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Mr Lasastryke
05/15/19 10:38:34 AM
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haven't seen 40 year old virgin but the only time i laughed during superbad was after the "this guy is either gonna think 'here's another kid with a fake ID' or 'here's mclovin, a 25 year-old hawaiian organ donor'" line.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 10:50:01 AM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
haven't seen 40 year old virgin but the only time i laughed during superbad was after the "this guy is either gonna think 'here's another kid with a fake ID' or 'here's mclovin, a 25 year-old hawaiian organ donor'" line.

Do you like Fast Times at Ridgemont High? I feel like movies such as that and Superbad are just so full of Americana that it might be hard to relate to them if you didn't have the same experiences.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 12:18:58 PM
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#239. O.J.: Made in America
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/OJ_Made_in_America.png
Dir: Ezra Edelman
Genre: Documentary, Crime
Year: 2016

Not many documentaries can hold one's interest for 467 minutes. O.J.: Made in America is one of those films.

There are several reasons why this is the most enthralling documentary in a decade where documentaries have really reached a golden age. The subject matter happens to be one of, if not the biggest, pop culture news stories of the past 50 years. I was just a kid when the OJ trial was going on, but even I had flashbacks to where I was when certain parts of the film unfolded. But it's more than just the subject matter--O.J.: Made in America is a microcosm for race relations, fame, and the criminal justice system in the U.S. The way it weaves contemporary events like the L.A. riots helps it become more than just a singular topic. It's a documentary that encapsulates this country for the past 30 years.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 12:34:31 PM
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#238. Total Recall
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Total_recall.jpg
Dir: Paul Verhoeven
Genre: Science Fiction
Year: 1990

Like virtually all of Paul Verhoeven's films, Total Recall treats its hyper-masculinity tongue-in-cheek. Which makes casting peak Arnold as the lead an absolutely brilliant decision and what makes the recent remake one of the most vapid projects in recent memory.

I'm just a sucker for visually inventive sci-fi movies. Like The Fifth Element, there's nothing that looks quite like Total Recall. It's something that's really just lacking in modern blockbusters and something that I am skeptical we'll be seeing again any time soon.
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CasanovaZelos
05/15/19 12:35:53 PM
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Always good to see Verhoeven love. Total Recall isn't one of my favorites of his, but he's one of the more interesting directors around and I hate to see his works tossed aside as easily as they are.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 12:45:13 PM
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#237. Clerks
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Clerks_movie_poster%3B_Just_because_they_serve_you_---_.jpg
Dir: Kevin Smith
Genre: Comedy
Year: 1994

Clerks is underrated. No, I don't mean that it's an underrated comedy or that people forget how funny it is. I mean it is underrated in its importance in film history! In 1994, Kevin Smith proved that it was possible to make a great picture with nothing more than a camera and some well-written dialogue of friends talking about every day subjects. It wasn't the first movie to do this, but it certainly opened the floodgates to so much of the Gen X proto-mumblecore comedies of the mid to late 90s. And even viewed in a vacuum, it's still very clever, funny, and crisply edited. A timeless and timely piece.

Mild list spoilers: This is the first of eight movies from 1994 (most of them appearing in the top 50). It is far and away the greatest year in film history and it blows my mind how many classics were released then.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/15/19 1:11:49 PM
#58:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Do you like Fast Times at Ridgemont High? I feel like movies such as that and Superbad are just so full of Americana that it might be hard to relate to them if you didn't have the same experiences.


haven't seen it! there's still a lot of classics i need to watch.

i feel like superbad is more about coming-of-age than americana but yeah, there definitely could be a cultural discrepancy going on.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 4:20:16 PM
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#236. Logan
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Logan_2017_poster.jpg
Dir: James Mangold
Genre: Superhero
Year: 2017

It takes a lot for me to rave about a comic book/superhero movie. Between the MCU, DCU, and Sony franchises, I am completely drained of all desire and emotion when it comes to them. The formula is tired, the action is boring, and even the ones that are "clever" can be grating to me. Maybe I am just a crotchety old man, but that's truly how I feel.

