or without marijuana.

The only retort he has to the nicotine vs weed debate is "huuurrr durr you won't get sex" that's completely irreverent to the discussion.

For the record, nicotine is far worse for your body. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.

For the record the CDC says you're wrong. They have studies that prove nicotine is not addictive at doses multiple times higher than in tobacco products. Also you might like to know nicotine is in almost every fruit and vegetable you eat. It's a background chemical found almost everywhere..

What a load of pseudoscientific horseshit

Nicotine in edible plants is such a trace amount, around 0.00002% of the plant that it would never have an effect on you

Meanwhile dried tobacco can be up to 3% nicotine and a single cigarette has around 2mg of the drug. It is highly addictive in those amounts.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/tobacco-nicotine-e-cigarettes/nicotine-addictive

Did I say anything about how much, the fact remains it's in most of what you eat. Nicotine has been proven not to be addictive no matter how much you may wish it was. Addiction to cigarettes is due to other things added to them by big tobacco. Why is it you think they pay so much from the legal settlement to every state. Try not to mislead your fellow lemmings too much, it could be fatal.
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