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xp1337
05/18/19 8:41:23 PM
#451:


I guess I'm not too surprised by you apparently picking Laura (man you and dowolf first emma now this) but I'll admit I thought you'd like Towa more. Unless you do and just never mentioned it?
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LeonhartFour
05/18/19 8:43:20 PM
#452:


I mean, Towa is fine. I'm not into mini moes that much though. I could've gotten Emma, too, but I didn't take her on the bike ride, so oh well.
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xp1337
05/18/19 8:49:39 PM
#453:


LeonhartFour posted...
I mean, Towa is fine. I'm not into mini moes that much though. I could've gotten Emma, too, but I didn't take her on the bike ride, so oh well.

You're past the festival? Because you can triage things with tickets given you have 6 of them. I figured you weren't because... well I expected some more comments if so. The bike event is just one of 3 ways to qualify someone for having their final bond event.
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LeonhartFour
05/18/19 8:51:49 PM
#454:


Oh, I thought you said I had to take them on the bike event, so I thought Laura was my only option since she was the one I took.
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Mac Arrowny
05/18/19 8:54:04 PM
#455:


Towa's not as good as she could've been. Was a bit disappointed they didn't do more with her.
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xp1337
05/18/19 8:57:55 PM
#456:


LeonhartFour posted...
Oh, I thought you said I had to take them on the bike event, so I thought Laura was my only option since she was the one I took.

Oh, sorry! No. Aside from the link level thing (so you can't ignore someone all game and then just magically take them on a bike ride and unlock it) it's more like the game marks certain events as "special"

"special" events are: Their Chapter 6 Bond Event (Chapter 5 for Towa), the Bike Event, and also "spend at least 2 tickets on them at the festival." As long as you did any of those with a character, it counts.

So anyone you used a bond point on in Chapter 6 will be available as long as their link level is high enough. So will whoever you took on the bike event. And also anyone you used 2+ tickets on. Again, as long as their link level is high enough which isn't that a high a bar for most of the characters. From a min-max standpoint you could intentionally spread that over like 9-10 characters. Realistically you'll probably have some overlap so it's more like 4-6.
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LeonhartFour
05/18/19 9:21:58 PM
#457:


Well, either way, the choice is ultimately Laura or Emma.

Quite the dilemma, really.
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 1:35:46 PM
#458:


Time to save the world so we can have our concert.

Also, it talked about a potential Awakener again like it did with the first door, although it seemed to be reacting to Elise then. My first thought was that Rean was the Awakener because of his special power, but it didn't react to him the first time. The only ones who weren't there the first time through were Crow and Millium, so it might be one of them...? Who knows.
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 4:12:57 PM
#459:


Chapter 7 complete with 41 AP and a grade of S. I finished just 10 AP short of the top rank.

Also I didn't realize this was secretly a game about Gundams.
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xp1337
05/19/19 6:36:49 PM
#460:


There's 10 AP extra to spare in the game, so you missed 20 AP overall. That also means that even if you play perfectly you don't reach the top rank and get its award (a really good accessory) until that summary there... after Realm of the Great Shadow lol.

Also, surprise you were playing Xenogears no Kiseki all along!
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 9:57:22 PM
#461:


Oh man, i just saw that Rocko's Modern Life (including the movie they've been teasing for two years now) is coming to Netflix (Invader Zim, too, but who cares about that).
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xp1337
05/19/19 11:07:07 PM
#462:


LeonhartFour posted...
Invader Zim, too, but who cares about that

you take that back
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 12:59:04 AM
#463:


well all of that was a thing that certainly happened

unfortunately I don't have time to finish tonight even though I know I'm near the end

oh well
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xp1337
05/20/19 1:02:33 AM
#464:


hahaha
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LordoftheMorons
05/20/19 2:46:51 PM
#465:


Ugh who decided that an attack that makes you lose 20% of your money was a totally fine thing to let random enemies do

I cant remember if this was a thing in Persona too or just an SMT-specific annoyance
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LordoftheMorons
05/20/19 2:51:16 PM
#466:


Also woah Ive gotten a street pass at home twice the past two days, and the persons last played software is DGS

Guess theres another Ace Attorney fan in my apartment building?
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BK_Sheikah00
05/20/19 2:58:12 PM
#467:


I do remember you can lose a lot of money from confusion but iirc you get (most of) it back if you win?
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 6:59:28 PM
#468:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Also woah Ive gotten a street pass at home twice the past two days, and the persons last played software is DGS

Guess theres another Ace Attorney fan in my apartment building?


That's pretty impressive.

Also, it seems that user SaveEstelle is the only person on the entire internet who was satisfied with the final episode of Game of Thrones.
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Mac Arrowny
05/20/19 7:21:56 PM
#469:


LeonhartFour posted...


Also, it seems that user SaveEstelle is the only person on the entire internet who was satisfied with the final episode of Game of Thrones.


Other than a bunch of B8ers, I suppose.
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xp1337
05/20/19 8:28:13 PM
#470:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Ugh who decided that an attack that makes you lose 20% of your money was a totally fine thing to let random enemies do

I cant remember if this was a thing in Persona too or just an SMT-specific annoyance

I don't think it was a thing in Persona unless you count that sometimes when you're confused you waste your turn throwing money away. The amount is random, but sometimes it's quite high.

