Current Events > Police Release SHOCKING Video of a White Man SHOOTING at a 14 y/o Black Kid!!

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Jorep
10/12/18 10:42:22 AM
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Laserion
10/12/18 10:43:11 AM
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Then explain explicitly. What is a "thug"? Who can qualify for that noun, and who can't?
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VipaGTS
10/12/18 10:46:15 AM
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Laserion posted...
Then explain explicitly. What is a "thug"? Who can qualify for that noun, and who can't?

given that users posting history its obvious what he was trying to do by using that word. the word itself is fine, but like i said, given Medz's posting history its understandable that some people don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt here. that's all...
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 10:46:22 AM
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Laserion posted...
Then explain explicitly. What is a "thug"? Who can qualify for that noun, and who can't?

"thug" has been used only to describe black males in media for about a decade, and never white males
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Laserion
10/12/18 10:56:30 AM
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And how was it used before that decade, and who started using it in this racist way later? Why let them get away with it?
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 10:57:28 AM
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Laserion posted...
And how was it used before that decade, and who started using it in this racist way later? Why let them get away with it?

dude it's not my problem I don't care
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spanky1
10/12/18 11:11:47 AM
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This topic could have been so interesting, but instead it devolved into some boring conversation about the definition of thug and who should be called thug. CE is so disappointing sometimes.
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Laserion
10/12/18 11:14:34 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
dude it's not my problem I don't care

Then why do you care about people wanting to give it its former, more neutral meaning?
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BigSLM1993
10/12/18 11:15:47 AM
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This case should be open shut. The homeowner even lied initially about tripping and the gun firing. Freaking scumbag.
tremain07
10/12/18 11:16:09 AM
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spanky1 posted...
This topic could have been so interesting, but instead it devolved into some boring conversation about the definition of thug and who should be called thug. CE is so disappointing sometimes.

Then check out the video's comments, that'll scratch that itch.
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Garioshi
10/12/18 11:20:44 AM
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BuIlet_Wing posted...
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KStateKing17
10/12/18 11:21:17 AM
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^witnessing account suicide
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BeyondWalls
10/12/18 11:21:26 AM
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This is what happens when Trump drums up a xenophobic fear in the general population.
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LooksLikeDarko
10/12/18 11:22:47 AM
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He absolutely should face jail time. I don't know how anyone can say otherwise. Also, lol at them claiming not to be racist but the wife calling the kid "something" and saying she was afraid because he was black. Jesus Christ
tremain07
10/12/18 11:24:07 AM
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OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Not again! NOT AGAIN I can't believe again! What the fuck!?
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---Devin---
10/12/18 11:25:39 AM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
not trying to defend the guy, but it did look like that he pointed the gun upwards at the last second and fired (also showcased by repositioning the stock under his arm and showing the extreme recoil), like a warning shot (which is also stupid and dangerous) rather than shooting at a fleeing kids back. i get the feeling that he was not purposely trying to kill the kid, but scare him or atleast he had a change of heart at the last second.


who fires a warning shot while someone is running away lmao
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Twin3Turbo
10/12/18 11:32:03 AM
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---Devin--- posted...
Dark_Spiret posted...
not trying to defend the guy, but it did look like that he pointed the gun upwards at the last second and fired (also showcased by repositioning the stock under his arm and showing the extreme recoil), like a warning shot (which is also stupid and dangerous) rather than shooting at a fleeing kids back. i get the feeling that he was not purposely trying to kill the kid, but scare him or atleast he had a change of heart at the last second.


who fires a warning shot while someone is running away lmao

Also, I think its pretty evident that the kid was scared given he was, you know, running for his life.
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VipaGTS
10/12/18 11:39:28 AM
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---Devin--- posted...
Dark_Spiret posted...
not trying to defend the guy, but it did look like that he pointed the gun upwards at the last second and fired (also showcased by repositioning the stock under his arm and showing the extreme recoil), like a warning shot (which is also stupid and dangerous) rather than shooting at a fleeing kids back. i get the feeling that he was not purposely trying to kill the kid, but scare him or atleast he had a change of heart at the last second.


who fires a warning shot while someone is running away lmao

He had to fire a warning shot to scare all the other black kids hiding around the corner because his wife was scared..

...Or he's a racist idiot who shouldn't own a gun and needs to spend some time behind bars. Nothing about that video should make you want to give him any benefit of the doubt. "well, he kind of angled it up.."...who gives a fuck? that is still something he should not be doing with a gun.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 11:40:36 AM
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Laserion posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
dude it's not my problem I don't care

Then why do you care about people wanting to give it its former, more neutral meaning?

I was only saying his remark sounded hella racist
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El Mexicano Texano
10/12/18 11:41:40 AM
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Laserion posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
dude it's not my problem I don't care

Then why do you care about people wanting to give it its former, more neutral meaning?


