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TheRock1525
05/18/19 6:33:39 PM
#202:


Firefly Fun House gets its newest member: baby Knash Rotunda!
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_PandaMaster_
05/18/19 7:57:15 PM
#203:


Remember to thank Kevin Nash for allowing Bray the honor of naming his child after him.
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TheRock1525
05/18/19 9:56:17 PM
#204:


PAC vs. Hangman Page is cancelled because PAC refuses to job now that he's Dragon Gate champion.
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NBIceman
05/18/19 9:58:42 PM
#205:


Do we know it was actually PAC's problem? Or is it possible it was DG that stepped in?
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TheRock1525
05/18/19 10:00:00 PM
#206:


From the Observer:

With PAC's regular matches in the U.K., its known that because he takes his status as world champion with Dragon Gate seriously, he has not agreed to any losses since winning the Open the Dream Gate title and to protect that has done 30:00 draws with Zack Sabre Jr. and Will Ospreay.
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NBIceman
05/18/19 10:01:55 PM
#207:


Then why did he wait until a week before the PPV to say anything?

To me it makes more sense that Dragon Gate saw the AEW TV deal, realized that AEW was a bigger deal than they initially thought, and got a little squirrely.
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TheRock1525
05/18/19 11:12:00 PM
#208:


I hope this doesn't become a bigger problem in AEW's "more creative freedom" approach. Like they should have probably hammered this out when they first decided to promote this match.
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Jakyl25
05/18/19 11:25:42 PM
#209:


TheRock1525 posted...
I hope this doesn't become a bigger problem in AEW's "more creative freedom" approach. Like they should have probably hammered this out when they first decided to promote this match.


Well they still did the match at a U.K. indie with a non-finish, and AEW is going to put it out there for free so you can still see it. They just decided not to do a non-finish on the PPV, and according to Dave their philosophy is to never do any on PPVs
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ZeroSignal620
05/19/19 7:58:52 AM
#210:


My picks tonight

Drew
Mandy
Rollins (DQ, Brock interferes)
Kofi
Joe
Lacey (DQ, Becky retains)
Charlotte
Miz
Reigns
(Pre Show) Nese
(Pre Show) Bryan/Rowan
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Steiner
05/19/19 8:16:42 AM
#211:


Sunday means it's my Match of the Week list time! We had the first week of Best of the Super Juniors, the last two nights of Super Strong Style 16, Rev Pro's Epic Encounter, a hell of an IMPACT main event, and a sub-par week of Network shows. Also, if you're into it, Bret Hart vs. Tom Magee would technically have been eligible this week! Plus, in content I didn't even get round to seeing (can you blame me with all of this other stuff?), Dragon Gate's King of Gate has been rolling on all week. WWE even put on a nice little Mysterio/Cesaro match on Raw! I say it every week but, a fantastic week of wrestling yet again.

That said, here's my top 5!

5. Jordan Devlin vs Kyle Fletcher (Progress Super Strong Style 16, Night 2)
This was the first quarter final of Super Strong Style 16 this year, and another big part of Kyle Fletcher's breakout year as a singles star after his widely praised match with Will Ospreay in Fight Club Pro a few months back. Devlin is a bonafide star at this point and he was able to give all of that rub to Fletcher here. This match was set the crowd on fire and had a tremendous finish

4. Will Ospreay vs. Rocky Romero (16/5, NJPW)
Look at these names. How on earth did I ever buy a Rocky pin attempt in this match? Because these two guys are absolute pros. Ospreay is top 5 in the world week in and week out, and Rocky has been this good for 15 years. This had some of the best hope spots for an underdog in recent memory and matches like this that wouldn't matter in any other circumstance are why tournaments like Best of the Super Juniors are awesome

3. Minoru Suzuki and Zack Sabre Jr. (c) vs. Aussie Open (Revolution Pro Wrestling: Epic Encounter)
Nobody has been pushed harder in Rev Pro in recent years than Suzuki Gun, with Zack and Suzuki holding the titles for nearly 18 months after winning them from none other than Moustache Mountain, and Zack is also the current British Heavyweight Champion (as seen in NJPW). On the other hand, Aussie Open have come so close so many times. This match was that story in a microcosm. Aussie Open were just full of heart and fire and Suzuki Gun would not let them take the titles without a hell of a fight.

