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CornBarn
12/09/18 1:34:07 PM
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https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-declining-socialists-focus-on-beating-emmanuel-macron/

Pretty interesting read about the dying gasp of socialism in Europe and its last attempts to rile up brand new activists.

Note that Macron's socialist predecessor Francois Hollande's ended up with an approval rating of just 4%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Hollande#Approval_ratings
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NeonOctopus
12/09/18 1:43:21 PM
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JacquesArch
12/09/18 1:50:28 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.


Yeah, literally still better off than America.
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Anti-245
12/09/18 1:51:10 PM
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It's really incredible. Instead of talking about the failure of neoliberal centrism that was macron, they're talking about "socialism".
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JacquesArch
12/09/18 1:57:02 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
JacquesArch posted...
WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.


Yeah, literally still better off than America.


ya, if you think everything being expensive as hell, and no job prospects is living well, i guess so.


Why do you think everyone in Europe is unemployed?

Oh, because you don't know what you're talking about.
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Tmaster148
12/09/18 1:57:36 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
JacquesArch posted...
WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.


Yeah, literally still better off than America.


ya, if you think everything being expensive as hell, and no job prospects is living well, i guess so.


Doesn't sound much different for the US.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/09/18 1:58:31 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Only in America

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CornBarn
12/09/18 1:59:54 PM
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The EU has a much worse problem with youth unemployment and unemployment in general.

Cost of living is high too.
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JacquesArch
12/09/18 2:09:12 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
JacquesArch posted...
WhinyZach posted...
JacquesArch posted...
WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.


Yeah, literally still better off than America.


ya, if you think everything being expensive as hell, and no job prospects is living well, i guess so.


Why do you think everyone in Europe is unemployed?

Oh, because you don't know what you're talking about.


I don't know why I need to keep reminding people that I live in Europe.

American's work hard to keep their stereotype of being ignorant alive.

Tmaster148 posted...


Doesn't sound much different for the US.


Americans are just lazy, Europeans actually don't have jobs. There's not a lot of work here.


I don't care if you live in Europe or not, that doesn't shield you from ignorance. Do you know how little Trump supporters in America know about their own nation?
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Anti-245
12/09/18 2:13:55 PM
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The west in general is in decline and has been for awhile.
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ScazarMeltex
12/09/18 2:15:10 PM
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CornBarn posted...
The EU has a much worse problem with youth unemployment and unemployment in general.

Cost of living is high too.

And yet their rate homelessness and bankruptcy is well below ours. Especially people becoming bankrupt and homeless from medical bills.
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Damn_Underscore
12/09/18 2:16:33 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
The west in general is in decline and has been for awhile.


No it's not lol.

Thanks to technology, there has never been a better time to live in most developed countries.
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Tmaster148
12/09/18 2:17:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Anti-245 posted...
The west in general is in decline and has been for awhile.


No it's not lol.

Thanks to technology, there has never been a better time to live in most developed countries.


You do know that the West can be in decline while also being one of the better places to live in. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
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rikasa
12/09/18 2:18:00 PM
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I don't blame the French specifically but it's basically a prologue to how most societies are going to react when we start to make real effort against climate change. Basically there is no motherfucking hope for us.
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Anti-245
12/09/18 2:19:17 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Anti-245 posted...
The west in general is in decline and has been for awhile.


No it's not lol.

Thanks to technology, there has never been a better time to live in most developed countries.

They thought the same thing every time a crash happens. Look at 1929 and 2007 for example. Everything looks great on the outside but it's not that way on the inside.
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The Great Muta 22
12/09/18 2:24:50 PM
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The Yellow Vest protesters are pushing for far more "socialist" policies than anything else. Go look up their list of demands and realize that Macron is a corporate centrist who people only supported because the opposition was fucking Le Pen
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Hicks233
12/09/18 2:25:34 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment it would be better to not look at "Europe" or the EU, but individual nations like Norway, Denmark or the Netherlands. Then it can be successful.
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Anti-245
12/09/18 2:32:50 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment it would be better to not look at "Europe" or the EU, but individual nations like Norway, Denmark or the Netherlands. Then it can be successful.

Actually, they should look at Canada and UK since they have more similarities with America than scandanavian countries.
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CornBarn
12/09/18 2:49:28 PM
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@rikasa posted...
I don't blame the French specifically but it's basically a prologue to how most societies are going to react when we start to make real effort against climate change. Basically there is no motherfucking hope for us.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77285324
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s0nicfan
12/09/18 2:53:06 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
WhinyZach posted...
american's who want socialism, free schooling, free everything, just look at europe.

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment it would be better to not look at "Europe" or the EU, but individual nations like Norway, Denmark or the Netherlands. Then it can be successful.


Countries that aren't socialist.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/
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MuayThai85
12/09/18 11:53:03 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
The west in general is in decline and has been for awhile.


That's why I'm taking advantage of that Asian money while I can. $4,000usd/month + free apartment, insurance, $3,000 yearly bonus and a free round trip flight anywhere in the world. And that's only to start, I'll get about a 20% raise with my next contract.
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