He's a closet racist
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 11:42:12 AM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
Laserion posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
dude it's not my problem I don't care

Then why do you care about people wanting to give it its former, more neutral meaning?


He's a closet racist

I'm a closet
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El Mexicano Texano
10/12/18 11:43:42 AM
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spudger posted...
SuperMedz3 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
SuperMedz3 posted...

jesus christ dude

What?

You need medication sweetie


Why does he need medication? Were you assuming he was speaking about the kid instead of the home owner? I think you might be racist then....
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EmeralDragon23
10/12/18 11:49:24 AM
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I remember CE's usual suspects defending this when the news broke.

Someone even pulled up the map and made this whole argument as to why this poor kid was supposedly lying.

Someone was insisting that the kid should have remembered the route even though the map showed the route was confusing as hell and long.

The grounds to which people will go to make black people the bad guys amaze and sadden me.
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Dark_Spiret
10/12/18 11:49:28 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
...Or he's a racist idiot who shouldn't own a gun and needs to spend some time behind bars. Nothing about that video should make you want to give him any benefit of the doubt. "well, he kind of angled it up.."...who gives a fuck? that is still something he should not be doing with a gun.
and im not saying hes innocent. he IS probably a racist asshole who did something real stupid with a firearm and he should be punished accordingly, but that angle of the gun accounts for a LOT in an attempted murder case.
catboy0_0
10/12/18 11:51:29 AM
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EmeralDragon23 posted...
I remember CE's usual suspects defending this when the news broke.

Someone even pulled up the map and made this whole argument as to why this poor kid was supposedly lying.

Someone was insisting that the kid should have remembered the route even though the map showed the route was confusing as hell and long.

The grounds to which people will go to make black people the bad guys amaze and sadden me.

maybe the kid was provoking the poor racist asshole by intentionally going the wrong way to harass
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Dyinglegacy
10/12/18 11:56:06 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
I actually don't have anything of substance to say. I find it difficult to admit such thing, so thank you for enlightening me.


Anytime, bro.

he's not a criminal though


Well, the OP stated that he was arrested and charged. If convicted (which he should be), he will be a criminal. It still stands that the shooter is most likely a violent person, which fits the foremost qualifier for the textbook definition of thug. Racist thug (I.E racist violent person) should be appropriate for this scenario.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 12:02:31 PM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
I actually don't have anything of substance to say. I find it difficult to admit such thing, so thank you for enlightening me.


Anytime, bro.

he's not a criminal though


Well, the OP stated that he was arrested and charged. If convicted (which he should be), he will be a criminal. It still stands that the shooter is most likely a violent person, which fits the foremost qualifier for the textbook definition of thug. Racist thug (I.E racist violent person) should be appropriate for this scenario.

you're ignoring the racial connotation of how thug is used to describe black men who break the law
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Dyinglegacy
10/12/18 12:10:57 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
I actually don't have anything of substance to say. I find it difficult to admit such thing, so thank you for enlightening me.


Anytime, bro.

he's not a criminal though


Well, the OP stated that he was arrested and charged. If convicted (which he should be), he will be a criminal. It still stands that the shooter is most likely a violent person, which fits the foremost qualifier for the textbook definition of thug. Racist thug (I.E racist violent person) should be appropriate for this scenario.

you're ignoring the racial connotation of how thug is used to describe black men who break the law


Sometimes, it's good to not care about the media lol.
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SaithSayer
10/12/18 12:12:27 PM
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Denotation is more important. Ignoring connotations is how you keep them from taking over.

People could easily start saying gay to mean happy again. If it gradually builds momentum, it can return to the way it was. Same with thug or anything else that people say have changed.
VipaGTS
10/12/18 12:17:35 PM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
Sometimes, it's good to not care about the media lol.

the media is one thing...the user who first used the word ITT has a history of being a "subtle racist" as his gimmick and has used that word in the past to start arguments like this. My guess is he doesn't really care about this and came in just to use that word in a topic he knew it would be volatile in. if that wasn't his intent its his own fault for having a history of doing that. Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario.
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MelzezDoor
10/12/18 12:19:26 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
I saw a black person standing at my door and i screamed at him and i asked him what he was doing there. He tells me that he is going to school and at that poit he approaches the door, forward momentum, comes forward, opens the screen door and puts his hand on the door handle again as though he's coming into my house"

What are people's thoughts on this part? On a dry day if all I needed was information I wouldn't feel the need to open the screen door. There's obvious racism afoot but those do sound like awkward movements. Her screaming sounds justified but not the guy shooting.
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---Devin---
10/12/18 12:22:11 PM
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MelzezDoor posted...
mrduckbear posted...
I saw a black person standing at my door and i screamed at him and i asked him what he was doing there. He tells me that he is going to school and at that poit he approaches the door, forward momentum, comes forward, opens the screen door and puts his hand on the door handle again as though he's coming into my house"

What are people's thoughts on this part? On a dry day if all I needed was information I wouldn't feel the need to open the screen door. There's obvious racism afoot but those do sound like awkward movements. Her screaming sounds justified but not the guy shooting.


