Current Events > Gacha and Hero Collection Game General Topic 4: ''Banana's going bananas.''

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Calwings
05/15/19 10:24:49 PM
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This topic is for discussion of all the various games where you put in your time and money effort in hopes of recruiting the hero or waifu of your dreams... yes, welcome to the wonderful world of gacha games! Granblue Fantasy, Azur Lane, Epic Seven, Revue Starlight ReLIVE, Dragalia Lost, and many, many more unique games are waiting for you to happily spend your money enjoy your time playing them! Note that Girls' Frontline grew popular enough on this board to have its own separate discussion topics, so while you're free to talk about GFL here as well, you'll likely get more and quicker responses in its dedicated general topic.

So let's continue our discussion: what gacha games are you playing these days? Which do you spend the most time on, and which are you just collecting login bonuses in until you feel like actually playing them again? Feel free to name your favorite games, show off your heroes and teams, and just have fun... but remember: play responsibly!
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Tyranthraxus
05/15/19 11:04:41 PM
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Sad_Face
05/16/19 3:46:56 PM
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Other topic is finally locked. So I can post now. How many of you guys are playing Fire Emblem Heroes here? I've been playing since launch.
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Tyranthraxus
05/16/19 4:04:06 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Other topic is finally locked. So I can post now. How many of you guys are playing Fire Emblem Heroes here? I've been playing since launch.


I bailed on that ship sometime after regular Xander was added. It was terrible through and through. Rates were terrible. Getting units fully maxed out with optimal inheritance skills and such was the worst fucking shit I've ever put myself through.

Not looking to get into a huge argument about people who like to play it but it's just not for me. There's others out there that are far better, even for the PVP aspect.
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Calwings
05/16/19 4:57:17 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
How many of you guys are playing Fire Emblem Heroes here? I've been playing since launch.

I played it from launch up until last December. I enjoyed the game for what it was, and besides whaling for one single character I loved (I dropped $30 to get Myrrh) I was pretty much purely F2P. The dupes needed to max characters out and the pulls needed for optimal skill inheritance were annoying, but they didn't bother me too much because I never got too deep into the high-ranking Arena and Aether Raids. I'd likely still be playing today if it wasn't for one single problem: way, way, way, WAY too much favoritism towards Awakening and Fates characters.

It was around the time that they added a fifth fucking Azura to the game that I finally gave up all hope that the Awakening/Fates favoritism would ever stop. I simply accepted the fact that many of my favorite characters from the older FE games would never see the light of day and that IS would just keep giving alternate versions to the popular characters from those two games. I uninstalled the game and haven't looked back since.
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Sad_Face
05/16/19 6:02:12 PM
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aw

I haven't played any other gacha games so I can't compare rates, but I'm a F2Player, to the point of avoiding the BK meal, and have been able to fully merge 3 5* exclusive units. It does take planning and dedication to saving, at least 6 months which means you'll fall behind in resources compared to your other player brethren. But when your time comes, you can leap frog infront of them depending on who you roll for. I aimed for a fully merged alt of F!Corrin from a single banner and ended up picking up Surtr, probably one of the most broken units in the game, as a bonus.

And speaking of which, the Fates/Awakening favoritism is never gonna end. We're going to be getting our 7th Camilla around August (she won CYL3) and we just got yet another alt of F!Corrin, a Fallen evil version making up a total of 4 F!Corrins in the game, though she's implemented in such a way that it appears they wanted any excuse to replace the original launch version as she felt a bit out of place from the other units (Mareeta, Tiki, Berkut) on the banner. I will say they've been especially good to Tellius fans recently with the addition of Laguz (with beast units from Fates/Awakening following them) and the Laguz units are REALLY FUGGIN STRONG. They did them justice.

