Poll of the Day > Bethesda Game Studios to face a class action lawsuit regarding Fallout 76.

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adjl 11/27/18 11:53:20 AM #51:	LinkPizza posted... adjl posted... helIy posted... it's really not Bethesdas issue if you're unable to get the patch to play your online-only game, though. it's your job to understand your own internet limitations. And it's their job to make a functional game, and accurately state the system requirements that will be needed to make it work. You could probably expect the usage to be high if youre going to have to be online to play it anyway though, right. I mean, you wouldnt be able to cry about not playing the game because you ran out of data while playing the game, right? I feel your internet limitations are the players fault, tbh... Which is why I added the edit about reasonable expectations. It is an online game. It's going to use some bandwidth just to play, and you're going to have to download patches. That's a given, and nobody can really complain about that. A 56 GB patch a week after the game launched, however, is a whole lot more than anyone can be expected to predict. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:913123778] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's really not Bethesdas issue if you're unable to get the patch to play your online-only game, though. it's your job to understand your own internet limitations.</quote> And it's their job to make a functional game, and accurately state the system requirements that will be needed to make it work.</quote> You could probably expect the usage to be high if youre going to have to be online to play it anyway though, right. I mean, you wouldnt be able to cry about not playing the game because you ran out of data while playing the game, right? I feel your internet limitations are the players fault, tbh...</quote> Which is why I added the edit about reasonable expectations. It is an online game. It's going to use some bandwidth just to play, and you're going to have to download patches. That's a given, and nobody can really complain about that. A 56 GB patch a week after the game launched, however, is a whole lot more than anyone can be expected to predict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 11/27/18 11:54:58 AM #52:	You know, a lot of this would have resolved if Bethesda just called Fallout 76 an early access game. Yea, that has a negative connotation as well, but at least people know when you buy an early access game that you are getting an unfinished product with the assumption that it will be finished in the future. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:913123857] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>You know, a lot of this would have resolved if Bethesda just called Fallout 76 an early access game. Yea, that has a negative connotation as well, but at least people know when you buy an early access game that you are getting an unfinished product with the assumption that it will be finished in the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charocks 11/27/18 12:05:04 PM #53:	A scummy lawyer was trolling youtube and saw neckbearded reviewers throwing tantrums over the game and is trying to make a buck. Lemme tell you something; there is very little legal standing for this "case". You have a datacap? Not Betheda's problem. You encountering glitches in a game that they openly stated would have issues? Buyer's remorse isn't a valid reason. Any other shallow arguement? Not Bethesda's problem. If you can't stand this "injustice"? Sell your electronics and your house, buy a cabin in the woods, and crawl into your safe space and sob to yourself. --- 11/01/18 - The day Nintendo failed Smash fans. GT - AN EWOKS WRATH <cite>Charocks posted [p:913124340] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>A scummy lawyer was trolling youtube and saw neckbearded reviewers throwing tantrums over the game and is trying to make a buck. Lemme tell you something; there is very little legal standing for this "case". You have a datacap? Not Betheda's problem. You encountering glitches in a game that they openly stated would have issues? Buyer's remorse isn't a valid reason. Any other shallow arguement? Not Bethesda's problem. If you can't stand this "injustice"? Sell your electronics and your house, buy a cabin in the woods, and crawl into your safe space and sob to yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 11/27/18 12:14:48 PM #54:	Charocks posted... A scummy lawyer was trolling youtube and saw neckbearded reviewers throwing tantrums over the game and is trying to make a buck. Lemme tell you something; there is very little legal standing for this "case". You have a datacap? Not Betheda's problem. You encountering glitches in a game that they openly stated would have issues? Buyer's remorse isn't a valid reason. Any other shallow arguement? Not Bethesda's problem. If you can't stand this "injustice"? Sell your electronics and your house, buy a cabin in the woods, and crawl into your safe space and sob to yourself. In all honesty, the lawsuit probably won't succeed, you're right. A very important distinction needs to made here between "Bethesda will lose this lawsuit" and "Bethesda deserves to lose this lawsuit and/or face major backlash for this." The former ignores that US law tends to be very pro-corporation and Bethesda has done everything they can to avoid having to take legal responsibility for the quality of their product, which is just unrealistic. The latter