Poll of the Day > Michigan Woman is DENIED MEDICATION from a PHARMACIST because he's CHRISTIAN!!!

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35 y/o Rachel Peterson from Michigan was left devastated after a pharamcist REFUSED to give her prescription to complete a miscarriage because of his RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!

She was greiving the loss of her twins when she was pregnant in July and opted to take prescribed misoprostol to rid of her uterus of fetal tissue and prevent a dangerous infection.

She and her husband went to Meijer pharmacy in Petoskey where a pharamcist denied her the medication.

The man said he was a GOOD CATHOLIC MALE and that he couldn't in good conscience give me this medication because it's used for abortions and he could not prescribe that.

She said "When i divulged to him that the fetus was no longer viable and that i needed to progress the situation further, well that's your word and i dont' believ eyou and he refused to fill it"

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

They were on a weekend getaway attempting to cope with the loss of their twins and ended their trip and went back home where they went to another Meijer location

A Meijier spokeswoman released a statement writing "We recognize the right of aphramcist to abstain from filling a prescription based on his or her religions beliefs but the pharmacist is required to have another Meijer pharmacist fill the prescription or, if no other pharmacist is available at that time to transfer the script to another pharamacy convenient to the customer"

They didn't state if that employee will be disciplined as well.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan got word of this and sent a letter writing "I think it's very clear in this case that had Rachel been a man seeking this exact same medication for stomach ulcers, she wouldn't have had been t urned away for the same reason."

This had been their lowest point in their life as they been trying to have a c hild and wered elated to hear they had twins but because of complications and at 9 weeks pregnant, she miscarried one child..a few weeks later she miscarried the other child from a bicornuate uterus.

Either she could wait for the miscarriage to complete naturally, take medication to move along the miscarriage or surgically empty the remaining fetal tissue..they decided with the fifrst option with the hopes she would miscarriage naturally. But because it took longer than expected, she was prescribed misoprostol to avoid the risk of a fatal infection.

Her mother said that her daughter was going through the worst in her life and judging her and making her feel bad about it and now she's coming forward with her story so others know what their rights are when retrieving medication.

Do you support businesses denying service to people for "religious" reasons?.

Rachel and her husband -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/21/5140154-6287647-image-a-2_1539808529989.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/21/5140150-6287647-image-m-10_1539808680743.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/17/21/5140152-6287647-image-m-7_1539808615777.jpg

Meijer -

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Full Throttle posted...

35 y/o Rachel Peterson from Michigan was left devastated after a pharamcist REFUSED to give her prescription to complete a miscarriage because of his RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.
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Don't become a pharmacist? There are tons of jobs where you don't have to serve the atheist and satanic public.
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I say the job comes first, do it. You're screwing with someone's health here. The story about the cake from a while ago was stupid too. It's a dessert, who cares what it says. Save your beliefs for later.

DPsx7 posted...

I say the job comes first, do it. You're screwing with someone's health here. The story about the cake from a while ago was stupid too. It's a dessert, who cares what it says. Save your beliefs for later.

lol The American way, "Country, Employer, Religion, in descending order."
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Just shut up and fetch my pills.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

Don't become a pharmacist? There are tons of jobs where you don't have to serve the atheist and satanic public.

He became a pharmacist to save lives, not to take them. There's the ethical implications in addition to the religious ones when prescribing abortion meds.

DPsx7 posted...

I say the job comes first, do it. You're screwing with someone's health here. The story about the cake from a while ago was stupid too. It's a dessert, who cares what it says. Save your beliefs for later.

For some reason forcing people to violate their beliefs is a big deal to them.
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Where do I find a satanic pharmacist

Zeus posted...

He became a pharmacist to save lives, not to take them. There's the ethical implications in addition to the religious ones when prescribing abortion meds.

Interesting. I bet he refuses to fill Viagra prescriptions because he's too busy saving lives. I bet he doesn't ring up milk and candy from the shelves because he's too busy saving lives. I bet he religiously objects to ring up condoms as well. Oh, and if you're not married, good luck having him ring up that sexual lubricant for you.

If he really wanted to save lives, then he needs to fill the prescriptions that doctors prescribe. You know, the ones that are medically trained, have seen, examined, and diagnosed the patients bringing in those prescriptions?

This pharmacist isn't a doctor, isn't her doctor, hasn't seen this woman, and hasn't diagnosed her to determine this medication wasn't "life saving" or even if its use was against his beliefs. If you read the article, the woman already lost her pregnancy and needed this medication to remove a dead fetus from her body. Sounds like an extremely important medical issue to me.
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Zeus posted...

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.

Full Throttle posted...

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

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What the actual fuck people defending this shit

Eh generally dont care. The cake was whatever. Medicine is a tad more important than some luxury cake though and you probably shouldnt be able to refuse solely because of your dear magic juju overlord.

Regardless he should definitely be fired though considering hes refusing to do what hes being paid for. Even with their little clause that allowed refusal to an extent he still violated it apparently.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I say the job comes first, do it. You're screwing with someone's health here. The story about the cake from a while ago was stupid too. It's a dessert, who cares what it says. Save your beliefs for later.

lol The American way, "Country, Employer, Religion, in descending order."

By withholding services then you're pushing your beliefs on others. Or play the discrimination card if you're choosing who to serve or not.

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

Imagine the pharmacist was Muslim
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Andromicus posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

Imagine the pharmacist was Muslim

I dunno what youre trying to say

Full Throttle posted...

and he could not prescribe that.

Pharmacists don't write the prescriptions.

Full Throttle posted...