So I'd throw it out there that you can compete with whales without spending a dime. But you gotta know how to really play the game, like live and breathe the game. I'm on the Android board basically 25/8 and am always checking out people's strategies in Aether Raids. I suppose it's good to see others' perspective since I'm a total gung-ho for the game and again, I have no clue what other gacha games do.
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Touch
05/16/19 6:27:26 PM
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I was gonna retry Epic 7 cuz someone on gacha gaming said they were giving out 30 bookmarks to everyone, even new players, because of a FB event or something

And then it turned out to only be a 3 hour event. What the fuck hahahaha
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legendarylemur
05/16/19 7:30:44 PM
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Lol you either play it or you don't. You missed out on some pretty quality stuff cuz the Guilty Gear collab is ending soon
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Nightmare_Luna
05/16/19 9:44:48 PM
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stuck waiting for KMR to fix the curve toward endgame, lucilius HL is currently gacha-gated in some elements and that needs to not be a thing, i have some of the units that the elitist jpscum require core to even let you in, but i'm also not rank *230*
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Tyranthraxus
05/16/19 9:49:14 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Lol you either play it or you don't. You missed out on some pretty quality stuff cuz the Guilty Gear collab is ending soon

I really hate limited shit. Knowing that I missed out on Neptune collab makes me never want to play Azur Lane
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Touch
05/16/19 10:57:20 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Lol you either play it or you don't. You missed out on some pretty quality stuff cuz the Guilty Gear collab is ending soon

It's still kinda shitty to have an event run for literally 3 hours tho
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legendarylemur
05/17/19 1:52:43 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Lol you either play it or you don't. You missed out on some pretty quality stuff cuz the Guilty Gear collab is ending soon

I really hate limited shit. Knowing that I missed out on Neptune collab makes me never want to play Azur Lane

Yeah the event has been running for an entire month at this point though. A lot of people started around the first week of collab and seemingly has at least 3 copies of Sol, who's given away for free and is an insanely great unit despite being free.

Considering the game isn't even a year old yet, an entire month is pretty hard to miss.

As for the fb event, I had no clue it was even going on. Just logged in one day and got it >.>
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Leanaunfurled
05/17/19 9:05:07 AM
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Touch posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Lol you either play it or you don't. You missed out on some pretty quality stuff cuz the Guilty Gear collab is ending soon

It's still kinda shitty to have an event run for literally 3 hours tho

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Calwings
05/17/19 4:31:47 PM
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Just a heads up (or reminder for those who I may have already mentioned this to before) for Revue Starlight ReLIVE players: unless you really want a specific stage girl, generally you want to save your star gems for limited units and Kirameki Fes events. That Winged Tengu Ichie that was just added is pretty good, but she's permanently in the gacha pool going forward. If you really want her specifically, then you'd pull for her now because the banner has a rate-up specifically for her. But if you just want good 4* stage girls in general, wait until the first KiraFes.

Limited stage girls that don't go into the permanent gacha pool mostly come from seasonal events (Halloween, Christmas, New Years, etc.) and KiraFes events. KiraFes events are where the gacha rates for 4* stage girls are doubled if you pull from the KiraFes banner, so they're the best time to pull if you just want 4* stage girls in general, and each one also has a limited unit that is not in the permanent pool.

Here's a spreadsheet that lists all of the events that the JP version has had so far and details which stage girls added are limited or permanently added to the pool. Generally, it looks like EN will follow the same order when it comes to events, but some of the non-event gacha additions (like Heracles Michiru, who was added to EN quite a bit sooner than she was in JP) may come at different times. Use this to determine what you want to save your star gems for in the future, whether it's a KiraFes event or a new version of your favorite stage girl.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1igBpvlJsTjj_1xTZsjm-AVGG8WHM65GMvqjLT4qAeoU/htmlview#gid=0
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Calwings
05/18/19 8:46:41 PM
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Spidey5
05/18/19 8:52:30 PM
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Did a Yolo pull for Ichie cause she's adorable, and got nothing but Memoirs. I regret everything. Gacha was a mistake.

Right then, saving for Hikari.
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Tyranthraxus
05/18/19 9:32:35 PM
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got beauty Zardin on a daily. Wasn't even any rainbows so I was super surprised when he popped out.
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Leanaunfurled
05/18/19 11:25:30 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
got beauty Zardin on a daily. Wasn't even any rainbows so I was super surprised when he popped out.

