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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:35:18 PM #52: |
gp1829 posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...While the death penalty does significantly deter criminals, I think sociopathic people such as seriel killers arent effected It's not dumb. You are saying it doesn't deter criminals. I gave you a hypothetical that you know your answer is that you wouldn't Jay walk this proving that it does in fact deter criminals. If you think the same thing doesn't happen on a bigger scale, you are delusional. You literally know logic proved my point because we both know neither you or asagi would Jay walk if that was the punishment. The conclusion this hypothetical proves is that capital punishment deters crime --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 10/27/18 11:38:18 PM #53: |
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...While the death penalty does significantly deter criminals, I think sociopathic people such as seriel killers arent effected Post the stats. You have no understanding of logic. You had to take it to an absurd crime to prove your point. Would someone steal to feed their family if the penalty was death? Maybe. Now quit arguing nonsense and post the stats that prove it's a deterrent like you originally argued. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmatureContent 10/27/18 11:39:06 PM #54: |
Would you jaywalk if the punishment was life in prison?
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:41:53 PM #55: |
gp1829 posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...While the death penalty does significantly deter criminals, I think sociopathic people such as seriel killers arent effected You can Google the stats. I can post them and I'm sure you will find something to nitpick which is why I gave you an easier answer. One you can't not pick: simple logic. You literally proved with your own answer that capital punishment deters crime by saying you wouldn't Jay walk. But if you still need the actual stats because, for some Reason, you don't trust your own logic, I'm happy to post them after this episode of castlevania --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 10/27/18 11:44:24 PM #56: |
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...While the death penalty does significantly deter criminals, I think sociopathic people such as seriel killers arent effected Post 54 as well as looking at the actual crime and not the absurd jay walking example destroy your attempt at logic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:48:07 PM #57: |
Except they don't. You call it absurd because you simply don't like to admit defeat and admit what it really is: proof
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:49:05 PM #58: |
Oh, and the flaw in logic in post 54 is that crimes are more worth risking if the only punishment is being taken care of your entire life outside freedom.
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:50:43 PM #59: |
Here is the final nail in your argument, the stats and information you requested:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/11/AR2007061100406.html?noredirect=on --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmatureContent 10/27/18 11:51:11 PM #60: |
Personally, I would much rather be executed than be sentenced to life in prison.
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gp1829 10/27/18 11:55:47 PM #61: |
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Here is the final nail in your argument, the stats and information you requested: https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theconversation.com/amp/theres-no-evidence-that-death-penalty-is-a-deterrent-against-crime-43227?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Ftheres-no-evidence-that-death-penalty-is-a-deterrent-against-crime-43227 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asagi_mode_gone 10/27/18 11:56:48 PM #62: |
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
asagi_mode_gone posted...As people are prone to ignore laws and rules that seem superfluous, it won't be deterrent enough to make people stop it, and in so doing there will be dozens of people unjustly killed by such an asinine law. it won't be deterrent enough to make people stop it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 10/27/18 11:57:29 PM #63: |
20 of the top 25 states that lead the US in murders have the death penalty.
11 of the 25 States with the lowest murder rates have it. How's it deterring crime? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:57:54 PM #64: |
gp1829 posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...Here is the final nail in your argument, the stats and information you requested: Ok, so we both have stats. I already expected that. Which is why I suggested you merely use common sense to give you the obvious answer hence an easy example for you. The only crime that the punishment might not phase is drug charges and that's only because addicts gonna addict --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/27/18 11:59:02 PM #66: |
asagi_mode_gone posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...asagi_mode_gone posted...As people are prone to ignore laws and rules that seem superfluous, it won't be deterrent enough to make people stop it, and in so doing there will be dozens of people unjustly killed by such an asinine law. It's not supposed to. It would significantly lower it which is the point. gp1829 posted... 20 of the top 25 states that lead the US in murders have the death penalty. My link covered that already. --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 10/27/18 11:59:19 PM #67: |
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
gp1829 posted...B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...Here is the final nail in your argument, the stats and information you requested: 20 of the top 25 states that lead the US in murders have the death penalty. 11 of the 25 States with the lowest murder rates have it. How's it deterring crime? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ 10/28/18 12:01:19 AM #68: |
2003 study he co-authored, and a 2006 study that re-examined the data, found that each execution results in five fewer homicides, and commuting a death sentence means five more homicides. "The results are robust, they don't really go away," he said. "I oppose the death penalty. But my results show that the death penalty (deters) _ what am I going to do, hide them?"
You are looking at it wrong. It isn't about which states have highest death counts. That's a flawed way of thinking. The question is "does it lower the death rate in those states" in which the answer is a resounding yes --- Green Bay Packers: 3-2-1 Go Pack Go! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 10/28/18 12:02:04 AM #69: |
DanHarenChamp posted...
This world has alot of problems. Well, it's had alot of problems for years, really. Well you could even go back centuries even, its had alot of problems. is that real? I almost don't want to know --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 10/28/18 12:16:55 AM #70: |
ThyCorndog posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...This world has alot of problems. Well, it's had alot of problems for years, really. Well you could even go back centuries even, its had alot of problems. Lol it is ... Copied to Clipboard!
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