is a statement based on the fact that Bethesda sold a rushed, barely-playable game and tried to fix it with a patch so large that many players won't be able to download it for another month (if ever), and are refusing to issue refunds to people who have a problem with that. That's not only realistic, but arguably the only reasonable response. People are quick to dismiss these complaints as "you should have known better than to buy a Bethesda game at launch," but that attitude completely absolves Bethesda of any accountability for making the unplayable game in the first place. The unplayable state of Fallout 76 is entirely Bethesda's fault, and holding them accountable for that is not only perfectly reasonable, it should be considered a moral obligation for anyone that values quality control in games. They've been given a free pass on that front for far too long. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:913124850] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Charocks posted...</cite> <quote>A scummy lawyer was trolling youtube and saw neckbearded reviewers throwing tantrums over the game and is trying to make a buck. Lemme tell you something; there is very little legal standing for this "case". You have a datacap? Not Betheda's problem. You encountering glitches in a game that they openly stated would have issues? Buyer's remorse isn't a valid reason. Any other shallow arguement? Not Bethesda's problem. If you can't stand this "injustice"? Sell your electronics and your house, buy a cabin in the woods, and crawl into your safe space and sob to yourself.</quote> In all honesty, the lawsuit probably won't succeed, you're right. A very important distinction needs to made here between "Bethesda will lose this lawsuit" and "Bethesda deserves to lose this lawsuit and/or face major backlash for this." The former ignores that US law tends to be very pro-corporation and Bethesda has done everything they can to avoid having to take legal responsibility for the quality of their product, which is just unrealistic. The latter is a statement based on the fact that Bethesda sold a rushed, barely-playable game and tried to fix it with a patch so large that many players won't be able to download it for another month (if ever), and are refusing to issue refunds to people who have a problem with that. That's not only realistic, but arguably the only reasonable response. People are quick to dismiss these complaints as "you should have known better than to buy a Bethesda game at launch," but that attitude completely absolves Bethesda of any accountability for making the unplayable game in the first place. The unplayable state of Fallout 76 is entirely Bethesda's fault, and holding them accountable for that is not only perfectly reasonable, it should be considered a moral obligation for anyone that values quality control in games. They've been given a free pass on that front for far too long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/27/18 12:20:06 PM #55:	I agree and disagree. I agree that they should face some backlash. But I disagree that it is 100% their fault. They deserve a lot, maybe even most, of the blame. But not all do it. And while its unplayable for many due to their internet, I think its still playable for most. They also have been given a free pass for far too long. But the people who complain about Bethesda all the time continues to give them a free pass... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:913125122] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>I agree and disagree. I agree that they should face some backlash. But I disagree that it is 100% their fault. They deserve a lot, maybe even most, of the blame. But not all do it. And while its unplayable for many due to their internet, I think its still playable for most. They also have been given a free pass for far too long. But the people who complain about Bethesda all the time continues to give them a free pass...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 12:20:44 PM #56:	The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913125156] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 11/27/18 1:09:36 PM #57:	Mead posted... The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day Adji is just salty because hes got a crappy ISP. Scream to the wind little snowflake, scream. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:913127328] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day</quote> Adji is just salty because hes got a crappy ISP. Scream to the wind little snowflake, scream.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 11/27/18 1:23:37 PM #58:	TES_Nut posted... shadowsword87 posted... TES_Nut posted... It's not even that bad. Ffs it's like these people have never played an online game at launch. The existence of patches makes this lawsuit pointless anyway as its evidence of supporting the product. This is a dream compared to the eso launch or the ffxiv launch. Now those were bad. Yeah, f* people who have data-capped internet, they don't deserve to play their game. It's not hard to imagine someone buying the game, downloading it, and then can't patch the game due to their datacap. But, because in order to install the patch, you need to open the game and see that "oh, I can't download this". Meaning they can't play it for a fing month, which seems fair for a refund. But, their policy is specifically if they even downloaded the game. Your shitty internet isn't bethesda's problem. Yeah I don't understand data caps at all. Clearly they aren't keeping up with the pace of games, and they should be forced to by law. I hope this lawsuit is the start of some heavy laws being made. Like no more releasing a half-finished game just because you can patch it later after the users report the bugs for free. Time to open massive testing centers again and to force companies to not cheap out at our expense. