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PiOverlord
10/11/18 10:30:25 PM
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ASlaveObeys
10/11/18 10:33:50 PM
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Don't we all?
xjayguyx
10/11/18 10:34:11 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
Don't we all?


No
ASlaveObeys
10/11/18 10:34:34 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...
Don't we all?


No

Shut up, I'm trying to make him feel better.
xjayguyx
10/11/18 10:34:48 PM
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PiOverlord posted...


Go ask out 100 people and I bet at least 1 will give you a shot.
xjayguyx
10/11/18 10:35:32 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
xjayguyx posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...
Don't we all?


No

Shut up, I'm trying to make him feel better.


You shut up with your incorrect reply.
ASlaveObeys
10/11/18 10:41:06 PM
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You planning on shooting the person you're with on your death bed?
Come on, son.
Zeus
10/11/18 10:41:31 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
Don't we all?


This, tbh. Unless a person is murdered because then they'd at least have their killer around when they die. Most of the time people seem to die with nobody around, especially because if somebody's there they can get them help. A family friend only survived a stroke because his daughter was home that day and he was able to get her attention. Otherwise he would have died alone. (Despite being married and having a daughter.)
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TheCyborgNinja
10/11/18 10:42:11 PM
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Neat.
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joemodda
10/11/18 10:53:50 PM
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Welcome to the club brother!
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Sonicplys
10/11/18 11:57:03 PM
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So?
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Nade Duck
10/12/18 12:06:02 AM
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on the bright side, almost nobody is really worth keeping around in that capacity anymore anyway so if anything you're doing yourself a favor.
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ImCallingYouOut
10/12/18 12:14:55 AM
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reminder tc is in a group with a user called somelikeithoth. this group has been known to troll, dox, and harass users and he willingly shows his support for this group
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PiOverlord
10/12/18 12:37:42 AM
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ImCallingYouOut posted...
reminder tc is in a group with a user called somelikeithoth. this group has been known to troll, dox, and harass users and he willingly shows his support for this group

Bro, who are you? You literally come into every one of my topics acting as if anyone takes you seriously.
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wwinterj25
10/12/18 12:40:41 AM
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Technically I haven't been forever alone in my life but I'll be as good as forever alone all my life when I die. Still I rest in the comfort of knowing that nothing I do in life matters because when I'm dead I'll cease to exist thus cease to care.
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Sarcasthma
10/12/18 10:21:13 AM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
You planning on shooting the person you're with on your death bed?
Come on, son.

Fucking got him.
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vocedelmorte
10/12/18 11:14:19 AM
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Whats the big deal, you gonna die anyway
gguirao
10/12/18 2:07:13 PM
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So am I.
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JimCarrysToe
10/12/18 3:15:03 PM
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gguirao posted...
So am I.

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Monopoman
10/12/18 3:18:41 PM
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Well to be fair even if you are married to someone when you die most couples don't die on the same day barring like a plane crash or something of that nature. So yeah good chance you die alone either way...
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Firewood18
10/12/18 3:38:49 PM
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Good. Wouldn't you rather be alone when the body relieves itself for the last time?
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wolfy42
10/12/18 4:10:17 PM
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I have bad news for you. You're not going to die at all. Most of us won't. Our brains will be uploaded and continue on after our bodies wear away. It's less then 20 years away, so unless you die by then, welcome to eternal consciousness.
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SunWuKung420
10/12/18 4:14:26 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I'm dead I'll cease to exist thus cease to care.


That's no reason to stop caring before you die.

Firewood18 posted...
Good. Wouldn't you rather be alone when the body relieves itself for the last time?


I have a special clear porta-potty ready for my final movement.

IT'LL BE GLORIOUS!
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xjayguyx
10/12/18 5:48:36 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Technically I haven't been forever alone in my life but I'll be as good as forever alone all my life when I die. Still I rest in the comfort of knowing that nothing I do in life matters because when I'm dead I'll cease to exist thus cease to care.