Damn, grats! I don't have Zardin, but I got Yachiyo, Cupid (FINALLY <3) and Garuda. Even managed to get Takemikazuchi from a single, which surprised me.
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Nightmare_Luna
05/19/19 12:03:13 AM
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cupid is a cutie
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Tyranthraxus
05/19/19 9:06:43 AM
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@Leanaunfurled

IEYASU/MARISHITEN RERUN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://dragalialost.com/en/news/detail/472
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Leanaunfurled
05/19/19 10:46:36 AM
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omg. omg omg!!! I'm sorry Gala banner but Marishiten calls to me!
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Cookie Bag
05/19/19 3:05:56 PM
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So been trying out stuff, since it works now for some reason, i could play fire emblem heroes on Nox, game seems pretty simple compared to an actual FE game, also rerolled a bit and settled with Loki and Nailah.

Also trying out Epic 7, so far I've learned one thing and its how badly this game relays information about the features it has... i rerolled for quite some time, meaning i did the tutorial a lot, and not a single time it mentions you can add more units to your team, i was wondering why a tutorial was so hard to clear when you just have your shitty base unit and an NPC...
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Razuberii
05/19/19 3:12:59 PM
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play azur lane.
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Calwings
05/19/19 10:00:21 PM
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Maintenance is happening in Revue Starlight ReLIVE tonight, starting at 1am EST. Once the game comes back online, I'd guess that the next event (which would most likely the Maya/Claudine Aladdin event, based on JP's release schedule) will start immediately after. I'll give a detailed breakdown of the event and the two brand new stage girls once it goes live, just as I did for the past couple of events.
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05/19/19 11:54:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus
05/20/19 12:06:16 AM
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RIP Dragalia. Maintenance started.
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Leanaunfurled
05/20/19 10:11:11 AM
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10k wyrmite, pulled Albert, Lily, Simurgh, Nyarlathotep, Hildegarde, Prometheus (only new one being Simurgh).

No Marishiten. Fuck this bs so much tbh
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Leanaunfurled
05/20/19 12:41:20 PM
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Got a surprise rainbow at the end of this new pull.

Nefaria.

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Sad_Face
05/20/19 2:40:01 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA6GfeAGGuk&feature=youtu.be

Bridal Banner coming up for FEHeroes tomorrow. They're introducing a few new skills that will be insanely powerful in Aether Raids. One of them is Ground Orders. A big dominant defense archetype is a flier ball, where there are a bunch of fliers all using Flier Formation, this makes their AI more tricky to predict and ends up destroying players who haven't done their research on AI manipulation. Ground Orders gives every other archetype the same ability to move to an adjacent spot to any ally within 2 spaces.

Then there's Pulse Smoke, which tacks on an extra charge to an enemy and its allies within 2 spaces. Another big meta archetype is Infantry Pulse, where infantry units get a -1 to their special cooldown on their first turn. People use this (me included) to give several units a full charge to their specials to go obliterate their enemy on the first turn using AI manipulation for Rally Guidance traps.

There's a lot of interesting strategies going on, but you have to be really into FEH to reach where their dominate. Just felt like throwing this out there.
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thisisboris2
05/20/19 2:42:44 PM
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my jalter is ready to put an end to banana on rash rerun

god bless merlin supports
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Tyranthraxus
05/20/19 2:48:14 PM
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I blew literally everything I had and then some.

I did finally get Ieyasu but the only other new thing I have to show for it is Prometheus.

It was not worth it.
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Spidey5
05/20/19 3:32:44 PM
#32:


thisisboris2 posted...
my jalter is ready to put an end to banana on rash rerun

god bless merlin supports

I'll probably be cheesing with double Merlin and Gil.

Damn I wish Abby was here for Rashomon. Bringing a double Merlin Foreigner to a souped up Berserker boss would just be hilarious.
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Leanaunfurled
05/20/19 4:55:50 PM
#33:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I blew literally everything I had and then some.

I did finally get Ieyasu but the only other new thing I have to show for it is Prometheus.

It was not worth it.

Yeah, I wish I would have just kept all of it for the Gala... Marishiten would have been worth it for me, but that never happened. The nature of gacha.
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Tyranthraxus
05/20/19 5:03:09 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I blew literally everything I had and then some.

I did finally get Ieyasu but the only other new thing I have to show for it is Prometheus.

It was not worth it.

Yeah, I wish I would have just kept all of it for the Gala... Marishiten would have been worth it for me, but that never happened. The nature of gacha.


I want the gala units so bad but I just can't justify it.

