Board 8 > 2019 Baseball Topic #1 Opening Day #2

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Don't look now, but the Marlins are 12-5 over their last 17. (Also they set a new franchise record with their 11-run 5th inning.)
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neonreaper posted...

No way dude, you're like the Sox from last year. It doesn't matter what the score is, what the situation is, who is hurt who is playing... you always feel like the Yankees are gonna come back.

Meanwhile the Sox best outlook is having a 5-17 Chris Sale starting the wild card game on the road, complete fumes, somehow we get a lead only to realize we never signed a closer so we blow it in the ninth. I'd say that's our high water mark this year.

Like, Cora was asked about the Sunday night win, and what that kind of win might do for the Red Sox, and he just gushed about the Yankees. Your team is hungry, they wanna win and have all sorts of clubhouse drama about Donald Trump in 2020 that ruins their season.
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kimbrel to cubs

*insert wilpon rage here that the mets didnt sign kimbrel*
you know how that ^ goes by now so you don't need it

also the mets activated cano today and he was limping down the first base line alike after his very first AB, and he came out of the game by the 5th inning

Are you trying to tell me the Mets probably activated a player from injury too soon OMG NO WAY THAT NEVER HAS HAPPENED EVER

*more wilpon rage etc*
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booth confirms Cano came out of the game with "left quad tightness" which is exactly the injury he went on the DL for 10 days ago. He literally was activated today and played like 4 innings of total baseball before coming out with the SAME INJURY. I will remind you, the Mets (aka ownership) said he did not need to play in any rehab games.

It is comical how simultaneously villainous and incompetent the wilpons are to rush a guy back from an injury without any rehab games only for him to get immediately hurt with the same injury
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Kimbrel's deal with Cubs is 3 years , 45 Mil.

why didn't this deal happen in january again? Was it really like an 80th overall draft pick that prevented this?
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How do you feel about your new ace, Jason Vargas?
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oh yeah i suppose i should talk about the good thing too huh lol

his ERA is 3.57 on the season now

I did say in the offseason i was higher on him than most to be fair! He's been great though. hope he can keep it up. Last year, when he came back from injury in August, and he put on the VARGY uniform for the Players Weekend, he was great those last 2 months. Really this year he just had the 1 cataclysmic start, and like one other bad one, and he's been good besides that. Now that he's shown he won't fall apart 3 times through the lineup, he doesn't need a leash anymore

(for those unaware he just threw a CGSHO, though it was just vs the worst offensive team in the NL)
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keuchel to braves on a 1 year deal. sigh.

I wish my team wouldnt claim it was trying to win and then go out and do literally nothing to back it up except trade prospects away for no reason.
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the NL East is a complete trash fire for the taking right now. any team that was able to add Kimbrel or Keuchel (without having to give up any players) would be getting a massive boost. You would think it would be the only one of those 5 times that loudly promised to "win now", yet has not done a thing to show it yet.

love to watch other teams in my team's division truly improve their roster while our GM says "adding hector santiago to our bullpen is a big improvement"
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WiggumFan267 posted...

keuchel to braves on a 1 year deal. sigh.

Thus ends a truly bizarre non-signing saga by the Yankees
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I'm quite surprised they didn't sign Keuchel. The Yankees absolutely do need a starting pitcher though. They'll have to make a trade for somebody. I wonder who.
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As much as I hate him being on the Braves, it would be a travesty if he had to shave his beard
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WiggumFan267 posted...

