Current Events > 20 y/o Indiana Girl is SHOCKED her RAPIST gets NO Prison cause she CONSENTED!!

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SaithSayer
12/06/18 9:00:11 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
is this why people hate California? because you can't get away with awful shit like this?

Yeah that's exactly why people hate California...
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prettyprincess
12/06/18 9:19:37 AM
#102:


we live in a world where blindfold is perhaps the intro sex toy and yet people seem really confused that girl in boyfriends bed didnt immediately turn around or ask for id
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doggirl0_0
12/06/18 9:20:04 AM
#103:


Is California worse than Florida?
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Milkman5
12/06/18 9:25:24 AM
#104:


If she really didn't know it was him, then imo that should be some kind of crime
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Fam_Fam
12/06/18 9:36:01 AM
#105:


imo what really happened is that he did this scumbag thing, she went with it (i think its VERY unlikely she didn't know it wasn't her bf), and then got caught

after the fact she went back on it and called him out.

that all said, he should be punished, as it should be considered rape.
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Solid Sonic
12/06/18 9:37:37 AM
#106:


doggirl0_0 posted...
Is California worse than Florida?

I doubt that.
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Perascamin
12/06/18 9:41:06 AM
#107:


UnhndredDescole posted...
I thought it was a crime

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eston
12/06/18 9:48:21 AM
#108:


Fam_Fam posted...
imo what really happened is that he did this scumbag thing, she went with it (i think its VERY unlikely she didn't know it wasn't her bf), and then got caught

after the fact she went back on it and called him out.

that all said, he should be punished, as it should be considered rape.

From the story:
Donald even told police he knew Abigail thought he was her boyfriend and that was why she allowed him to have sex.

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SSMajinVegeta2
12/06/18 9:59:27 AM
#109:


HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW??

still is rape though. Straight up. Unless she just wanted an excuse to sleep w the dude that wasnt her bf.
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eston
12/06/18 10:10:27 AM
#110:


The impression I'm getting from the article (or what TC posted of it) is she woke up to this dude groping her, thought it was her bf, let him stick it in for a minute, and then got up to use the bathroom. It doesn't sound like they did it for very long, maybe not even to completion
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 10:14:20 AM
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So theres 110 posts in here, but do we have a link to the actual source? I dont see it in OP.
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Kineth
12/06/18 10:14:54 AM
#112:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
So theres 110 posts in here, but do we have a link to the actual source? I dont see it in OP.


Have you never been in a duckbear topic before?
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 10:17:57 AM
#113:


Kineth posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
So theres 110 posts in here, but do we have a link to the actual source? I dont see it in OP.


Have you never been in a duckbear topic before?

This. Actually reading the source might answer all of these questions, but where's the fun in that?
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 10:21:34 AM
#114:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/12/05/woman-tricked-into-sex-with-boyfriends-pal-exposes-loophole-in-rape-laws/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/7897576/donald-grant-ward-rape-fraud-abigal-finney-indiana/amp/

Not much different. Dunno why the gf is sleeping in the bfs dorm and his friend while the bf is in the gfs dorm alone. Almost wanting to be cucked or something.
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eston
12/06/18 10:22:41 AM
#115:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Not much different. Dunno why the gf is sleeping in the bfs dorm and his friend while the bf is in the gfs dorm alone. Almost wanting to be cucked or something.

Well now there's a detail I didn't pick up on
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SauI_Goodman
12/06/18 10:25:00 AM
#116:


How could you not know it's not your boyfriend...
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 10:28:52 AM
#117:


And honestly?

In Indiana, as with almost 40 states, rape is only legally when sex is compelled through force or threats, if the victim is mentally disabled and cant consent, or if he or she is unaware that the sex is occurring.


This seems reasonable. We cant have laws that jeopardize the innocent when women have so much sway already.

If you know several dude friends are sleeping over, maybe dont go fucking people who come behind you without making sure. The law cant protect from stupid.
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ninjarobot_22
12/06/18 10:29:44 AM
#118:


iClockwork posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
She has so many other senses to employ that could have clued her in that something was wrong but she didn't use a single one of them.