But the four superhero movies on this list (and a few others that barely missed the cut) transcend the genre. Take Logan, for example. The cinematography is gorgeous (I almost wish the black-and-white version they made was the real theatrical version!). The action is muted and effective. It plays more like a road movie than a superhero film. Most importantly, it seems to go beyond the regular formula to tell us something deeper about the filmmakers' intentions. This was the last in a long line of X-Men movies, the franchise that started the comic book movie boom of the 2000s/2010s, and the pervasive theme is that of exhaustion. Logan is tired of all the fighting. He just wants to help the next generation find their calling. It's an appropriate, toned back send-off in an era of exhausting excess.

Feel free to guess what the other 3 are!
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 4:27:15 PM
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#235. Sling Blade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Slingbladeposter.jpg
Dir: Billy Bob Thornton
Genre: Drama
Year: 1996

Billy Bob Thornton basically did everything on this movie and then was set for life. And you can't really hate him for it. He gives us one of the most iconic performances of the decade--maybe even beyond that--as a character that I still can't believe is him. I mean, look at this:

https://imgur.com/YhbhVB7

It blows my mind that this was the same dude:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fargo/images/3/3a/Billy_bob_thornton.jpg

The story is fairly cliched (up until the bloody climax, at least), but that doesn't matter. It's a perfectly executed boy-befriends-monster-who-really-isn't-one tale that is wholly satisfying to watch. Also it's probably my favorite movie to quote IRL in The Voice.
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MetalmindStats
05/15/19 4:31:31 PM
#61:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Feel free to guess what the other 3 are!

The Dark Knight seems obvious. I really hope Spider-Verse is on here, and I seem to recall you raving about it before. I'm not sure about the last one offhand.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/15/19 4:35:56 PM
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gonna randomly guess days of future past for the fourth one.
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HotDogButts
05/15/19 4:39:13 PM
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Snake5555555555
05/15/19 4:44:11 PM
#64:


I think it might Dark Knight, Watchmen, and depending on your definition of "superhero", V for Vendetta.
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05/15/19 4:48:26 PM
#65:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Feel free to guess what the other 3 are!

My first thoughts were Dark Knight and The Incredibles, but I can't really think of an obvious third choice to go with.

Edit: Wait, I forgot films were only being counted as one genre, so Incredibles wouldn't count. (Same for Spider-Verse, probably.)
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Suprak the Stud
05/15/19 4:59:10 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
I think it might Dark Knight, Watchmen, and depending on your definition of "superhero", V for Vendetta.


I thought the movie itself was slightly disappointing (still good imo but I know that is divisive) but the intro to Watchman still sticks out to me as one of the more visually remarkable and clever things I've seen in a film.
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KingButz
05/15/19 5:00:16 PM
#67:


Ugh I really hope not V for Vendetta
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Mr Lasastryke
05/15/19 5:05:24 PM
#68:


batman begins also seems like an option.
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HeroicSpiderPig
05/15/19 5:13:36 PM
#69:


Trying to figure out what the two Canadian movies are. "The Sweet Hereafter" and...?

"Exotica" is a deep cut, and the other high profile Canadian films do not seem like favorites of the topic creator. "Stories We Tell"?
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Nelson_Mandela
05/15/19 8:47:16 PM
#70:


You're missing some big ones!
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MetalmindStats
05/15/19 9:00:48 PM
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I suspect at least one of them is a Cronenberg movie. Xavier Dolan is a lot more divisive, but I could maybe see something like Mommy taking up the other spot, if you particularly like his style.
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HeroicSpiderPig
05/15/19 9:18:42 PM
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Oh Cronenberg, duh. Wasn't thinking of his earlier movies.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 12:17:03 PM
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#234. 28 Days Later...
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Dir: Danny Boyle
Genre: Horror
Year: 2002

I have a soft spot for post-apocalyptic movies. Zombies themselves don't do much for me, but if they can set the foundation for good world-building for life after a cataclysm, then I am all in. And, for me, 28 Days Later does this the best of all the zombie films*.