As much as I hate him being on the Braves, it would be a travesty if he had to shave his beard

ThisIsWhyYouLose
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Also will be nice to have Didi back in the lineup.
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brodie van wagenen, before the season. "We will win today, we will win in the future"
hard to win when you have no bullpen (or willing to invest in one)
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It's really a shame that Michael Conforto has to have his career wasted playing for such an irrelevant loser franchise.
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it's the Wilpons fault. everything is their fault. If they weren't so not just cheap and miserly (because so many owners are cheap), but also incompetent, meddling, vindictive, and ego-driven, they'd be a legit strong team, because they have the talent. it's just ruined by horrific and poorly-driven decision making.
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the most basic shit like, bringing back Cano from the DL. he plays 1/3 of a game, leaves with the same exact injury, and he's still been sitting here taking up a roster spot and hasn't played in 3 more games now. its LITERALLY just a 10 day DL, stop wasting a fucking roster spot. This is a Wilpon decision 100%. "But if a household name like Robinson Cano isn't on the roster, people won't want to come out and buy a ticket" - this is guaranteed what their reasoning was for activating him too early and then not putting him back on the DL. They did this with Cespedes and literally called him a liar when he said he needed surgery, activated him anyway, he got "re"-injured after one game and then got surgery 2 months later (they actually knew he needed the surgery all along, like 1 month before that incident, and had he had it as soon as they knew, he'd be on the 2019 opening day roster).

Like, this is hwo this garbage franchise is run. and mets fans are so stupidly loyal, we are so much more deserving than having this human scum (which btw they are actually horrible human beings too- they fired a woman for being pregnant and not married) run a baseball team.

But there's nothing that can be done. We are fucking cursed with them forever. They have survived the same scandals that have literally forced out other owners. Nothing will save us. We are doomed forever. I'm never going to see them win a championship and it's all thanks to one fucking disgusting excuse for a person.
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so FOH with this "loser franchise" shit, don't overgeneralize like that. there is a reason they are made of shit, and it's because people are just like "oh lolmets same old same old" without failing to realize what the real problem actually is. if the national media actually was worth their salt they'd report on the true awfulness of this situation properly instead of shrugging it off. the wilpons get away so scot-free because they have the mets media in their palm, they can cut off all access at will. most of the national media doesn't touch it either. there's been more articles about them lately, but they're not pointed enough. Every single baseball reporter who has not made an article like "The Wilpons need to be forced out to sell the team yesterday" is not doing their job properly. It's a joke that this is allowed to happen.
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(the mets actually won a series vs the rockies whoaf)
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mets gonna get swept in this doubleheader, mega lol if the yankees somehow manage to lose a game here

also i'm sure there will be tons of cheapass homers as always
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I think they'll split. Yankees should handily win both games, but I don't necessarily think they will.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I think they'll split.

if you say so... sloppy baseball everywhere in that first one. . the mets are bad, but they play especially sloppy baseball against the yankees way more often. got the ace Vargas going in the nightcap though, lol

I'm gonna blame that on the Wilpons too who put so much extra pressure on winning those games, like they matter more or something. they're driven by nothing but spite.
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also cano is playing at AAA tonight.
Why is he playing literally two days after going right back on the IL after re-aggravating the same injury?
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WiggumFan267 posted...

also cano is playing at AAA tonight.
Why is he playing literally two days after going right back on the IL after re-aggravating the same injury?

just found out jeff wilpon is literally in attendance at that AAA game. not even joking. these owners absolutely love forcing their big-name players to play through injuries. No exaggeration. They did it with pedro Martinez, billy wagner, Cespedes... and the same thing happens every time.
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oh, right. a good thing too.

i love pete alonso and jeff mcneil.
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a split it is. yankees literally lost one of two to the mets, geez, not a good look. TBF, vargas is a stud.
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I am one more win away at Boston from thinking the Rangers have a chance at the 2nd wild card
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jesus christ, this shit literlaly only happens to the mets.
the mets have a 4-2 lead over the cardinals, rain coming down hard. 8th inning just finished. diaz is ready. comes out to throw warmup pitches it starts raining harder. they're about to put the tarp on. rain lets up a bit and they decide not to, after diaz got warmed up. 15 minute delay to clean up the field a bit. diaz blows the lead. to extras. then they immediately put the tarp on.

like are you fucking kidding? this is pretty similar to that awful game the mets blew to the padres after the rain delay in 2015, where again they had a 2 run lead with 1 out to go, and a rain delay interjected and they blew the game after the rain delay, and then they delayed it a second time. its like literally exactly the same.

this shit only happens to the mets. prove me wrong.
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Dr_Football posted...