Its simple. She cheated, got caught, got dumped, angry.


Donald even told police he knew Abigail thought he was her boyfriend and that was why she allowed him to have sex.
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Kineth
12/06/18 10:30:01 AM
#119:


It's weird that a lot of you expect someone who just woke up would be fully cognizant.
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 10:30:31 AM
#120:


SSMajinVegeta2 posted...
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW??

still is rape though. Straight up. Unless she just wanted an excuse to sleep w the dude that wasnt her bf.

honestly based on the story, that doesn't seem likely
edit: that she meant to cheat or wanted an excuse to cheat
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 10:31:26 AM
#121:


Kineth posted...
It's weird that a lot of you expect someone who just woke up would be fully cognizant.

Unless she's sleeping with lube between her legs there's gonna be an awful lot of ample opportunity for her to turn around and look.
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Kineth
12/06/18 10:38:10 AM
#122:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Kineth posted...
It's weird that a lot of you expect someone who just woke up would be fully cognizant.

Unless she's sleeping with lube between her legs there's gonna be an awful lot of ample opportunity for her to turn around and look.


Look, it's understood that she could have handled it better. That's not being argued. She's a young college kid, still learning about the outside world, like people's tendencies and shit and was likely too trusting.

But that's not the fucking point. Don't let the dude off the hook for taking advantage of it. I mean, he fucked his friend's gf and it's only not rape because it's not codified. The eyeball test would say that's rape. A person being ignorant happens all the time and isn't as noteworthy as fucking raping somebody.
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 10:39:54 AM
#123:


Kineth posted...
But that's not the fucking point. Don't let the dude off the hook for taking advantage of it.


No one is claiming the dude isnt a scumbag. What would you suggest if he didnt technically break a law?
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 10:42:14 AM
#124:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Kineth posted...
But that's not the fucking point. Don't let the dude off the hook for taking advantage of it.


No one is claiming the dude isnt a scumbag. What would you suggest if he didnt technically break a law?

people are acting like she's to blame somehow. she's not. deal with it. the blame is entirely on that scumbag
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 10:46:16 AM
#125:


catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.
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Kineth
12/06/18 10:48:55 AM
#126:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Kineth posted...
But that's not the fucking point. Don't let the dude off the hook for taking advantage of it.


No one is claiming the dude isnt a scumbag. What would you suggest if he didnt technically break a law?


Uh, why are you asking me that. He got tried and found not guilty. Sucks, but that's just how it is.
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 10:50:01 AM
#127:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 10:59:55 AM
#128:


Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Kineth posted...
It's weird that a lot of you expect someone who just woke up would be fully cognizant.

Unless she's sleeping with lube between her legs there's gonna be an awful lot of ample opportunity for her to turn around and look.

he fucked his friend's gf and it's only not rape because it's not codified. The eyeball test would say that's rape.


cuttin_in_farm posted...
And honestly?

In Indiana, as with almost 40 states, rape is only legally when sex is compelled through force or threats, if the victim is mentally disabled and cant consent, or if he or she is unaware that the sex is occurring.


This seems reasonable. We cant have laws that jeopardize the innocent when women have so much sway already.

If you know several dude friends are sleeping over, maybe dont go fucking people who come behind you without making sure. The law cant protect from stupid.
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cuttin_in_farm
12/06/18 11:00:34 AM
#129:


catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 11:01:57 AM
#130:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.

fair enough I guess, but I don't think getting raped by a friend by saying she should have known is a good place to start
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 11:03:08 AM
#131:


catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.

fair enough I guess, but I don't think getting raped by a friend by saying she should have known is a good place to start. thank god I live in California not some backwater shithole where this is considered totally okay

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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 11:03:50 AM
#132:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.