It also looks as though Gala Ranzal ended up being kind of a crappy character. He's almost never used in HMC.
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Leanaunfurled
05/20/19 5:05:23 PM
#35:


The only Gala character I'd like is Sarisse. I also just like the 5* boost, since some teams are way more lacking than others, especially in dragons.

Sometimes I question if I should just drop gacha entirely lol. It's just so addicting and Dragalia has its own charm I really like.
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Tyranthraxus
05/20/19 5:23:28 PM
#36:


Leanaunfurled posted...
The only Gala character I'd like is Sarisse. I also just like the 5* boost, since some teams are way more lacking than others, especially in dragons.

Sometimes I question if I should just drop gacha entirely lol. It's just so addicting and Dragalia has its own charm I really like.


I've taken to games that are not reliant on gacha and I'm enjoying them a lot. Gacha is fun when you're lucky and really disappointing when you're not.

El Chronicle has a silly little gacha thing for equipment but it feels really out of place considering all the high end equipment is something that you can either craft straight up or buy straight up with money.

It's like there's a gacha in addition to a cash shop that has everything the gacha has but without the randomness. As a result, I rarely ever feel the need to make random draws. I do feel the need to spend money (haven't yet, however) but the things I would spend money on are deterministic. If I buy 1800 hero pieces, I don't get random ones, I pick the hero I want. If I buy a piece of armor, I get to pick exactly what options I want on it. If I buy crafting materials, I get exactly what it says on the tin, nothing more or less.

It's pretty tempting to buy some of the packages especially considering the game is actually kind of fun but I know I'll be left with this hollow feeling when it's all used up.

Like, I've been progressing at this slow and steady rate, then to get a boost for a little bit would be this huge rush then I'm back down to snail pace that I'm at now and I'll feel bored and/or hooked on buying more packages to maintain the accellerated rate that I have.
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Leanaunfurled
05/20/19 5:36:08 PM
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I haven't spent anything on gacha, but it feels like a "yet." And then where would I be? I fear that I'd have that personality that, once I bit the bullet once, it's downhill for me. And there's so many other things I want to do in my spare time, especially read a lot more, and how much time have I spent doing gacha? Hundreds, I know, and tbh I wouldn't want to know the exact number lol.

It's like on a reasonable level I can recognize that I'm not getting all that much from the game(s) and I've grown to treat them as an obligation I enjoy sometimes more than anything else. I don't get from them what I get from my other hobbies. But then I try to explain it away anyway on why I should keep playing and it's like, this is probably addiction.
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05/20/19 6:53:25 PM
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Calwings
05/20/19 7:15:05 PM
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The Aladdin event is officially underway in Revue Starlight ReLIVE, focusing on the stage girls of Seisho Music Academy. The prize for grinding the event is the Genie of the Lamp, Maya, while the 4-star gacha pull for the event is the Aladdin of our story, Claudine.

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The boss is of the Cloud attribute, therefore it's weak to Space attribute attacks from characters such as Sun General Maya (who can tank pretty much everything the boss can throw at her), Black Knight Hikari, Ghost Patrol Rui, as well as the two event girls themselves. In addition to this, the boss resists Moon attribute attackers, so this is unfortunately one of the few events where the ultimate boss killer, Phantom Nana, will be of little use.

Here's a helpful guide with some more info, courtesy of GamePress:

https://revuestarlight.gamepress.gg/guide/starlight-dream-thousand-nights-event-guide

Remember: Aladdin Claudine will remain a permanent part of the gacha pool even beyond the event, but Genie Maya and her potential bloom crystals can only be acquired during this event! So if you plan on using her and maxing her out, get your event memoirs and get to grinding!
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Calwings
05/20/19 11:41:55 PM
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Two grand prizes in the first 10-pull of this reward set. I'll bet this used up all my luck and the last potential bloom crystals will be way at the end.
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Spidey5
05/20/19 11:49:57 PM
#41:


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YEAH YOU BETTER RUN!
Look upon those deadly cuties and tremble.

That was the third person to surrender once I ripped apart their tank...

Are either event Clau Clau or event Mayaya noteworthy in any way? Kind of want to take it easy this event cause I dont care about either of them.
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Calwings
05/21/19 12:00:54 AM
#42:


Spidey5 posted...
Are either event Clau Clau or event Mayaya noteworthy in any way? Kind of want to take it easy this event cause I dont care about either of them.