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:913128084] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>It's not even that bad. Ffs it's like these people have never played an online game at launch. The existence of patches makes this lawsuit pointless anyway as its evidence of supporting the product. This is a dream compared to the eso launch or the ffxiv launch. Now those were bad.</quote> Yeah, f people who have data-capped internet, they don't deserve to play their game. It's not hard to imagine someone buying the game, downloading it, and then can't patch the game due to their datacap. But, because in order to install the patch, you need to open the game and see that "oh, I can't download this". Meaning they can't play it for a f*ing month, which seems fair for a refund. But, their policy is specifically if they even downloaded the game.</quote> Your shitty internet isn't bethesda's problem.</quote> Yeah I don't understand data caps at all. Clearly they aren't keeping up with the pace of games, and they should be forced to by law. I hope this lawsuit is the start of some heavy laws being made. Like no more releasing a half-finished game just because you can patch it later after the users report the bugs for free. Time to open massive testing centers again and to force companies to not cheap out at our expense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 11/27/18 1:32:50 PM #59:	Mead posted... Doctor Foxx posted... LinkPizza posted... minervo posted... If I bought a sandwich and after I bit into it there was mold, I'd want a refund, personally. Did you order it with mold on it? Or did the menu say that it came with mold? The menu advertised it as mold free When they announced the game they literally said it would have issues at launch. Then the game launched with issues and everyone lost their minds about it This. They should still be giving out refunds because they arent advertising a broken product on the box though. Not everyone reads up on their games beforehand. --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:913128632] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>If I bought a sandwich and after I bit into it there was mold, I'd want a refund, personally.</quote> Did you order it with mold on it? Or did the menu say that it came with mold?</quote> The menu advertised it as mold free</quote> When they announced the game they literally said it would have issues at launch. Then the game launched with issues and everyone lost their minds about it</quote> This. They should still be giving out refunds because they arent advertising a broken product on the box though. Not everyone reads up on their games beforehand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 2:00:05 PM #60:	Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913130195] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 2:01:25 PM #61:	JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913130270] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 11/27/18 2:32:50 PM #62:	Mead posted... The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day That is post-patch, so not necessarily the most relevant commentary on its launch state. TES_Nut posted... Adji is just salty because hes got a crappy ISP. Scream to the wind little snowflake, scream. Nah, I have neither a bandwidth cap nor any particular interest in the game. New Vegas has been in my backlog for several years now, and I'm not particularly desperate to get another Fallout game until I get around to that one. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:913132081] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>The game is no where near unplayable Heck Ive been playing it all day</quote> That is post-patch, so not necessarily the most relevant commentary on its launch state. <cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>Adji is just salty because hes got a crappy ISP. Scream to the wind little snowflake, scream.</quote> Nah, I have neither a bandwidth cap nor any particular interest in the game. New Vegas has been in my backlog for several years now, and I'm not particularly desperate to get another Fallout game until I get around to that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 2:35:13 PM #63:	That is post-patch, so not necessarily the most relevant commentary on its launch state. Tbh the game has had more issues post patch for most folks actually playing the game Fix one problem, create two more --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913132214] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><quote>That is post-patch, so not necessarily the most relevant commentary on its launch state.</quote> Tbh the game has had more issues post patch for most folks actually playing the game Fix one problem, create two more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 2:43:41 PM #64:	Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". Bethesda treats its commercial releases as beta-tests, im not condoning it, but thats how theyve always made business. --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913132692] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". Bethesda treats its commercial releases as beta-tests, im not condoning it, but thats how theyve always made business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 2:44:56 PM #65:	JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913132759] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made".