Poll of the Day > Im playing FF7 again and I want to overlevel and "break" the game.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I realize it cannot be broken as much as FF8, but what I plan to do is grind for limit breaks in the mythril mines since you can get the kill quota since most enemy groups are 4-5 enemies routinely.

Gonna over level by grinding at that one part where you go back to junon and fight those robot things in that tunnel. Ive done that before.

Before I can do either of those things though I just plan on doing regular leveling but more of it.

Anything im missing early on?

There's a kill quota?
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yeah. for certain limit breaks you need to use the previous one X times, but for others you need to kill a certain number of enemies.

Revelation34 posted...

There's a kill quota?

So you know how most characters have two limits per level? For example...

Cloud
1-1: Braver
1-2 Cross Slash

2-1: Blade Beam
2-2: Climhazzard

3-1: Meteorain
3-2: Finishing Touch

4-1: Omnislash

So in most cases, to get to the 2nd limit of a level (such as Cross Slash), you just need to use the first limit break from that level (Braver) a certain number of times to unlock it. However, to unlock the next limit level (Blade Beam), you need to kill a certain number of enemies with that specific character.

Here it is in greater detail:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/197341-final-fantasy-vii/answers/263397-what-are-the-requirements-to-raise-limit-levels
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The best thing to do is to just rush (or glitch it) to get the Death Penalty weapon as early as possible since it quickly becomes the best weapon in the game since its damage infinitely rises until the game breaks
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explain

If on Ps4 theres an instant limit toggle that would shorten your grind for that note. It was supposedly a port from pc so i imagine that would have it as well but cant say personally.

Im not too knowledgable on VII sadly but early limits alone should make the game cake really. Meteorain, Doom of the living, Ungarmax...what would survive?
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nah man. I dont mind cheating to some degree but for a game like this i have to do it all "by hand" if you know what I mean.

I am on steam PC version. I cant seem to find it now but I im pretty sure it has those cheats on it, including one where you can turn your characters into 9999 lvl 99 badasses instantly.

Ive heard they did this for people who just want the story but dont want to play the game. fucking weak.

Even though difficulty in a turn based RPG is almost nil, it's always cool unlocking stuff like that. I'd do it someday if I complete my backlog.
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Hm? this game has hard bosses such as the Weapons...though I guess it just turns into a formula you execute to beat them, since there really isnt much wiggle room to do what you like with em.

argonautweakend posted...

explain

The Death Penalty weapon gains an attack point for every X monsters it kills... this is uncapped so after a few hours of grinding with it you'll be doing 9999 damage every shot.... and after like a day of grinding you'll start doing so much damage that you can even OHKO Ruby Weapon (Overflow damage is an autokill)
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The problem with grinding in FF7 is it only gives you more HP and MP and nothing else. Your stats never change. Which does make the game "easier" because more HP means less likely to die but it's nowhere near the level of kick-assery you can achieve in FF8.

The only way you're gonna actually get stronger and "break" the game is by leveling up materias to get stronger spells, unlock all your limit breaks and upgrading your equipment which you can't exactly do "earlier" than you're supposed to.

You can raise your stats with items, and you can find endless of them after they tries to destroy meteo with that huge nateria in the rocket.
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Hoxsamt posted...

The problem with grinding in FF7 is it only gives you more HP and MP and nothing else. Your stats never change.

Wut? A major part of FF7s leveling system is that the materia you have equipped define what stats increase on leveling.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Hoxsamt posted...

The problem with grinding in FF7 is it only gives you more HP and MP and nothing else. Your stats never change.

Wut? A major part of FF7s leveling system is that the materia you have equipped define what stats increase on leveling.

Nope; it's just your stats at the moment.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Hoxsamt posted...

The problem with grinding in FF7 is it only gives you more HP and MP and nothing else. Your stats never change.

Wut? A major part of FF7s leveling system is that the materia you have equipped define what stats increase on leveling.

Materia don't affect your level ups. They only give you a minor change on what you have right now...

Apparently I was still wrong though after looking up google turns out stats do go up... at complete random. I honestly never noticed.

Lokarin posted...

The best thing to do is to just rush (or glitch it) to get the Death Penalty weapon as early as possible since it quickly becomes the best weapon in the game since its damage infinitely rises until the game breaks

Does it literally break the game or do you mean in the sense that it just makes it very easy?
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Revelation34 posted...

Lokarin posted...

The best thing to do is to just rush (or glitch it) to get the Death Penalty weapon as early as possible since it quickly becomes the best weapon in the game since its damage infinitely rises until the game breaks

Does it literally break the game or do you mean in the sense that it just makes it very easy?

Both. Once your damage exceeds the integer limit you will overkill enemies (instant death regardless of their HP)... but you can keep on going until it underflows again.

Here's a good video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFYdr4X2Nqo" data-time="
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Lokarin posted...

argonautweakend posted...

explain

The Death Penalty weapon gains an attack point for every X monsters it kills... this is uncapped so after a few hours of grinding with it you'll be doing 9999 damage every shot.... and after like a day of grinding you'll start doing so much damage that you can even OHKO Ruby Weapon (Overflow damage is an autokill)

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that...

- There is a cap on the number of kills, 65,535 to be exact
- Ruby Weapon is the only one you cannot overflow the damage on, owing to his high Defense, even if you boost it with Hero Drinks and such

I'll watch that video you linked for a refresher, but I'm pretty sure those are what's confirmed.
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Yeah, Ruby is the only one that cant be overflown.
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Ah, if you want to grind for limits, use the fury status via hypers to speed up the process.

Maxing an All materia and selling it will set you up for most of the game in terms of finances.

You can just stack passive counter materia on characters to make them counter over and over and over again.

Oh, one thing you can do is run from battles a whole bunch in order to make it so one of the enemy skill spells will hit your character with just the right amount to set their HP to 7777.
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Another good way to quickly gain limits is to take advantage of Aeris 2-2 limit, Fury Brand. It maxes out her allies limit meters, so you can use her allies limits, then use Fury Brand and have another two limits. Really speeds things up.
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right, can't overflow Ruby - I was just going from memory
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Wouldn't the fight still be easy though?
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