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

It's not up to the pharmacist to transfer the prescription. Call the doctor and have them issue it to another location.
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fire his ass. if you cant do your job, dont.

Zeus posted...

Full Throttle posted...

35 y/o Rachel Peterson from Michigan was left devastated after a pharamcist REFUSED to give her prescription to complete a miscarriage because of his RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.

This is low even for you.

He refused to transfer the prescription. This is a person in a role of responsibility putting someones life in danger.

if youre talking a lot of things id say yeah go find somebody else.

in this case, even if she finds somebody else(i mean, assuming he didnt mess up the script she can take it and go anywhere, depending on insurance) that means this guy who is clearly unfit for his job still has it.
if your personal beliefs get in the way of your job of dispensing medicine, you dont deserve it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

To quote Donald Glover, "This is America."

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

It's fine to kill people after they are born. It's not ok to kill people before they are people.

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

Golden Road posted...

Zeus posted...

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.

Full Throttle posted...

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

Facts have never troubled Zeus before, why would they now?

streamofthesky posted...

Golden Road posted...

Zeus posted...

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.

Full Throttle posted...

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

Facts have never troubled Zeus before, why would they now?

It's not up to the pharmacist, though. I don't know why the woman in the story thought the pharmacist was responsible for that. The procedure is to call the doctor's office that wrote the prescription, then tell them you ran into a problem with one pharmacy and need the prescription sent to a different one.
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

It's not up to the pharmacist, though. I don't know why the woman in the story thought the pharmacist was responsible for that. The procedure is to call the doctor's office that wrote the prescription, then tell them you ran into a problem with one pharmacy and need the prescription sent to a different one.

"Christina Fecher, a spokeswoman for Meijer, told the Tribune that the company "works hard to support all of our pharmacy customers' needs, but declined to comment on Petersons case specifically.

She added that Meijer recognizes the rights of pharmacists to abstain from filling a prescription, but that they are required to transfer the prescription to another pharmacy or have another Meijer pharmacist fill it. Peterson says that her pharmacist did not do either."

But the actual "procedure" is to fill customers prescriptions when they bring them in because Michigan doesn't even have a law that allows pharmacists to discriminate on the grounds of religious beliefs.
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Golden Road posted...

Zeus posted...

Go to a different pharmacist? There are tons of atheist and satanic ones.

Full Throttle posted...

She then asked him to transfer it to another location but again, he refused.

Facts have never troubled Zeus before, why would they now?

It's not up to the pharmacist, though. I don't know why the woman in the story thought the pharmacist was responsible for that. The procedure is to call the doctor's office that wrote the prescription, then tell them you ran into a problem with one pharmacy and need the prescription sent to a different one.

It can actually be really tough. Especially for controlled substances, I'm not sure what level of control this is under but I have had issues with anti-depressants before where my usual pharmacy just wasn't able to get my medicine in stock and yet still had accepted the prescription and was taking their sweet time transferring it. Instead of giving another prescription my doctors office actually called the pharmacy to find out what was going on and it finally got fixed.

But you know go ahead and thing things are so simple when you're wrong and it's not a problem for monsters like this to hold jobs they have no business being in.

I'm just gonna go ahead and repost my thoughts on this topic.

LanHikari10 posted...

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that pharmacist's action. Our legal right to refuse to fill shouldn't be a platform for you to shove your religious beliefs down peoples' throats. It should be used in the best interest of the patient or to protect your own license from stupid drug abusers.

I cannot fathom why he went on to ensure she couldn't get it filled by refusing to transfer or not allowing a coworker to fill it. He already was pushing his limits by refusing to fill, that was just asinine to go that much further.

If he was that adamant about not believing the patient, he should've called the doctor's office to verify the story (although I'm sure they wouldn't have been thrilled with a call like that).

Overall, that pharmacist dropped the ball in every respect and I do not agree nor respect his decision in any capacity. As I said, we're not here to shove beliefs down our patients' throats. We're here to keep them healthy.

The pharmacist should have either let someone else fill it, get it transferred, or at the very least given the prescription back to the customer so they could choose a new pharmacy. That was 100% out of line.
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What are you supposed to use your right to refuse to fill for, @LanHikari10

If the medication is a danger to the patient's life is the main reason. Whether that be an interaction or inappropriate medicine. Narcotics and other controlled substance abuse can be a good reason.

As an example, we have access to data that shows if a person is shopping around pharmacies and doctors and using cash instead of insurance to "trick" us. So if we find someone whose data reveals they have been filling several Oxycodones and Xanaxs in the past week at multiple pharmacies from multiple doctors, that would be a good time to refuse to fill a prescription.
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Full Throttle posted...

Do you support businesses refusing service to people for 'religious' reasons?

Nope. I'd serve anyone regardless of race, religion, sexuality and so on on their end and my own unless been instructed otherwise such as them being a known addict or something.
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Lol @ one of America's founding principles being separation of religion and state.

That is going fantastic.
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Ah, I remember this instance. Women have died from that sort of negligence.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Lol @ one of America's founding principles being separation of religion and state.

That is going fantastic.

There's been a concerted effort pretty much from the start of the country's founding to undermine that, starting with the effort to get tax exempt status and moving on from there.
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I see why he did it, but I'll think less of him if he tries to claim religious freedom to get out of trouble for it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

What the actual fuck people defending this shit

To be fair, it seems to just be Zeus and Kyuubi. Zeus' schtick is to play devil's advocate for even the most indefensible of people (anyone remember that topic where he spent several days saying that hit-and-run drivers aren't horrible people?), and Kyuubi's, well, Kyuubi. I'm not even surprised.
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