</quote> I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 2:46:24 PM #66:	Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky. --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913132845] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made".</quote> I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine</quote> I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 2:47:20 PM #67:	JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky. Dynamic weather effects --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913132897] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made".</quote> I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine</quote> I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky.</quote> Dynamic weather effects</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 2:52:01 PM #68:	Here is a screenshot I just took from the Skyrim forum with a full page reporting only day 1 bugs: --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913133155] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>Here is a screenshot I just took from the Skyrim forum with a full page reporting only day 1 bugs: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/27/18 3:00:16 PM #69:	That hardly means the game was unplayable. You yourself just said you played it for 16 hours straight. Obviously youre gonna see a ton of topics about bugs when you use the search function and it filters out the topics from many thousands of players each playing the game for hours and hours. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:913133570] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>That hardly means the game was unplayable. You yourself just said you played it for 16 hours straight. Obviously youre gonna see a ton of topics about bugs when you use the search function and it filters out the topics from many thousands of players each playing the game for hours and hours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 3:05:36 PM #70:	Mead posted... That hardly means the game was unplayable. You yourself just said you played it for 16 hours straight. Obviously youre gonna see a ton of topics about bugs when you use the search function and it filters out the topics from many thousands of players each playing the game for hours and hours. Man, its hard for me to talk about a game I havent touched yet(Fallout 76, the moment I heard "micro-transaction" I made a promise to myself to stay away from this). However, Ive touched every other Bethesda product at launch, and theyre always like this. Im not saying they shouldnt be fined or whatever, Im just saying Im not surprised. ESO had a literal game stopping bug at launch that locked everyone in the Ebonhart Pact at level 15. Took them nearly a whole week to fix that. They did eventually fix the thousands of bugs that Skyrim had at launch, however they branded it "Skyrim: Remastered" and made us pay twice for the same game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQdA0lUKW4g" data-time=" --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913133838] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>That hardly means the game was unplayable. You yourself just said you played it for 16 hours straight. Obviously youre gonna see a ton of topics about bugs when you use the search function and it filters out the topics from many thousands of players each playing the game for hours and hours.</quote> Man, its hard for me to talk about a game I havent touched yet(Fallout 76, the moment I heard "micro-transaction" I made a promise to myself to stay away from this). However, Ive touched every other Bethesda product at launch, and theyre always like this. Im not saying they shouldnt be fined or whatever, Im just saying Im not surprised. ESO had a literal game stopping bug at launch that locked everyone in the Ebonhart Pact at level 15. Took them nearly a whole week to fix that. They did eventually fix the thousands of bugs that Skyrim had at launch, however they branded it "Skyrim: Remastered" and made us pay twice for the same game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQdA0lUKW4g" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkKirby2500 11/27/18 3:05:46 PM #71:	WastelandCowboy posted... Also explains why they did NOT want to sell it on Steam and force it through their platform. Steam is a consumers' best friend and would have little problem with refunds. Steam shut them down when they tried to monetize mods made by other people for themselves. Also, Steam takes a cut of every purchase, including micro transactions, which is the whole reason Fallout 76 was made, to try and make a fortune off of micro transactions like every other AAA publisher, but which so far, Bethesda has failed to do (the Creation Club is hated), despite numerous attempts, because most people don't pay for micro transactions in single player games, so they made a multiplayer one out of the pieces of Fallout 4. --- The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. They're all complacent sheeple. Passion fights, but reason wins. <cite>DarkKirby2500 posted [p:913133847] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Also explains why they did NOT want to sell it on Steam and force it through their platform. Steam is a consumers' best friend and would have little problem with refunds.