You sound like a winner
OhhhJa
10/12/18 5:53:48 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
I have bad news for you. You're not going to die at all. Most of us won't. Our brains will be uploaded and continue on after our bodies wear away. It's less then 20 years away, so unless you die by then, welcome to eternal consciousness.

I actually do believe this is a reality in our lifetimes and it will probably be a living hell
ParanoidObsessive
10/12/18 6:06:39 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I actually do believe this is a reality in our lifetimes

It almost certainly won't, but realistically speaking, even if it does happen, YOU will still be dead, even if a copy of your brain has been archived in a server somewhere and is continuing to operate with the delusion of still being "you".

Unless we go the more mundane route and find a way to preserve the human brain itself indefinitely in a jar full of nutrient fluids, then hook a USB cable directly into the severed stump of your spine and spoof nervous system signals in to give you the illusion of still having a body. But that level of technology is almost certainly farther off than just being able to make a fully digital copy of a brain.


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OhhhJa
10/12/18 6:11:55 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
OhhhJa posted...
I actually do believe this is a reality in our lifetimes

It almost certainly won't, but realistically speaking, even if it does happen, YOU will still be dead, even if a copy of your brain has been archived in a server somewhere and is continuing to operate with the delusion of still being "you".

Unless we go the more mundane route and find a way to preserve the human brain itself indefinitely in a jar full of nutrient fluids, then hook a USB cable directly into the severed stump of your spine and spoof nervous system signals in to give you the illusion of still having a body. But that level of technology is almost certainly farther off than just being able to make a fully digital copy of a brain.


Do you believe in the tech singularity and, if so, do you believe it is more than 50 years away?
Firewerx
10/12/18 6:25:26 PM
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Statistically most of us are likely to die in a hospital bed surrounded by uncaring strangers; imprisoned in our failing bodies, unable to communicate, our memories eroding, drifting in and out of consciousness just enough to feel terror as we sense ourselves sliding unstoppably into the darkness forever.

It's not dying alone you should be afraid of. It's spending your life alone.
wolfy42
10/12/18 6:32:40 PM
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The longer you live, the more you see that a persons memories and experiences are what defines them. As you get older, memories fade, and while some parts of your personality may remain, this is not always the case.

Often a person is a totally different person after 20 years, let alone 40 or 60 of them. You wouldn't even recognize a person by their personality, what they do, enjoy, how they act etc, if you knew them at 20 and then met them again at 60 (and didn't have physical characteristics to go on).

This means that once you can actually down load a human brain, all the experiences and memories, everything that you use to make decisions and to shape who you are, then you are in fact immortal. The main problem is that it's not much of a stretch to be able to alter such memories and experiences and it also removes any form of uniqueness between people as well.

You could shape a whole new conciousness this way, with memories and expeirences from many other people. So, if you don't believe in a soul, or any religious stuff outside of science, then yes, in the near future everyone could probably be immortal, there will be unlimited space for exploration and expanions (in VR) and in theory everyone could just inhabit robots at that point, needing only an energy source to survive....not only allowing expansion to the planets in our solar system, but to other solar systems as well.

All of that could easily happen before almost anyone on this board would die of old age at least, even me.
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IronicFool
10/12/18 6:40:38 PM
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I saw a study once that historically 80% of men and 40% of women die alone. That's most people.

So probably.
OhhhJa
10/12/18 6:41:00 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
The longer you live, the more you see that a persons memories and experiences are what defines them. As you get older, memories fade, and while some parts of your personality may remain, this is not always the case.

Often a person is a totally different person after 20 years, let alone 40 or 60 of them. You wouldn't even recognize a person by their personality, what they do, enjoy, how they act etc, if you knew them at 20 and then met them again at 60 (and didn't have physical characteristics to go on).

This means that once you can actually down load a human brain, all the experiences and memories, everything that you use to make decisions and to shape who you are, then you are in fact immortal. The main problem is that it's not much of a stretch to be able to alter such memories and experiences and it also removes any form of uniqueness between people as well.