28 Days Later basically restarted the genre that exploded into what it is today. The game-changer, of course, is that the zombies are no longer the slow, lumbering corpses of the Romero films. They are now fast and aggressive, which--done properly--makes for a much more tense and satisfying film experience. This is just such a great movie for anyone without genre fatigue.

*I have never seen the original Dawn of the Dead or Night of the Living Dead!
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CasanovaZelos
05/16/19 12:36:33 PM
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Night and Dawn are both phenomenal to this day. I'm almost surprised how well Night holds up, it's a really bleak atmospheric experience.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 12:41:45 PM
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#233. Team America: World Police
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Team_america_poster_300px.jpg
Dir: Trey Parker
Genre: Comedy
Year: 2004

Matt Stone and Trey Parker are comedic geniuses. In 2004, the true extent of their satirical prowess was still largely underappreciated. But Team America began to change it all.

Released just after the Iraq War, Team America served as a timely satire of the post-9/11 jingoism that was sweeping the nation. But it went beyond that--it also lampooned the righteousness and self-importance of celebrities/actors in the geopolitical realm perfectly. In fact, that's exactly why Matt & Trey opted to use puppets instead of actors--they wanted to show exactly how replaceable these people were, even in their own craft. The humor is layered surprisingly deep, but you can also always count on the surface-level jokes (America, FUCK YEAH!) to hit the mark and stand the test of time.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 12:44:35 PM
#76:


CasanovaZelos posted...
Night and Dawn are both phenomenal to this day. I'm almost surprised how well Night holds up, it's a really bleak atmospheric experience.

Yeah I really need to get around to seeing these
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 12:50:17 PM
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#232. 25th Hour
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/25th_Hour_Poster.jpg
Dir: Spike Lee
Genre: Drama
Year 2002

Speaking of post-9/11 films, I struggle to think of another movie that captures New York City better after the World Trade Center attacks than 25th Hour. It also happens to be Spike Lee's best and most underrated "joint."

25th Hour is peak Ed Norton doing peak Ed Norton things. Set in a single day before he is set to go to prison, it is a wonderful reflection on friendship and loyalty. Almost like a grimmer and grimier Stand by Me. It also has one of the more heartbreaking conclusions in recent memory. I don't recommend watching this unless you're in a certain kind of mood.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 1:09:18 PM
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#231. Let the Right One In
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Let_the_Right_One_In_%28Swedish%29.jpg
Dir: Tomas Alfredson
Genre: Horror
Year: 2008

Let the Right One In is the best vampire movie, full stop. Not because it necessarily introduces anything new or has a unique take on established tropes, but because it's simply shot so damn well. Maybe Nordic peoples just take to the camera naturally, but everything from the lighting to the makeup to the effects is just perfect. It genuinely feels like magic.

I have never seen the remake, but if I were to guess, I bet:
-they use way too much CGI
-they fuck up the pacing entirely
-they lose the androgyny subtext altogether
-it sucks
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 1:15:54 PM
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#230. Her
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Her2013Poster.jpg
Dir: Spike Jonze
Genre: Science Fiction, Romance
Year: 2013

It's a shame that Spike Jonze isn't more prolific. He's made four movies in the past 20 years, all of which are quite good, and hasn't done anything since Her.

Her feels like his magnum opus. It takes all of the quirkiness/weirdness from Being John Malkovich and Adaptation and weaves it into an intelligent and timely story. Joaquin Phoenix proves once again that he's the best actor currently working and delivers a very understated performance--mostly just by talking to himself while the camera lingers on a still shot of his face. The sci-fi elements are also understated, and for good reason: you actually feel like this could be a glimpse into a real future, based on the directions we're headed.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/16/19 8:34:37 PM
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That's it for today!
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 10:11:47 AM
#81:


bumpo
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ExThaNemesis
05/17/19 10:29:28 AM
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Her looked absolutely atrocious to me when it first came out. Surprised to see you liked it to much. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 10:38:17 AM
#83:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Her looked absolutely atrocious to me when it first came out. Surprised to see you liked it to much. Maybe I'll give it a shot.