</quote> Steam shut them down when they tried to monetize mods made by other people for themselves. Also, Steam takes a cut of every purchase, including micro transactions, which is the whole reason Fallout 76 was made, to try and make a fortune off of micro transactions like every other AAA publisher, but which so far, Bethesda has failed to do (the Creation Club is hated), despite numerous attempts, because most people don't pay for micro transactions in single player games, so they made a multiplayer one out of the pieces of Fallout 4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 11/27/18 4:03:05 PM #72:	frivolous lawsuit* --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:913136862] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>frivolous lawsuit*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 11/27/18 4:06:13 PM #73:	_AdjI_ posted... Nah, I have neither a bandwidth cap nor any particular interest in the game. New Vegas has been in my backlog for several years now, and I'm not particularly desperate to get another Fallout game until I get around to that one. So....fuck off then. Seriously what are you even doing here? --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:913137047] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, I have neither a bandwidth cap nor any particular interest in the game. New Vegas has been in my backlog for several years now, and I'm not particularly desperate to get another Fallout game until I get around to that one. </quote> So....fuck off then. Seriously what are you even doing here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J_Dawg983 11/27/18 4:13:39 PM #74:	JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Mead posted... JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Bullshit Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made". I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky. This kind of stuff is so bothersome, most people like to bitch about broken game and glitches when most of the glitches are wonky physics stuff that generally does no harm and is more comedic than anything. Sure there's some actual "game breaking" glitches, like when I was playing eso off the start, one of the quests was uncompletable? because one of the characters you needed to talk to wouldn't spawn in. Stuff like that is an actual problem but most people just say bugs and keep bitching. Knowing how people react to popular games, it's probably a big chunk of people who don't even own the game. --- RSN: Pridefc PSN: Jaosin <cite>J_Dawg983 posted [p:913137460] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Bullshit</quote> Maybe you dont remember it, but I do, very well. You can go to the Skyrim board right here on Gfaqs and find plenty of topics from that time calling Skyrim a "broken piece of code" and "one of the worst games ever made".</quote> I remember playing it nonstop like a total goob It was fine</quote> I played 16 hours straight, my girlfriend from that era broke up with me because I refused to stop playing to have sex with her. With that said, I remember mammoths falling from the sky.</quote> This kind of stuff is so bothersome, most people like to bitch about broken game and glitches when most of the glitches are wonky physics stuff that generally does no harm and is more comedic than anything. Sure there's some actual "game breaking" glitches, like when I was playing eso off the start, one of the quests was uncompletable? because one of the characters you needed to talk to wouldn't spawn in. Stuff like that is an actual problem but most people just say bugs and keep bitching. Knowing how people react to popular games, it's probably a big chunk of people who don't even own the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 11/27/18 4:29:10 PM #75:	JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. Unplayable implies I can't do anything in the game without it crashing or corrupting my save file. Or there are certain objectives that never show up no matter how many times I reload. Unplayable does not mean weird physics issues with things flying in the air and funny glitches that make great YouTube videos. Yea, they should probably fix those, but it doesn't stop me from moving on and enjoying the game. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:913138316] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> Unplayable implies I can't do anything in the game without it crashing or corrupting my save file. Or there are certain objectives that never show up no matter how many times I reload. Unplayable does not mean weird physics issues with things flying in the air and funny glitches that make great YouTube videos. Yea, they should probably fix those, but it doesn't stop me from moving on and enjoying the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 11/27/18 5:21:06 PM #76:	JuliusSaci posted... Here is a screenshot I just took from the Skyrim forum with a full page reporting only day 1 bugs: Hahaha "Flashing bug in the distance?". This is not the bug we were looking for. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:913141212] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Here is a screenshot I just took from the Skyrim forum with a full page reporting only day 1 bugs: </quote> Hahaha "Flashing bug in the distance?". This is not the bug we were looking for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuliusSaci 11/27/18 5:55:57 PM #77:	Siveria 7 years ago#1 Lets play a game: Lets guess how many game breaking bugs/crash bugs/save corruption bugs there will be in Skyrim at initial release. Not a troll thread its meant for fun. Bethesda is known for doing very poor testing of their games. Lets make a bit of fun of them. I predict at least 10 bugs that will cause a instant ctd, at least 2-3 that will destroy your save with corruption, and about 15 game breaking bugs that prevent you from finishing the game. I also predict the players will fix these bugs weeks before bethesda gets off their ass to do it. On a side note.. I can't wait for the game, even though they overly simplified it. People knew Skyrim was going to be buggy even before it launched. Its a Bethesda game. Dont rewrite history. Fallout 76 problem is bad design. If the content behind the shell was good, no one would care about the bugs, just as no one cared about Skyrim bugs. --- Somos bandidos, Pablo. <cite>JuliusSaci posted [p:913143182] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>Siveria 7 years ago#1 Lets play a game: Lets guess how many game breaking bugs/crash bugs/save corruption bugs there will be in Skyrim at initial release. Not a troll thread its meant for fun. Bethesda is known for doing very poor testing of their games. Lets make a bit of fun of them. I predict at least 10 bugs that will cause a instant ctd, at least 2-3 that will destroy your save with corruption, and about 15 game breaking bugs that prevent you from finishing the game. I also predict the players will fix these bugs weeks before bethesda gets off their ass to do it. On a side note.. I can't wait for the game, even though they overly simplified it. People knew Skyrim was going to be buggy even before it launched. Its a Bethesda game. Dont rewrite history. Fallout 76 problem is bad design. If the content behind the shell was good, no one would care about the bugs, just as no one cared about Skyrim bugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/27/18 8:24:56 PM #78:	When I first heard about it I thought it was going to be an actual investigator such as the FBI. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:913152092] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>When I first heard about it I thought it was going to be an actual investigator such as the FBI.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 11/27/18 9:33:55 PM #79:	JuliusSaci posted... Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:913156169] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuliusSaci posted...</cite> <quote>Skyrim was unplayable for the first 30 days after its launch.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FinalFantasyIV 11/27/18 9:38:26 PM #80:	PC Inferior race boohooing again --- http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/0/2/7/28027_front.jpg <cite>FinalFantasyIV posted [p:913156425] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>PC Inferior race boohooing again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 11/27/18 11:13:22 PM #81:	TES_Nut posted... Seriously what are you even doing here? Agreeing with the lawsuit. That is what the topic is about, is it not? <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:913161180] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote> Seriously what are you even doing here?</quote> Agreeing with the lawsuit. That is what the topic is about, is it not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackhrt 11/28/18 2:16:23 AM #82:	Nade Duck posted... why did nobody see this coming? even their good games are fucked up on release. A person can see something like that coming. people will ignore things and just follow the new thing they see in front of them. --- "I live my life 3 videogames at a time. Nothing else matters. Not the mortgage, not my clan and their BS. For those 3 games or less, I'm free." <cite>blackhrt posted [p:913168164] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote>why did nobody see this coming? even their good games are fucked up on release.</quote> A person can see something like that coming. people will ignore things and just follow the new thing they see in front of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 11/28/18 5:13:49 AM #83:	DarkKirby2500 posted... which is the whole reason Fallout 76 was made, to try and make a fortune off of micro transactions like every other AAA publisher, but which so far, Bethesda has failed to do (the Creation Club is hated), despite numerous attempts, because most people don't pay for micro transactions in single player games, so they made a multiplayer one out of the pieces of Fallout 4. this whole thing is wrong --- take 'em out back <cite>helIy posted [p:913171857] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkKirby2500 posted...</cite> <quote>which is the whole reason Fallout 76 was made, to try and make a fortune off of micro transactions like every other AAA publisher, but which so far, Bethesda has failed to do (the Creation Club is hated), despite numerous attempts, because most people don't pay for micro transactions in single player games, so they made a multiplayer one out of the pieces of Fallout 4.</quote> this whole thing is wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 11/28/18 1:13:20 PM #84:	OhhhJa posted... Why cant Bethesda develop a fully functional game? Bethesda gave the Fallout 4 engine to a developer that had never worked on it before and told them to make it multiplayer. The fact that it's even partially functional is a miracle. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:913188557] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Why cant Bethesda develop a fully functional game?</quote> Bethesda gave the Fallout 4 engine to a developer that had never worked on it before and told them to make it multiplayer. The fact that it's even partially functional is a miracle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 12/01/18 1:19:57 AM #85:	Enjoy https://imgur.com/aGAgfdo --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:913342488] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>Enjoy https://imgur.com/aGAgfdo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ferko420 12/01/18 1:47:47 AM #86:	tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game? --- Switch: Ferko: SW-3592-8151-5043 3DS: Ferko: 4167-4487-9551 PSN: HAVOCtheHedgehog <cite>ferko420 posted [p:913343217] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ferko420 12/01/18 1:51:48 AM #87:	Zareth posted... OhhhJa posted... Why cant Bethesda develop a fully functional game? Bethesda gave the Fallout 4 engine to a developer that had never worked on it before and told them to make it multiplayer. The fact that it's even partially functional is a miracle. if you dont have to develop NPC's there should be plenty of time to make multiplayer work... --- Switch: Ferko: SW-3592-8151-5043 3DS: Ferko: 4167-4487-9551 PSN: HAVOCtheHedgehog <cite>ferko420 posted [p:913343321] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zareth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Why cant Bethesda develop a fully functional game?</quote> Bethesda gave the Fallout 4 engine to a developer that had never worked on it before and told them to make it multiplayer. The fact that it's even partially functional is a miracle.</quote> if you dont have to develop NPC's there should be plenty of time to make multiplayer work...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/01/18 1:52:01 AM #88:	ferko420 posted... tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game? They don't make money from pre orders. The distributors do. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:913343330] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>ferko420 posted...</cite> <quote>tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game?</quote> They don't make money from pre orders. The distributors do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J_Dawg983 12/01/18 2:10:03 AM #89:	FinalFantasyIV posted... PC Inferior race boohooing again Seems like it, the game runs fine on console. --- RSN: Pridefc PSN: Jaosin <cite>J_Dawg983 posted [p:913343787] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>FinalFantasyIV posted...</cite> <quote>PC Inferior race boohooing again</quote> Seems like it, the game runs fine on console.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/01/18 5:30:44 AM #90:	ferko420 posted... tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game? why is it bethesdas problem that you have shitty internet? --- take 'em out back <cite>helIy posted [p:913347755] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>ferko420 posted...</cite> <quote>tell you what, i'd be pissed off. i can only download a gig per hour on a good day, if was really excited for this game and a 56gig update on day 1, yer effing a right id want a refund, what good was the disc i bought?!? EVERYBODY needs to stop this pre-order shit and let them only make bank once the game is released not 6 months ahead of time..... if the game aint available on launch day to everyone than they fail as a publisher. ever had a problem finiding a first party nintendo game?</quote> why is it bethesdas problem that you have shitty internet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/01/18 1:38:22 PM #91:	helIy posted... why is it bethesdas problem that you have shitty internet? Everybody in Australia has shitty internet. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:913361557] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>why is it bethesdas problem that you have shitty internet?</quote> Everybody in Australia has shitty internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 12/01/18 2:21:44 PM #92:	does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:913363609] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote>does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/01/18 2:37:32 PM #93:	Sahuagin posted... does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for. I have it, but I haven't played much of it. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:913364380] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for.</quote> I have it, but I haven't played much of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 12/06/18 11:21:03 PM #94:	WastelandCowboy posted... Sahuagin posted... does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for. I have it, but I haven't played much of it. Dont have much time? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:913682209] in Bethesda G... [t:77243362]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>does anyone who has it dislike it? as often happens, there seems to be only people who don't have it laughing at it without having played it, and people who do have it who are desperate to avoid thinking negatively of the game they are playing/payed money for.</quote> I have it, but I haven't played much of it.</quote> Dont have much time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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