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Questionmarktarius 12/13/18 10:40:20 AM #51:	Southernfatman posted... Even if everyone knows it's fake, if its done right it can work. Wrestling used to be a simulated athletic contest between wrestlers who had over the top personalities that you could take somewhat seriously. Now it's treated as just a show by both the promoters and what fans are left. See also: Lucha Underground. It's not even trying to be "real", and the overproduced soap-opera segments brutally murder kayfabe, but holy shit that Angelico ladder spot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnBpF98BfU" data-time=" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:914053548] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Even if everyone knows it's fake, if its done right it can work. Wrestling used to be a simulated athletic contest between wrestlers who had over the top personalities that you could take somewhat seriously. Now it's treated as just a show by both the promoters and what fans are left. </quote> See also: Lucha Underground. It's not even trying to be "real", and the overproduced soap-opera segments brutally murder kayfabe, but holy shit that Angelico ladder spot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnBpF98BfU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/13/18 10:42:46 AM #52:	I've always felt that the newest generation of stars largely has no capacity for cutting actually interesting promos. I always feel like the newer Superstars really just play in the shadows of giants like SCSA, The Rock, Ric Flair, Mankind, Jericho, Randy Savage, The UW. I will say, at least, that I felt CM Punk had a very real intensity with his promos that should resonate beyond the usual fanbase, but they failed to fully use his obvious star power. --- So I'm (not real) and I won't call you _//\|-\|\\_ And I want to talk about mature themes \|\|\|daily\|\|\| -> http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 \//\|'\|\\/ <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:914053653] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>I've always felt that the newest generation of stars largely has no capacity for cutting actually interesting promos. I always feel like the newer Superstars really just play in the shadows of giants like SCSA, The Rock, Ric Flair, Mankind, Jericho, Randy Savage, The UW. I will say, at least, that I felt CM Punk had a very real intensity with his promos that should resonate beyond the usual fanbase, but they failed to fully use his obvious star power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/13/18 10:44:51 AM #53:	Conflict posted... This doesn't mean anything honestly Def. not defending WWE's garbage product but they're still top dog w/ zero chance of anyone challenging them like WCW did in 1996. They're still making a ton of money and will be in a p. good position for the foreseeable future WCW was worth more than WWF back in the day at one point and then they got cocky lost everything. The same thing will happen to WWE if they don't shape up. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:914053728] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>This doesn't mean anything honestly Def. not defending WWE's garbage product but they're still top dog w/ zero chance of anyone challenging them like WCW did in 1996. They're still making a ton of money and will be in a p. good position for the foreseeable future</quote> WCW was worth more than WWF back in the day at one point and then they got cocky lost everything. The same thing will happen to WWE if they don't shape up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 12/13/18 10:50:10 AM #54:	The stars from the Attitude era got old and they never developed suitable replacements. With that said I like AJ Styles though. --- https://imgur.com/WTmIPt8 <cite>smoke_break posted [p:914053942] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>The stars from the Attitude era got old and they never developed suitable replacements. With that said I like AJ Styles though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 12/13/18 10:55:08 AM #55:	Well the internet has eliminated a huge amount of cost to startup promotions. Why try and woo the networks when YouTube will be happy to have it. I dont watch wrestling, but I get why people like it. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:914054143] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>Well the internet has eliminated a huge amount of cost to startup promotions. Why try and woo the networks when YouTube will be happy to have it. I dont watch wrestling, but I get why people like it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/13/18 10:59:03 AM #56:	smoke_break posted... The stars from the Attitude era got old and they never developed suitable replacements. With that said I like AJ Styles though. Repeat the Ministry of Darkness gimmick with Bray at the center. Keep the Shield together as an obnoxious clique. Turn Punk into an anti-McMahon rebel. Transform Cena into a popular asshole. All the parts were there. Vince and Trips just never put the pieces together. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:914054282] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoke_break posted...</cite> <quote>The stars from the Attitude era got old and they never developed suitable replacements. With that said I like AJ Styles though.</quote> Repeat the Ministry of Darkness gimmick with Bray at the center. Keep the Shield together as an obnoxious clique. Turn Punk into an anti-McMahon rebel. Transform Cena into a popular asshole. All the parts were there. Vince and Trips just never put the pieces together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/13/18 10:59:58 AM #57:	Southernfatman posted... KILBOTz posted... Jim Cornette needs to take over all of professional wrestling. Agreed. People shit on him and call him an old man who yells at clouds, but he's right 99% of the time. Even if everyone knows it's fake, if its done right it can work. Wrestling used to be a simulated athletic contest between wrestlers who had over the top personalities that you could take somewhat seriously. Now it's treated as just a show by both the promoters and what fans are left. WWE is just so corporate and sanitized that it's not enjoyable and too many Indy promotions are just straight up silly. Everyone is too busy trying to take the piss out of wrestling now that nobody besides the people who enjoy that want to watch it. Wrestling is just going to become more and more of a niche product. It's too much about doing crazy flips or doing silly "comedy" now. Yep, what I want is pro wrestling that treats it like serious athletic competition and then the sports entertainment fills in the gaps. Not the other way around like Vince likes. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:914054329] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>Jim Cornette needs to take over all of professional wrestling.