You could shape a whole new conciousness this way, with memories and expeirences from many other people. So, if you don't believe in a soul, or any religious stuff outside of science, then yes, in the near future everyone could probably be immortal, there will be unlimited space for exploration and expanions (in VR) and in theory everyone could just inhabit robots at that point, needing only an energy source to survive....not only allowing expansion to the planets in our solar system, but to other solar systems as well.

All of that could easily happen before almost anyone on this board would die of old age at least, even me.

I agree with most of that except that there is validity to the point that PO makes about it just being a duplicate of you. I dont believe in a soul but I do believe that aside from you, as a person, being a collection of memories and experiences, you are also your brain. Without that, it would just be a duplicate of your brain.
IronicFool
10/12/18 6:43:43 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Without that, it would just be a duplicate of your brain.


We all have to die, but hey the dupe will live on at least.
ParanoidObsessive
10/12/18 6:59:09 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Do you believe in the tech singularity and, if so, do you believe it is more than 50 years away?

No, and even if I did, it wouldn't even remotely happen in the next 50 years.

It borders on mystical wishful thinking by people who are basically sublimating the same sort of psychology that led to religious eschatology years ago. It's the modern equivalent of the people in the 1950s who thought we'd all have jet packs and have space colonies by 2000.

Basically, I tend to think that people like Cory Doctorow are generally full of shit.


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ParanoidObsessive
10/12/18 7:12:48 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
The longer you live, the more you see that a persons memories and experiences are what defines them.

What defines a person is their personality. And while memories and experiences certainly play a role in forming personality, biochemistry plays an equally important role (and arguably, based on what we currently know, quite possibly a much more important role). While we've favored cognitive or consciousness models of thought over the years, most of our current understanding kind of underlines just how much of who we are is programmed in via millions of years of instincts and minute chemical balances in our brains. It's not that hard to mess with someone's biochemistry and radically alter their personality on a fundamental level.

When I write my thoughts in a journal, the journal doesn't magically become ME.



wolfy42 posted...
This means that once you can actually down load a human brain, all the experiences and memories, everything that you use to make decisions and to shape who you are, then you are in fact immortal.

A copy of a thing is not that thing. It is merely a copy of that thing.

If you hand me a book, and I copy every single word from that book down into a notebook, you can read the copy, gain the same context from the copy, and understand the meaning imparted by the original via the copy - but the copy still isn't the original. Even aside from differences stemming from different inks, paper, handwriting, and other physical factors, the two books take up entirely different positions in space-time and co-exist with each other. No one would ever say that the copy was the same thing as the original. Now extend that metaphor to multiple magnitudes of greater complexity and difference with regards to a functioning human mind in digital form.

(And that's completely ignoring the potential for transcription errors, which grows dramatically the more complex a given data chain becomes - and the human mind would effectively be the most complex data chain we've ever modeled).

Even the most effective science we can even imagine as humans (let alone actually implement) would do nothing more than create a digital echo of your brain. A phantom after-image left behind after YOU have gone. No matter how complex we can make it, or how well we can program it to function, it will be an entity unto itself. It will NOT be "you".

(And incidentally, this is pretty much the literal origin and tech backstory for AI in the Halo universe).

Even if our scientific understanding advanced to the point where we can literally craft robot bodies entirely out of meat and chemicals, and then decant digital memories into the body in a way that makes it absolutely indistinguishable from the original it was copied from, it still isn't YOU. It's just a copy of you.

The only real way to maintain continuity from one system to another in that sense is to assume the existence of souls and essentially create technology capable of literally capturing and housing souls, and then deliberately linking that original soul to the replicated memory imprint. That would maintain identity about as well as it could ever possibly be maintained, in any sense we actually understand the concept of identity at all.


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OhhhJa
10/12/18 7:16:19 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Do you believe in the tech singularity and, if so, do you believe it is more than 50 years away?

No, and even if I did, it wouldn't even remotely happen in the next 50 years.