I know what you mean. I think on the surface it might appear to be a feminist think piece, but really the subtext is more about loneliness and the role of technology displacing social interaction.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 12:54:41 PM
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#229. Beetlejuice
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Dir: Tim Burton
Genre: Fantasy, Comedy
Year: 1988

Ah, Tim Burton. He truly flourished in the pre-CGI days. That's not to say that he still doesn't make bank now, but I think it's pretty much consensus that his early films were far superior to the new ones.

Beetlejuice to me represents everything that there was to love about 80s/90s Tim Burton. After some deliberation, I can now say that it's his best movie because it's also his most creative one. The fact that this was made and he was free to be as weird as he could be is amazing. And there's also Michael Keaton in his best performance ever (but not his best movie per se). Rewatchable till the end of time.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 1:00:48 PM
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#228. Inglorious Basterds
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Dir: Quentin Tarantino
Genre: War
Year: 2008

Quentin Tarantino has written and directed eight feature films (not counting Death Proof) as I write this. Seven of the eight made it into my Top 250. That is a simply stunning oeuvre and Tarantino should rightfully be discussed in the pantheon of G.O.A.T.s. I wouldn't necessarily make the argument, but my listing system is telling me otherwise.

My second-least favorite of his films happens to still be an excellent movie. Inglorious Basterds can drag a bit, but it's filmed and acted so well that you find yourself not caring. I remember having no idea where he was taking this the first time I watched it (at a drive-in, no less) and I was pleasantly surprised with the fuck-it-all carnage at the end. It's something only Tarantino could pull off.
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Jakyl25
05/17/19 1:57:28 PM
#86:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
#237. Clerks
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Clerks_movie_poster%3B_Just_because_they_serve_you_---_.jpg
Dir: Kevin Smith
Genre: Comedy
Year: 1994

Clerks is underrated. No, I don't mean that it's an underrated comedy or that people forget how funny it is. I mean it is underrated in its importance in film history! In 1994, Kevin Smith proved that it was possible to make a great picture with nothing more than a camera and some well-written dialogue of friends talking about every day subjects. It wasn't the first movie to do this, but it certainly opened the floodgates to so much of the Gen X proto-mumblecore comedies of the mid to late 90s. And even viewed in a vacuum, it's still very clever, funny, and crisply edited. A timeless and timely piece.

Mild list spoilers: This is the first of eight movies from 1994 (most of them appearing in the top 50). It is far and away the greatest year in film history and it blows my mind how many classics were released then.


Clerks is probably the movie that affected me personally more than any other. When I was younger I identified with Dante, then as I grew older I realized why identifying with Dante is bad
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 3:04:14 PM
#87:


I can completely see this^
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LordoftheMorons
05/17/19 3:06:45 PM
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05/17/19 3:15:51 PM
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#227. Requiem for a Dream
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Requiem_for_a_dream.jpg
Dir: Darren Aronofsky
Genre: Drama
Year: 2000

In the official IMDB lists, you will often see a negative red number next to certain titles to indicate how far they have dropped since the last update. If I were to have made a Top 250 list when I was 16-17 and this topic was its update, Requiem for a Dream would have approximately a minus 210 next to its name.

I think this is how a lot of people my age feel about Aronofsky films. The uber-visceral cinematography, the melodrama, and the edgy imagery really resonate with younger people who are trying to seem smart and different. But as you get older, you start to realize a few things. Sometimes, subtlety can be more powerful than graphic LETS SHOW THE DOCTORS SAWING OFF HIS INFECTED ARM!!!! scenes. You realize that frenetic editing doesn't necessarily mean that it's intelligently shot. And you see more films and begin to discover that Aronofsky takes a lot of artistic liberties with his filmic "inspirations" that toe the line of plagiarism.