Show me at a point in the video where this happened.
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VipaGTS
10/12/18 12:23:13 PM
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Yea my thought on that is that i don't believe her based on the video or the mere sight of a "black person" caused her to not see things rationally.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 12:40:00 PM
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thank you @VipaGTS
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MelzezDoor
10/12/18 12:42:38 PM
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---Devin--- posted...
MelzezDoor posted...
mrduckbear posted...
I saw a black person standing at my door and i screamed at him and i asked him what he was doing there. He tells me that he is going to school and at that poit he approaches the door, forward momentum, comes forward, opens the screen door and puts his hand on the door handle again as though he's coming into my house"

What are people's thoughts on this part? On a dry day if all I needed was information I wouldn't feel the need to open the screen door. There's obvious racism afoot but those do sound like awkward movements. Her screaming sounds justified but not the guy shooting.


Show me at a point in the video where this happened.

prob @ around 30 secs? It's pretty dark in that corner if the vid so hard to say.
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MelzezDoor
10/12/18 12:46:09 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Yea my thought on that is that i don't believe her based on the video or the mere sight of a "black person" caused her to not see things rationally.

If she were rational when what should she have thought?
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VipaGTS
10/12/18 12:47:55 PM
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MelzezDoor posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Yea my thought on that is that i don't believe her based on the video or the mere sight of a "black person" caused her to not see things rationally.

If she were rational when what should she have thought?

well when she starts her statement with "I SAW A BLACK PERSON", instantly screams at them before they even do anything and uses that as a reason she was on edge, I'm not expecting much from her. Im also not giving her the benefit of the doubt.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 12:48:51 PM
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she literally gunned her husband up. he thought there was some scary black MAN
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---Devin---
10/12/18 1:41:11 PM
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the boy looks like a fucking geek.

you really trying to give this evil bitch and her husband benefit of the doubt?
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SuperMedz3
10/12/18 1:43:46 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
maybe the kid was provoking the poor racist asshole by intentionally going the wrong way to harass

that would make him an idiot. Still does not give the thug the right to shoot him
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Dyinglegacy
10/12/18 1:43:47 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
Sometimes, it's good to not care about the media lol.

the media is one thing...the user who first used the word ITT has a history of being a "subtle racist" as his gimmick and has used that word in the past to start arguments like this. My guess is he doesn't really care about this and came in just to use that word in a topic he knew it would be volatile in. if that wasn't his intent its his own fault for having a history of doing that. Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario.


I try not to hold peoples posting history against them. I've posted dumb shit. Some of it purposeful, some not.
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DezDroppedFreak
10/12/18 1:56:00 PM
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Literally looks like a kid

I dont see how anything he did could come off as having any malice or ill intent

Unless youre a racist piece of shit

Which they clearly are
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Devil_Katt_II
10/12/18 1:57:05 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Literally looks like a kid

I dont see how anything he did could come off as having any malice or ill intent

Unless youre a racist piece of shit

Which they clearly are

exactalamente. the wife is the instigater
VipaGTS
10/12/18 2:00:42 PM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
the wife is the instigater

be that as it may, the Husband lost that potential defense ("my wife made it seem like he was a threat!") the moment he shot at someone running away, aka, someone who is no longer a direct threat to the lives of either one of them. He isn't a responsible gun owner and probably an ignorant racist himself.
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MelzezDoor
10/12/18 2:19:40 PM
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Safe to say the husband was in the wrong. But maybe the wife was not being as shitty as I had thought. Half min vid the kid steps closer probably to open the door and shortly stepped back and left it ajar because she screamed. Dunno can't really see it well. For a screen door it's a legitimate reason to be on edge.
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apocalyptic_4
10/12/18 2:33:54 PM
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EmeralDragon23 posted...
I remember CE's usual suspects defending this when the news broke.

Someone even pulled up the map and made this whole argument as to why this poor kid was supposedly lying.

Someone was insisting that the kid should have remembered the route even though the map showed the route was confusing as hell and long.

The grounds to which people will go to make black people the bad guys amaze and sadden me.


The admiral is suspended so I doubt you'll read that stupidity again.
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Frosted_Midna
10/13/18 8:57:28 AM
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Dude is one helluva gun nut!
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Number090684
10/13/18 9:33:29 AM
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lol His foot didn't "slip" on the pavement causing him to fire in the wrong direction. He was clearly stationary adjusting his aim for a second or so before he fired. Clearly attempted murder. Hope he gets a long sentence.
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Number090684
10/13/18 9:36:02 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
SuperMedz3 posted...
deranged racist thug

no


No. He IS.
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VTBM
10/13/18 9:43:08 AM
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