Not a single person is defending the dude, because what he did is indefensible. But still, sex isn't something that just happens to you. I don't think it's out of the question to suggest that at a bare minimum you should be aware of who you're having it with. Unless you're on copious amounts of drugs then I don't see how you can be unaware of who's penis is inside of you.
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 11:06:09 AM
#133:


SaithSayer posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.

fair enough I guess, but I don't think getting raped by a friend by saying she should have known is a good place to start. thank god I live in California not some backwater shithole where this is considered totally okay

...What?

people have been saying in this topic "how do you not know that wasn't your bf?!" it's tone deaf to say the least
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 11:08:47 AM
#134:


I'm pretty sure a friend saying she should have known doesn't rape anybody. The way you worded that is hilarious.

Also it's a legitimate question. Then again I don't see how he DIDN'T get in trouble... she clearly falls under the heading of "mentally disabled and can't consent".
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Kineth
12/06/18 11:21:01 AM
#135:


A_Good_Boy posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the blame is entirely on that scumbag


This is wrong.

If you leave every door to your house unlocked, and a thief robs it, the thief did the crime yes.

But Im still gonna give you shit for being an idiot. The robber being bad is the obvious thing.

you're fighting the wrong battle. you should be giving people shit for being thiefs not for people being naiive


Thieves and people who do crime typically wont care if I try to persuade them not to.

Work on fortifying the innocents defenses instead of trying to weaken the scumbags offense is my logic.

Not a single person is defending the dude, because what he did is indefensible. But still, sex isn't something that just happens to you. I don't think it's out of the question to suggest that at a bare minimum you should be aware of who you're having it with. Unless you're on copious amounts of drugs then I don't see how you can be unaware of who's penis is inside of you.


What many of y'all are doing is using many more words to talk shit about the girl. I mean, if it were a different crime committed, but it's rape.

Also, here's a plausible way she'd be unaware. It was dark. She had just woken up and likely wasn't doing that much moving. Hell, she could have been going doggy the whole time.

It's also entirely possible that she thought she knew these people and trusted that the people that her boyfriend vouched for wouldn't be doing that. It doesn't take that much suspension of disbelief to see how it could have been possible that she'd not be completely aware of who's dick it was.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 11:23:30 AM
#136:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/12/05/woman-tricked-into-sex-with-boyfriends-pal-exposes-loophole-in-rape-laws/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/7897576/donald-grant-ward-rape-fraud-abigal-finney-indiana/amp/

Not much different. Dunno why the gf is sleeping in the bfs dorm and his friend while the bf is in the gfs dorm alone. Almost wanting to be cucked or something.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
12/06/18 3:09:21 PM
#137:


eston posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
Not much different. Dunno why the gf is sleeping in the bfs dorm and his friend while the bf is in the gfs dorm alone. Almost wanting to be cucked or something.

Well now there's a detail I didn't pick up on


Its almost like nothing in her story makes sense and she is obviously lying or something
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mrduckbear
12/07/18 7:15:47 PM
#138:


that's that. 80% say it's a crime!
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darkprince45
12/07/18 7:20:48 PM
#139:


If you read this post it seems like a pretty clear cut case of rape. Pretending to be bf in the dark.

I think theres more to this were not being told. There had to be some kind of cuckolding gone wrong situation
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mrduckbear
12/08/18 2:53:33 PM
#140:


hmm
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LepartialJury
12/09/18 9:56:03 PM
#141:


The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

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powerman1426
12/09/18 10:02:54 PM
#142:


LepartialJury posted...
The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

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_MorningStar
12/09/18 10:12:08 PM
#143:


Dude is a POS and deserves prison but, how did she not feel the difference in size?
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SaithSayer
12/10/18 4:34:21 AM
#144:


_MorningStar posted...
Dude is a POS and deserves prison but, how did she not feel the difference in size?

The guy was clearly Shang Tsung.
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darkphoenix181
12/10/18 1:59:38 PM
#145:


Fair next. This implies he spoke abd she supposedly couldn't tell he was not her bf?

Calling bs

Like is her the bf twin? He speaks and moans exactly thr same ?
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