Current Events > Why does every single enemy in Final Fantasy Tactics have a counter?

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It's really frustrating to fight random mobs.
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Because you should also have them
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Use ranged attacks

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

Lol why would you have that useless one? Costs way too much JP, and doesn't trigger on half the things regular counter does

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Use ranged attacks

I'm fighting with Ramza and 4 Chocobos right now
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Garioshi posted...

I'm fighting with Ramza and 4 Chocobos right now

Why?
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Because where else would you put your stuff
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Lol why would you have that useless one?

Because it's reasonably useful against everyone Agrias and Orlandu can't brutally murder immediately.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

You mean Blade Grasp
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Irregardless posted...

Garioshi posted...

I'm fighting with Ramza and 4 Chocobos right now

Why?

I sent everyone else to do propositions
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Look out!

These monks have WEAPON GUARD!
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Garioshi posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Use ranged attacks

I'm fighting with Ramza and 4 Chocobos right now

Ramza has tons of ranged options, Choco Ball/Meteor are great

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

Lol why would you have that useless one? Costs way too much JP, and doesn't trigger on half the things regular counter does

I'm pretty sure it has a flat trigger % of your Brave.

So if you have Brave 97 it will trigger 97% of the time.

I wouldn't try to do that with anyone but Ramza, though because units leave the party if it gets too high.

That said the game is designed with the idea that you're going to throw a lot of rocks in the beginning.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Garioshi posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Use ranged attacks

I'm fighting with Ramza and 4 Chocobos right now

Ramza has tons of ranged options, Choco Ball/Meteor are great

They have Choco Attack and Cure. I'm in Chapter 2 right now and I had to go across the entire map so I could get bows so that my archers can actually do shot against these summoners and archers in the map I'm stuck on.
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You could "git gud" as it were.

Also this should be a lesson in why you never send your whole team away on a mission.
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They don't. Monsters have Counter. Very few human enemies do.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

I wouldn't try to do that with anyone but Ramza, though because units leave the party if it gets too high.

High Faith causes units to wander off.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I'm pretty sure it has a flat trigger % of your Brave.

So if you have Brave 97 it will trigger 97% of the time.

It only triggers on regular attacks. Like the attack command.

Regular Counter triggers on skills too if you're in range

Irregardless posted...

You could "git gud" as it were.

Also this should be a lesson in why you never send your whole team away on a mission.

I didn't want to do random encounters but there's no way to avoid them
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Could be worse: you can get 40-counter-counter chains in Disgaea if you build right, and go up against the right enemy.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

Lol why would you have that useless one? Costs way too much JP, and doesn't trigger on half the things regular counter does

I'm pretty sure it has a flat trigger % of your Brave.

So if you have Brave 97 it will trigger 97% of the time.

I wouldn't try to do that with anyone but Ramza, though because units leave the party if it gets too high.

That said the game is designed with the idea that you're going to throw a lot of rocks in the beginning.

All counters have a flat percent to activate and leaving the party is faith not bravery
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Panthera posted...

They don't. Monsters have Counter. Very few human enemies do.

a lot of the random battles are nothing but monsters. Even some of the early story battles are just monsters like with Argus at the beginning.
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Get Dark Knight job and pwn everyone by sucking their HP LMAO!!!
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Irony posted...

All counters have a flat percent to activate and leaving the party is faith not bravery

Low bravery will cause units to wander off.

But nah use Dual Welding Monks they are some of the most OP people out there. They will almost instant kill any unit in one hit, can heal, revive, tank and range attack if needed.
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Veggeta X posted...

Get Dark Knight job and pwn everyone by sucking their HP LMAO!!!

He may not even be playing the PSP version.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

All counters have a flat percent to activate and leaving the party is faith not bravery

Low bravery will cause units to wander off.

He literally said if it gets too high
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Irregardless posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Get Dark Knight job and pwn everyone by sucking their HP LMAO!!!

He may not even be playing the PSP version.

Yep, playing the PS1 version over here.
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Then Dual Wielding monks is the way to go to make it ez mode.
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Actually leaving the party is both faith and brave. Faith increases magic power given and received (decreases as well for below 50, but too high and your unit leaves to go serve Glabados.