LeonhartFour posted...

Also, it seems that user SaveEstelle is the only person on the entire internet who was satisfied with the final episode of Game of Thrones.

poor user saveestelle

it seems, in the end, he was unable to break the shackles this show had on his heart

And yeah, over in the B8 GoT topic it feels like half are okay with the ending so =/

~~~

I also finished Pillars of Eternity back on... Saturday? Really great game. Though I was a little annoyed that it turned out my PS4 decided it couldn't play the game without crashing when I was probably 80% of the way through.

Started Pillars of Eternity II today. At first I didn't notice the Low/Medium/High Graphics selector and just saw the bunch of individual options you could toggle. I turned a few of them off and thought "well hopefully this will be okay." ...Then when I started it was playing at like 0.1 FPS lmao. I think it defaults to the high graphics setting because once I set it to low things were a lot better.

I think the game eat one of my saves though. It has 3 rotating auto-saves, and I usually have 2-3 rotating hard saves in most games I play. I had 2 here and at one point there was only 1. I guess it's possible I somehow hit delete on it at some point instead of save on accident but seeing as how this is apparently a known issue I'm guessing not. Hopefully not a big deal going forward (the game's rotating auto-saves are honestly pretty sufficient unless you want to back up a decent bit) but it's got me a bit nervous!

tbqh, half the reason I started up PoE II instead of considering waiting for CS2 or something is because I've heard more stories about technical issues and I just wanted to make sure my computer didn't like explode upon launching the game. >_>

A lot of the changes it made seem really, really great and are systems I've wished for in most games though!
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 8:37:02 PM
#471:


Well, I'm not reading the B8 topics or anything. I'm just going by what I've seen from my friends and from social media today.
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xp1337
05/20/19 8:38:55 PM
#472:


Right. I understand. The B8 topic is probably the most positive place about it I've seen! I've been seeing what you're seeing everywhere else.
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 8:46:17 PM
#473:


Anyway, I've been slowly reading that Drama CD side story, and THAT is where they decide to give Rean's backstory about the first time his power awakened that the game keeps hinting at? Seriously? That's so bad.

Well, whatever. It's been a long day, and I'm finally ready to settle down and finish this game.
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xp1337
05/20/19 8:49:58 PM
#474:


Datamining showed a lot of resources that imply that the Ymir trip was supposed to be in the game but was eventually just cut for time.

and yeah it's pretty bad to have it stuffed there

Thankfully the CS2 Drama CD isn't really important... unless CS3 makes it important I guess.
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LordoftheMorons
05/20/19 8:56:12 PM
#475:


LeonhartFour posted...
Also, it seems that user SaveEstelle is the only person on the entire internet who was satisfied with the final episode of Game of Thrones.

I was relatively fine with the ending given what had already happened prior to that point and the fact that my expectations weren't that high (it was better than I was expecting after episode 5)
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 9:36:42 PM
#476:


suddenly I'm playing Persona

can this game decide what RPG it wants to be yet
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xp1337
05/20/19 9:41:59 PM
#477:


LeonhartFour posted...
suddenly I'm playing Persona

can this game decide what RPG it wants to be yet

"Looking cool, Rean!"
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 9:51:50 PM
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 10:21:36 PM
#479:


Trails of Cold Steel beated

Whoa title screen has a new effect now

Anyway, I'll give some more thoughts (and character rankings) in a little bit, but as far as the last stretch goes, it wasn't much of a surprise that C turned out to be Crow. The big surprise was that Vita turned out to be the new (and hopefully much less crappy) Weissmann. Also, I'm thinking it's possible Osborne isn't dead yet since they didn't pronounce him dead on the spot, so we might still see him again. I fully expected the game to end on a cliffhanger after the way Trails FC ended, and it certainly did not disappoint.
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pyresword
05/20/19 10:31:20 PM
#480:


Vita is actually one of my favorite Trails characters. Not sure that's a common opinion but I think she's really great.
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xp1337
05/20/19 10:38:34 PM
#481:


Haha the last stretch goes from 0 to 100 in an instant.

I've always really liked the atmosphere of the final day. From the slideshow lead in reporting about Garrelia and the SE/Music background that comes with, and I've always loved the decision to change the background music for Thors/Trista to Path of Spirits really does wonders for the atmosphere. Also love how the Crow investigation plays out. You can optionally follow his trail all the way into the train station in what's the only time you can actually enter it outside field studies but despite it sounding like he was there the trail goes cold there and they don't have the time to investigate further (plus Millium's reactions the whole time as she's piecing it together)

Vita as the Second Anguis is a fun reveal too on top of the "holy ****" of a Glorious-class airship just dropping in to wreck Heimdallr. Sharon being an Enforcer is obvious at this point but her "official" reveal is great too.


LeonhartFour posted...
The big surprise was that Vita turned out to be the new (and hopefully much less crappy) Weissmann.

The fun thing is you can actually go back to 3rd and: knowing now that Vita is the 2nd Anguis read Star Door 14 knowing it's her there.
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LeonhartFour
05/20/19 10:45:29 PM
#482:


Yeah, I ended up trailing him into the train station at the end there.