It borders on mystical wishful thinking by people who are basically sublimating the same sort of psychology that led to religious eschatology years ago. It's the modern equivalent of the people in the 1950s who thought we'd all have jet packs and have space colonies by 2000.

Basically, I tend to think that people like Cory Doctorow are generally full of shit.


Eh I think people have a more rational idea these days about what is realistic as far as technological progress goes. Back in the 50s there was much less tech in general. People didnt really know anything about computers, much less the concept of A.I. Or maybe I'm just naive.

I do believe there will eventually come a point in time when A.I. is advanced enough to make technological advances without our help. A.I. only gets better as time goes on and I dont see why that progress would halt any time soon. We naturally model computers after our brain since its the only way we know how to think so I dont see why A.I. couldn't eventually learn and create like we do and, by extension, be much better at it than we are.

And since the rate of tech advancement is growing exponentially, I think many of these advancements will come much sooner than many people think
ParanoidObsessive
10/12/18 7:38:19 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
A.I. only gets better as time goes on and I dont see why that progress would halt any time soon.

Two reasons are pretty blatant:

1) Humans are incredibly paranoid about the idea of creating something that eventually turns on us. Even if we ever achieved a level of understanding where we COULD create fully sapient AI, odds are we'd go out of our way to NOT do it for decades, at the very least. And even if we ever did, we'd slam so many safeties and failsafes into it that it would be almost impossible to achieve any sort of self-reinforcing escalation.

(See also, the same reason why we'll likely never have Von Neumann machines or unrestricted nanotechnology even if they become possible, unless our species as a whole undergoes a radical paradigm shift - which isn't going to happen over decades, and likely not even over centuries.)

2) Diminishing returns are a thing, and at some point things start running up against concepts like the uncertainty principle. It's why, in spite of the fact that we've spent almost 50 years constantly inventing newer and newer hard drives that can hold more and more data, we're starting to push up against the limits of what's possible to compact into a small enough space. To counter it we're considering radically different means of storage (most of which are currently only hypothetical), but there's still a built-in wall to the constant improvements and refinements of development. In the same way, we may easily find that we reach a certain point beyond which we cannot proceed, for reasons that we don't even know enough to predict at our current level.

(In the same way that it's been suggested it would be literally impossible to create a perfect simulation of the entire universe because it would require more power than exists IN the universe to run it, it's entirely possible that we'll never be able to model fully sapient and free-willed AI on par with the human mind because we can never anything more complex than our own)

Most assumptions that AI development will not only continue apace but run up against no blockages of any kind, and ultimately reach a point of self-sufficiency, are effectively wishful thinking.

Which is not to say that it CAN'T happen that way, but there's also no guarantee that it ever will. And plenty of reasons to suggest that it won't.

It's also worth noting that, no matter how often American schools teach the idea, progress is not an infinitely increasing arc that always advances and improves. Modern phone technology shows us that we can keep shrinking the tech, but we may eventually reach a point where we don't WANT to make it go any smaller (because we go past the point of convenience in the opposite direction). In a similar vein, we've seen that advances to one technology may render other technologies obsolete - we basically stopped trying to improve pagers and fax machines because they've mostly been superceded by alternate tech. Having reached the moon, we basically shifted our entire space program to the point where we were literally no longer capable of reaching the moon without radical redevelopment.

And hell, we keep trying (and failing) to come up with new versions of 3D and VR every other decade or so, with tons of stutter-steps and complete re-evaluations of praxis between iterations. And the tech often being pushed before it's actually ready does more to set it back than it does to encourage it.

The fact that AI research exists at a certain point now doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically be more advanced in the future, or that it will advance in ways that are easy for us to predict today. Any number of other factors or outside circumstances could easily derail the entire projected arc and divert it down different paths.


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OhhhJa
10/12/18 7:58:16 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
1) Humans are incredibly paranoid about the idea of creating something that eventually turns on us. Even if we ever achieved a level of understanding where we COULD create fully sapient AI, odds are we'd go out of our way to NOT do it for decades, at the very least. And even if we ever did, we'd slam so many safeties and failsafes into it that it would be almost impossible to achieve any sort of self-reinforcing escalation.