Brave increases physical damage given and taken above 50, and it also increases reaction skill trigger%. It reduces physical damage taken/given below 50 but too low and they are cowardly and will leave the party.
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Yeah but you should have an advantage especially if you have a shield equipped because the enemies can only counter-attack with a head-on face-to-face attack, which has a much lower chance of hitting you.

Veggeta X posted...

Then Dual Wielding monks is the way to go to make it ez mode.

From the sounds of it he only has Ramza and some Chocobos available at all and getting JP for Ramza isn't really viable.
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WTF what happened to all his generics? Should have a ton without hiring.
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Irregardless posted...

getting JP for Ramza isn't really viable.

Lolwut?

Yell to 50 speed, then accumulate

I died. Oh well.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Yell to 50 speed, then accumulate

It's a bad idea because you'll level up and enemies get strong as fuck too. Just get dual wielding monks.
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Your best female mage should become a Samurai. Draw Out skills are affected by the Magic Attack stat and the women typically have better magic stats.

As a side note, your units will get some JP gain in the jobs that the teammates in the party are getting.
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Veggeta X posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Yell to 50 speed, then accumulate

It's a bad idea because you'll level up and enemies get strong as fuck too. Just get dual wielding monks.

They don't get strong as fuck though. They get fractionally less weak.

Play in War Of The Gods mode where all enemies balloon up to level 200 by chapter 3

Garioshi posted...

Irregardless posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Get Dark Knight job and pwn everyone by sucking their HP LMAO!!!

He may not even be playing the PSP version.

Yep, playing the PS1 version over here.

the dark knight job is also a fucking pain in the ass to get and not worth it, if you can fill up a team of Dark Knights you're just wasting time as you're already strong enough to beat the game.
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Kineth posted...

Draw Out

It's just too bad Draw Out is heavily dependent on dupe glitches and catching tossed swords in the Deep Dungeon.

Tyranthraxus posted...

the dark knight job is also a fucking pain in the ass to get and not worth it, if you can fill up a team of Dark Knights you're just wasting time as you're already strong enough to beat the game.

You're literally always strong enough to beat the game. It's been solo'd by a level 1 Ramza in just about every job

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

the dark knight job is also a fucking pain in the ass to get and not worth it, if you can fill up a team of Dark Knights you're just wasting time as you're already strong enough to beat the game.

You're literally always strong enough to beat the game. It's been solo'd by a level 1 Ramza in just about every job

You're not "always" strong enough those setups take days of grinding while using steal XP to build ramzas jobs without increasing his level.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

the dark knight job is also a fucking pain in the ass to get and not worth it, if you can fill up a team of Dark Knights you're just wasting time as you're already strong enough to beat the game.

You're literally always strong enough to beat the game. It's been solo'd by a level 1 Ramza in just about every job

You're not "always" strong enough those setups take days of grinding while using steal XP to build ramzas jobs without increasing his level.

Is this with or without exploiting level-down traps?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

the dark knight job is also a fucking pain in the ass to get and not worth it, if you can fill up a team of Dark Knights you're just wasting time as you're already strong enough to beat the game.

You're literally always strong enough to beat the game. It's been solo'd by a level 1 Ramza in just about every job

You're not "always" strong enough those setups take days of grinding while using steal XP to build ramzas jobs without increasing his level.

Nah, just a code to disable levelups

Its CE law to tag me in every topic about this game
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Irony posted...

Because you should also have them

No. You should have hamedo, or whatever it's called in the PSP one.

Lol why would you have that useless one? Costs way too much JP, and doesn't trigger on half the things regular counter does

They are both Brave %

Never mind , I see what youre saying now
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5 mages
make Ramza do nothing each battle
get calculators eventually Ramza now one shots the game

Or five monks.
monks are disgustingly OP

Learn all the calculator abilities with Ramza, and then turn him into a Black Mage and learn all the spells. Keep him as a black mage but have math skills be your secondary skillset. End battles in one turn by casting flare on almost everyone at once.
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