I am one more win away at Boston from thinking the Rangers have a chance at the 2nd wild card

where the fuck did this season get derailed so hard

I was 100% convinced this team was going to lose more than 100 games just two months ago and now they're five over .500 and if the season ended today they would have a wildcard spot

Reg posted...

Wigs thinks the Rangers are 11 wins better than they were last season lmao

Pretty sure that's at least 12 wins too many

:thinking:
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but yeah, edwin diaz has been pretty bad. he is a huge reason why the mets have underperformed this year.

Like ive said since day 1, that cano/diaz trade is an epic disaster and is going to wind up as one of those top 5 all time worst MLB trades you see on those lists, like 20 years from now.

it's all because ownership refused to give a budget to actually spend on relievers and had to force a trade for one instead. Fuck the wilpons.
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WiggumFan267 posted...

jesus christ, this shit literlaly only happens to the mets.
the mets have a 4-2 lead over the cardinals, rain coming down hard. 8th inning just finished. diaz is ready. comes out to throw warmup pitches it starts raining harder. they're about to put the tarp on. rain lets up a bit and they decide not to, after diaz got warmed up. 15 minute delay to clean up the field a bit. diaz blows the lead. to extras. then they immediately put the tarp on.

like are you fucking kidding? this is pretty similar to that awful game the mets blew to the padres after the rain delay in 2015, where again they had a 2 run lead with 1 out to go, and a rain delay interjected and they blew the game after the rain delay, and then they delayed it a second time. its like literally exactly the same.

this shit only happens to the mets. prove me wrong.

Wins certainly don't come easy for them. It's unfortunate how much trouble Diaz has been having. It was too much to expect him to be as great as he was last year, but still he was expected to be one of the better closers this year. Looks like it was indeed a pretty awful trade.
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WiggumFan267 posted...

Reg posted...

Wigs thinks the Rangers are 11 wins better than they were last season lmao

Pretty sure that's at least 12 wins too many

:thinking:

I have no fucking idea dude

The team lost Beltre (Admittedly, he was old). They lost almost all of their pitching rotation (Minor was the #4 guy last year for a reason). Profar (Who could've easily been the #2 guy on the team after Elvis if the team bothered finding a role for him) was traded. The only positive I can see is that this team made is that all of the young guys had another year under their belts. There is literally no reason to think this patched together nonsense would make a team even one win better than last year's dumpster fire, let alone be one that looks statistically decent.

And the Rangers are still having their perrenial closer issues too <_<

like, keep in mind I'm not complaining about this in the slightest

I'm just

in shock

I don't have any fucking clue how this is working, especially in the context of last year being so bad

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Wins certainly don't come easy for them. It's unfortunate how much trouble Diaz has been having. It was too much to expect him to be as great as he was last year, but still he was expected to be one of the better closers this year. Looks like it was indeed a pretty awful trade.

Most closers dont have back to back great years. Even with a very good diaz, they were still ultra-shallow in the pen and didn't address it. That trade is bad but not awful if they add a bunch of other solid closers. they didn't and they had a chance until as late as last week to do so. it is very clear there is no priority to win, and that exact trade is proof of that.

Reg posted...

WiggumFan267 posted...

Reg posted...

Wigs thinks the Rangers are 11 wins better than they were last season lmao

Pretty sure that's at least 12 wins too many

:thinking:

I have no fucking idea dude

The team lost Beltre (Admittedly, he was old). They lost almost all of their pitching rotation (Minor was the #4 guy last year for a reason). Profar (Who could've easily been the #2 guy on the team after Elvis if the team bothered finding a role for him) was traded. The only positive I can see is that this team made is that all of the young guys had another year under their belts. There is literally no reason to think this patched together nonsense would make a team even one win better than last year's dumpster fire, let alone be one that looks statistically decent.