I completely disagree with this point. Humans are inherently self destructive. We've continued down many paths throughout history even when we've known it would have negative consequences. It could be argued that we seemingly want to tear civilization down when things are going too well.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
(See also, the same reason why we'll likely never have Von Neumann machines or unrestricted nanotechnology even if they become possible, unless our species as a whole undergoes a radical paradigm shift - which isn't going to happen over decades, and likely not even over centuries.)

Billions have been spent on nanotechnology though... almost nothing is ever unrestricted but if history has taught me anything it's that if someone with power stands to benefit from it then it will likely eventually happen

ParanoidObsessive posted...
2) Diminishing returns are a thing, and at some point things start running up against concepts like the uncertainty principle. It's why, in spite of the fact that we've spent almost 50 years constantly inventing newer and newer hard drives that can hold more and more data, we're starting to push up against the limits of what's possible to compact into a small enough space. To counter it we're considering radically different means of storage (most of which are currently only hypothetical), but there's still a built-in wall to the constant improvements and refinements of development. In the same way, we may easily find that we reach a certain point beyond which we cannot proceed, for reasons that we don't even know enough to predict at our current level.

So what you're saying is that when we appear to hit a wall, we keep researching to further advancement...

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Most assumptions that AI development will not only continue apace but run up against no blockages of any kind, and ultimately reach a point of self-sufficiency, are effectively wishful thinking.

Which is not to say that it CAN'T happen that way, but there's also no guarantee that it ever will. And plenty of reasons to suggest that it won't.

I'd like to hear the reasons that suggest it wont because I'm not following on this point

ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's also worth noting that, no matter how often American schools teach the idea, progress is not an infinitely increasing arc that always advances and improves. Modern phone technology shows us that we can keep shrinking the tech, but we may eventually reach a point where we don't WANT to make it go any smaller (because we go past the point of convenience in the opposite direction). In a similar vein, we've seen that advances to one technology may render other technologies obsolete - we basically stopped trying to improve pagers and fax machines because they've mostly been superceded by alternate tech. Having reached the moon, we basically shifted our entire space program to the point where we were literally no longer capable of reaching the moon without radical redevelopment.

You're arguing that these are examples that counter the idea that tech advancement is ever increasing but these are all examples of us adapting when better tech became available. Yes, we stopped improving pagers and fax machines because we moved on to better tech
IronicFool
10/12/18 8:02:19 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I completely disagree with this point

You dare disagree with PO? Well, you're wrong.

That said, I didn't read either post so IDK
OhhhJa
10/12/18 8:05:53 PM
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Continued...

We don't focus our resources on going to the moon anymore because we dont need to. Plus, we've progressed to unmanned space missions since there's hardly any real reason to send people anyway. It's more about money than it is about not capable of doing it. We could easily go to the moon with current tech. But why spend the money and time on a pointless endeavor

ParanoidObsessive posted...
And hell, we keep trying (and failing) to come up with new versions of 3D and VR every other decade or so, with tons of stutter-steps and complete re-evaluations of praxis between iterations. And the tech often being pushed before it's actually ready does more to set it back than it does to encourage it.

I believe we're finally on the verge of VR being a permanent staple of mainstream society. I mean... VR porn is a thing now. Once porn becomes involved in the equation that's a game changer. VR has always been a joke until now. Trust me... it's not going away this time. I was just talking to a coworker today that was very enthusiastically telling me about how amazing VR porn is because you can fuck anyone you want lol
IronicFool
10/12/18 8:07:54 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I believe we're finally on the verge of VR being a permanent staple of mainstream society. I mean... VR porn is a thing now. Once porn becomes involved in the equation that's a game changer. VR has always been a joke until now. Trust me... it's not going away this time. I was just talking to a coworker today that was very enthusiastically telling me about how amazing VR porn is because you can fuck anyone you want lol

Okay, no joke? 3D and VR has advanced a lot in the last 20 years. Unless you think they won't be viable ever, you cannot deny we are on the cusp of it. Not quite there? Sure. But getting damn close? Absolutely.
Mead
10/12/18 9:01:31 PM
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wolfy42
10/12/18 11:28:58 PM
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Even if we had no technological advances at all, which is highly unlikely, what we already have over time would lead to extreme change. Even in such a case, we would see massive differences in the next 20 years. Storage devices are so small, and you can store so much information at this point that it is pretty much infinite, just takes time to make more. Since you can then access that information through (pretty much at this point) universal wireless internet, it is only a matter of time before more and more information and tools are available.