</quote> Agreed. People shit on him and call him an old man who yells at clouds, but he's right 99% of the time. Even if everyone knows it's fake, if its done right it can work. Wrestling used to be a simulated athletic contest between wrestlers who had over the top personalities that you could take somewhat seriously. Now it's treated as just a show by both the promoters and what fans are left. WWE is just so corporate and sanitized that it's not enjoyable and too many Indy promotions are just straight up silly. Everyone is too busy trying to take the piss out of wrestling now that nobody besides the people who enjoy that want to watch it. Wrestling is just going to become more and more of a niche product. It's too much about doing crazy flips or doing silly "comedy" now.</quote> Yep, what I want is pro wrestling that treats it like serious athletic competition and then the sports entertainment fills in the gaps. Not the other way around like Vince likes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/13/18 11:03:36 AM #58:	Tyranthraxus posted... Conflict posted... This doesn't mean anything honestly Def. not defending WWE's garbage product but they're still top dog w/ zero chance of anyone challenging them like WCW did in 1996. They're still making a ton of money and will be in a p. good position for the foreseeable future WCW was worth more than WWF back in the day at one point and then they got cocky lost everything. The same thing will happen to WWE if they don't shape up. Do you have any links for that? I never saw any values. WCW was always bleeding money so I find it a bit surprising they were worth more. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:914054506] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>This doesn't mean anything honestly Def. not defending WWE's garbage product but they're still top dog w/ zero chance of anyone challenging them like WCW did in 1996. They're still making a ton of money and will be in a p. good position for the foreseeable future</quote> WCW was worth more than WWF back in the day at one point and then they got cocky lost everything. The same thing will happen to WWE if they don't shape up.</quote> Do you have any links for that? I never saw any values. WCW was always bleeding money so I find it a bit surprising they were worth more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 12/13/18 11:18:47 AM #59:	aren't they still making so much money even with this? Cornette sucks. He thinks kayfabe should exist and funny doesn't draw. --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ <cite>C_Pain posted [p:914055166] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>aren't they still making so much money even with this? Cornette sucks. He thinks kayfabe should exist and funny doesn't draw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 12/13/18 2:17:27 PM #60:	C_Pain posted... aren't they still making so much money even with this? Cornette sucks. He thinks kayfabe should exist and funny doesn't draw. The era of kayfabe is over, but Wrestlers could have kayfabe to some extent. I mean, during a long bloody fued or match it's kinda lame when they tweet or podcast and say how much they love working together or when they apologize when someone gets hurt in a match on Twitter. Funny wrestling can work too, but it's just that now most go too far with it and it comes off as very silly. Dick flips, thumbs up butts, invisible grenades, hypnotizing,and other stuff like that make wrestling look stupid. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:914064356] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>aren't they still making so much money even with this? Cornette sucks. He thinks kayfabe should exist and funny doesn't draw.</quote> The era of kayfabe is over, but Wrestlers could have kayfabe to some extent. I mean, during a long bloody fued or match it's kinda lame when they tweet or podcast and say how much they love working together or when they apologize when someone gets hurt in a match on Twitter. Funny wrestling can work too, but it's just that now most go too far with it and it comes off as very silly. Dick flips, thumbs up butts, invisible grenades, hypnotizing,and other stuff like that make wrestling look stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 12/13/18 2:30:28 PM #61:	Tfw smackdown womens divine is the hottest thing in main roster (arguably all) of wwe Becky Asuka Charlotte all killing it Becky by herself is enough reason to watch SD tbh Haven't watched raw in quite a while. Dont even check for spoilers anymore lmao --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:914065067] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>Tfw smackdown womens divine is the hottest thing in main roster (arguably all) of wwe Becky Asuka Charlotte all killing it Becky by herself is enough reason to watch SD tbh Haven't watched raw in quite a while. Dont even check for spoilers anymore lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/13/18 5:25:38 PM #62:	KobeSystem posted... Tfw smackdown womens divine is the hottest thing in main roster (arguably all) of wwe Becky Asuka Charlotte all killing it Becky by herself is enough reason to watch SD tbh Haven't watched raw in quite a while. Dont even check for spoilers anymore lmao Agreed tbqh. --- So I'm (not real) and I won't call you _//\|-\|\\_ And I want to talk about mature themes \|\|\|daily\|\|\| -> http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 \//\|'\|\\/ <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:914074232] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote><cite>KobeSystem posted...</cite> <quote>Tfw smackdown womens divine is the hottest thing in main roster (arguably all) of wwe Becky Asuka Charlotte all killing it Becky by herself is enough reason to watch SD tbh Haven't watched raw in quite a while. Dont even check for spoilers anymore lmao</quote> Agreed tbqh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 12/13/18 5:28:43 PM #63:	Becky Lynch and Daniel Bryan are the only reason to watch right now. everything else is incredibly bad, or incredibly stale. I've been on PPVs only for months now. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:914074383] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>Becky Lynch and Daniel Bryan are the only reason to watch right now. everything else is incredibly bad, or incredibly stale. I've been on PPVs only for months now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/13/18 9:29:14 PM #64:	I'm watching 205 Live on Hulu, first time since after WM 2017. It's still good, wrestling centric show. Gallagher vs Cedric Alexander for the main event of this ep (old ep). I'm pumped. Gallagher rules. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:914086787] in WWE rating... [t:77294744]...</cite> <quote>I'm watching 205 Live on Hulu, first time since after WM 2017. It's still good, wrestling centric show. Gallagher vs Cedric Alexander for the main event of this ep (old ep). I'm pumped. Gallagher rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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