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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:44:37 PM #1: |
If someone commits a crime and is sentenced to prison, is it wrong to force them to work as well?
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Antifar 11/07/18 11:45:21 PM #2: |
Yes
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shnangyboos 11/07/18 11:45:53 PM #3: |
If someone is profiting from it.
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boxington 11/07/18 11:45:57 PM #5: |
Antifar posted...
Yes --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 11/07/18 11:46:38 PM #6: |
You asking was it wrong to start arresting black people over petty crimes after slavery ended as a way to continue slavery? Yes...yes it was
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:46:57 PM #7: |
shnangyboos posted...
If someone is profiting from it. Lets just say the prison is government run, not for profit --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/07/18 11:47:25 PM #8: |
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:47:34 PM #9: |
Lost_All_Senses posted...
You asking was it wrong to start arresting black people over petty crimes after slavery ended as a way to continue slavery? Yes...yes it was Your username is relevant. Nobody asked this. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 11/07/18 11:48:38 PM #11: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...You asking was it wrong to start arresting black people over petty crimes after slavery ended as a way to continue slavery? Yes...yes it was How does over explaining something make my name relevant? --- ....I thought it was funny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:48:59 PM #12: |
Funkydog posted...
What often amounts to slavery is wrong, yes. I mean yeah, its slavery. But there is an exception made for criminals if you read the ammendments or wherever it was written --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:49:39 PM #13: |
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Lost_All_Senses posted... Your username is still relevant --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 11/07/18 11:51:09 PM #14: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...Rika_Furude posted...Lost_All_Senses posted... Well so is yours. Cause you sir are being pretty rude. --- ....I thought it was funny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 11/07/18 11:52:11 PM #15: |
shnangyboos posted...
If someone is profiting from it. this basically. forcing then to work to improve their living conditions or make things for themselves to use is fine but not if someone else profits, that is slavery --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Schwarber 11/07/18 11:52:39 PM #16: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Funkydog posted...What often amounts to slavery is wrong, yes. Oh, do tell. Which "ammendments" are those? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pitlord_Special 11/07/18 11:52:42 PM #17: |
Forcing as in violence or withholding the necessities of life if they don't do work is wrong.
but having them work for perks/rewards or time off their sentence is fine. --- Posted from my iPhone 8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:54:43 PM #18: |
Schwarber posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Funkydog posted... 13th amendment? I just did a quick google search so you should have as well --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:56:05 PM #19: |
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Lost_All_Senses posted... If you still cant see (due to your lost senses), its you making false accusations. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/07/18 11:56:15 PM #20: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Funkydog posted...What often amounts to slavery is wrong, yes. Couldn't care less about whatever amendments America has. Slavery is wrong full stop and we shouldn't deviate from that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/07/18 11:59:38 PM #21: |
Funkydog posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Funkydog posted... Why is it wrong in the context of punishing criminals? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 11/08/18 12:04:52 AM #22: |
Funkydog posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Funkydog posted...What often amounts to slavery is wrong, yes. How is punishment for crime comparable to slavery? --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/08/18 12:09:51 AM #23: |
eggcorn posted...
Funkydog posted...Rika_Furude posted... What? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 11/08/18 12:13:52 AM #24: |
Doing shit like laundry or something communal is fair. But doing hard labor for the state or for someone's profit is wrong imo. That is slavery.
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Funkydog 11/08/18 12:20:11 AM #25: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Why is it wrong in the context of punishing criminals? They are still people at the end of the day. Forced labour is just a means to get it done cheaply or free, not to teach them better work ethic of provide a skill to help them afterwards. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/08/18 12:23:01 AM #26: |
Funkydog posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Why is it wrong in the context of punishing criminals? I mean, by that logic they shouldnt get any punishment, because they are still people. People dont get locked away in prison cells. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/08/18 12:23:51 AM #27: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Doing shit like laundry or something communal is fair. But doing hard labor for the state or for someone's profit is wrong imo. That is slavery. Slavery is any forced labour. Even doing laundry would be slavery. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 11/08/18 12:24:19 AM #28: |
You don't work, you don't eat.
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gunplagirl 11/08/18 12:25:11 AM #29: |
Professor_Kanjo posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...You asking was it wrong to start arresting black people over petty crimes after slavery ended as a way to continue slavery? Yes...yes it was Urinary tract? --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/08/18 12:25:41 AM #30: |
Slavery is slavery, no matter how you slice it.