This is not to shit on Requiem for a Dream. It's in my Top 250 so obviously I still like it a lot. The score is gorgeous, the scenes are memorable, and it really is a great gateway into more serious subject matter. But it's fallen significantly for me, largely because I have matured as a filmgoer. And that's okay! It is still responsible for making me seek out other intense movies like it, and it will therefore always have a special place in my heart.
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05/17/19 3:22:12 PM
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Most influential theme song of the century
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 3:25:42 PM
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#226. Blue Velvet
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Dir: David Lynch
Genre: Thriller/Suspense, Mystery
Year: 1986

When Blue Velvet was released in 1986, most people knew David Lynch as the guy who made Elephant Man (a relatively straightforward mainstream hit [we might even incorrectly call it "Oscar bait" if it were released now]) and Dune (a big budget flop that people incorrectly thought was trying to be the next Star Wars). Only a few understood that this is the dude who made a movie that featured this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24rFLOhQq_4" data-time="


So needless to say, Blue Velvet shocked just about everyone. It's a weird, abstract, disturbing mystery that challenges conventional filmmaking from the very opening scene. As is Lynch's signature characteristic, it's also absolutely beautiful looking and sounding, which only adds to its uncanniness.

There's not a whole lot more I can say about it without giving it away, but if you have any interest in David Lynch or real arthouse cinema, this is required viewing.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 3:30:51 PM
#92:


all for 2day
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 3:40:14 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Most influential theme song of the century

Agreed. What would the NFL do without it??
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05/17/19 3:41:33 PM
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Or movie trailers in general while it was the trendy thing

Before it got replaced by Inception BWAUMMM
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Nelson_Mandela
05/17/19 3:54:06 PM
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Man I don't even know what trailers look/sound like anymore since I almost never watch TV.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/17/19 6:24:41 PM
#96:


her is a total masterpiece.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/18/19 7:21:10 PM
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Will get back to this tomorrow maybe
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Nelson_Mandela
05/20/19 10:48:16 AM
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#225. Dog Day Afternoon
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Dir: Sidney Lumet
Genre: Drama, Crime
Year: 1975

The 1970s featured, in the United States at least, peak transgressive filmmaking. Of all the "mainstream" directors who carried this spirit, Sidney Lumet was probably the most emblematic.

Dog Day Afternoon is one of those really edgy, even by today's standards, anti-establishment movies. I mean, you find yourself rooting for a guy who's robbing a bank to pay for his lover's sex change operation. That's pretty heavy shit for 1975. Combine this with a wry sense of humor and one of Al Pacino's most memorable performances ever, and you have an all-time classic.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/20/19 11:00:02 AM
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#224. Zodiac
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Dir: David Fincher
Genre: Suspense/Thriller, Crime
Year: 2007

Zodiac is probably David Fincher's most underrated film. In fact (spoilers for The List), I like it better than Se7en. Fans of Se7en and Fight Club were probably disappointed that Zodiac is too slow, too long, too boring, not "thrilling" enough--but that is exactly why I love it so much.

At its core, Zodiac is a story of obsession. A long, drawn-out mystery with no resolution--but one that shows how the case can affect the person who becomes obsessed with solving it. It's basically what True Detective season 3 wanted, but failed miserably to achieve. If you have two-and-a-half hours to kill (no pun intended), this is definitely a must-watch.
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CasanovaZelos
05/20/19 11:07:26 AM
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I'm happy to see that at least some critics have really reevaluated Zodiac since its release.

Also, has Fincher really not done anything since Gone Girl? I remember being excited for him potentially doing Black Hole a long time ago, but that ended up getting dropped.
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wallmasterz
05/20/19 11:17:31 AM
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Fincher directed a bunch of episodes of Mindhunter season 1 but nope, no films. Hes attached to World War Z 2 and a remake of Strangers on a Train so I suspect one of those will be his next film. Not sure how far along in the development process either is.
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