2. SHO vs. Shingo Takagi (13/5, NJPW)
I can't believe this match didn't end up my number 1. This was the talk of the internet the day after it happened and is definitely a MOTYC - but I just slightly preferred number 1 here. But god, for all the fire and heart I talked about in the tag match, this was all of that to an even greater degree. The story here is Shingo is undefeated since coming to New Japan, and SHO has become his heated rival in all the Roppongi 3K vs. Shingo/BUSHI junior tag title matches, so SHO is more eager than anyone to hand Shingo his first loss. Shingo is a favourite to win the whole BoSJ but if anybody was to stop him going undefeated, his rival SHO seemed as good a candidate as any, and boy did he have me believing in this match. They're going to have many more matches, and SHO is probably going to lose many more times before he finally gets that win, but even in a loss here SHO's star was made.

1. David Starr vs. Jordan Devlin (Progress Super Strong Style 16, Night 3)
I went full 5 bananas on this. These are two of the very best on the planet today in a high stakes, high drama match in the Finals of Super Strong Style 16, delivering everything you would want in the action, setting the crowd alight for 20 minutes straight and giving a finish that called back to the excellent Devlin/Fletcher finish I talked about earlier, this was just everything you want in wrestling and if I hadn't gone 5 stars on it, I would have added a quarter star for the post match promo anyway. This deserves your attention and I might be willing to say Progress deserves your attention again after this.
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ninkendo
05/19/19 4:50:06 PM
#212:


Dream booking for tonight

Sami zayn wins mitb

Helps KO beat Kofi

Immediately cashes in on KO revealing he's been acting like this since his return just to get on KOs good side

Initiate infinite skanking
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Strife2
05/19/19 5:30:09 PM
#213:


Old school mentality: Who is face/heel in that scenario?

If WWE went that route, they could hand wave it, saying Sami Orton'd his way heel all this time, even the crap about the audience recently, to teach Owens a lesson.

WWE mentality: Owens turns face after a 2-3 week heel turn because DERP!
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/19/19 8:07:35 PM
#214:


Lol Hold on, they have the Women's MITB on pre-show and gave it to Bayley? And Mick Foley is announcing a NEW title on Raw? And the Cruiserweight title match made it to the main show?

What in the world happened?
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ShatteredElysium
05/19/19 8:14:22 PM
#215:


I don't think it was on the pre-show. I think the women's MitB opened the show
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/19/19 8:18:46 PM
#216:


Oh, I was reading the results. Did it begin at like 7 or something?
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RaidenGarai
05/19/19 8:28:52 PM
#217:


I wonder how pissed Sasha is that Bayley won MitB while she's off pouting.

Sasha's attitude might be the best thing to happen to Bayley.
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StealThisSheen
05/19/19 8:30:18 PM
#218:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Oh, I was reading the results. Did it begin at like 7 or something?


Every PPV begins at 7 now.
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 8:40:35 PM
#219:


Man, Joe should just stop wrestling and just get pinned in roll-ups and just annihilate his opponents afterwards.
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StealThisSheen
05/19/19 8:52:50 PM
#220:


RaidenGarai posted...
Sasha's attitude might be the best thing to happen to Bayley.

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TheRock1525
05/19/19 9:33:39 PM
#221:


I am completely shocked two of the best workers in the world put together a great match.
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RaidenGarai
05/19/19 10:27:49 PM
#222:


That was one of the hardest bumps I've ever seen. Holy fuck
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 10:36:40 PM
#223:


RaidenGarai posted...
That was one of the hardest bumps I've ever seen. Holy fuck


The network has been fucking up for me, what did I miss?
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RaidenGarai
05/19/19 10:39:26 PM
#224:


Andrade did a powerbomb on Finn through a ladder, and Finn bounced like a foot in the air.

Also, that ending was fucking stupid.

Edit: https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1130299021984014336
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scarletspeed7
05/19/19 10:40:44 PM
#225:


Okay that ending had me laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes.

Brock's face, people. Oh my lord.
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StealThisSheen
05/19/19 10:40:47 PM
#226:


Well that was enough to make me cancel the network
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 10:44:00 PM
#227:


I think I would have been okay with Brock being announced at the beginning of the match as the 8th man.

Or even Vince coming out while everyone is lying on the ground to introduce him.

Just running out and winning it? Nope.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/19/19 10:53:36 PM
#228:


I wonder if Brock will job for months on end like all MITB winners.
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Strife2
05/19/19 10:56:01 PM
#229:


Again...fuck this company. Can AEW just start already?
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 10:57:22 PM
#230:


Although this is one time where being a part-timer helps because MitB is usually an albatross for storytelling for the champion on the winner but now Brock can disappear and show up when he's ready to cash-in.
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scarletspeed7
05/19/19 10:59:22 PM
#231:


TheRock1525 posted...
Although this is one time where being a part-timer helps because MitB is usually an albatross for storytelling for the champion on the winner but now Brock can disappear and show up when he's ready to cash-in.