And the Rangers are still having their perrenial closer issues too <_<

i more had them higher because there's a lot of bad and mediocre teams in the AL that the rangers would get to see a lot. I figured a lot of it would be a mediocre-fest. I think I also was short too many wins when I did everyones numbers so I had to add a bunch somewhere and I think a number of those went to the rangers lol
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Anyway wins are also hard to come by for the Yankees now too. They need starters desperately at this point. Having a very good bullpen is nice, but all it takes is for one guy to be off his game to ruin it. Usually I think Yankee fans overreact to a lot of things, but this particular issue is one I do share with them.

Also, in other baseball news Ohtani hit for the cycle.
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mets lost the suspended game from yesterday in 15 minutes after it resumed. went 1 2 3 bottom 9. they left diaz in to pitch in the tie game in the 10th, gives up a run. mets go 1 2 3 ib bottom of the 10th game over.

what a fucking dreadful loss.

so many fucking losses are like this

fuck being a mets fan

fuck caring

fuck life

fuck
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FUCK THE GODDAMN WILPONS FOREVER

miserable fucking assholes
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game 2.
mets were down 4-2. they actually made a great comeback and went up 5-4 in the 8th. and then. familia gave up 4 runs like immediately. solo homer and a 3 run homer.

why is every single game lost in such depressing fashion -_-
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Eduardo Escobar of the Dbacks donated $2000 to my nephew's cancer fund. Great guy.
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ENCARNACION TRADED TO THE YANKEES

Holy what the fuck I don't know the details but WHAT
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I would assume of one the guys rehabbing got hurt or something, since he'd probably DH
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Or they are going to flip him for a pitcher? This is crazy
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improving their offense and they can still improve their pitching

must be nice having ownership that wants to win and knows to not get in the way.
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oh my fucking god.

with the mets actually in control of a game tonight for once (which of course rarely happens, or they blow it anyway, so we'll still see there), syndergaard is taken out by the trainer, limping off the mound... obvious hamstring injury

someone why. why does NOTHING EVER FUCKING GO RIGHT

even when sometime good is happenign SOMETHING BAD HAS TO ALWAYS HAPPEN WITH IT

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. WITHOUT. EXCEPTION.

we are NEVER allowed to enjoy something good without something worse lurking waiting to happen immediately

god.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Or they are going to flip him for a pitcher? This is crazy

Or they're planning on using Frazier as a trade piece.

WiggumFan267 posted...

improving their offense and they can still improve their pitching

must be nice having ownership that wants to win and knows to not get in the way.

There are a number of Yankee fans who would disagree with you here. A lot of them seem to think Hal Steinbrenner is Wilpon levels of cheap. Not going after Keuchel is definitely suspect, but Cashman makes far more good moves than bad moves, so I'm not going to blame ownership too much.

Also, Mets barely eked out a win there.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

A lot of them seem to think Hal Steinbrenner is Wilpon levels of cheap.

and those fans would be either entitled dicks or morons. you can't be serious that fans actually think the yankees ownership is cheap? Like that's a joke, right?

the mets tried to give away their 5 run 8th inning lead for the 3rd time in 3 weeks, yeah. they did not, but syndergaard still got hurt, so its still can never enjoy anything.

The game ended on an absolutely crazy play though. I don't know if I can do it justice, look it up. The Mets are very fortunate to have not had the game tied up
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Still gonna defend these NL rules Wigs?
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yes? literally anyone can get hurt swinging. so why have anyone bat? if he didnt get hurt batting he'd just get hurt throwing a pitch next inning anyway, it makes literally no difference. theres plenty of dumb reasons to not want pitchers batting but because they can get hurt while batting is the dumbest, its selection bias. "judge got hurt swinging, so he shouldnt be allowed to bat either." dont be dense.

anyway , yeah vargas got hurt. mets are now down 2 pitchers on back to back days and have literally no replacements for either of them. its almost like having literally 0 backup starters and also skimping on the bullpen is a bad idea. Sell The Team.
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