They're both in the "good but not really spectacular" category. Maya can be a useful disabler thanks to a 3AP that breaks barriers and a Climax that can stun multiple enemies, while Claudine's 3AP and Climax lower both of the defenses of the enemies she hits. Their attacking stats aren't amazing though, and neither of them hit the full enemy team with their Climax Arts.

Also, a lot of people want Maya to step on them in a lewd way. Not important, but still interesting.
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Tyranthraxus
05/22/19 4:53:32 PM
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Dissidia released Quistis today BTW (LC)
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AloofHermit
05/23/19 3:21:53 PM
#44:


What would you guys suggest are the best Gacha iPhone games with top tier waifus??
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Calwings
05/23/19 3:47:38 PM
#45:


AloofHermit posted...
What would you guys suggest are the best Gacha iPhone games with top tier waifus??

Ever since it came out, Girls' Frontline has been my most played and the one that I would most recommend. The story and character designs are great, the gameplay is unique and strategic, and the actual gacha aspect is much more forgiving than most other gacha games. It's more accessible to players who would rather not spend very much money on a game, since it's much less "pay-to-win" and more like "pay-to-get-things-done-faster-or-easier". There's no PvP (only various leaderboards, plus some events that give an extra reward for ranking high) and all but the most difficult battles in the story can be done with teams made up of your favorites rather than the best or rarest characters as long as you plan things right.

If you've seen and enjoyed the anime that it's based on, Revue Starlight ReLIVE is excellent as well. And if you haven't seen the Revue Starlight anime, go watch it because it's really good, then try out the game. The game itself has some fun battles, enjoyable characters, beautiful designs and costumes, and a unique theme built around various stage plays and stories. On top of that, the gameplay elements (besides the gacha pull rate being a bit low) are great too. Easy to raise/max characters, infinite skips of chapters you've completed with three stars for easy grinding, and events that can be completed without needing to pull the latest 4* character (though it helps a lot). Besides the optional PvP (which gets meta-heavy in higher ranks) pretty much everything in the game can be done with teams made up of your favorites rather than the best or rarest characters as long as you choose your moves well.
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AloofHermit
05/23/19 9:14:54 PM
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Spidey5
05/23/19 10:06:31 PM
#47:


Already surpassed 100 million damage points in Roshomon rerun. 100 million to go. This is so easy lol.
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Spidey5
05/24/19 7:29:39 PM
#48:


umBjBpV
I appear to have hit a very large wall at rank 7 for Hikari...
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Calwings
05/24/19 7:46:10 PM
#49:


Spidey5 posted...
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I appear to have hit a very large wall at rank 7 for Hikari...

Everyone hits a wall there. There are some of pieces that aren't farmable normally. Besides the "attribute orb" pieces being sold in the special shop in exchange for creation jewels (AKA the items you get when you get a duplicate stage girl in the gacha) these types of orbs can only be obtained in events and other various places besides normal grinding. I found this post on the subreddit that details these orbs and the various places you can find them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RevueStarlight/comments/bm13wq/event_what_did_it_take_everything/emvp58y/

In other words, no one, not even the biggest of whales, will be able to max rank more than a couple of stage girls for a while. So most players just consider getting to rank 7 at all "maxed out" for practical purposes, and only try to "fully max" their absolute favorite stage girls.
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Spidey5
05/25/19 10:33:25 AM
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Calwings posted...
Spidey5 posted...
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I appear to have hit a very large wall at rank 7 for Hikari...

Everyone hits a wall there. There are some of pieces that aren't farmable normally. Besides the "attribute orb" pieces being sold in the special shop in exchange for creation jewels (AKA the items you get when you get a duplicate stage girl in the gacha) these types of orbs can only be obtained in events and other various places besides normal grinding. I found this post on the subreddit that details these orbs and the various places you can find them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RevueStarlight/comments/bm13wq/event_what_did_it_take_everything/emvp58y/

In other words, no one, not even the biggest of whales, will be able to max rank more than a couple of stage girls for a while. So most players just consider getting to rank 7 at all "maxed out" for practical purposes, and only try to "fully max" their absolute favorite stage girls.

Having played Zelda recently, I will now refer to this as the Cloud Barrier.

Very well, I guess Hikari is all set now. Gonna work more on Tamao, Aruru, and Mahiru.
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