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Funkydog 11/08/18 12:28:53 AM #31: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Funkydog posted...Rika_Furude posted...Why is it wrong in the context of punishing criminals? People do get locked away. Dehumanizing them doesn't change reality or help us work on solving the issues of why people do these horrible things. And yes, ideally prison should be about reform over punishment. But if you are going to do the latter at least make it humane and not just a way to get cheap labour. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/08/18 12:30:24 AM #32: |
Funkydog posted...
Rika_Furude posted...Funkydog posted... Making them do work isnt nescessarily dehumanising. And again, its as a punishment for a crime, not for profit in this scenario. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/08/18 12:35:00 AM #33: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Making them do work isnt nescessarily dehumanising. And again, its as a punishment for a crime, not for profit in this scenario. Okay? Did you read what I said? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/08/18 12:35:47 AM #34: |
Funkydog posted...
Rika_Furude posted... Yes? Why would you think i didnt? I was quite clearly responding to your argument that its dehumanising. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/08/18 12:45:55 AM #35: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Funkydog posted...Rika_Furude posted... Try reading again then. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/08/18 12:47:11 AM #36: |
Antifar posted...
Yes But I think the inmates should be able to choose to work for better benefits --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/08/18 12:51:15 AM #38: |
![]() But thanks to Reaganomics, prisons turned to profits Cause free labor is the cornerstone of US economics Cause slavery was abolished, unless you are in prison You think I am bullshitting, then read the 13th Amendment Involuntary servitude and slavery it prohibits That's why they giving drug offenders time in double digits --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 11/08/18 1:21:01 AM #39: |
Spooking posted...
Paragon21XX posted...You don't work, you don't eat. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TiamatLover 11/08/18 1:22:34 AM #40: |
If someone is convicted of a crime, they don't deserve any rights.
If something isn't severe enough to warrant that (eg. cannabis offences), it shouldn't be a crime in the first place. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png ^ Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/08/18 1:43:56 AM #42: |
You do realize that "laundry duty" means cleaning and folding hundreds of prisoner uniforms, bed sheets and other stuff over the course of no less than an 8 hour shift, it's not just "do a few loads of laundry and fold them up" it's "do a few dozen loads in industrial washers and dryers plus you have to use industrial grade cleaners in the process so there's a medical risk involved even with proper handling of the materials"
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Devil_Katt_II 11/08/18 1:44:29 AM #43: |
kind of yea
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Bad_Mojo 11/08/18 2:17:45 AM #44: |
gunplagirl posted...
You do realize that "laundry duty" means cleaning and folding hundreds of prisoner uniforms, bed sheets and other stuff over the course of no less than an 8 hour shift, it's not just "do a few loads of laundry and fold them up" it's "do a few dozen loads in industrial washers and dryers plus you have to use industrial grade cleaners in the process so there's a medical risk involved even with proper handling of the materials" But the people that do those are mostly people that want to do that. They volunteer because a lot of people in prison want shit to do and the people that do those jobs get perks from other inmates. It's the same with the people that work in the kitchens. A lot of them want to be in there. That's the "chore" part of what the person was talking about --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Devil_Katt_II 11/08/18 2:20:41 AM #45: |
being a prisoner that is good still means you get to fear for your life every fucking second of your life
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eggcorn 11/08/18 2:28:22 AM #46: |
It's weird that the same type of people that say talk shit get hit can't grasp the concept of if you can't do the time don't do the crime. Working in prison is not comparable to slavery and you people are out of touch with reality anway because in most cases prisoners want to work.
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Devil_Katt_II 11/08/18 2:33:30 AM #47: |
eggcorn posted...
It's weird that the same type of people that say talk shit get hit can't grasp the concept of if you can't do the time don't do the crime. Working in prison is not comparable to slavery and you people are out of touch with reality anway because in most cases prisoners want to work. they are people that can't even grasp the concept of them ever doing wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Devil_Katt_II 11/08/18 2:35:05 AM #48: |
you're protected by a layer
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LyraTheUnicorn 11/08/18 2:42:18 AM #49: |
Don't got the time, don't do the crime.
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Devil_Katt_II 11/08/18 3:05:57 AM #50: |
LyraTheUnicorn posted...
Don't got the time, don't do the crime. Devil_Katt_II posted... you're protected by a layer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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