I also chose Laura at the end of the festival, but I went back and did Emma and Crow (my other two options) just so I could unlock the trophies.

Oh right, I can watch that Cold Steel II trailer now.
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xp1337
05/20/19 10:53:15 PM
#483:


Also, you now know the one scene I need user SaveEstelle to see just to hear his reaction: DOTH THOU DESIRE THE POWER?

like if for no other reason than that he needs to play 3rd and CS1. it will all be worth it just for that moment
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 12:04:14 PM
#484:


Okay, I finished up that Drama CD script (seriously, that content shouldn't have been stuffed away into a side story), so now I think I can give my final thoughts on the game (just in time to close out the Cold Steel Edition, no less).

Much like The Force Awakens did with the original Star Wars, I feel like Cold Steel copies a lot of the same story beats as Trails FC, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It seems reminiscent of a lot of different RPGs in various ways, but in terms of presentation and atmosphere, it actually reminded me a lot of Skies of Arcadia. Some of the songs even have a similar sound to them, at least to me. Trails SC is still far and away the best game in the series I've played thus far, but I'd probably put Cold Steel 1 on par with Trails FC at the very least.

Now it's time for character rankings!

Rean > Laura > Emma > Olivert > Fie > Sara > Jusis > Sharon > Crow > Rufus > Gaius > Neithardt > Vita > Claire > Elliot > Victor > Alisa > Patrick > George > Towa > Elise > Vandyck > Machias > Angelica > Vulcan > Gideon > Alfin > Millium > Scarlet > Irina

Something like that. I won't add anyone to the female character rankings just yetsince Cold Steel II is just around the corner.
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pyresword
05/21/19 12:28:57 PM
#485:


Some of those rankings hurt me.

I still have my playthrough topic saved so I'll see if I can find and repost my rankings at this point.

It might be that I only did character rankings after CS2 though in which case I'll just hold off.
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 12:30:31 PM
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/19 1:29:23 PM
#487:


At least you have Elise and Alfin fairly low. Those two are really overrated for whatever reason. They'd be much better characters without their crushes on Rean, but I guess some people like that stuff.
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pyresword
05/21/19 2:14:53 PM
#488:


Alfin and Elise are my top 2 preferred pairings for Rean :(
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 2:37:07 PM
#489:


Sorry, I can only handle one shiptease of sister and adopted brother per series.

And Alfin is no Kloe.
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 3:07:30 PM
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/19 3:10:12 PM
#491:


The harem aspects are probably the biggest flaw of ToCS and the game would've been much better if it just had Rean x Alisa with no other girls interested in him (they can have their own pairings with other guys).
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 3:12:45 PM
#492:


Rean/Alisa no thanks

it's like saying Symphonia should've just settled for Lloyd/Colette

well Alisa's not as bad as Colette but she's the most boring main girl (Millium doesn't count)
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pyresword
05/21/19 3:15:05 PM
#493:


Well I mean generally I agree with that, but that isn't an issue I associate with any particular character because I think it would require more substantial changes to the game's story itself and not just making particular characters not be romantically interested in Rean.
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/19 3:30:08 PM
#494:


Huh? The story wouldn't change at all by not having it be a harem, and there are a few scenes where the game treats Alisa as the main love interest.

Having no romance at all would be fine too.

Or are you talking about the having other romances part? That would've taken some work, yeah.
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pyresword
05/21/19 3:36:20 PM
#495:


Well, I think it would be a very weak and un-compelling romance if there were zero changes made to the story. And my issue is not that there's a harem strictly speaking, but more that romance appears to be a significant part of the story while the harem aspect makes all of the candidate romances individually feel underdeveloped.

If there were many romance options as is currently the case, but all of them were well developed and fully realized romances as in a visual novel or something, then I'd be okay with that. (Practically this would be very hard, but I'm talking in hypotheticals here)

Cutting the romance aspect entirely would also address my concern, so I agree on that.
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 4:01:38 PM
#496:


Mac Arrowny posted...
and there are a few scenes where the game treats Alisa as the main love interest.


Well, Alisa (and Elise, stay away from girls with "lis" in their names is the moral of the story here) is the one who gets clearly jealous when another girl appears to show interest in him, at any rate, but she's a tsundere.

Either way, Cold Steel certainly didn't feel like a harem game or one where the romance is even a major part of the story. It's mostly in there for some light fun. Nothing ever comes of any of it, at least in the first game. It certainly wasn't at Persona levels, if nothing else.
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 7:06:26 PM
#497:


I finally received user SaveEstelle's final episode review for Game of Thrones and it is every bit as user SaveEstelle as you would expect it to be
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Mac Arrowny
05/21/19 7:06:51 PM
#498:


Would you be able to post it here?
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LeonhartFour
05/21/19 7:09:11 PM
#499:


Well, it was several screenshots long, but I can try to post them in the next topic.
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05/21/19 7:09:20 PM
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