Meanwhile coding and programming continues to get easier and a larger and larger number of people are able to create programs etc (both because it's easier to do so now, and because more people are using computers and see a use for learning how to code etc).

VR is a thing, but...currently it takes far longer to program a VR game then a normal one. We do not even have a VR MMO yet...but trust me...there will be some soon, and eventually as many VR MMO's as there are normal ones right now. The VR tech we already have is enough, but there are tons of upgrades that just need cross integration of technology.

Meanwhile, I would suggest that technology has been advancing faster and faster, with huge changes in the last 2 decades and insane ones in the last 100 years compared to the past 200, let alone the 800 before that.

While it is certainly possible that we will hit some walls and progression will stop, we already know there are things that are attainable, but will just take time and effort to achieve, that will change the world.

Energy sources for instance are becoming more and more available for the common person to purchase. Solar power has made huge leaps already, and will probably continue to do so. We are already at the point where you can set up a whole household to run off solar if you have the money. There are wireless ways of transmitting energy as well already (on small scales inside homes etc), and more then likely we will reach a point where solar energy alone can power cities wirelessly eventually. It may be a combination of solar/nucleor or geothermic etc, some way to multiply the base solar energy we receive, along with huge capacitors to store the energy and ensure there is plenty on cloudy days etc, but I could see something along those lines happening before cold fusion became a thing at least.

Point is, the advancement happening faster and faster is based on a larger percentage of the population having access to technology/training etc, and unless we hit a dead end wall, where no more advancement is possible...it will continue to increase in speed. Considering what the last 50 years has brought us, and the increase in new tech being released each decade, the next 50.......if we survive that long...should be amazing.
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Questionmarktarius
10/12/18 11:38:26 PM
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If I get to plan it right, I'll either die in a volcano or on Mars. Preferably both.
Doctor Foxx
10/12/18 11:40:16 PM
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Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end
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Questionmarktarius
10/12/18 11:40:55 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end

Alternately, you can also have a bunch of cats.
Doctor Foxx
10/12/18 11:42:22 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end

Alternately, you can also have a bunch of cats.

They're little carnivores so that's one way to do it
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Questionmarktarius
10/12/18 11:48:13 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end

Alternately, you can also have a bunch of cats.

They're little carnivores so that's one way to do it

Your dog won't eat your corpse for some unknown reason. Your cat will chow down about half an hour after you stop breathing.
Doctor Foxx
10/12/18 11:50:35 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end

Alternately, you can also have a bunch of cats.

They're little carnivores so that's one way to do it

Your dog won't eat your corpse for some unknown reason. Your cat will chow down about half an hour after you stop breathing.

That's bull and I've personally dealt with some dogs that did just that...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/07/are-dogs-willing-to-eat-the-remains-of-their-masters.html

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/jmbx78/dogs-love-eating-human-faces
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Questionmarktarius
10/12/18 11:55:03 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
That's bull and I've personally dealt with some dogs that did just that...

Alright.
Point conceded.
wolfy42
10/13/18 12:40:36 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Live an isolated life and get carnivorous pets and you will at least be a feast in the end

Alternately, you can also have a bunch of cats.

They're little carnivores so that's one way to do it

Your dog won't eat your corpse for some unknown reason. Your cat will chow down about half an hour after you stop breathing.


I'm pretty sure cats nibble on your fingers/toes etc just to make sure your not dead yet actually. The waiting gets tiring for them sometimes.
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