Yeah, this is actually a great part of Brock as the winner. You can be lulled into forgetting about him and that shock surprise that MITB is FOR will actually be in a premium here.
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 11:01:33 PM
#232:


Like honestly if he could just disappear until at least Summerslam, it's not a bad move.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/19/19 11:02:23 PM
#233:


Yeah, but the end result is Brock as champion again.
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 11:03:49 PM
#234:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Yeah, but the end result is Brock as champion again.


I'm less bothered by "Brock is champion" and the more likely scenario which is "and the only man that can top him cleanly is Roman Reigns!"

That being said, I'm pretty sure I was gonna cancel WWE Network if DREW MAC didn't win so I feel like I have to out of principle.
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TheRock1525
05/19/19 11:08:35 PM
#235:


Oh shit.

I keep thinking about how it's supposed to be used on Seth and the Universal title.

It's gonna be used on Kofi on the first Smackdown on Fox.
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ninkendo
05/19/19 11:13:47 PM
#236:


At least no money in the bank winner constantly losing matches every week

Well I guess there's still Bayley
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TheRock1525
05/20/19 12:18:39 AM
#237:


https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1130310678697435136

How well will this tweet age if he's the first AEW Champion?
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ScareChan
05/20/19 12:20:56 AM
#238:


fucking wwe everytime I dont watch anything live its spoiled before I watch it

even if I go off social media, as soon as I log in to watch it its front page news of the winners

give me a break
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scarletspeed7
05/20/19 12:25:59 AM
#239:


TheRock1525 posted...
That being said, I'm pretty sure I was gonna cancel WWE Network if DREW MAC didn't win so I feel like I have to out of principle.

I thought Drew was winning, and I was kind of worried because he went from fun in NXT again to just painfully boring as a heel for the last few months.
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ScareChan
05/20/19 12:45:13 AM
#240:


man I wish I didnt know the winner of the womens going in

great finish imo, and a very good mitb! I would give it 4.5

everyone looked pretty good I would say
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ZeroSignal620
05/20/19 2:20:15 AM
#241:


I think Brock's using it at Super Show Down on Rollins. Like announcing earlier like RVD or Braun
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Steiner
05/20/19 3:38:37 AM
#242:


StealThisSheen posted...
Well that was enough to make me cancel the network


ahahahaha
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XIII_rocks
05/20/19 4:02:07 AM
#244:


TheRock1525 posted...
https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1130310678697435136

How well will this tweet age if he's the first AEW Champion?


That is probably the point?
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ZeroSignal620
05/20/19 7:43:52 AM
#245:


Modern Era Grand Slam Champs as of last night
Angle
Edge
Eddie
Big Show
Miz
Bryan
Jericho
Ambrose
Reigns
Rollins
Orton
Jeff Hardy
Kofi
Rey Mysterio

Needs one more title (active/full-time roster only)
Sheamus (IC)
Owens (Tag)
Ryder (WWE/Universal)
Shelton (WWE/Universal)
Ziggler (WWE/Universal)
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/19 8:22:40 AM
#246:


I can't believe they already took one of the titles off Becky. What was even the point of all of this and putting her over as an impressive fighting champion who would fight two times in one night to defend her titles and have her lose the very first time she tries it, especially to pad out Charlotte's title record. My god.
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Eddv
05/20/19 8:31:26 AM
#247:


To get a nice one night pop for Bayley.

That's it.

Becky can be a transcendent star but they don't want that so we got this.

Why they even bothered having Asuka drop the belt is an excellent question
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HashtagSEP
05/20/19 8:55:14 AM
#248:


Steiner posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Well that was enough to make me cancel the network


ahahahaha


I mean I was over Brock like 3 years ago
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/19 8:55:50 AM
#249:


It's just that Becky is just an idiot loser now after the other girls called her an idiot loser in the build up and apparently on commentary Corey Graves couldn't stop talking about how stupid Becky was for this.

Why not just let her win just win twice on one night once?

And yeah, it makes it silly that Asuka lost the belt too against Charlotte also. Or why both titles were put on the line. Or why we even got Becky Two Belts or Champ Champ over when they're just going to abandon it in a month?

They are just so insistent on cutting the legs out from under their popular stars without even noticing it.
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HashtagSEP
05/20/19 8:58:24 AM
#250:


I mean people are already starting to sour on Becky so putting an end to her being in every title match and often twice in one night early was a good idea
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/19 9:00:00 AM
#251:


Have they really soured on her already? How did they screw that up?
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HashtagSEP
05/20/19 9:09:52 AM
#252:


Same way they screw most up

Overexposure
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